TEXT OF JIM GARRISON INTERVIEW

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• Original Classification: K
• Document Page Count: 3
• Document Creation Date: November 17, 2016
• Document Release Date: July 17, 2000
• Sequence Number: 5
• Publication Date: May 22, 1967
• Content Type: NSPR

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inicrvies,v ei. Now 0,'-icans,s Dist. LA%-cacy ',a :aro-oz.:1 clevic?i"..s v,:....i.;,?,;':, :or ,n?tile. The point is he? nol that's real',' Wnnt? 1.,e was. One i,?2 I
. Atty. ,-lin*, Cizii?i-????ri .conecrnin,4; anci. tre..,t.i,diarto:: -.i:e,...; c?,,tite was not a Co,---anist, :-.,a?C:10 MG.St. ill'.1',Ort.7.'.1t. 1110:1 Ir.;
T.L.:,-.?.:1.:CC:!,' LS:...:.Lirial'..7,:', 001;-' 1.11Z-..-2.,,y pavir,;.; lawyers_ ?to ?..- ?...t. ,,eds ;????, rziti.coir,miinist 'F F is z...n. ov,...,:sia;?,.?,rnont, :?,r,,,,
' siiirae;?' pbe to newsi-nan ,3,?,;-?,' the sc'arri,nc';.i.3a oE .the..int?i? -:I.,i,??? t?.?;????'.....-., for the CIA, Once ::,-,is sr,rnetirries in the rush of thintis it; .
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? sonimnrizo ?,.;:? ir....,:stigz?i;:n, ?..,.,,I '? act. And. if. tn.:: !.;.........;....,...,;? tvc?;?, .P.r?tacien-c. t.ci iS :: S-Drno::ning -Lis cild in this ease;
I of the CIA and; the te.1) 0:;:r.ici.;;.:".cL.,;:;?? c????s.;;;;ii?y? of the cold Nvf.-:. And, as theY Put t:lat arid I Put in,Y nanle;
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Ieint,eci-use,..te! .I.i..he Ci.',. c.annot be I,j,,ii-ed and .' describe it.
tors ,,,.,-;,,f,d ::;.i-, -?,;','? ?;....,,iiov3. ,:t' ,,,...,.?4 has 10 1,,,,-,0\y s,\.,,at -2,o,s doing, '1.-'2ici; as-? a .resuit there's been no ? lisis role is twofold and I don't:
,,..ot L,.....,_,?., ,r,a.,,,i-r .,?,..; f:'?,c,i ,?,.??:.?, 11 Cent'ral intelligence. Agency i..,e-!:, penci:ratior. of its secret. Its "want to ,igo? into more cieiad .
! -iir,,,,-;,,,it? rnd ?f?:;,,,,, -,,i.,i,skle,.,,i., ? gan its cr17--ial a.cti\iitiesik ?,..,,.:.?1: pov,:er has just continued un-; because it goes into e.vicience
.? x ....,..,......,, ,,......, ....:,:,,z,. ,2.1.,c:, .,,,,?..oio,,..?,,;VuGgiyient,..trarnefdatety id..-ie,-..:.c. ,..01: touched, when actually its power " :hat begins to lie in \\-:,[11 the case '
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..ey,fai....0J ? as a resifits-af-thif dO7sir?:?:07.,SII'ai'..oil here. 1r, othi.sr words 1 1001 I:1;e 1
! reveal. to ,the -4 L?dcraliSureau. 07i ? of. .i,-,in in:aria ???;-"bsos":7,7-sin:e 1.77-...- I. can tr.:10 in some ,-'encri-dilies
C . tne Lcieral government, really; ilvostigatIon in its er.iircity w..-.r.,-,; .t,,,oi,? -,7.7-7,-.-..-4,--,-,--?,_;_?.____ts, ? .., .. ,, . ..,,.., , , . ?. -.,..., .,, ?L ,
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C ..,..:,,y .,?,.,,..; c-IA.\,,.; ..i.,3oci rl.eans when Lee 0.s.,vald was i' ;',.???:,;=.,-?-???-=?-sIsi-idld ..0e ca: do?A?r. " ,,s1)0,2,,s taaL do Cl.n touch .:\ :sr. ?
rier, 0 01;?'.' V .:1,' n? -,,, ,. ---ss.- -?.... -. naw s case.. 1.itit I air, not going:
oricing for it and it it aS :i ;."-;.,",.."4... i ,.,.?-.....?....?,.. -,....,,,.......,?pu? :. ,,.: ;?: ,..: ., ;;;;; . .: ,..
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, tit'.???.is:Ai.icition nns hcien known tOI, 'sTo,,L.,',:i'a11"3'; o`r`Lintila`i a'os:,,vi,ies ,,.:,"y:i. !have. ..le,..?,??:-,,.'d ii?i-..),--ri; ti,ns? c. Sc. ."[."iell ;-\,r. ?Saav:',0': hIs ',nal. W111,211
my office for sii,tte Cir.:3. That's:
rna'.cing every !possible effort toI !'-? ''''L aw.al..?. .01 It .?:-?1?':0. tae 1-s Pc' NvUu re.:-'3.:.`' `.? l'arr?ia;
? v.ny ciiiiie a wai.e. :..,?????,0 1 ..,..aS L.t).:0 i'::,?'??,',01.1.,, .incii.e pow.o...i. +S..0l.leM?131. .?'.ut 1; errie's role In
i o z.,.,.,,. 1,1i-4,,-., a,?.., ?r t,??., .,, w......5, block our investi,,,i-ation. iNaY.- its! ,L, ? C, 'CO and -'-- N'i.VD l'f'C' S".."". -: ?L ?:; w as ni
; ;?,,ii iiicin,,, ;,,11.-....?....?;., i i,....,:orstr....?? not a ease which I :-X.V.,... LC,: ........?,,........., _._.. ' -?-?'.. - ,
' ::COnnCet:0;1 V.'ih, \yell, he was an
,;?,.''' ,i-.? ,.., '.??-?. ? ....... ...'.....I defer.d against, let's say against; i9.,,..????ss:,-, c,,aloined...
. .,. .. L.., ....,,,e.n,:,_,...r.i.; ..,:isi. r ,..,,,s ?,,,? ..?,v, ?0 .1.,?.f.?.,...i ? Q. P,id Lee Ilarvey Osv,said Jcil:Il'ir.errnecliiti,?y. Ile \v as not a CIA .
.i.:?? cis a . iiitit purely!. '-",?":-.--,-0. `.".',.-s"--2,\,',., 'A cc F. .T.31.,,,,tiri?en,t Iiennedv9 ?;4geili. fo,i?? example. II?e. did notI
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....orcarry a si.% C'-i''C' Ct 'Fl 'CS '' yol.'
....?. ,.....,r,-1?-?-,..-. ?-, ' .?'. . ' ' It's Newsweek or AVDST., or .N...',C.! i .;'.... Ns, Lee -Harvey OsWald GI: ' ? " '' - ''' u '
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.,,,,,?.,1.,-,H...s 4,,i1 ..,:-... ....,h.., .?,..., ??;?.? organization against . c??itesitoits,, ?I,S17-enneciy....1s-le dici? not 'fire -. shot , 's..'` ''''''." 1.-r ?''':",.: ?''''," '''?-si,'''''
.... ?? -??????y, vo -1,e?-; ....o boo), ,. , :, ,. ? ., ? ;:i?eceive. a very ,s,olisncid 110 ir,,r"
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. (,:::c..., ,,.),: ,:,:.: .,..?.., cie.?:.,,....., the . eve ,n located, .rina'.05:ra.DaS :,n; ,Th.:`-';-....;ir nere's no question about "as".1"g`6:1' ".":"''''' IheY rirP ?
. lir..c,...?:?.a.nc..: ..,,. .?...,::-sic:ont wiljoh? wii:; bave iounc,,_ tne men': That anymore at. all. One of the, ; '''u---..'.C.."1 "(1; f'de''" :?11' , ?
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? :,....e,,..,';2'..... l'1,...?--:(,,,..?oc, ,,,,,i4h h? : behind - the g?rassy...-ci-,o11. and .that cc,ncept is just abont rir,so: ? 'i?c,Y i..: W3u-" saY :I've .t.2?._,I?e?t
o?,.,e.?, c.2 ,.,.,,,,. ...?., a ..,,,..sult of ..stonev,?all; before.; they ..c.lrol?pocli .nov,? in the positicin ols :...-an-,-..):?? --''.1.(2`1?"; 0u?-? ;1..'i'''se-x,sla;s1;st''';\,.'?\;'.:
til!s .....,,?o...-; .,.:,..,....:n i?-?????.,\,;.,:inais ,- .eorrri,letely .out 0.f......sght...)?i.er,a, Dumpty. It can. never be really ???anc-,..w? `i? nat 'Inc:- '''''a'-?`,.1...'s r\sc`,."
wiri.,---a-???:, - ? ..--???,-n. -,,..?:2it.?,...ts-in : \',-a're'tive ...i.,, 'isieril.--'1'ilree Licantd! e, ,,,d One of the a:,:ortt.,- ?''''.?"?(` '''cu' us a` unYl'u"a ?N'''
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:Tic, is t., .:.; ,:::y 2.::::,..,;,.ydent ? not. ciu.te otit ot &gat., u ,...,..*\vo-fx, so rill .the. CIA is that the
which ;s :
still in a position of :"I's-- it"e.?'
to docond ihaz. ,..ia,,? end justifies the means,
? ,...-?lii:; b.., -......7- .....-.1,,?Lin?os, ,,,,.., the ? i0CL ti? d ii 4T by process ozi.hoN?ing
:-?,....,,,-;,..,;;.......?:,..?, 1.:?"; contra.), bringing then., out. Although they'?those ?,,.,?no don,., ?.aot. to b'olievereason it should be eliminat- '
.,..,.....,,...; ......,,..?..,,:.,?,... .,.0.? 1..,oep ? are not custinct enoi.i.?,i1 .you C.., 'F :that Lilo ?,,,,h01,0 tnith was n,;',-, .?1.11.,d1r4(),..r.g,:ln,..Liz,c.:?,(1 -1...)renea,..ii\tseinyotnt ?
o.s i....,,..?.. ..,.,e .,:,4?:1?,,?,..i.oan , .nalce. an :dony.fieation :Tom tnit.'; brought out, Pita he diCi B0t. tOlZell , '.. ,,f;" . fi"Vei ip".??"jro'27,:iiy"?."10.'orilo,,,-,0-,
, ri.,..,....-. ' ....i.i ,,..13:-,..,- , - c cm. ,, faces..a'ne point. is the \,}7,,,:ren?a gun on that ds.777.77,-.77"it-as a (-?r-t-cracY w'l--
?,, ,i, fro,,....,-, _. ...?,.,,,:i ,...,..Tc,t,go...i Commission said nobody \vas, 6o-c,o3,=1.7d--7,,T.7-6.--,i7as ,?,,. ?;;-,z,.. the end justifies the means.
. ? .;\.:.;-d--;,.:-7,- ,-,L. . .:-.?,..,....?1--L.-i,.,,g it!. hack_ there apd they had to say? :pa-,-,.;-,,,m-Acrt:,,i-o-r?--2-v-z;,-,-.-a-ii?. V,'Ins is never the ease. Ferric: '
as to final C.,;_,:.L. whIcii .,...,.. are!, noboLlytv,as. si.ael, there because : Qi--.At---this-,150,,iTt-,--7.7.17-7.,u-??ay if - v:ivi;ccl for the CIA in Florida in i
a,...., not enough ?evidenee was pr?esent-'Phis appear s ;o be, as ?far 1
Lee Ilsarvoy Oswald did not kill .:14"1.
.. ?.r.w.,.1;1 a ...::::.:,...; ?,;)nce. Cn the ad f?1: thstri? to make an3r othcr lhe Prctsident, Who did? . as ?k?k.. Lai, iii CC ;us in..ia, I
, ' ?,'--? 6 q';1-1 no, so n"--c=1. ? , . , . connect; or lie was malcing II
? oihcr nal:0, 1-,, 1;,..?.-t ths.t fatal a ?..arincj""'"1,,","'?' r " - ' ? -,... Oh, I ear. say \I T.? did ?:-? , " - ,
,,,,,..,,,,er,.1 fo?., .4?,,?? beez,,,,,,s, the: - the bure.o., b -part as tho,- Central ; ,;,,,,?, ?
II ...z.o.?. Sily- quesuon, excep.... and; ..,?,,..,-.?1.s .10,r tnem.
. cseinic,1 clern,,,..-... ? we have elari-i Inteittgellec Aq?ancY? . - ?; !we IcTIOW t'r,e group and we.. know . i,?nen 1.)3 Came and they had a!i
itcc-, a .,ii,i; .?-?`-? ?-t.'? ' , Harvey Oswald 's. be in this i .Eut w
- ' , - -- -? ?,???? - ?-,,,- sr don't i Q* I\11.' Garrison' what waa s'-a?c' ' -some of the r,ant es of ?;lii-icieghroounpc,. ???i,;?',2,e,cipl:lcils,olas,Ticolo'e1ul.h.a,-,P.,.,11.1,1dny'2i inordict,.....a I,
IF an f-,tisIi del;....,,,, ?bs,
.:ellava l's.11 ?-s's.' t'DP "s* TaeYi,..whole thing? -e- don't know
,.1 - 7 ^, rza-ve Osw,,Id was no,4!,/,r'v as sta,ncli.r. ?w,ltere,ar,,d we ean:t r;.os'i\''.cssa' Sub. ail; hae
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' but'a'?:'" ''':s ' ''' ''' ' '' ' '.. '' ': a il 1 1..(2 F.:....'''.11):.'"16...2. \ '-'1111..'" C';'they are still in America, and \veld-n-1 : ?
' - "?'?' '. . ? - . .,..,,,,, lit. ,,tose-atccu "s ?A ''-t.' --. ', ?have a stoae wall there z?is ..': as ,--,..;1,,,,, ?`,,'),,,,w1h\L,Ioli,:'(1,1a1L'-'tehaoc?.(1
tlgc''''."'s???-? ""''' cx.'.'',.''`",`..s-I faiscr,-;Led-Oswalrs ass?ciettlima the icientificatici of tile other ;; "..' ' ,-..ori-ii to.?ros l'ilai ;
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blocking completely the inctulry','..'HI-'l'? :-..-1.'.. ''' \v?u1("1 Ic:1`.'
Into, attempting to block cue..:2_,'?,,,`',-.,. , that that StE.:E.???
.cie .I.onisito .. incluiry into. the death of Pres.- '`.,".1!?-ae now?
r.,..,?,..,,T, te :dent Kennedy. ? ,? ,1-.?z>. only :"..' ,
t ,?.' all is, solved,
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con;:c..L..:?,:,_,.,., \\*?.::,, ..:-ou:?. ..'.gGE1 : WG2t tO CEEll'inasize ' .,
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t. tt.t nil .c.,.s.... . 1 -- conv):jcz,-?,Lcd. me quesIton -.. wc,n1 into the elevator, they said:. n .;-.:2'1. 'ottlilfli.t chicipkinot3t[clGC:'?7I'L,E'l
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\v....a 1-,i..,?sentcd as a gloat. ..-..s
'r:attys, these th,.e.e..There is ? no mystery. It ?,....,...,.,a,',.
- you're .:.3., . 'getting ct nar.les, the ...nu, ?'w?hon's your ne:..c. arrest." And 1- SO:IlODOGy or '611 e,L.L21, Lo. S"?.J:.
. ;lames of sc,,,,t.?.3 of these people, a sald, "Arresis, li. roay be a :011g- 1.:1O1I-. irt Cl J, tO i.G.1 1 a 1:0, ...':>
tl ...; at, ing
ir......c .". . cietalls to wrap it up. And w..,, Lime, ; :-..rc:IY &OSP ..,..1,3. AL ,206:.S, ,..1,,,
_ Cnu,...E., Is ? are oeing blocked completely by I 12):1't. want . to talk nbout,lEIEL law;.,,or ..;.nows . there is
...1?.....?..?,,,L,,,,,?,,,L,..:.,,,i .,te al..,.., while we 'nave a ? arrca.s. I. .fi.?st.?sald no comn-.ent. :IG::-.Ing WOESO la ? a ma.lor case
Nt.,...,..,,,?.......??v ?..,,,ble..,.. 0; et-,operation with -Sut there will be, a...i.csts. And .,-. thnn a wilness who is lYin.;::?
a1 2,getleies at thiF,, ',.said yes, taere ? wit. ,........ ....C41! .....,e is ,.... ,,,,, 0 ,....,-.,-). .0.
'... ..,,. ,-,,te?.time, it i.s apparar.t. t?.0 :Me tiu.n. ;you've 6G:',."1::El CE:C CEISL.? And ..i, ,-.,,asc.i. 1a,,,,?y0t, to tear apart.
\ ,,?:-,--,'---..'"- --.' is engineering. Z.:"..i.s..; Said \?.'Ci- . SOlved the case ,1rric.-4./...';:is is a comspirncy, I think
'hecatise, of the , because, its future, its prestige IS ' ..I roc, agG, IDaInLy ..nat we 'c. 0)9 lousiy c..;;;',..col co III.,,,,c C,A,
, it .s.pencs :,,,,,,,?' at stake, and above all, itsHstood. what happened and wh;-... to derail .us and this: win bc
sandna I \'1'0 Ca:: of the things I'nithe princnpu people were and it' exposed in time, there's no
inple, who has no. sure s \vo?:ried about is that:,,tu.rr,C,i OIL CO be confirmed' 0.) 11 about that. r'21.i?, problen-,
?.?,,,s,:,1.,,,;..,:l I. y i.; v er: y .. Congress may begin to get; :without any question, is ,.110 c,)ns')i.racy Ihey . are
who is th,, ' curious abour.; this rnor.strosilty,;,,,,.`,Vell, the next thing I knew, cr.gageci in, I', ut agz.in., I can.
? ? ,;,,,,y.tat, ?%,:-,..(,.c.,:i.o... Illi$ OZ.:ICer it has citeve"i4ediir, 1'.1.-Ire ?;.,-ere, pectographs of me,tsurn:narize it Cl sny:ng, . ot,
c, . this country and begin .to am:6-, selected from sorno other inci.' I.. SI.. 't. Wc'S trtie. :':1-. 110l a 1
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n3,? only ,??,,,-;'0 controls WiliCIEI ShOtl:ci have beer, H dent, . v,-ih a hig smile on my, perfcot person ',:iy any moans outl
st,.?-.:cc,ss;,,,t1 7,,n,,,,,,yer ? in 0:1.i0; applied a long time ago. .:; f ace, .announcing .. that we ll'a;'..-' 1:. don't happen to. oe a liar. 1
,,,,,..,,..t, &wt.; ;-,efe.l Q. ii'.. So of this. blookirig.' (II i. the case. Well, it ?o'asn't:111.t...,vhat. (Ioes all c?.T theis mean,
,,,lo.m r.., re,,)res0-,-,ttion, i CIA, will tals in any -way hmclerl ,remn:atng as ? to - the g.Ineral:z,nd
.;?01.1, tills lack of aooperationl
in certain instances ani
..\?,-eac?:,,,,.,; ,...,e,,,,-,s to :-?t,,?,,,,,,, no, effort whicn. you prescribe 'to the; in...a....i.i. .0 oe, a g.cat. Wnat I, to
e' ?t2.,,, :..,-e inttft,y,,,, tmoun,cat.c, ?ne or eliminate the possibility, of: ,:?now.-es and as to the kcY l.)eoP:e! actual hinc,rance, as you say, in!
ret;:es2nt:,,:. ?,?,,,,, th?, ehie: your solution of the assassina- involved. And, this remains 1,1.10,--'?y0ur investigation of the. nssassi-
ass.s,...n., 0: ..le c trict Lt,to.?ilo.v!ticirk? _ ., ... . ? On ..l-,e other hand,- I dui not!r,at,,on
:N ? i
A. O, i El on't think there IS :E:,..S.:::?-,?..-,-;.?::;.-Ca::?:?-?,,:.;-3,-...,-,,--,.-y,.-,-2.,-.,........L,...1, , , , , ,, many, \ ,..:`,', ? it getS;
0 C.C.,.::.:',:?:. :' anything to eliminate it. But. it .cirear.-: that there Woulci bc such! down to is this, we :lava drifi.:ecli
;will slow it up. If it were r10-.- -f0E-. ?`'C'' tr?1 6 1-3SLIT'Cti?11 IV 0101;10,11s 0(' n'oray fro n-: nur constitut'..on teo'i
,,,,.,,,c, 1,,z,?,, ...,;.?.,,... ,?, , rett::?.,.1.?(1 ns, tnis, if we .had..hzid- the-slightest . 1.,:0 federal government whereh:nr. The C1.-?,, for ex:am1.1,1,1
nc-,l:',; ?,..,i .., ;,-,,,,- us U \ ,. . .? ' C.00,').0.'.a i0 .-' 0' . Co -,"r6?,'' .'n1, Ve cold no coud" g-,' ? -v? -? -,'- - ...-....1.-'.--
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f ., ? .:.I. GI S:cat .valtt,,,,;:gence-Agency-therc ..WOuld- C0 0 0 O
be..
apmhing.-.,,else.....fo...investigcd.e. In i/gon.cy, taat we nave our lines:I fS'C.,i'lli ,2,overnment cio. A state i
?,....,,,.0711-6; wo..as ill., .1;-,t,-,e 1,-- mon:to:ea constant'y W&I, no. ,,--? 1 ' ? --1 To --v-,--Te-ce. a?lci
suc.....c.,?,s ? .
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' ? a ecorne that clear in a sons? of ? :tlusl? ,,.s. anY, sr111,.Major :v...iness,!Ille state is not El SOVOl'clgnty, it's,
? 'de'a"s rho"- w, -ng^-- -,- v-v' " ,-..--.;, ,-',, . t . . , j j:_tr,s..., .a p.rcblinto ,li,,e i',..t.:..d.rc..1s,
wo,1 being confirmed. It's just some. (...;ons'..an'',IY: .
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.t.y,..,t., 'at., hcihrnmportant details. P,ut we're ?not - lit doesn't bother us. But as E:.W1.01..{-,' and ',Ills c61:::.trY , \\'?11"Li.
?,,..., -1"-it?Jelli,..,!e,,,,-(?3?..4."?oing to stop until we get them result I ,'-'"'..: that in closin,' out survive in the vfl.-:y. W;:.,'Ve :L'IlOWEI
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LI:t: tO 0?,:l 0: r.C,Op:C: alid thOlite:#4:C"-711.111.:-Q-1?\.1!tS'
...ley know the narne ?.. Jevicu,,nce that. WO. want toke, us, change has to begin in this case.
we change it and the
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60:-......1g; to Ittom, .. ..., \ i,rnuc..: longer,. but We'rEl- EIGL SO:::::: \Mil OIL,. .LeGCIL-1. ....;.; :.,... h?ch
?????a you l:nvc.2. tho cfr.cet
*a,n,,..v..ay. But I'ci SON', that, wha,' -he assassination, w,, u,? Lt o ploy .
4,....--V. 0 ',...,., a,?-?,,ut.,-11 v ,;,.'.., ?-r ? , - ?-. el ' 0 the. Ind:v.:duals who sol:11.- , .?,, ,,,. -
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t ce l...-...e so '1 01 be tr,',.gers ironl 1,-,' g 0 o is now? '"..-'he Central es were involved in the assassi-
.o.:rassod. 9,1e have had no an-C?: ....i.;:g2r:,:i.l.i...._;:z.c-1_ Ana .tney. ?Agency, the Central IntC.ligence!nation anG h. ,,nows ,l,'.s ..-i...d ....lot
t. ,,,,L1-1 ,.....\??,-,14:.,-;,,, !,.., fivc 1;7.7T-11:at they did it IfeCu.Setrhey Agency of the Unitod States if it:in t h 0 Con .0 Intolligence
: rea,,s, .,'15it a 5ing:0. 0.;,;,;,..,di. were-forn:IScul,,-..C.MpolyeS.--G:- thO. wants coudd in the next (.,,0' AgencY?
one in ....ive yenrs. 1nd;C-17'...;??.\10,-.,..i.le...they....wer-e-traii..-ti.n.g i,? mit-lutes give us the n,,,,rae 0!:' In the :,.,,..,,i annlysls, \\???aa,,, it,
il.:?,;,-,',...:, oE cottrse, we have nothing New.-gr.i.eanS....in.....t.b.c.....surnme,r,,,o.,: i every last Cuban invoivat in this comes down to is whether ?
.' tr0......,?.,I,Le.ng,',.et.1.11velc:i'otv,s,,,,,tice,;:l-i,c,-...i:k...--_,---,v....._,--71,- ,,,I,..,,,,t,.....i,...:-.....--%--usso to:d! 1,1 EldcnsclerNi7tiocnaa ifIlel,,-,thy:cm.,r.:...\,,,le;.1-, ,t.!'oe.edetroatalllpye,\,\LI?iclic.ocrict:rnol:boed.altlico\\1,1.11 tios ?
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? let.
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o: cou..se, the reason is that:lc strange .and startling tale about ? .1problem of how to f,nd th 3 ' so then we arc no different than
.-,,e.',; back witnesses who".,\-.cilnedY. IS Perry ei-Cayrnond . ',1110':',,1--,,?etsileacnads.einwoCit?Oddr'b1e"uCtnslpilfel N,?\f-,(7.1iIGeet;:nri'ltz11111Yellec)N,r,CSt?1?1'.:11eittl'alall.lscsliaay..
..::'e committing tile c2fense 0C:the. conspiracy to kill President
!can ...,--,?., us in varyin,,,, ,:legrees,liusso your 'star witness in this ? ,.ly 60SOCI-. Alld tll:It's how close has con-ie. I cannot believe that,
nnd one ;...ia!,..0 a lot,,wnolc invesfagatiOn ? ,
- -. 1 WO O'CiVe boo tO Ille L:ncl cor; it is possiole :Or toe CI.'\ tol
c';uestio.: of the: A. Well, the ci.c.estion, of. 5'."' 1" but \'1G. are blOCkcd by ..conlintle to obstruct with power,'
presic,ent Nen:can't ansv.,er to much without at. totalitari-, As far as I'm. concerned they arei
t:?.16 11.,,,,... in the.course, is a iitt?e involved, But I' ithis :glass wall of this
an, powerful agency which is, \vasting their time with me. They
4e reason we're least inferentially reflecting cal. ,worriccl about its power. And it's can slow me clown but there's no;
.11-,ving ? '
i. tt.tore areMr. Shaw's rigc's to a fair tl?al . obviously worried about its pow,: way in the world they can stop;
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,g;c:17.-,7-o,?;-,-,7111- and I don't want to oven nalse or, because it's desperate. ? 'me from bringing our conclusion
?,-., C',,-..ntra: thepossibility of n c,acs.lon of - ?;:le,ri you try. to make it l to this 'ease. .'
,ncy.,....v.:-..-,...L.te-not having done so, but 1 v.-ill say
.....cut how ..rr.esi- that 1 do not regard 20rry 'Rosso
w'no dons our main witness. AnO
?"-N- IlOt W:,;z: . SOOO:Ll . G know:A:re that will be a defini..? 4....
disappointment to those ?g,..,ntle- A -
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