JOURNAL - OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

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30. Returned a call from Mark Kleiman, on
the staff of Representative Les Aspin (D., Wis.), who said the Congressman
would appreciate a briefing from Carl Duckett, DDS&T, on SALT and the
Vladivostok agreements. He said the Congressman would be in town next
week and suggested that we try to schedule a meeting during that time.
He mentioned in passing that Mr. Aspin would also be getting some briefings
next week from the National Security Council staff on this subject.
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33, I land I met with Senator
Lloyd Bentsin 73, , ex, in response to his request for a briefing on
Portugal. I confronted the Senator with his disclosure of information on
Portugal which we had given to Sally Shelton, of his staff, as press infor-
mation The Senator was obviously
;set that tnroug some mistake he had acted contrary to the Agency's
ground rules in this matter and offered to confront Miss Shelton on this
in our presence. (See Memo for the Record).
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Relations, in response to his request and he asked if we could give Senator
Stuart Symington's (D., Mo.) Subcommittee on Arms Control, International
Organizations and Security Agreements, Senate Foreign Relations Committee,
a briefing on Tuesday, the 29th of July covering nuclear weapons developments
in the 29 nations who are parties to the international agreement for cooperation.
He said that Symington has gone to the IDEA on this matter and plans to hold
hearings next Tuesday which will include in addition to the Agency witness,
Messrs. Freedman of ERDA, Kratzer of State and George Vest, Director of
Politico-Military Affairs, He said the Senator would
want our witness (presumably Carl Duckett) to discuss the steps which each
nation has taken (or has not taken) in the development of nuclear weapons.
He said he would also want us to cover those countries who we thought would
join the "nuclear club" whether or not they were parties to the international
agreement. He specifically mentioned Korea, Taiwan, Brazil, Argentina
and India. He also cautioned against our invoking the safeguard provisions
since, as he put it, Senator Symington can effectively dispel this argument.
I told him I would be back to him on this tomorrow.
35. I I Called Bob Carlstrom, OMB, to alert
him to our reports on IT. R. 61 and S. 1428 (criminal justice information)
and to ask, him to expedite their clearance. I pointed out that they were
virtually identical to the report the Agency submitted earlier on the Justice
Department draft bill on criminal justice information. He said he would do
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22` Called Robert Pratt, in the office
of Representative Robert F. Drinan (D. , Mass. ), in response to the
Representative's letter to Robert S. Young, Freedom of Information
Coordinator, on behalf of a constituent,
I I who claims
that the Agency had not yet responded to his FOI request of a mon:-Ith ago.
I explained to Pratt that the Agency has no record of any prior cor)-es-
pondence from however, we were corresponding based on Representative Drinan's letter, with h i him directly
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Representative George Miller (D. , Calif. ), in response to his call to,
Mr. Thuermer's office inquiring as to the status of a Freedom of
Information request from a constituent, E_: I I informed
Rob that a final response was being sent is week.
prepared statement for the Representative Bella. Abzu z1VA~ . Ya.azn
hearing, 23 July 1975, to Tim Ingram, of the House Govc r?nn ij.
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Operations Committee staff.
25. Picked up a. letter from Senator
Adlai F. Stevenson, . , I11.) for Mr. George L. Cary.
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prepared statement, for the Representative Bella Abzug (D. , N. Y .
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hearing of 2,3 July 1975, to one staff member from each. of our oversight
committees, Ralph Preston, House Appropriations Committee staff,
Frank Slatinshek, House Armed Services Committee staff, Ed Braswell,
Senate Armed Services Committee staff, and Guy McConnell, Senate
Appropriations Committee staff.
27. Called Steve,Skarickea NSC staff
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him if he had received the transcripts of the U-2 incident fron - _e and
Defense. He said he had received them and had sent them with their ecorn--
mendations to General Brent Scowcroft, USAF, Deputy Assistant for National-
Security Affairs. I then called Donna Larsen, in the office of John 0. Marsll,
Counsellor to the President, and advised her of the situation, I asked if she
could check with Mr. Marsh and see if he could do anything to hurry this up
for us as the Senate Foreign Relations Committee was giving us a had t:i:me.
She said she would talk to Mr. Marsh as soon as possible.
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4. (Internal Use Only - RJK) Called Richard Kaufman, Gceneral
Counsel, Joint Economic Committee, and told him that t:he transcript of the
Director's I8 June 1975 testimony before the Subcommittee on Prioriti.e and
Economy in Government had been sanitized and approved and would be
delivered by courier to his office this afternoon. In addition, the courier
would give him for his review, and later pick up a copy of the paper on
Soviet military expenditures that he had requested.
5. (Internal Use Only - RJK) Spoke with Joanne O'Neal, on the staff
of Senator Harry F. Byrd, Jr. (I., Va. ), and nave her an cxTalana.f.i.or,. fol-
the turn-down of the application of
whose father h-,d
written to the Director and had provided a copy of his letter to, Senator STAT
Byrd. Ms. O'Neal appreciated our letter to the Senator and this follow---up,.
6. (Unclassified - RJK) William Wilson, on the staff of Repres?rnta:t:iW
Frederick W. Richmond (D. , N. Y. ), called to ask sols-ie questions about` the
Agency method of responding to constituent requests under the IOTA. T
was happy to answer his questions to his complete saflararfink, STAT
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7. (Internal Use Only - RJK) Spoke with David Nickels, Arms
Control and Disarmament Agency, cn nt to who wanted. to know
whether Representative Les Aspin (D. , Wisc.) has ever been briefed at the
compartmented level. He understands that we do not "clear" Congressman..
I told him that as a member of the House Armed Services Committee, Aspin.
had been present at Agency briefings where at least a portion of the information
was in the compartmented area.
8. (Internal Use Only - RJK) Richard Kaufman, General Counsel,. STAT
Joint Economic Committee, called to ask for a second review of an Agency
publication on Soviet military expenditures which Congre-s._,
sional Support Officer, OCI, let him see some time ago. I told him we would
try to get it up to him tomorrow. I Iwill provide us with a STAT
copy of it.
9. (Unclassified - TW) Spoke with Mr. Reeves, in the office of
Representative Carl D. Perkins (D. , Ky. ), regarding a sealed envelope
forwarded to the Director by Perkins. Per Perkins' letter to Director Colby,
the envelope was; given to Perkins by Ronald Herald of Newport, Ky.. The
envelope contained a letter from a Marion Herald in which Mr. Herald:
complained of activities emanating from the Court House in Newport, Ky..
After discussing the subject matter with Reeves, he stated that no further
response was necessary.
10. (Unclassified - TW) I spoke with Tim Ingram, Counsel, House
Government Operations Subcommittee on Government Information and
Individual Rights, regarding his list of items for follow-up arising out of
the 25 June hearing before that Subcommittee. I mentioned that we were
finalizing our response to questions raised at the hearing and would like to
have his list in order to address all items in our package. He stated he had
already sent the list which apparently got lost and would send us another copy.
I said we would forward our response within a couple of days after receipt of
his list. He seemed satisfied with this timetable.
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Met with Repress r~t~r.tive Lucien
Nedzi. (D. , Mich. ) outside of the House Chamber and provided him with a
copy of the Director's letter to the Postmaster General, of 16 3uly 1975.
Mr. Nedzi had received this information earlier from Reprersent:ative
David Henderson, (D. , N. C. ) Chairman of the House Post Office, and
Civil Service Committee. I also provided a copy of the letter a n.d alert
to the Postmaster General's possible release of it this a.f_teacr,oon to our
oversight committees (Messrs. Frank Slatinsh.ek, Ralph Preston, CJ ark
McFadden, and Guy McConnell. ).
15. Received a call from Mark lle.inrnan,
orl the staff of Representative Les Aspin (D. , Wis. ), who wan tecl to talk
about Somalia. He asked if there was any possibility that what the
members who visited Somalia saw and what: has been reported at Berbe-rri
does not really exist. I told Kleinman there was no chance of this since not
only had the members seen it, but we had photographed it. He said
fine and then I went on to ask if I could have someone. talk to him about 25X1
the possibility that the-AID cut-off had ar.ythirig to do with the Somalia coup.
I told him I would have got in touch wit:li him on. tl-his_
17, Talked with Jack Maury, Deputy- Assistant
y ~Secretary o e ense, Legislative Affairs, who said among other thintrs,
that he was accompanying Secretary James R. Schlesinger to a rneet:in,
with Senator John L. McClellan (D. , Ark.) this afternoon for the purpose
of briefing him on "the recent information concerning Chile, " He said the
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as already seen Chairmen Melvin Price (D. , 111,) and
John Stennis (D. , Miss. ).
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18. Hand carried the statistics of five inserts
in the domestic mail to George Gould, on the staff of the Post Office and
Civil Service Subcommittee on Postal Facilities, Mail and Labor Mana'en-lcnt...
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statistics, along with the Director's testimony on insertions were sent
to Don Purcell.
19. Called Donna Larson, in the office of
Mr. John Marsh, Counsellor to the President, and asked if she could
check with the NSC staff and find out when we might, expect a decision on
the sanitization of the U-2 incident transcripts. She said she would check
and let me know.
Later in the day, I received a call from Steve Skancke, of the NSC
staff, regarding the transcripts. He asked if we had cleared these with
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State Departmeent or Defense Department. After checking I told him we
had not. He said he would send each of these Departments a copy and get
their opinions. I asked how long this would take, adding that we were
really being pushed by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to give
them an answer. Skancke said he should have an answer hack by Monday,
21 July.
20. Oija Stacks, in the office of Representative
Jack Edwards (R. , Ala. ), called and said they had never received a. responses
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told her I would have call her back.
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1. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Had several conversations during the
day with Donald Williams of the FBI, concerning the Agencys and the.-
Bureau's replies to the request of Chairman Frank Church (D., Idaho) and
Vice-Chairman John G. Tower (R., Texas) on the files of members of
the Senate Select Committee. In response to my query, Mr.. Williams sad. that
no CIA material was involved in their replies and I reviewed the references-
to FBI material involved in our proposed replies.
2. (Unclassified -- LLM) George Berdes, consultant to Chairman
Clement Zablocki's (D., Wisc. ) House International Relations Subcommittee
on Internal Security and Scientific Affairs, called to request: a briefing? of the
Subcommittee by Mr. Duckett on the afternoon of 23 July 1975 in the context of
the Vladivostok accords. Mr. Berdes said that the Subcommittee had found
previous such briefings by Mr. Duckett to be most helpful and I told him
we would see what arrangements could be made.
3. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Called Joseph Murray? Inter national
Division of the General Accounting Office, concerning his earlier calls on.
Agency information concerning the effectiveness of control of nuclear material
and told him that on two of the topics, we would have to refer him. back to
ERDA and on the third, on which we do have some information, we would
prefer to deal directly with the House International Relations Committee.
Mr. Murray had no problem with this response, but requested a letter frorn
us which he could show to the International Relations Committee:. which
had levied the requirement on GAO. I then explained this would not be
necessary as we had already discussed this with Marian Czarnecki, Chief
of Staff, Committee on International Relations and Murray agreed.
4. (Internal Use Only - LLM) Called Emerson Brown,.. Ski-. 1't.e sartir nt:,.
and he agreed that State's response to the request of the Multinational Corporations.
Subcommittee, Senate Foreign Relations Committee, for information on Gulf Oil
Corporations' political contributions in Korea would not be extended to the GIA.,
(See Journal Item - 3 July 1975).
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6. (Unclassified - LLM) Ron Taminen, Legislative Assistant
to Senator William W. Proxmire (D. , Wis. ), called to advise that the
Senator would be speaking on the Senate floor this afternoon to cover
the material contained in the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on
Housing and Urban Development, and Independent Agencies' report on
Mr. Duckett's testimony of 4 June 1975. The Director's and Mi-. Duckett's
offices, and Mr. Thuermer were advised.
7. (Unclassified - LLM) Emerson Brown TNR. Stas-e, culled
in connection with the handling of a request received by State from the
Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on Multinational Corporations
for information on political payments in Korea by Gulf Oil. Brown said
they had a. statement from of the Agency, that the Agency possessed
no information on this subject, and the responsible State official wanted to
include that statement in State's reply. This was contrary to the agreement
reached by Brown and myself on 3 July 1975, which is the reason why Brown
called. I told him I would get back to him.
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to a briefing session with Dan Spiegel.,
Legislative Assistant to Senator Hubert H. Humphrey (D. Minn.), and
Steve Bryon, Executive Assistant to Senator Clifford P. Case (R. , N. J. ).
In addition to being on the personal staffs of Humphrey and Case, Spiegel
and Bryen also served the Senators in connection with their Foreign STAT
Relations Committees responsibilities. The briefing was on economical,
political,
in preparation for a trip by the staffers to this area. The briefing went very well,
with Bryen taking an assertive lead in ;questioning. There were several. follow-
up items and both agreed that the briefing would be treated as off-the-record
and not for attribution.
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10. (Internal Use Only - RJK) Spoke with Jim Guirard, Adn-iinistra.?-
tive Assistant to Senator Russell B. Long (D. , La. ).. He wanted to get
Secret or Top Secret clearances in order to be able to sit in on some of
the briefings Senator Long receives and has the Senator's approval to do so.
I explained our method of dealing with our Committee staff and the "need
to know" principle. I suggested to Guirard that he raise the questions of
DOD representative and he said that be would.
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3? Met with Representative Robert Giaimo
(D. , Conn. ) this afternoon to tell him the Director felt he had had a. good
tall-, with him on the phone the other day and wanted him to have the thrust
of his (the Director's) letter of 25 June 1975 to Chairman George H. Mahon
(D., Tex.) House Appropriations Committee, on the intelligence community
budget. I left with Giaimo a blind copy of this letter. I also discussed with
Mr. Giaimo the same points which I had covered in greater detail with Ralph
Preston and Chuck Snodgrass, House Subcomi-nittee on Defense, Committee
on Appropriations staff, at lunch earlier in the day.
I mentioned to Mr. Giaimo that I had received from the Office of
Training, some of the comments which had been matte by the Members of
the Advanced Intelligence Seminar which he spoke to some time ago in their
critique of the speakers who addressed them. I told hire the comments I was:
giving him a copy of (without attribution to individuals, of course) was not
all inclusive but was representative of the critiques given of his talk. In
general, the comments were that Mr. Giaimo was fair and candid,, although
he admittedly did not know an awful lot about the intelligence community or
its processes. He appeared genuinely interested in these comments: and in
response to my suggestion that he speak to one of these groups again after we
had given him a break, he said he would be happy to do so.
24. Since I was on the hill, l: dropped by to see
Pat Holt, on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee staff, in response to ha s>
telephone call to the office. Holt very politely needled me about the transcript:
of the Dulles testimony on the U-2 incident which he had sent: to us for security
review some time ago. I told him we had been quite prepared to send this bacl,,
to the Committee some time ago, but when we found that the, Committee- had
made queries to the Department of Defense and on the
testimony of other witnesses on this subject and that there were inter--related
interests between State, Defense and ourselves of the testimony of each other,,
that this had slowed down the security review process considerably. I told
him that it was high time this had been completed, however, and that I would
make every effort to get the transcript back to him within the next. few days.
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to be back in touch with him concerning his inquiry about Mobutu during my
absence several weeks ago, but that other priorities had pushed this to the
back burner temporarily. We went over the subject including and.
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conversations with him and I told hi.rn if tbore was anything
further on this subject that would be back in touch. with him ..
25. Called Naomi Sweeney, OMB, regarding propose
regulations covering garnishment proceedings against federal ea-nployees. Such
proceedings were authorized under PL 93-64:7. Ms. Sweeney gave me flat- impros
sion that: things weren't moving too rapidly on this matter and referred: nee to
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7. Called Gary Clary, Administrative
Assistant to Senator Strom Thurmond (IR. , S. C. ), rerfardin-a the- Senator's
bill, S. 1395, to insulate armed forces medical personnel from. malpractice
suits. About a month ago I had asked Clary to see if the Senator might be
willing to add CIA physicians to this bill, but had received no -response from..
Clary. He said he had mentioned it to Senator Thurmond but had r:xot. received
a final response and would ask him again. I told Clary I would ask Mr. Cary
tq call the Senator to promote such a move.
8 First thing this morning, I received. a call from.
Chairman Lucien Nedzi (D., Mich.) expressing further concern over the
articles reporting on Searle Field's, of House Select Committee staff,
memorandum of what he saw in Agency files about CIA, "infiltration" at the
White House. He said. he would like to review the material seen by Field
and Jack Boos, I-louse Select Committee staff, at Headquarters when. they
visited here. I told him I would be happy to bring the material to him a-ad
have Walter Elder, of the Review Staff, go up to talk to him about it this
morning if he wished. Elder and I subsequently met with the Cha.irrnan at
10:00 a. m. in his office. He reviewed the material and could find no logical
basis for the conclusions stated in Field's memora.ndtuum. He then asked if
it would be possible for us to release the text of the page of the summary of
the 13 August 1973 document that contained references to the detailed Agency
personnel to the White House staff. Elder and I agreed to look into this, 1725X1
expressed some concern about including names of individuals especially in
reference to
We talked to Mr. Nedzi about seeing Representative Robert W. Ka.st:ezr
(R., Wis.) on this since Kasten had made a number of public statements
based on Field's memorandum and staff briefings on this subject. M.r. Neciri
suggested that we leave this in his hands for the moment and. we gladly
acceded. He also commented that he planned to talk to Searle Field on the
subject. A short time later, Nedzi contacted me and asked to look at the
material again because of references Field made to statements in the
documents pertaining, In view of another commitment that I I' ad,
I left this matter in Mr. Elder's hands.
9. At the request of Yrank Slatinshek, of the
House Armed Services Committee staff, I called Ken I-larcling, Sera ea.n.t a
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17. Received a call from Jack Marsh,
Counsellor to te President for Legislative Affairs, who said that
Representative George H. Mahon (D., Tex.) had contacted the White House
and expressed opposition to the Agency's appointment of I las 25X1
special counsel. Marsh was interested in my reaction to Mahon's attitude
and asked whether anyone had alerted the White House on this matter in
advance. I gave Marsh my rationale for Mr. Mahon's position, which is
based on pressure I believe he is receiving from certain members of the 25X1
Defense Appropriations Subcommittee, and I advised him that the matter of
a special counsel had been discussed in advance with Philip Buchen, Counsel
to the President, and had talked with Buchen this morning
about the selection of I lan Buchen had indicated he thought
was a good choice. Mars asked me for this information. He said this
was probably a matter that would receive the attention of the President.
18. Mr. Duckett called to advise me of the
contact made witti im by General Don Johnson, Director, Defense Nuclear
Agency, concerning Duckett's testimony before Senator William Proxmire'[.
(D., Wis.) Appropriations Subcommittee regarding the Soyuz/Apollo flight.
General Johnson told Duckett that he was in agreement with Duckett's
statement as. released by Senator Proxmire and that he
intends to contact George Lowe, Deputy Director of NASA about the danger
of proceeding with the flight while the present Soviet spacecraft is in orbit..
Mr. Duckett merely wanted to alert me to these facts.
19. Emerson Brown, INR, Sttatee called in
connection with a request they had received from the Senate Foreign Relations
Subcommittee on Multinational ' Corporations, for information on political
payments in Korea by Gulf Oil Corporation. Brown said that the responsible
State official wanted to know what information the Agency possessed and said
he had been told by Agency officials that they would not respond without a
written request from State. In response to my question, Brown said the
Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on Multinational Corporations' request
was limited to State information and on that basis, I 'recommended that State's
response be limited to that request, explaining that we had met with the
Subcommittee staff on this subject; that as a matter of policy, we prefer to
deal directly with the requester and the Subcommittee is aware that U. S.
corporations are outside of our general charter and any substantial information
we have incidentally collected is referred to the appropriate departments or
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Confirmed with Emerson Brown,
that he now had sufficient information to handle the
request received by Assistant Secretary Philip Habib (Bureau of East
Asian and Pacific Affairs) State Department from Representative Bill
Chappell (D., Fla.) concerning the Agency publication dealing with
Communist trade activities in less developed countries.
6. In response to his earlier query, spoke
with Martin Thibault, Staff Assistant to Representative James Manley
(D. , N. Y.) and informed him of my conversation with Mr. Manley on
1 May on a sensitive'Agency project and that we are in the process of
making arrangements to brief Arthur Sampson of GSA on this matter.
I told him that Mr. Hanley had indicated that there was no need for GSA
to reply to his letter and Thibault said he would. remind Mr. Hanley
of this conversation and be back in touch with us if anything further
is needed.
7. Ted Lunger, House Armed Services
Committee staff, called concerning arrangements for our assistance
in connection with the travel of a congressional delegation from the
House Armed Services Committee to Somalia.
8. Met with John Ford, House Armed.
Services Committee staff, and arrangements were made to brief he and
Ted Lunger and possibly Representative Robert Leggett, who may be added
to the congressional delegation traveling to Somalia, for 0930 hours tomorrow.
I also reviewed with Ford certain sensitive information bearing on their trip.
9. Bill Hogan, House Armed Services
Committee staff, called to report the outcome of his review of Committee
records on the delivery of the statement of Director of Central Intelligence
Hillenkoetter before the House Armed Services Committee on 8 April 1948
on H. R. 5871, the Central Intelligence Agency Act of 1949. Hogan reported
that Chairman Shaffer of Subcommittee Number Three had started to report
on the provisions of H. R. 5871 on 15 May but that the minutes indicate that
he did not get very far. On 4 May, Hillenkoetter appeared in executive
session before the full Committee and it is clear from the minutes of that
session that there had been previous Subcommittee hearings and. presumably
this did happen on 8 April 1948 but the full Committee minutes are not
clear on this point. Hogan said there are no transcripts available; all.
sessions were executive and the only records are the minutes from which
he garnered the only relevant information as reported above.
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0. Jane Mathias, in the office of Senator
'Ford called and asked if Mr. Colby testified last year
I said he did and that Senator Stuart Symington had placed the
testimony in the Congressional Record. I told her I would call her back with
the date and page numbers.
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11. Talked with Jack Boos, I-louse Select
Committee staff, and advised him I had talked with Chairman Lucien Nedzi
last night concerning Boos' request for a low-key briefing on the organization
of the Agency. I told Boos we would give them a "Brookings type" briefing
and we scheduled a meeting on the Hill for 3:00 p.m. on Monday, 7 July.
12. Marian Czarnecki, House International
Relations Committee staff, called to alert us to the fact that the Committee
may possibly call the Director on a moment's notice to come up on Tuesday,
8 July, I Czarnecki said this was very tentative but they 25X1
are thinking of havinj Dr_ Kissinger_up in the morning and might want the
Director in the afternoon. He will be back in touch with us.
has been alerted.
13. Jack Blake, DDA, called to alert me to the
fact thajilije D a n apparently is responding to an inquiry from.
Representative Jack Brooks about the destruction or abandonment of money in
Saigon prior to the U. S. withdrawal. According to Blake's information, State's
original intention was to take the total figure of funds destroyed or abandoned
and prorate that figure among the various U. S. departments and agencies. Our
Finance people ,objected to this especially since no Agency money was lost.
Blake thought we might want to make our position clear to Brooks.
I called Sam Goldberg, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for
Congressional Relations, and asked him about this inquiry and State's proposed
reply. Goldberg said he had heard about the incoming inquiry and said the reply
would come through his office. I told him I would be-.interested in knowing how
State proposes to answer this question and indicated to Goldberg that no Agency
funds were either destroyed or abandoned. Goldberg promised to call me back
on this.
14. Called Bill Hogan, House Armed Services
Committee staff, to alert him to reports we have received from sensitive source:
concerning activities going on in Somalia in anticipation of the U. S. congres siona
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Richard Lunger, of the Committee staff, today and would give them the details
on this. Hogan appreciated my calling him and said as long as Ford and Lunger
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11. Emerson Brown- i`~fe-nP~artmen
called to report that Representative Bill Chappell (D. Fla.) had asked
Assistant Secretary Philip Habib (Bureau of East Asian and. Pacific
Affairs) State Department during the session of the Subcommittee on.
Foreign Operations, House Appropriations Committee, to check to
determine why he had been cut off from distribution of an Agency publication
dealing with Communist trade activities with less developed countries.
After checking with OCI, I learned that this series, classified.
secret, is turned into an unclassified report once a year and since we have
no record of having provided it to Mr. Chappell, it probably was forwarded
by State. will close this out with Mr. Brown.
I discussed with Brown the pending Intelligence Sources and Methods
legislation and it was his opinion that the USIB session had not served the
purpose we originally had hoped to attain. Interestingly, as a. result of
our education on this issue, State is now thinking of separate legislation
to take care of their problem which would not be covered by the Director's
proposal. I said that I did not think there would be any problem in drafting
a specific,narrow statute and they might be able to use terms such as
information provided by foreign governments in confidence or obtained in
confidence as at least part of the definition of the information. to be protected
from unauthorized disclosure.
12. Spoke with Representative Paul Sarbanes
(D., Md.) and closed out a follow up item from the Director's session on
Wednesday, 25 June,. He was very appreciative of our follow up.
13. In response to a call from Charles
Snodgrass, House Appropriations Committee staff, I told him where he
could get a copy of the Murphy Commission Report and if that did. not
work, I would find him a copy. I also promised to supply hint a transcript
of Mr. Colby's "Meet the Press" appearance last Sunday.
14. Called Bill Hogan, House Armed
Services Committee staff, and asked if he would be kind enough to review
Committee records to determine if Director of Central Intelligence Hillenkoetter
had -indeed testified on 8 April 1948 on H. R. 5871, the Central Intelligence
Agency Act of 1949. He said he would do this.
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