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Friday - 31 October 1975
1. I I HEARINGS Jim Michie, Investigator, 25X1
Subcommittee on Administrative Practice and Procedure, Senate Judiciary
Committee, called and was told that would be in ouc
h1?T"s zor y to arrange a time when Mic ie co-u;=Come out and look at some
records. Michie asked for an opportunity also to meet with Dr. Sayre Stevefs,
A/DDS&T, for a few :minutes.
2. LIAISON I met with Richard H. White, Jr.,
Administrative Assistant to Representative Dale Milford D. Texas), to
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D/DCI/IC, on a return trip from Texas recently. White stated that
Representative Milford wants to meet with General Vernon A. Walters,
DDCI, to discuss Agency background. An appointment will be set up
through Executive Assistant to the Deputy Director.
I left with him a copy of General Walters' recent speech to the Dallas
Council on World Affairs.
3. I I LIAISON I met with Representative
Charles Rose, III D. , N. C.) to follow up on a conversation he had with
General Vernon A. Walters, DDCI, regarding Agency background. He
requested that literature on the Agency be forwarded to him. From his
questions, it was obvious that he had little background as to the Agency
and wanted to educate himself as to what CIA functions and responsibilities
are. He mentioned he was concerned with the evident trend being established
by the various investigations.
4. I I LEGISLATION Received a call from
Helen Sneed, who was calling for Bob Carlstrom, OMB. She said that
,our report on S., 774 and S... 815 had been cleared by OMB with no objections.
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12. LIAISON Met with Representative
Paul Rogers (D., Fla.), regarding the matter C/EA,
had discussed with him the other clay and he reassured me that he
had no intent of confirming the individual's relationship with the
Agency but that rather he would rely upon the Department of Justice'
reply to him.
13. LIAISON In follow.-up of a
previous request, met with George Berdes, Consultant, Subcommittee
on International Security & Scientific Affairs, House International.
Relations Committee, and provided for his review, but not for
retention, an October 1974 paper on nuclear safeguards under the
auspices of the International Atomic Energy Association which had
been prepared for this purpose 'as a lift out of an Agency paper. The
only question was that lie had been led to believe that the inspectors
were provided freer access to nuclear facilities than our paper indicated
and :[ said I would -check this out and be back in touch.
14. LIAISON Received a call. from Mike
Masterson, in the o- , ice o.. . epres entative John Anderson (R., Ill. ),
asking whether or not we could send him an FBIS survey report on
South Vietnam for a constituent. I told Masterson that I would have to
check on this and be back in touch with him.
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ADMINISTRATIVE -- DELIVERIES Dropped
off at the offices of Guy McConnell, on the staff of the Senate Appropriations
Committee, and Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel, Senate Armed Services
Committee, a blind memorandum on the floor amendment to I-I. R. 9005
on covert action. by Senator McGovern.
16. LIAISON Called Jinn Michiej
Judiciary Subc mittee on Administrative Practice and Procedure staff,
and informed him that we had some files ready for hint to review and an
appointment was made for him to interview Dr. Sayre Stevens, A/D.D S&T,
at 11:00 a. rn. Michie arrived around 11:00 a. m. and had the meeting with
Dr. Stevens and spent the balance of the clay in our offices reviewing
certain records on human use experimentation.
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12. HEARINGS .LIAISON Called George
Lippincott, in the office of John M. Maury, Assistant Secretary,
Legislative Affairs in the Department of Defense. lIe said that the
Department of Defense had not yet focused on the 7 November Kennedy
hearings on human-use drug experimentation. lie s receives Svc.
different position papers and will be n teeting with the authors on 31
October to coordinate a DOD position. DOD does not like the bill for
about five different reasons. Apparently, the Army, Navy and Air.
Force have been asked to provide witnesses.for the hearing. DOD was
wrestling with the questionnaire from the Subcommittee which lists all
sorts of funding mechanisms or research institutions.
13. LIAISON Called Marion Brickel.l,
on the staff of Representative Charles Rose, Ili (D. , N. C. ), to set up
an appointment with Congressman Rose to discuss his conversation with
General Vernon A. Walters, DDCL The appointment was set for 2:00 p. m.. ,
31 October.
14. LIAISON Called Richard H. White, Jr
on the staff of Representative Dale Milford (D. , Texas), to set up an
appointment with him to go over discussions of his with
D/DCI/IC. The meeting was set up for 2:30 p, rn. , 31. October
15. INTELLIGENCE BRIEFING Susan
Gustafson, Staff Assistant, House International Relations Conlrn.ittee,
called to change the time for the briefing of the Subcommittee on
International Trade & Commerce on the Arab Boycott Conference from.
1:30 to 2:00 p. in, on Monday, 3 Nove.,r~ber 1975.
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Thursday - 30 October 1975
1? LIAISON Met with Tom Smeeton,
on the staff of te House International Relations Con-mmittee, and advised
him, in connection with his inquiry on behalf of the staff of the Sub-
committee on Future Foreign Policy Research. and Development, that
if appropriate ground rules could be agreed upon. the Agency would be
able to provide someone to-testify on the Soviet /Chinese Commu.nist:/
U. S. power triangle.. The major ground rule would be an executive
session with no attribution. Smeeton said he would check with the
Subcommittee staff and be back inn contact with us. I spoke with Marian
Czarnecki, Chief of Staff of the Committee, to advise him of this inquiry
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In a separate matter, I passed on to S:naeeton classified
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unclassified biographic information on
a Panamanian official, about whom Smeeton had inquired.
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2? ADMINISTRA'T'IVE -- DELIVERIES
Delivered information relating to Senator Edward M. Kennedy's (D. , Mass. )
recent correspondence with the Agency to Frank Slatinshek, Chief Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, and Ralph. Preston, on the staff of the
Subcommittee on Defense, House Appropriations Committee.
June Clendening, Administrative Assistant to Representative 'Thomas L.
Ashley ?(D. , Ohio). She said -a-little girl who had pen pals in France,
Germany and Japan had not been receiving letters from there recently
and wondered if the Agency had anything to do with A. Mn. Cl.endening
and I chatted for a moment and arrived at an appropriate response to
the constituent. No further action is necessary,
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5. LIAISON Delivered to Jin:i Michie, Investi-
gator on the Subcommittee on Administrative Practice and Procedure,
Senate Judiciar r (~pmr e additional responses to Senator Edward M.
Kennedy's (D. , Mass. ) letter of 25 September 1975. I also took this
opportunity to give Michie a brief summary of the facts concerning the
1963 IG report on human use experimentation and the report on the
destruction of documents on the same subject. This was to give him.
notice that these two reports did not contain a fund of information on
these programs.
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CONSTITUENT In response to, her call,
in the office of Senator Barry Goldwater (R. , Ariz. ),
-]application was reviewed for any and all positions
I said that since no vacancies were found we had
sent him a reject letter. She thanked me for the information.
advised Ellen Thrasher,
that
he might e qua i ie oz
7. I I ADMINISTRATIVE DELIVERY In follow-up
of Walt Sheridan's, on the sta of the Subcommittee on Administrative
Practice and Procedure, Senate Judiciar Committee, call to the DCI of
28 October 1975, picked up the telegram and letter from
Senator Edward M. Kennedy (D., Mass. ) to the DCI this morning.
8. 1 -1 LIAISON Called Bill Hogan, Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, concerning Committee reaction to
GAO's report to them on their liquidation of residual assets by Air
America and was advised that Frank Slatinshek, Chief Counsel, House
Armed Services Committee, intends to discuss this with the Chairman
of the Committee, Melvin Price, and they will let us know the results
as soon as possible. Otherwise, Chairman Lucien Nedzi, Sub-
committee on Intelligence, is due back in town tomorrow.
has been advised..
9. I I LEGISLATION Sheraton Brinley,
AID, called and we discussed further requirements between us in connection
with the McGovern Amendment 959 to H. R. 9005 anal I outlined the points
we would be including in our paper and said we would have something for
him by the end of the week.
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10. I I THIRD AGENCY In response to his
earlier request and with the concurrence of the Review Staff, advise(]
Emerson Brown, INR/State, of the date of our Reserve Release
letters to the Chairmen of our. Appropriations Committees on a covert
action program.
11. I ADMINISTRATIVE DELIVERY
Delivered to the office of Senator John L. McClellan, (D. , Ark.), a
letter from the Director.
12. LIAISON Mr. Windis, i.n the
office of Department of Defense's General Counsel, called and asked
if oux;.Sourccs and Methods legislation was still in OMB. I said it wJs.
13.? INTELLIGENCE BRIEZ`ING Jack Brady,
I-louse International Relations Committee staff, called.and asked if the
Director could appear before the full Committee on 1.2 November at 2.00
m for an intelligence briefing on the Middle East. He said that
NIO/ME, had briefed the Special Subcoi'nmittee on
Investigations, chaired by Representative Lee H. Hamilton (D., Ind.),
on 21 October 1975 and Mr. Ilan-Alton was so impressed he asked
Chairman Morgan to have the. Director., come u.p and brief the full
Committee. After checking with the Director's office, the date and time
were confirmed.
14. L.EGIS.LATION Called Russ I-lour.ke, in
the office of Jack Mars z, Counsellor to the President;, and Les Janka,
NTSC, and alerted them to page S. 18762. of the Con 7r es jional Record]
of 28 October where Senator. Kennedy.spoke of the Government involvement
15, LIAISON Left for Guy McConnell,
on the staff of Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense, a copy
of the letter and telegram which the Director had received from Senator
Edward Kennedy (D., Mass.) today about the inquiry being rnad.e by his
Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Administrative Practice and Procedure
nee ion with hearings which will be held on the 7th of November.
I left McConnell a note with these materials :indi.cati.ng that.-,I was providing
them for its background information.
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16. LIAISON Met with. Ed Braswell, Chief
Counsel, Senate rme ervices Committee, and provided him with a copy
of the letter ail? telegram which the Director had received from Senator
Edward Kennedy (D. , Mass.) today about the inquiry being made by his Senate
J..d!.?,bcon-imittce on Administrative Practice and Procedure in
connection with hearings which will be held on the 7th of November. I
explained the status of our negotiations with the Subcommittee staff members
and indicated that while we had suggested to Senator Kennedy that his
effort was a duplication of the inquiry being conducted by the Senate; Select
Committee, we had been unsuccessful in avoiding going through this whole
process with his Subcommittee as well as the Senate Select Committee.
Braswell said he felt there was little their Committee could do (I mentioned
that I had discussed this matter 'with Chairman Stennis personally).
I told hire that we were keeping the White I-louse informed and would also
keep in touch with him regarding these inquiries.
Braswell renticin.ed. that' Bill Bader, SSC, had contacted him about
gaining access to our memoranda of briefings of t:he CIA Subcommittee
and Braswell. had indicated to Bader that he would not be able to do anything
about this until he had taken it up with the Committee.. He feels it is
unlikely that the Committee will want to make these documents available
to the Select Committee unless there is some uniform agreement among all
the oversight committees regarding documents of this sort: Ile also mentioned
that he had pointed out several problem areas that he could foresee in. providing
the Senate Select Committee with access to these documents.
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OFIPICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Tuesday - Z8 October 1975
1. I 1 LEGISLATION Received a call. from
George Gilbert, OMB, who notified me that the Agency's representatives
on the Law of the Sea Task Force had been provided a copy of the planned.
October 29 testimony of an Administration witness on the-subject of
deep sea bed mining. Gilbert asked that I contact the CIA representatives
and report to Gilbert if we have any comments on the proposed testi.n-lony,.
Subsequently, I called Frank Ros4sonT1ondo, OGCCR, and one of his assistants
told me they would notify me if there was any problem with the proposed
testimony.
Counsel to4r1 i t e 71:7 77-7 D r ices Committee, and relayed to him
figures provided me byl OMS, on the breakdown of
Federal doctors by organisation. I had earlier offered these figures to
McFadden in connection with the Agency's attempt to include our n-ledical-
staff within the scope of S. 1395, which would eliminate the personal
liability of armed services physicians from malpractice suits. McFadden
still had no prognosis on our chances for success.
3. I I LEGISLATION Called J. C. Argetsinger,
on the stale o Une Su Jcomnmittee on Criminal Laws and :Procedures, S .nay .e
T~ciic~ar r C n.mrn;ttr n?~ Argetsinger agreed to provide nae a copy of the
national security sections of S. 1, as reported by the. Subcorm.mittee. I
arranged to have the copy picked up tomorrow.
House International Relations Committee, called to request subscriptions
to all of the F13IS daily reports for John Ilol.stine, of the staff, PUS
Liaison was called and will initiate the subscriptions.
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10. HEARINGS Called Jim Michie, Investigator
on the Subcommittee on Administrative Practice and Procedure. Sn:
Judiciary Committee, teems and advised him that I would deliver additional responses
owe '7e nedy (Senator Edward M. Kennedy (D., Mass. )) letter on 29 October
1975 and that I would be prepared to brief him on the 1963 IG report as well as
the report on the destruction of records concerning the drug experimentation
program.
11. LIAISON Called Ron Tarnmen,
Legislative Assistant to Senator William Proxmire (D., Wis.), and he
said he would be pleased to give us a copy of the Senator's press release
on Soviet defense spending. Tammen also told me that GPO was supposed
to deliver to the Joint Economic ,Committee the sanitized version of
our testimony before the Subcommittee on Priorities & Economy in
Government, Joint Economic Committee, on 18 June 1975, on. Friday.
will check with Richard Kaufman, General Counsel of the
12. LIAISON Called Tim Ingram,
Staff Director, Subcommittee on Government Information & Individual
Rights, House Government Operations Committee, and explained that
ad retired from the Agency and in the ensuing discussion,
I said I had identified another official who would he able to discuss with
him the guidelines followed in connection with the Agency's periodic
review of the Warren Commission material in Archives. A meeting
was scheduled with In ram to meet with Messrs. Chief
Services Staff, and on Friday, 31 October at 1: 3 p. m.
13. LIAISON Emerson Brown, INR/State
Department, called in connection with his call of Friday and said he would
like to have specific dates on which we briefed our committees on a
sensitive project and I told him I felt there would. he no problem in
providing this but I did want to check with my colleagues, who were
coordinating other testimony on this same subject.
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17. LI.A.ISON Called Mildred Ward, secretary
to Senator John Stennis (D. , Miss. ), to find out how the Senator was doing
and where cards or letters could be sent. She said Walter Reed Hospital,
Ward 8. This was passed to in the Director's office.
18. LIAISON Talked to San Goldberg,
Congressional Relations Staff, State Department, and advised that I had sent
to Jack Marsh, Counsellor to the President, a list of requests we had
outstanding from. various committees and also a copy of Senator George
McGovern's (D. , S. Dak.) amendment to the Foreign Assistance bill
Goldberg was not aware of the
McGovern amendment but said he would look it up.
Goldberg said. they werei going before the house Select Committee
on Friday.
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19. HEARINGS Called Major George Lippencott.,
Department of Defense, and discussed the situation with Senator Edward
Kennedy's jD. , Ma:gs. ) Senate I on Administrative.
Practice and Procedure with respect to the Commission on Drug Control.
I asked if they were through with staff interviews, etc. , and he said they
were riot. ' -He said the Subcommittee staffs keep corn.ieg up with new requests.
He said they have received a telegram from Senator Kennedy inviting them to
testify at hearings on 7 November. Major Lippencott expects witnesses from
Army, Navy, and Air Force to testify. We agreed to keep each other
informed of developments.
20. ADMINISTRATIVE The Director called
to say that Chairman John McClellan, Senate Appropriations Committee.,
has received a letter from the Secretary of Defense on which he would like
the Agency's comments. He said a copy of the letter will be available
in Jim Calloway's, staff of the Senate Appropriations Corar ittee, office?
It was picked up and put in the hands of the DDI for preparation of a reply
by tomorrow morning at the latest.
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5' I I LIAISON Spoke with Mrs. Amidon,
on the staff o Representative E. De La Garza (D. , Texas), in connection
with the Congressman's request about whether
had ever be urupioyeci y Me :.gency.
After consulting with Office. of Personnel
OGC, and I advised her, for the Congressrriarz s infor.r:na.f:ion
only, that had been employed by the Agency and retired in 1964.
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Mrs. Amidon said she would inform the Congressman.
staff of the join
.t Economic Committee, and requested a copy of Senator
William W. Proxmire's (D. , Wis.) press release of 26 October 1975
relating to Soviet defense expenditures and several copies of the committee
publication in which the Director's testimony of 18 June 1975 appeared.
Kaufman said he would be glad to provide these and a courier was dis--
patched to pick them up.
7. CONSTITUENT Received a call from.
Senator John Iunney s (D. , Calif. ) office on behalf of a constituent
who was interested in her husband's OSS file. I provided her with the
Strategic Services Unit address.
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office of Senator Floyd K. Haskell (D. , Colo. ), in response to his call
and informed him that the Freedom of Information request of
was still in process and that a letter was being sent to him requesting
additional information.
. 9. HEAR RINGS Received a call from Walt
Sheridan, on the staff of the Subcommittee on Administrative Practice and
Procedure, Senate Judiciary Committee, who advised that Senator Edward M.
Kennedy (D. , ass. had spoke n to the DCI on the phone advising the DCI
that the Senator would be sending a letter to the Agency with regard to their
need for additional info:rnzation froni us. Also that a telegram would be sent:
to the Agency announcing hearings on the 7th of November.
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