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SEATING assaying: range sites, the intermediate-range body and simply refer to him as a Mem-
But Senator IDEATING said Mr. McNamara sites, destroyed, dismantled, broken up, ber of the other body?
had failed to "dispute" any of-.his specific the concrete destroyed, presented by The SPEAKER. Under the rules, even
-claims that Soviet forces in Cuba have been photographic evidence, not only to Sen- a reference in praise of a Member of the
strengthened since October or that Russian ator KEATING but to the people of the other body is not consistent with the
i ned.iuni-range rnissile " sites in, Cuba have United States. And yet the charge has rules of the House. The Chair has not
not been frilly" destroyed: not yet been withdrawn and it stands ruled as yet that the gentleman has
Mr. Speaker, let us now take a look at here in the RECORD of the Congress on violated the rules. The Chair wants that
the specific charge that was made so the 31st of January of this year. clearly understood.
that we can know exactly what is being Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Mr. Speaker, a Mr. STRATTON. Mr. Speaker, it is
talked about here. When the President parliamentary inquiry. my wish to proceed in order and in ac-
of the United State directs the Secre- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does cordance with the rules. But it is my
tart of e se o reveal some of Our the gentleman from New York yield for recollection that-Members on the other
mom hly held and clos,.held Intel- a parliamentary inquiry? side of the aisle have been mentioning
l I enc nom, nationwide television s11ow, Mr. STRATTON. Mr. Speaker, it is names of Members of the other body
risk ng aan im a rmen of security about my understanding that it is not my most of the afternoon.
which any individual ' intelligence province to yield for a parliamentary in- The SPEAKER. That may be cor-
r
ed, just to quiry; that is an inquiry that has to be rect, but then no Member voiced a ques-
service must be deeply di
reassure the American people and to addressed to the Chair. tion of order. The Chair asked the
clear up some of the confusion and put The SPEAKER pro tempore. Does the gentleman who made the point of order
an end to efforts to frighten the Amer- gentleman yield for that purpose? if he insisted on it. There are degrees
loan people t iat'have been going on, I Mr. STRATTON. No; I do not yield. of statements that might not be con-
think it is important that we ought to Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Mr. Speaker, a sistent with the rule. Some might be in
know exactly what the charges are to point of order. violation.
which this massive effort, this unprece- The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Without objection, the gentleman from
dented effort to respond last night was gentleman will state the point of order. New York is recognized.
being directed. Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Is it permissible There was no objection.
Mr. 'Speaker, I quote from the CoN- under the rules of the House to use the Mr. Speaker, refer-
GRESSIONAL' RECORD o'f January 31, 163, name of a Member of the other body in ring the charge that appeared in the
where Senator KEATING is speaking be- criticism? CONGRESSIONAL RECORD that I have just
ginning at"the bottom of page 1388 and Mr. STRATTON. Mr. Speaker, I am read on page 1389, I think we ought
Continuing over to page 1385: not criticizing him; I am just trying to perhaps to pursue the chronology just
Furtherznore,..while 'evidence` mounts of analyze the charge. Then we will know a bit. This charge was made on the
new equipment, pouring in from the Com- whether the information presented last 31st of January. It is my information,
monist bloc, there is continuing- night was correct. and IAo disclosed it to the press yester-
Get this- Mr. CUNNINGHAM. Mr. Speaker, I day, that the following day the individ-
made the point of order that the name ual that made the charge was visited by
there is continuing, absolutely confirmed and of a Member of the other body may not the1 ead of the Central Intelligence
undeniable evidence that the Soviets are be used in the well of the House. Age'ney, the top man of the intelligelrce
maintaining and guarding the medium-range The SPEAKER. Does the gentleman service of this country. r. John Mc-
sites they had previously constructed in
Cuba. There has been no Soviet move to insist on his point of order? Cone, who is incidentally ads nguished
dismantle these' concrete 'sites ,or withd"'raw Mr. CUNNINGHAM I do, Mr. member "of?"f"ie _ epubxliCan Party, came
the Launching bases; as one might expect if Speaker. there for the purpose of presenting to
the Soviets intended in gpod faith to keep The SPEAKER. The Chair will state the individual that had made the charge
these missiles out of Cuba in the future. that under the rules of the House, if a the same information, the same proof, .
Now, let us be clear about what 66n- Member insists upon strict compliance, that was presented publicly to the
a tor KEATING was alleging. He says:: to mention the name of a Member of the American people on television last night,
There is absolutely confirmed and undeni- other body is not consistent with the to prove that the minimum range sites
able evidence that the "Soviets,ae maintain- rules of the House. The rules of the which had previously been constructed
ing and guarding the medium-range'sites House are different from the rules of the in Cuba had not only.been dismantled
they had previously constructed in Cuba. Senate. but the concrete had been all.destroyed,
Mr. STRATTON. Mr. Speaker, a and that was the end of it.
Not missiles In eaves that we have parliamentary inquiry. That was on last Friday. In spite
been talking about, not something that The SPEAKER. We in this body- of that fact, on the following Sunday
is under, a tree somewhere camouflaged and this is in addition to an answer on there appeared a tef4ii ,"s'aow in
where even the highly competent "planes the point of order-we in this body rec- which the same charge was made.
of our Air Force and Navy could not get ognize the comity between the two There were then on Monday press re-
at it, not something Ghat is in some all- branches. leases issued by the same individual who
score part of the island where perhaps The gentleman from New York will made the charge renewing that charge,
trated alleged U-we h not even gene- state his parliamentary inquiry, getting further publicity out of it.
elated with the l or with
else. anything Mr. STRATTON. Mr. Speaker, my There was a picture circulated nation-
What. he is saying is that they are parliamentary inquiry is this. Would it wide, to which I have referred, with the
maintaining and guarding the ediurri- be in order to refer to a Member of the individual making the charge holding a
constructed in other body without the use of his name? Minuteman intercontinental ballistic
singe sites and
Cuba," the same ones that ctrctd the The SPEAKER. The Chair feels that missile over the map of Cuba, although
crisis, the oam that all the fuss was a proper reference to the other body as actually there has been no charge about
about. And he goeson to say: such may be in order, but reference to a intercontinental ballistic missiles. Then
There has been no, Soviet move to 'ass- Member of the other body may be not on Monday there appeared in the U.S.
monde these concrete sites.. consistent with the rules of the House. News & World Report a detailed inter-
Mr. STEED. Mr. Speaker, a parlia- view with the individu&.:once again re-
Well, did you not see on television last mentary inquiry. peating the c~~ ?AfcCone,
niglit those ctures? Did ou not see The SPEAKER. Does the gentleman of e 1 ca~iParty, and the man
where the`Sov et bulldozers had gone in from New York yield for that purpose? who is car with the top manage-
and pushed the concrete aside, where The Chair would like to say that the ment of our intelligence services, had al-
they had taken everything out and there Chair is trying delicately to answer the ready demonstrated to him personally
was "not a single thing left except one question. was false; yet it was repeated without
beat; }}p Soviet truck ' driving around, Mr. STRATTON. Mr. Speaker, would any effort being made to correct it.
trying to pick up a few pieces that were it be in' order for the gentleman from On Tuesday as a member of the
New York to proceed without reference Armed Services Committee and as an
lef#.? How pith evidence do you have
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rings for the MRBM had been torn from
their concrete bases. So where does the
gravel come in? Not certainly from the
Intelligence service of the U.S. Govern-
ment-not from the pictures-not from
any facts. But nobody was talking about
gravel in the CONGRESSIONAL RECORD On
January 31 and In the subject TV, news-
paper, and magazine publicity, and the
fact Is there never was any gravel or
black top in the intelligence pictures
taken over Cuba?
I think we should nail this thing down
right now because if someone is going
to charge anything about the Intelli-
gence service of our Government, then
certainly he should know what he is
talking about, and if someone is going
to frighten the American people and de-
stroy their confidence in what their Gov-
ernment is doing, then he ought to know
what he is talking about. And yet, here
we see he is just talking nonsense be-
cause on the 31st of January he is talk-
ing of concrete and on the 5th of Febru-
ary he is talking about gravel.
A little bit reminiscent, if I may say
so, of the late Senator Joe McCarthy,
who sometimes said one thing one day
and another thing another day.
Now maybe the gentleman who made
this charge would say, "Well, there is the
word 'concrete' in the CONGRESSIONAL
REcoan--that is right. But that was
just an oversight. I didn't really mean
concrete. I just got it In there by mis-
take." And, Mr. Speaker, It is true that
the "concrete" does not appear in the
charge that appeared subsequently in
the newspapers. The word "concrete"
had been strickep and It Is also true the
word "concrete" had been stricken in the
U.S. News & World Report article. So
maybe he might claim that one of our
good friends who was recording the de
liberations of another body somewhere
had just made a mistake. Oh,no.no.no.
Here is a clipping from the Rochester
Democrat and Chronicle dated Febru-
ary 1, 1963. It refers to this same speech.
this same charge, and It says that after
his speech the individual who made that
charge was asked by a reporter, Edmund
B. Lambeth of the Gannet News Service,
to describe the sites and remaining
equipment and their maintenance.
He replied to Mr. Lambeth that the
sites and the equipment he referred to
were concrete emplacements.
There Is no mistake about that. It
was not a slip of the reporter:
Concrete emplacements with embedded
metal attachments.
Then a little further on in the Roch-
ester Democrat and Chronicle story we
read:
The medium range missiles believed to
have been removed were fired by mobile
launchers.
Actually were not set up for firing
from mobile launchers in Cuba. They
had concrete bases.
Asked whether he had evidence of
where the mobile launchers were physi-
cally located on the sites, this Individual
Is quoted as saying:
No. I don't, but the concrete emplace-
ments are still there.
officer in the Naval Reserve I just could
not take it any longer. I felt that re-
gardless of the comity between the
branches of the Congress, regardless of
the regular courtesies that prevail in this
body, to which my good friend from
Iowa referred a moment ago-and I want
to tell him I apologize for not having
informed the gentleman from Indiana,
because It was my Intention to deal spe-
cifically with another charge, and this
statement of the gentleman from Indi-
ana was one that I brought in paren-
thetically, simply because I happened to
read it in a newspaper just before I came
onto this floor.
But on Tuesday, as I say, I could not
stand it any longer and I pointed out that
on the basis of the information already
presented to our committee, there could
not possibly be any basis to that charge
and any individual who would make It
would be talking through his hat. Well,
surprisingly enough, that did get some
attention. Apparently It even got back
to the individual who made the charge
because on Wednesday morning, there
appeared an interview, an exclusive in-
terview that came over the wire-I have
not seen It In the paper to tell the truth,
but it came over the wire-an interview
with the individual who had made the
charge, by the Associated Press. The
Interview was conducted by reporters
Jack Bell and Fred Hoffman. They were
asking him about this charge. Here is
what he said. They were asking him a
question. The individual replied as fol-
lows:
The intermediate range missile bases have
a concrete base. I was at no time talking
about that-no reference to that whatsoever,
When the Defense Department replied, they
got that into the picture. Now a great many
of those have been bulldozed and broken up
and, perhaps, all of them have so far as I
know. What I was talking about was the
medium range missile sites which do not
have a concrete base at all. They are gravel
or hard-top in character.
Now, who was it again that got the
concrete in? The Defense Department?
Oh, no, here it is in the CONDRESSIONAIr,
RECORD. On Thursday, the 31st of Jan-
uary, and I read it again-"There has
been no Soviet move to dismantle these
concrete sites." And yet on Wednesday
he says, "Oh, I never mentioned con-
crete-no, I was talking about gravel, of
course." The IRBM sites have concrete
bases. I was not talking about them. I
was talking about the medium range mis-
sile pads. They are made of gravel or
black-top construction or macadam or
asphaltic concrete or whatever you want
to call It.
Well, the fact of the matter is-and I
think if you watched television last night
you saw it-the fact of the matter is that
the medium-range missile sites that were
constructed In Cuba, and that is what
we are talking about here, those prey--
ously constructed, also had-coneivte Add
you saw In the pictures last night the
concrete and you saw the concrete broken
up; and when the portions of the me-
dium-range site were sitting on the dock
waiting to be loaded, Mr. Hughes, the
Department of Defense intelligence ex-
pert pointed out, how these launching
the speech, so there is no error in
transcription :
The concrete emplacements are still there.
I challenge any fairminded American
who looked at the television broadcast
last night to say that the concrete em-
placements are still there. If that pres-
entation was not a refutation, a sweep-
ing refutation of the gentleman's orig-
inal charge, then I cannot read the
English language. -
I have heard It said that the individual
who made the charge said that if any-
thing he had said was disproven he
would eat his hat. Well, I think we
in this''body can look for a good deal of
hat eating around here in the days
ahead.
Mr. Speaker, I think I have said
enough now to indicate that our De-
fense Department is still safe, fortu-
nately, that our intelligence agencies are
still in good hands, and that we would
be well advised to continue to entrust
the collection of intelligence, its evalua-
tion, and Its dissemination to the duly
constituted agencies of our Defense De-
partment. I think it Is quite clear that
an individual who cannot tell the dif-
ference between a medium range ballistic
missile and an intermediate range bal-
listic missile, or a person who cannot tell
the difference between concrete and
gravel, or a person who cannot recall on
the 5th of February a sweeping charge
he made on the 31st of January, is not
the kind of person we want to take over
the top operation of our intelligence
services and supercede those who have
been duly constituted by our Govern-
ment to handle these matters.
As I say, any individual is welcome
to have any source of information he
wants-revelation, dreams, myths, fie-
tion; but, believe me, when it comes to
maintaining the security of this coun-
try in time of peril-oh, let us not make
any question about that, we are certainly,
facing peril here, there is no question
about that; when you look at what was
facing us in Cuba you realize that there
was peril and there is still peril-but
when we are facing a time of peril this
is precisely the reason why we cannot
now turn our intelligence services over
to fiction and fancy and to whimsy, but
we mus; base their conclusion on hard
and established facts.
Mr. ADAIR. Mr. Speaker, will the
gentleman yield?
Mr. STRATTON. I am afraid I do
not have time to yield. I have a couple
of other points I am very anxious to
make. I am sorry.
Mr. Speaker, this is a matter that
transcends party. We are facing the
possibility of serious action at any time.
The individual who made the charges
that were quoted a moment ago is also
quoted as saying:
I am not at this moment advocating a
specific course of action.
How easy it is to be an armchair strate-
gist. How easy it is to talk about things
when all you have to do is fill pages of
'the RECORD or to get headlines in a news-
paper. But, Mr. Speaker, when you have
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and are likely to go through again the ney General: the gentlewoman from Ohio [Mrs.
threat of nuclear warfare, as President JANUARY 18, 1963. FRANCES P. BOLTON] are specific answers
Kexihe'dy -went through it in October with Hon. H. R. GROSS, provided to my questions. He does not
great courage and great determination Congress of the United States, see fit to advise me of the number of
House Office Building, Washington, D.C. youthful planners already at work on a
and got the thanks, applause, and re- DEAR CONGRESSMAN GROSS; Enclosed are
spent of the people of America as well two copies of the report to the President on national service program. Neither will
as the freedom-loving people around the a national service program. As you know, he tell me the salary level of each planner
world for his forceful leadership, then the President appointed a Cabinet-level nor the source of the funds from which
you are not going to base your actions committee to make a recommendation on the they are being paid.
on the kind of flimsy thing I have been feasibility of such a program. Despite the evasiveness of Mr. Hack-
analyzing here this afternoon, you are In the course of this study, we contacted ett's reply, I can assure my colleagues
going to look for hard facts. several hundred organizations and individ- that there are in fact "youthful planners"
uals in a wide variety of areas. In almost at work to get this latest New Frontier
Oh, it is all right to play legitimate every case, these groups indicated interest in
politics. We all play politics at times, and support for the concept of a service boondoggle rolling-even though Con-
and sometimes we even play politics on program. gress has never authorized a domestic
the floor of this House, and I think, We will very much appreciate your com- Peace Corps, a national' service program
frankly, Mr. Speaker, there has been a ments and suggestions regarding this pro- or whatever the new Robert Kennedy
little more of this play in the past few posal. baby is to be named.
weeks on the left side of the aisle, if I Sincerely, - On January 30, the distinguished gen-
DAVID L. HACKETT, tleman from Ohio [Mr. DEVINE] and I
may say so, than, I have seen here in
some time. It is all right to play politics; Special Assistant to the Attorney paid a visit to the domestic Peace Corps it is all right to try to undermine a party, General. nursery, which is located In top story
even the Democratic Party; we are all On January 29, 1963, I responded to rooms of a building at 736 Jackson
fair game. But there is no 'right, on the Mr. Hackett's letter as follows: Square-just a stone's throw from the
part of any responsible individual, any Mr. DAVID L. HACKETT, White House. This is what we found:
responsible American, to- try to under- Special Assistant to the Attorney General, We found among other things that the
mine the confidence ofnt, in the our defense American Washington, D.C. start of this so-called domestic Peace
people in our DEAR MR. HACKETT: Reference is made to Corps is already an accomplished fact intelligence service, or in the Depart- your letter of January 18, with which you included copies of a Report to the President in the minds of the youthful planners
merit of Defense, at a time when we face on a 'national service program." as they are called. There is no question
a Soviet threat 90 miles from our shores. Since I am unaware of any action by con- about that. They are off and running.
Let us not pursue personal gain or per- gress authorizing a "national service pro- Mr. DEVINE. Mr. Speaker, will the
sonal aggrandizement, and let us not be gram," can you tell me the source of the gentleman yield?
making irresponsible charges that do not funds used for the preparation of this re- Mr. GROSS. I yield to my friend from
port? Also, please advise me of the total Ohio.
even stick together, that do not even amount spent. On the afternoon of
make sense, that cannot even be remem- According to an Associated Press dispatch Mr. DEVINE.
January 30, 1963, just be-
Is from one day to the-next. This in the Washington Evening Star of Janu-
Is the kind of thing that undermines' our ary 28, "youthful planners" are already at fore 2 o'clock, the gentleman from Iowa
national security and gives aid and corn- work on the program in a "few top story [Mr. GROSS] who is presently addressing
fort to the enemy. rooms at an old house on Jackson Square." the House and I paid a visit to this Na-
I sincerely hope, Mr. Speaker, that'the How many planners are at work, and what tional Service Corps, or Domestic Peace
is the salary level of each planner? From Corps, or whatever it may be called. We
individual that made them, as an honor- what funds are they being paid? found it located on the third and fourth
able gentleman, will admit publicly that sincerely yours, floors of an old-type residential building
he was wrong when he claimed that See- H. R. GRoss, that now apparently has been acquired
retary McNamara had not disputed any Today, I received the following reply by the General Services Administration.
of his specific claims. Otherwise he from Mr. Hackett: The first two floors, I believe, are occu-
surely forfeits the confidence of the peo- DEAR CONGRESSMAN GRoss: Thank you for pied by some music organization; 736
pie that he represents. We cannot deal your letter of January 29 concerning the Jackson Place is located on Lafayette
effectively with the Communist threat if proposed Domestic Peace Corps. I would Square.
we are going to have people sniping ir- also like to take this opportunity to express As we entered the third floor of this
responsibly and trying to undermine es- my appreciation to you and Congressman walkup office structure, we found quite a
tablished agencies of Government on the DEVINE for your visit on January 30. number of desks and quite a number of
basis of nothing more substantial than Congresswoman. FRANCES BOLTON wrote to
the flimsy, evanescent, off-again-on- the Attorney General on January 30 raising papers strewn around the various desks
again evidence I have revealed here to- some of the same questions raised by your and maps on the wall outlining each
letter. A copy of the Attorney General's re- congressional district in the United
day. ply to Mrs. BOLTON is enclosed. States. We made inquiry of some of the
Mr. Speaker, some years ago a'Mem- The 10 agencies. assigned by the President girl secretaries who were occupying of-
ber of the other body was censured for to prepare a report concerning the desirabil- fice space and they advised us that there
actions unbecoming that body. I cer- ity and feasibility of establishing a domestic was a Mr. McClure apparently in charge
tainly hope that as the result of some of service program have cooperated in this ac- in that local facility. We were intro-
the activities that have been going on in tivity in accordance with his instructions. duced to Mr. Don McClure who treated
recent days, that there will not be a re- Each agency has developed data within its
OW area of concern and contributed ed its us quite cordially and attempted to con-
petition of that'action in days to come i s to the report. ceal nothing particularly, and he in turn
on the floor of the Senate of the United i have no reliable information as to the introduced us to a man, I believe by the
number of persons the various departments name of Ellinger.
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and agencies may have assigned to the de- Mr. McClure advised both the gentle-
velopment
,SERVICE PROGRAM velopment and presentation of data in con- man from Iowa, Congressman GROSS,
nection with the preparation of this report, and I that he was on loan from the Peace
The' S?EAHER. Under previous or- their respective pay scales, or the amount of Corps which incidentally is located at
der of the' House, the gentleman" from time they devoted to this activity; however,
Iowa [Mr. GROSS] is recognized for 15 it is my understanding that this work was 806 Connecticut Avenue, just a few doors
accomplished as a part of the regular activi- from the domestic Peace Corps offices.
minutes. ties of the persons involved and without sig- We asked him how much time was
(Mr. GROSS asked and was given per- nificant disruption of their regular duties. spent there and he said he usually re-
mission to revise and extend his re- If we can be of any further service to you, ported at the Peace Corps in the morn-
marks.) please let me know. ing, then he came over on loan and
Sincerely yours,
Mr. GROSS. Mr. Speaker; on Jams- DAVID L. HACKETT spent all day long at the domestic Peace
,
ary 19, 1963, I received the following un- Special Assistant to the Attorney Corps and sometimes in the evening he
solicited letter from the Office of the At- General. would check back at the so-called for-
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eign Peace Corps. Mr. Ellenger I believe
was attached to the staff of the Attorney
General. They both indicated to us that
the entire operation was under the
guidance and control apparently of the
author of the letter to which the gentle-
man from Iowa has alluded, a Mr.
Hackett in the Attorney General's Office.
Whey also indicated that there was
another man in some type of supervisory
capacity by the name of Boone. Upon
inquiry as to the number of persons en-
gaged in this particular operation they
said that they imagined there were
around 18, and I think they went up to
about 22. They stated that these em-
ployees were on loan from various de-
partments of the Government, including
HEW and the Department of Justice, or
the Attorney General's Office and the
Peace Corps. They said they had been
In operation, I believe, at this particular
location, since November 17, 1962.
Mr. GROSS. That is right,
Mr. DEVINE. Of course, as the gen-
tleman knows, our interest In this was,
how could there be in existence a na-
tional service corps, or a domestic
Peace Corps at this time without an au-
thorization of the Congress of the
United States? The purpose of our in-
quiry was to find out how many people
were there, what they were doing, and
who or what group of taxpayers were
paying the salaries of these persons.
I might say upon Inquiry that they
said they had corresponded with a num-
ber of organizations across the Nation.
We asked them on whose letterhead they
directed their inquiries, and they said
that they were written on the letterhead
of the Attorney General of the United
States.
I merely put that in the RECORD so
there is no question of the purpose of our
visit, when it occurred, and what we did.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman
for yielding.
Mr. GROSS. Mr. Speaker, I thank
the gentleman for his observations con-
cerning this matter.
This Mr. McClure from the Peac
getting this show on the road, and w n
questioned as to how the Peace C s
could operate without a man of di-
mension on the job, he being a f time
employee of the international ease
Corps, he said, as my good Erie from
Ohio has just related, that h topped
at the office In the morning d made
certain checks and then on over
to the office of the domestic ace Corps.
Of course, the staffing of is outfit on
Jackson Place on the basis of loaned per-
sonnel means that other departments of
Government must be liberally overstaffed
with stenographers and organizers, and
what-have-you. Congress ought to be
interested In finding out how they ob-
tain these surplus employees they have
available to move around with the great-
est of ease throughout the Government.
Mr. SCHWENGEL. Mr. Speaker, will
the gentleman yield?
Mr. GROSS. I yield to the gentleman.
Mr. SCHWENGEL. Did the gentle-
man inquire of this group of people
whether or not this development was the
result of any studies or any contact with
the youth organizations in America whose
principal objective concerns the youth
of America, and who have definite pro-
grams to develop character and help take
care of their leisure interests, and to do
those things that build for good citizen-
ship, et cetera?
Mr. GROSS.. They claimed to have
contacted many organizations over the
country. I could not say whether they
have contacted any specific organization.
Mr. SCHWENGEL. I am interested
in whether or not the Boy Scouts or the
Girl Scouts were contacted.
Mr. GROSS. I do not know. I can-
not answer as to that. I do know that
they said that they had contacted many
tleman think it would be better us
to show an interest in the progr now
established to do the job tha ey say
gentleman yield?
Mr. GROSS. I yield
Mr. DEVINE, I miliff add that they-
Mr. McClure and lenger-provided
us with a pamfsh6et dicating an out-
line of the Prestudy on, I think,
juvenile delinqu hey also gave us
a mimeogr'ap with questions
Tlis thing to which I would
specto call to the attention
of tshlp, and that is at page
1772 ONGRESSIONAL RECORD Of
Pebr3, where they will find a
very down by the senior Sen-
ator in connection with the
operso-called National Serv-
ice on, or domestic Peace
or other that was held about a week or
10 days ago at Duke Zieberts to celebrate
the acquisition of this fine Washington
Redskin quarterback as a member of
this organization. I understand from
the papers recently he was hired at $75
a day, then, for some reason, he decided
or was persuaded that he was a volun-
teer. I thought in our general inquiry
we might find out who picked up the
check for this lavish entertainment.
Mr. GROSS.' I assume that came out
of the representation allowance of some
Government agency. Some of us have
been opposed to these lavish entertain-
ment funds which are provided by the
taxpayers.
There is stilt another interesting de-
velopment in this Domestic Peace Corps
story, for now It is revealed as a result
of the diligent work of a Member of the
other body that on August 1. 1962, the
Department of Health, Education, and
Welfare made an outright grant of
$250,000 to an organization known as
Associated Community Teams, Inc., with
offices at 179 West 13th Street, in New
York City. Of the total grant of
$250,000 another distingui he-d Member
of the other body reports that $157,080
is to be spent for personnel, or more
than one-half of the total grant. This is
fantastic.
The Department lists one of the in-
corporators of Associated Community
Teams, Inc., as ADAM CLAYTON POWEL'L,
Congressman, Minister.
I might say in passing that I endeav-
ored to contact Mr. POWELL early this
afternoon to tell him I would use his
name on the House floor. I was in-
formed that his whereabouts is unknown
to his office. I was totally unable to
contact the gentleman. There are news-
paper reports to the effect that he is at
his residence In Puerto Rico. In any
event I 'earned nothing of his where-
abouts.
I repeat, Adam Clayton Powell, Con-
gressman, minister; Livingston L. Win-
gate, associate counsel for labor-man-
agement, Committee on Education and
Labor; David D. Jones, Deputy Commis-
sioner of Correction; Jawn A. Sandifer,
attorney, civic leader; and Jose Ramoz
Lopez, assemblyman, New York City.
This grant allegedly was made for the
purpose of developing the nucleus of a
domestic peace corps. There is a se-
rious doubt, in my mind, at least, that
the Department had the authority to
make the grant, coming as it did from
an appropriation specifically earmarked
for the study of juvenile delinquency.
Perhaps it is appropriate to mention
that it will be the House Committee on
Education and Labor, chairmaned by
the same gentleman from New York, Mr.
ADAM CLAYTON POWELL, which will con-
sider domestic peace corps legislation,
Providing, of course, that the President
and the Attorney General condescend
to consult the Congress about it. In
view of what has happened thus far,
there is some reason to doubt that they
Rill bother with anything so "unimpor-
tant" as obtaining congressional ap-
proval for a program which obviously
already is on the road.
NATIONAL ACTORS' EQUITY WEEK
The SPEAKER. Under previous or-
der of the House; the gentleman from
New York [Mr. HALPERNI is recognized
for 5 minutes,
Mr. HALPERN. Mr, Speaker, I call
the attention of my colleagues to a joint
resolution I am introducing today to
designate the week of May 20-26 as Na-
tional Actors' Equity Week.
I am delighted to join my distin-
guished colleague from New York [Mr.
LINDSAY], in the sponsorship of this
resolution. And I wish to take this op-
portunity to commend the distinguished
gentleman for his interest, concern, and
activity on behalf of all phases of the
performing arts. I am privileged indeed
to join with him in this step to give
proper recognition to the performers in
the American theater.
The dates designated in this resolu-
tion have a special significance, for it
was on May 26, 1913, that a group of
leading American actors and actresses,
dedicated to their art and determined to
improve thestatusof those in the theat-
r~cal profession, formed Actors' Equity.
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