DISCUSS CIA

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP75-00149R000600410014-9
• Release Decision: RIPPUB
• Original Classification: K
• Document Page Count: 2
• Document Creation Date: November 11, 2016
• Document Release Date: January 16, 1999
• Sequence Number: 14
• Publication Date: November 2, 1965
• Content Type: TRANS

PROGRAM dightline
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DATE November 2, 1965 7:30 PM crrv"vlash ington,
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DISCUSS CIA
CPYRGHT
CALLER: "Well, hey, listen, have you been reading the
series in the Washington P-1st about our man in the Kremlin?"
BOB ''AYFO "I've been sort of glancing over it, looking
at it, yes. I started -- I think it started Sunday, with the
second one coming'up today. And it's been a very interesting
thing -- I prefer to road these things in book form as they're
put together, you .know."
CALLER: "I just wanted, really -- I want to know your
opinion, or if you have an opinion, you know, as to whether you
believe these things or think it's a lot of propaganda, or if
you think it's true."
RAYFORD: "I would hate to say it's propaganda -- I would
hate to say it's propaganda. Lot we say that from what I have
read, I would accept a good bit of it with a grain of salt."
CALLER: "It's sort of hard for me to believe that a man,
you know, with such a high position in the Russian Army would do
such a thing. Jesus, I'd hate to think that we have American
generals doing the same thing as the Communists."
RAYFORD: "Well, this does make the story a bit incredulous
I think it does. It just sort of makes you wonder about them.
But I don't know. There's so much intrigue going on, so much
intrigue that's been generated by the CIA and the FBI. They Got
the FBI watching the CIA down in the -- in Latin America these
days."
CALLER: "Well, that's the way tt should be."
RAYFORD: "(laughs) Oh, you think it should be."
CALLER: "The CIA seems to bungle everything, you know."
RAYFORD: "Drell, you don't know. Let's ha;:za it to the CIA,
a little bit, because when the CIA really comes up with a great -
with a grand coup, you know, when they come up with something gre
nobody knows about it. It's only when they botch,-it up."
CALLER: "That's probably true."
FS,YFORD: "But I have heard people say that the most thankle
task a person could have is to work with the CIA.
"I remember a couple of years ago, when I was kind of at wit
end, when I went out to the V.P.R. and turned off and went to the
CIA and told them, 'Okay, here I am.' You know, I'm a snake-eate
and well go along and see if we can't get with the CIA. And I m
a very clerical sort of man in the personnel department out there
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off . I d tdn't care. I was offering ray life. This was when John
F F. was making his statements that were so indelible on
prople of our a(*o, 'Ask not what your country can do for you, but
what yo-L, can do for your country.' And I was ready to have them,
you know, put me out in the jungles. Let me go. I would spy for
them. I would do anything. And I went out to the CIA, and I got
the shortest shrift I have ever gotten from any organization any-
where. They ignored me. They totally ignored me. They said,
';dell, he's nutty in the first place. We don''- rant him.'"
CALLER: "Well, listen, would ;,rou have taken the polygraph ? test?"
RAYF ORD : "No. "
CALLER: "I understand you have to before you can go to work out
there."
RAYt{ ORD: "Oh, is that right? Well, maybe, at that stage of the
game, I probably would."
CALLER: "Yeah, that's a terrible thing."
RAYFORD: "I probably would take it. What's this one they've
got going about -- you know, where they ask you all sorts of ques-
tions about your sex life?"
CALLER: (Laughs).
RAYF ORD: "Only problem is, I wish they had given it to me,
because I would have probably ruined the curve."
RAYFORD: "Hello, TOP Nightline."
CAL LER: "Hello, sir. I'd like to comment on some of the things
before I got into the main reason I called you.
"One, you were kidding about the newscaster and what stress he
was under. I'd like to kid him about the fact he was taking the
candidates in ascending order; then he went down the list to first
to fifth.
"But more than that, lately you mentioned the FBI keeping an eye
on the CIA. The FBI has had the jurisdiction under organization for
external counter espionage, or whatever you want to call it, for
Latin America since thz '301s. And, actually, it's the CIA who's
moving in on them. It used to be quite a fight to win the OSS and
the FBI about Latin America."
NOV 2 1965
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