JOURNAL - OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

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• Publication Date: September 30, 1975
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'Journal - Office of Legislative Counsel
Tuesday 30 September 1975
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10. (Unclassified - GLC) LIAISON Met with Senator Milton
Young (R. , N. Dak. ) and his Administrative As sistant, Bill Wright,
and provided them with a draft reply to the letter from IIal Simons,
of TIIE FORUM. Wright had also prepared a draft reply which
paralleled our paper to an amazing degree---i.n fact it was much snore
critical of. Simons than our letter. It did contain some inaccuracies
however, which I called to their attention. I left with the impression
that Wright will combine some of the points of our letter with his draft
in the final version that goes to Simons.
11. (Secret - GLC) LIAISON In response to his request, net
with Jim Gehrig, Professional Staff Member, Senate Committee on
Aeronautical and Space Sciences, who explained in further detail the
briefing they would like for the new Staff Director, Gilbert Keyes, at
Headquarters sometime next week. Ile introduced nee to Keyes and
then mentioned they were considering writing a letter to N- asking
for information on Soviet space failures, but wanted to talk with us about:
it in advance. He said he assuzned.LLA would come to us for the
information. I told him I would talk with Carl Duckett, DDS&T, about
this but I expected if anything was to be released it should be by the
Agency directly and not through N I added I was not too optimistic
that much could be done about this. I said I would be back in touch with
him on a date for the briefing session.
12. (Secret - GLC) LIAISON Met with Guy McConnell, Senate
Appropriations Committee staff, and covered a number of items with
him including: our suggested reply for Senator Milton Young (R. , N. Dak. );
a copy of our letter to Chairman George Mahon, House Appropriations
Committee, on the budget and the Director's Reserve Release letter of
26 September; and mentioned the request we had received from the
Senate Select Committee for specific information including the amounts
of funding of covert action programs.
13. (Confidential - GLC) LIAISON Met briefly with Clark McFadden,
General Counsel, Senate Armed Services Com.mi.ttee, and revised the
information previously f.iven to him co.zcerning our review of the Directorrs
SALT testimony before the Arms Control Subcommittee of 11 February 1975,
I told him that we had de::iclecl to provide our deletions to Chairma Henry
Jackson and let: him reach his own cone usions on the basis of those deletions.
(The issue of deletions Trade because of diplomatic and similar negotiations
is still. unresolved. )
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Friday - 26 September 1975
6.. (Confidential -- GLC) THIRD AGENCY DDO, 25X1
called to discuss a matter which has been the topic of discussion between
State Department and Agency representatives concerning anticipated
contact by State with Senators Hubert Humphrey (D. , Minn.) and
Daniel K. Inouye (D. , Hawaii) and Representative Otto Pa. ssn-ia.n (D, , La. )
State is co:ncerned
a contacts with these members may raise questions regarding recent
findings made by the President under the Foreign Assistance Act and
wondered how this could best be handled. The suggestion had been made
that if these members raise a question in this subject area. they be referred
to the Agency. I suggested as an alternative that State Department contact
the Chairmen of the committees involved (House and Senate Appropriations
and House International Relations and Senate Foreign. Relations) in advance
and obtain their approval of State's merely referring these members to those
Committee Chairmen if the question arises. I subsequently cleared this
approach with the Director and so notified 25X1
7., (Secret - GLC) LIAISON Contacted Russ Rourke, in the office
of John O. Marsh, Counsellor to the President, to alert him t:o the status
of our dealings with the NSC staff on the Director's testimony on SALT
for Senator Henry Jackson' s (D. , Wash.) Arms Control Subcommittee of
Senate Armed Services. Rourke asked that we let hiism: know when the
transcript goes to Armed Services. Later in the day, I told him that the
transcripts had gone and we had gotten some feedback from Richard Perle,
of Senator Jackson's office, and we would be dealing with him regarding the
deletions. I also mentioned that we were in close touch with Les Janka,
of the NSC staff, on this.
8.. (Confidential - GLC) LIAISON Jim Geh.rig, on the staff of the
Senate Aeronautical and Space Sciences Committee, called to say that a now
Staff Director, Gilbert Keyes, has recently been appointed and Gehrig would
like to arrange a "thorough briefing" for him. He said he hated to tic up
Carl Duckett and whoever we thought were competent persons to brief him
were perfectly acceptable to them. He also indicated that he would like to
talk with me in the next day or two regarding some thoughts they had about
sending a letter to NASA which has some repercussions as far as the Agency
is concerned. Gehrig wanted to talk to is before sending such a letter.
I told him I would drop by to see him probably on. Monday, meanwhile we will
get in touch with Mr. Duckett's people to set up a b:rrieiing on Soviet space
missiles and related programs for Keyes.
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Wednesday - 24 September 1975
16. (Confidential - GLC) LIAISON Charles Lombard, Assistant to
Senator Barry Goldwater (R. , Ariz. ) on the Senate Select Committee, called
to say that last Friday, General Lew Allen, testified in executive
session before the Senate Select Committee and said he could not testify
in open session. Lombard said Chairman Frank Church has since made
representations that Secretary of Defense Schlesinger might be willing to
have some of NS material released, specifically the Watch List. He said
from their vantage point it looks like the Administration is in disarray.
Lombard said the other day, when he lunched with Mr. Colby, the Director
suggested perhaps he and Schlesinger could write a letter to Church. He
said Senator Goldwater has opposed open hearings but he would. like' to know
just what the Administration's position is regarding NSA. I said I would
get in touch with the Director and 25X1
After consulting with General Walters, I called Lombard back and
told him that the DCI and General Allen were going to the Senate Select
Committee this afternoon to appeal to th of to'.have open hearings on NSA.
"'Thave been advised.
17. (Unclassified -- GLC) LAISION Representative Ralph S. Regula
(R. , Ohio) called and asked if the Director could be available to Make a.
radio tape with Regula. I told him I would talk, with. the Director and
call him back. as been advised.
18. (Confidential - GLC) LIAISON Called Senator. John Stennis and
advised him that the Director would be calling Senator Henry M. Jackson,
to recommend against publication of any of the DCI's testimony on SALT
on 11 February 1975 on grounds that it would violate US/USSR negotiation.;
agreements. Stennis said "that should appeal to him."
19. (Confidential - GLC) LIAISON !Talked with Bob. Wolthius, White Houss
staff, regarding the Director's briefing members of Congress at the White
House He said this might be held in
the rooms a the House International Relations Committee although it was not a.
Committee briefing as such. He said he would not arrange for this to take
place on Friday since the Director is scheduled to appear before the Senate
Select Committee on Friday at 10:00 a. m.
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Monday - 22 September 1975
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4. (Confidential - LLM) LIAISON In the company of 25X1
met with Representative Dante Fascell (D. , Fla. ) concerning the
Comptroller General's letter to the Director of 9 September 1975 requesting
"any and all information possessed by the Agency on the May_a.guc_ r incident
and other documents. " It was explained that in the interest of limiting
the unnecessary proliferation of sensitive Agency information, we have
for more than a quarter of a century preferred to deal directly with
the committees rather than with them through the GAO and that we thought
that any change in the method of operation should await the findings of the,
Select Committees who obviously will be faced with. the problem of which
institutions or committees of Congress should be provided access to the,
various types of information possessed by the Agency. Mr. Fascell was
understanding of our position, was of a disposition to call off the GAO
in this instance, at least until the issue is resolved, and in general said
he was supportive of GAO assuming a greater role in support: of the
Congress. Mr. Fascell will talk to GAO and will then advise us of his
decision.
5. (Unclassified ?- D.FM) LIAISON In response to his call to OGC,
I called in the General Counsel's office at: NSA, and gave him
Core sstona ecord cites to the June 1974 debate on the Proxmire open
budget proposal.
6. (Unclassified - RC) BRIEFING Accom??anied 25X1
EA/VNO, to meet with Robert Schick, of Senator Hugh
Scott's (R. , Pa. ) office, to discuss Indochinese refugees. Mr. Schick s
main concern was what would happen to Vietnam. and Cambodian refugees
who returned to their home countries; would they be subjected to reprisals
or death. He was also interested in what needed to be done about the
Laotian refugees on Thailand who might wish to come to the United States.
7. (Unclassified - RC) THIRD AGENCY Called J. J. Hitchcock,
Department of State, on the declassification of an. agreement between .RLG
and the USG on integration of Moo forces into FAR. I said the declassi.fica.tioa
would probably create fot eign relation problems for the USG but the Agency
cannot by itself object to . t:s declassi.fication. Whereas our method of doing
business may be discloses, but at this time it is not sufficient: to bar
de classi.fi.cation. He said the foreign relations orobiern. was for State to
decide and asked if the des lassificat:ion would create a heartburn for us.
.1 replied in the affirmative but said the heartburn was not sufficient and
painful enough for us to as !.c that it not b d . , f
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14. (Unclassified --, PLC) FOIA Received a call from Elizabeth
Stevenson, in the Palo Alto, Ca. office of Representative Paul N. McCloskey
(R.. , Calif. ), inquiring as to the status of the Freedom of Information request
of Joe Siler. After checking with IRS, I called her back and told her that a
final reply would be sent within a few days.
15. (Confidential - PLC) THIRD AGENCY Called Mr. Eireich,
Associate Director for Communications and Data Information, GAO, in
response to his earlier call (see 19 Sept. journal, item It 5) and informed him
that we have no knowledge of any attempt to technically compromise computer.
systems. I made it clear, however, that this should not give him any
assurances that the threat does .not exist since our systems are protected
by encryption and other means. He said he understood and will confine his
study to agencies such as Commerce whose systems are comparable to the
proposed systemfor the Internal Revenue Service and are not encrypted. 25X1
He assured me that our response and those of the FBI, NSA, which were also
negative were informal and are not to be included in any GAO report that he
prepared. This request and the response were discussed with
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Friday - 19 September 1975
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4. PLC) LIAISON Called Jim Davidson,
Counsel, Senate Government Operations Subcommittee on Intergovernmental
Relations, and informed him that a decision had not, yet i.een made as to
whether the Director would accept the invitation of the Subcommittee to
testify on 3 October on the subject of congressional access to executive
information. I told him a decision should be made by early next week. Ile
stated that Senator Frank Church (D. , Idaho), Chairman, Senate Select
Committee,. will testify but it is not clear at this time whether Representative
Otis G. Pike (D. , N. Y.) Chairman, House Select Committee, will also appear..
5. LC) THIRD AGENCY Mr. Eireich, Associate
Director for Communications and Data Information, GAO, called. GAO is
reviewing the security of a new ADP computer system for the .Internal Revenue
Service. The' system is vulnerable to compromise 'and GAO must: deter mine
whether it should be en-crypted. He had checked with NSA- and FBI as t(o'whet:her
they were. aware of any cases whereby a system has been compromised through
the intecept of magnetic radiation or on-line: tapping. . Both agencies were negat:iv
Charles Nudorfer, FBI, had suggested that Eireich contact CIA,_
Who is responsible,: for computer security. Eireich was advised by his people-
that he should :check our office and not contact.IIirectly. ? I told him. I would.
check and call him back. 25X125X1
6. PLC) LEGISLATION Called Bob Carlstrozn,
OMB, and in response to my query, he stated that an Administration position
had not yet been formulated on S. 2170. I told him that a decision had not yet
been made as to whether the Director would accept the, invitation to testify on
3 October before the Senate Government Operations Subcommittee on
Intergovernmental Relations, on the bill. He asked th;tt we clear the Director's
statement viith them prior to his appearance if be agre ~s to testify.
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