JOURNAL - OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

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• Publication Date: November 6, 1975
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Thursday - 6 November 1975
12. I I BRIEFINGS Accompanied the Director and
Messrs. Nelson and Parmenter to a briefing of the full-
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iH-won the subject of Africa. See Memo for Record.
13. LIAISON Charles Lombard, Senate
Aeronautics and Space Sciences Committee staff, called with three items
on his mind. He wanted to know if we had seen Senator Barry Goldwater's
remarks on the floor of the Senate about the Director's dismissal and the
need for continued Select Committee investigations. I told him we had
indeed seen them and forwarded them to the Director. Secondly, Lombard
asked if we were aware of any newspaper clippings which would support
the argument that the proceedings; of the Select Committees were damaging
the Agency's operations abroad. I suggested he raise this with
Review Staff. Thirdly, Lombard said
is interested in a position with the Agency
when the current investigations are completed and asked if I could check
on the possibilities for him. I suggested to Lombard that he send me a
resume or hich he said he would do.
25X1 14. ADMINISTRATIVE Called Mr. James
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certain changes in our prepared statement before the Senate Judiciary
Subcommittee al Administrative Practice and Procedure tomorrow. I
told Stimpson that the statement was completed and ready to go to the
Subcommittee and I felt we had adequately covered the points which he raised
in slightly different words. After going over these items individually,
Stimpson agreed but made it clear that we should not take a position with
the Subcommittee . which would be construed as support: for Chairman Edward M.
Kennedy's (D. , Mass.) bill, S. 2515.
15. I I LIAISON Called Guy McCon)nell, Senate
Appropriations Con- mittee staff, to advise him the Senate Subcommittees of
Health and Administrative Practice and Procedure -staffers were pressing us
very hard to declassify several documents including IG reports which we felt
we could not make public. I told MCConn,:ll I would. appreciate it if he would
inform Chairman McClellan of this develcpment in the event he .fell:
it appropriate to take the matter up with S :nat:or Edwa.rd.Kennedy (D. , Mass, ) at
tomorrow's hearing. McConnell said he Would talk with the Senator about
it.
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Foreign Re a ions Commit e, called concerning reports in the press that
Colby was staying on for a while. He said if that was the case he
assumed Mr. Colby could appear before the Committee tomorrow as
previously scheduled. I told him the Director was at the White House at
the moment meeting with the President and I would find out as soon as he
returns whether or not he is staying and if he can make the briefing. I told
Holt I would call him back as soon as I find out.
Later in the day, I called Holt and told him the Director would. be
staying with the Agency until Ambassador Bush's confirmation and he would
be available for the briefing at 10:00 a. m. tomorrow. Bolt said. he understood
the problems we have and would look forward to seeing us tomorrow.
--Avcu a t.:ali iroin
Larry Pezzu o, Congressional Relations, State Department, who wanted to
know if the Director was going to appear before the Senate Foreign Relations
2 2 itt~ tomorrow on Africa. I told him I didn't know at the moment;
that I was waiting for the Director to return from the White House.. I said
I would get back in touch with him.
Later, I informed Pezzullo that the Director would appear tomorrow.
7. I LIAISON Called William Coates, in the
office of SUna or Strom Thurmond (R. , S. C. ), and advised him of our contacts
,,with the Kennedy Subcommittee on Administrative Practice and Procedure of
Senate Judiciary Committee, concerning the drug experimentation program,
and the hearing coming up on Friday. He said he hoped to be there. I asked
if Senator Thurmond would attend and Coates said he would do his best to get
him there.
8. I Chuck Snodgrass, House Appropriations
Committee staff, called and asked if there was any chance of his reading
some of the "proposals" that are "kicking around. " (Obviously referring
to the "Taylor Report'.). He said he would make no reference to the document
in any discussions, but would like to have it for his background information.
I asked Snodgrass to pass a message to Ralph Preston, Staff Assistant
of the Committee, that after talking with the President today, Mr. Colby was
asked to stay until Ambassador Bush is confirmed and Mr. Colby agreed to do so.
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Armed Services Committee), Guy McConnell (staff of Senate Appropriations
Committee) and Clark McFadden (General Counsel, Senates Armed Services
Committee), and advised them that the President asked Mr. Colby tq.stay on
until A4*8"&Ca2s6a ~Ol?>:81-F~P77~1Qjg9~`~P-~o SO.
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OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Tuesday - 4 November 1975
1. I I LIAISON Received a call from
Dick White, Adrninistrative Assistant to Representative Dale Milford
(D., Texas), who said that the best possible time for the Representative
to meet with General Vernon A. Walters (DDCI) wol'ld beat breakfast
on the morning of 6 November. Transportation will be arranged for the
Representative to be picked up at the Southeast entrance to the Cannon
Building, 1st and C Streets, S. E. , at 0730 hours. General Walters'
office has been advised. George, Cary and Chief, Review
Staff, will also attend.
Services Committee, called and said that Ed Braswell., Chief Counsel
and Staff Director, of the above Committee, would like us to make
available for Don Lynch, staff member, of the above Committee, our
World Wrapup Presentation for fiscal year 1976. He said they had tran-
scripts for the 1974 and 1975 briefings but there was no transcript for
1976. Ticer thought we might have a memorandum or other background
material that could be useful to Lynch. I told him I would check and be
back in touch with him.
Senate Forei n Relations Committee to tell hint that in view of the announce-
ment of the Directors ismissal, it was quite possible that Mr. Colby would
not be available for the Committee briefing scheduled for this Thursday on
.Africa. Holt indicated that they did not necessarily need the Director under
the circumstances and they would be willing to accept: some other qualified
witness. I told Holt I would check on this and get back in touch with hitn.
Later in the day, after checking with the Director and Mr. Nelson, DDO, I
advised Holt that the Director would not be available for the- 'Thursday session,
that General Walters, DDCI, would be out of the city and that the best
substitute witness, Bill Nelson, is tied up in hearings with the House and
Senate Select Committees for the balance of the week. I asked Holt for the,
Committee's indulgence ii rescheduling our hearing at a later date at which
time Mr. Pelson would he glad to appear. Holt said he thought: he would have
to go ahead with the session of Joseph Sisco, Department: of,;State, this week
and since Nelson would no-. be available next: week, they would have to wait
until after the Thanl:sgivin.frrecess .for Nelson's briefing. ng. (Nelson and
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Minority Counsel to the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Courts, Civil
Liberties, and the Administration of Justice. I. asked if what appeared in
the Congressional Record was accurate, namely that the Committee was
going to hold mark-up on H. R. 214, electronic surveillance. IIe said it was
not true that mark-up sessions were planned in the near future, and he would
keep me advised.
18? I I LIAISON Kathy Seddon, of i.- Representative '
Bob Eckharclt's . ,'texas office, called to ask if I had been successful in
finding a copy of Where's What. I told her that we only had one extra copy 25X1
and that we were going to put it in the Library of Congress.
We talked about the dismissal of Mr. Colby, Which the Senator
deplored. He said the Director had clone a fine job and was "an innocent
victim. "
20. LIAISON Bill Ashworth Senate Tore; ter,
Relations C and said they had never received answers
to the questions raised during the 29 July 1975 briefing by Mr. Duckett of
the Arms Control, International Organizations and Security Agreements
Subcommittee. He said they had received answers to the questions submitted
after the briefing but in the transcript there were a number of questions which
remain unanswered. I apologized and said we would check into this right
away. He said it was his error also and said, there was no great rush.
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Scott Cohen, in the office of Senator
i called and asked that he be piit on d:istribut:ion
I I told him we would take care of it.
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Friday 31 October 1975
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5. 1 1 LIAISON Guy McConnell,
Senate Appropriations Coirirnittee staff, called in connection with the
stories in the paper today that the 40 Committee had had no meetings
during the period 1972 through 1974 and said he had been i.n.structed. to
find out the facts. I said that I believe that the lack of meetings is
essentially correct but that the real point is whether the actions were
coordinated, and they were, through papers, phone calls, and supporting
staff procedures. McConnell said that they would .like to have a letter
from the Director on this. Mr. Cary will follow-up.
6.1 I LEGISLATION Sheridan B rinley,
AID, called acknowledging receipt of the points paper we had sent to
him last night for use in the Senate Forei n R i .s Cai-nn)ittf~
backup book in connection witMcGovern amend:rnent, #959 to
1-I. R. 9005. He indicated he would use a great majority of it except
for the separation of powers argument. I said I could appreciate the
political expediency in doing this but as a matter of principle it is the
soundest and strongest argument .
25X1 7. I ILIAISON Tiny Ingram, Staff
Director, Subcommittee on Government Information fz Individual Rights,
House Government Operations Corrrmittee, called -prior to our. sessi.q~rl
scheduled for 1:30 p.m. today to ask if we would be bringing with us
STATINTL the reports prepared by I las a result of his periodic
review of the Warren Co a rial in the possession of the Archives.
STATINTL After checking with I C/Services Staff, I informed Ingrain
that there were no reports but rather letters to the Archivist and we had
authorized the Archivist to send two of those letters to the, Subcommittee.
Later, in the company of I I met with Ingram, Bill STATINTL
Florence, of the Subcommittees , ovan Gay, of the Library
of Congress,to discuss the guidelines used by the Agency in connection with
the declassification of information, particularly they Warren Coniinission.
information. The session went very well and Engrain said he would send
us a letter covering the follow-ups from the session. Mr. la l.oreince
seemed to be primarily interested in the mechanism and laws relating to
the Freedom of Information Act. Mr. Donovan, who apparently has
reviewed much of the Warren Commission holdings in the Archives, was
basically interested in whether we would use the national security "excuse"
for non--d.~classification. Mr. Ingrain seemed. to be interested in assuring
that the n- aterial we were reviewing for declassification included material
which may have developed subsequent to the Warren CoiTiniissi.on investi--
gation and especially any material provided the Roclccfellc:r Corns-rissioil.
Ingrain maintains that there were four not three periodic reviews and reports
STATINTL to the .Archives. will check to sec if there was a letter to
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8. I I LIAISON Spoke several times during the
day with Frank Slatinshek and Bill Hogan, Chief Counsel. and Counsel,
I-louse Armed Services Committee, and then later in the afternoon while
on the Hill, Ilogan advised that Chairman Lucien Nedzi (D., Mich.) had
agreed 99 percent with the proposed sale of the residual assets of
Air America but was reserving the one percent until he had in hand
GAO's written report. Chairman Nedzi gave us the go ahead to explain
the matter to Chairman Jack Brooks, I-louse Government Operations
Committee. An appointment was set for 2:30 p.m. on Monday, 3
November with the Chairman.
LEGISLATION Called Pat Holt,
Chief of Staff Senate , orei lati o-~ =n. ittee, r-,egarding the
McGovern amendment, # 959 to I-I. R. 9005, and said that it would
appear to be in the best interest of the United States as a whole that
the McGovern amendment not bye pushed and he agreed that it would
not hurt to see Senator McGovern on this either directly or raise this
point with him indirectly with another Senator. Although there is
nothing to stop a member of Congress from introducing such proposals,
I argued the fact that these things are reported to six committees of
Congress and assures a fairly broad cross section and that every effort
should be made to channel reactions privately back to the Executive Branch
rather than publicly in amendments such as this.
10. I I LIAISON Spoke with Benson
Buffham, DD NSA, and provided some suggestions with respect to
dealing with a particular Subcommittee.
11. IAISON Alan Romberg, in the
office of Representative David Obey (D., Wis.), called concerning the
request for the Middle East briefing for Representative Obey and several
other Congressmen and asked that there be included in it some assessment
of the Israeli political situation and the dynamics of the pressure on it
as a result of congressional action on the Foreign Assistance bill., e.g.,
if the total amount recommended by the Administration was not approved,
etc.
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