DIARY NOTES

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• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP76-00183R000500030021-5
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• Document Creation Date: November 17, 2016
• Document Release Date: August 3, 2000
• Sequence Number: 21
• Publication Date: October 19, 1964
• Content Type: NOTES

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1. John Tietjen was in to discuss a number of items with me.
a. He has finalized arrangements with the DD/P to make
available to assume his new duties in charge of all field activities. In
addition, will continue to be responsible for the overt medical
activities of particular interest to the DD/P.
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b. Drs. Tietjen and ill leave on a rather extensive field 25X1 A9a
trip on 30 October and wil ran on 25 November. Dr. Tietjen spoke
to me about traveling at least part of the way first-class since they will
have a rather strenuous schedule. I said that I was reluctant to see DD/S
people travel first-class unless there were good reasons to justify it. We
discussed the trip, and I think that there are some portions of it which
would justify first-class travel. Most of the travel, however, should be
less than first-class, and Dr. Tietjen agreed to this.
c. John was prepared to go ~ to challenge the closing down 25X1 A6a
of the hospital. I told him that I thought it would be proper for him to go 25X1 A6a
to look into the question of how adequate medical services can
be provided but that I thought he would be fighting a losing battle in trying
to maintain the hospital. A central hospital servicing people under
several different covers would be inconsistent with the long-range reor-
ganization and cover plan for the station. I particularly asked that he
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ing on his trip.
d. I talked to John again about his survey of psychological services
requirements. It has been almost two years now since the Assessment
and Evaluation Staff was transferred to the Medical Staff, and we have
not yet come to grips with this problem. John was quite defensive about
the whole thing. However, I pushed him quite hard and told him that I
wanted a report, if only a status report, by 15 January 1965.
a. He discussed the new program for Support JOT's which will begin
on or about 1 January 1965. I approved of his 13 October paper with the
understanding that we would work out the details and improve the course
as we go along.
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b. Matt said that he had received a report on
our 16 October meeting concerning the central handling of JOT's coming
into the Support components and that he felt that my principle was 100
percent correct.
c. Matt again raised his manpower problems and invited my atten-
tion to his 14 September paper, which I think I have not seen. However,
I told him that I have little hope of getting any more ceiling positions for
the Office of Training unless we can arrange with Government Services,
Inc . , to take over some of the service work a nd can develop
a project for the contract linguists in the Office of Training. I urged Matt
to move promptly on both these possibilities since I think that this would
be the quickest way, and possibly the only way, to get relief.
d. Matt asked me to give some consideration to the assignment of
when he returns in about a year. I told him that
I would speak to Jack Farman about the possibility of taking Chuck on his
staff, as well as consider him when we juggle the Admin careerists be-
tween now and that time. (I talked to Jack about Chuck, and he said that
he would be very glad to consider him but that it will be quite some time
before a decision can be made.)
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3. 1 asked Mr. Kirkpatrick again for guidance regarding whether we
should accept the invitation of the New York Chapter of the Military Intelli-
gence Reserve Society to address their group on either 20 January or 24
March 1965. He said that he would speak to the Director about this and
would give me some guidance within twenty-four hours.
4. I met with Bob Fuchs and Alan Warfield to discuss the propriety of
Bob's setting up a covert accounting office. I approved in principle with the
understanding that this office would be an extension of the Office of Finance
to provide covert accounting service to projects for which such service cannot
be provided overtly. We had quite a long discussion, and I think that Bob
would really like to have all Finance people, no matter where they might be
located, responsible to him as Director of Finance rather than to their Office
Heads or project managers. I do not agree with this concept, and I think that
at the conclusion of our meeting Bob understood this and that we had a meet-
ing of the minds as to how his covert accounting office would function.
5. Dr. Gaskill of the Financial General Corporation telephoned to inquire
whether we would be interested in setting up a bank in our CIA Headquarters
building. I gave him the usual story and told him that, if he cared to join the
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list of banks interested in providing service for us here, he could address a
letter to me and that I would ensure that his interest was made a matter of
record should we change our policy at some future date.
6. Deputy Chief of Station, ~ was in for 25X1A6a
a short visit. There are no unusual problems at the station which I need
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2 and quite correctly anticipate the tremendous logistical problems which
would be involved should we actually go forward with this project. I suggested
that we might have an installation which would not involve dependents and per-
haps pay a very attractive fee to induce people to leave their families and go
up there for six months at a time. I suggested that we might double their
salaries. I think that some such gesture could probably entice people to leave
their families and that perhaps this might deserve more serious consideration.
George believed that the support business at- is working satisfactorily. 25X 1 A6a
However, I think that, if I could read between the lines, he does feel that both
he and re spending a considerable amount of time on the types
of things which I, at least, would expect a Chief of Support to do for me.
7 asmuch as the ns ector General is about to begin a survey of the
I asked Jack to give particular consideration to
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T/O. I am not sure what this relationship should e, - u a u e momen e
Office of Finance has no direct responsibility for ensuring that this accounting
service is correct and in the Agency's best interest. Of course, this principle
would come into question in many other proprietary projects. Jack has been
giving some thought to this, will see that his team consults with Bob Fuchs, and
will examine the question in the course of the survey.
8. I discussed the following items with John Tietjen:
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and that Frank looked very good. Frank said that the six months' period
which Dr. Tietjen and I had said would be reasonable for consideration of
his return to duty would be over on 16 January 1965. Frank was optimis-
tic about coming back to the Agency, and Dr. Tietjen thought that this
might well be possible. (I hope it is.)
b. I guess my whole session with John was a little bit less pleasant
than usual, specifically because I said that he was fighting a losing battle
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in trying to preserve the -hospital, I held him down on traveling
first-class, and I pushed him pretty hard for the umpteenth time on the
psychological services survey. This led into a philosophical discussion
about his personal position in the Agency. John and I have had many of
these through the years, and nothing very much has come of them. He
is striving, whether he realizes it or not, for greater personal recogni-
tion. He regards himself as confined to clinical duties, which he enjoys
very much. At the same time, however, people like and
in DD/S&T are running big programs and sometimes call
the tune to which John has to dance. I don't know the answer to this nor
does he- -whether it would satisfy his personal desires to become a
member of the Research and Development Board. There is no question
that, if it were possible to give him some additional personal recogni-
tion and responsibilities which would transcend the exclusive competence
and responsibilities of the Medical Staff itself, it would be helpful insofar
as his personal job satisfaction is concerned. I told John that I wasn't
very much impressed by organization charts, etc . , and that I felt the
Medical Staff itself shouldn't really have any broader responsibilities.
I said that, if he could think of some way in which he could have broader
responsibility, I would certainly be willing to consider any such sugges-
tion most seriously and that I felt other senior people in the Agency would
do the same. In this connection, I told John that I thought he should give
some consideration to a long sabbatical for Agency- sponsored external
training of some kind. I have urged him to do this before on several
occasions, but he has never done so.. I urged him again to get his of-
fice so organized and staffed so that he could take off for some extended
period of time for some external training. It is hard to say specifically
what kind of training he should have or just what he would get out of it,
but I think that he would be a bigger man when he got back. He said that
he would like to give some more thought to this suggestion and to dis-
cuss the matter with me further. I said that I would welcome this at
any time.
9. I talked to Mr. Kirkpatrick again about the case. He had
not discussed it with General Carter and asked me to go ahead with the action
which I had decided upon earlier; i.e., to find another place for -
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