JOURNAL - OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

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• Publication Date: October 24, 1975
• Content Type: NOTES

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6. LIAISON Met with Frank Slatinshek,
Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee; Ralph Preston,
staff member, I-louse Appropriations Committee; Clark McFadden,
Counsel, Senate Armed Services Committee; Guy McConnell, staff
member, S .nat A pro nriations Committee, and briefed them on the
following:
Ithe transfer of Agency toxins to NIH; the
declassification of Agency documents furnished to the Warren Comn-ission,
the status of Senator Edward M. Kennedy's (D., Mass. ), Senate Judici.arir
Subcommittee on Administrative Practice and Procedure inquiry into
human experimentation by the Agency; and the present offer to buy the
remaining assets of Air America.
7.1 I LEGISLATION Called Jim Michie,
Senate Judi r=subcommittee on Administrative Practice and Procedure
staT member, and informed him that a decision was made by the
Director that we would not make Agency files available to the Subcommittee
staff for their review to determine what material they considered
relevant to their inquiry. I confirmed with him our honest intention to
be cooperative and to provide complete information to the Subcommittee
necessary and relevant to their proposed legislation. I further explained
that any material provided would have to be sanitized to remove names and
operational information. He reacted strongly and insisted that they should
be permitted to review our material in order to assure themselves that
we are not holding anything back. He added that they would put their
request for additional material made yesterday in writing and he insisted
that the Agency make clear its position in writing.
8. ADMINISTRATIVE Hank Knoche, IC
Staff, called to advise me that the Director had sent his reclama letter to
Chairman John McClellan, Senate-Appropriations Committee, to OMB
Director Lynn for coordination of an Administration position and then
transmittal to Chairman McClellan.
9. LIAISON Called John Maury, Assistant
Secretary for Legislative Affairs, Department of Defense, to discuss the.
status of DOD contacts with the Senate Judiciary Subcommittees on
Administrative Practice and Procedure, and -:ea c foi their legislative
hearings. Maury was not personally familiar with the ^ase bu.t: gave :nie the
name of George Lippincott who is handling this within L OT). I will giv
Mr. Lippincott a call.
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10. I I LIAISON Called Tom Susman,
on the staff of Sen ,arr Subcommittee on Administrative Practice
and Procedure which is chaired by Senator Edward Kennedy (D., Mass. ),
on the subject of drug and behavioral testing. I told Susman that, as he
knew, we had provided the Subcommittee staff with a copy of the material.
Further, we had just about
pulled together the answers to questions which he had raised, but we
anticipated some difficulty in providing some of the specific documents that
have been requested by the Subcommittee staff members to date. I suggested
that I f our office, get with the Subcommittee staff and provide
them with as much information as possible on testing and we could see
where we go from there. Susman . was rather irritated that it had taken us
so long to respond but I pointed out that items such as the II documents38KJA
and answers to the questions they posed took some time to get together.
He agreed with my suggestion as a first step and I told him that
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an Agency witness for their hearings on the legislation Senator Kennedy
is introducing on drug and behavioral testing programs, that
would
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be the likely witness.
11. LIAISON Called Jim Galloway,
Counsel, Senate Appropriations Committee, and made arrangements
(which I later cancelled) for the Director to meet with Chairman
John McClellan to state his views on House cuts in the intelligence
community budget. In cancelling the appointment, I told Calloway that
the depth of the cuts in the Defense appropriations by the House Committee
have been so great that the Administration was re-thinking its position on the
matter and the Director was not in a position to meet with the Chairman
at this time.
12. LIAISON Attended a "mini'?' LIG meeting
in the Whl.te House on the subject of the current congressional investigations
of the intelligence community. (See Memo for the Record)
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19. LIAISON Called Bill Hogan, Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, concerning the GAO review of the
liquidation of the residual assets of Air America and he, said that it
looked like we had their endorsement and he will try to get to Chairman
Lucien Nedzi (D., Mich.) soonest. I reminded Hogan to raise with
Chairman Nedzi whether he still wanted us to get with Representative
Jack Brooks (D., Texas) on this directly.
20. LIAISON Called Elly V ogtinann,
Senate Foreign Relations Committee staff, and told her that Thursday,
6 November at 10:00 a, m. was fine for the Director to come up and
brief the Committee? After checking with Pat Holt, Staff Director,
Ms. Vogtmann said they would have a transcript.
21. HEARINGS Accompanied .
A/DDS&T and D/BAB/OTS, to brief Jim Michie, Investigator
on the Subcommittee on Administrative Practice and Procedure, Senate
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13. LIAISON Called Dee Woodberry,
in the Lakeland, Florida district office of Senator Lawton Chiles (D. , Fla. ),
in response to his inquiry concerning the disappearance of
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in an airplane crash off the coast of Alaska on 22 September (n. . L
Mr. Woodberry that our only information to date had been what we had
learned from another Congressman's office and, based upon that inforSTATOTHR
mation, I could tell him that had not been connected with
this Agency. Mr. Woodberry mentioned press inquiries he had received,
including some from Alaska. He also added that the widow, who lives
in the district, was attempting to have the Coast Guard continue their
search for her husband. Mr. Woodberry asked me to call him if I
received any additional information and I agreed to do so.
LIAISON Jim Michid S(>-{ 25X1A
JudiWa Subcommittee on Administrative Practice and Proce pre staff
called and requested certain additional Agency material on the
case and human experimentation. (See Memo for the Record)
I later called Michie back and ask that he put this request in writing,
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