JOURNAL - OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

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• Publication Date: July 26, 1972
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Journal - Office of Legislative Counsel Page 2
Wednesday - 26 July 1972
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side of the Congress for the White House, and told him about our concern
over the Laos ceiling. Cook seemed to be entirely uninformed about the situation.
When I said I understood some thought was being given to solving the problem,
by changes in language, but we believed the complete deletion of the ceiling
would be preferable, Cook agreed.
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ssistant, House
Appropriations Committee, called to say Chairman Mahon would like the
Director to appear before the Special Group on Wednesday, 2 August at
10:00 a. m, for a world roundup briefing.
7? Jim Lowenstein, Senate Foreign Relations
Committee s a. , called to confirm our briefing of Chairman Fulbright
tomorrow afternoon at 3:30 regarding the bombing of dikes question. He said
Chairman Fulbright would like Senator Aiken to attend and wanted to be sure
we would bring photographic material.
8? Called Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel, Senate
Armed Services Committee, and said the Agency had no interest in the
Nelson amendment which would cut off funds for any activities designed to
modify weather conditions for military purposes.
9' I I During the Director's appearance on the
Hill, I receive a call from Mr. Ralph Preston, House Appropriations
Committee staff, who told me the Chairman has scheduled Wednesday morning,
2 August, at 10:00 for briefing of the Special Group. He has decided against a
briefing of the Defense Subcommittee. In a second conversation he said that
since the Director is on the Hill, the Chairman would appreciate it if Mr. Helms
could stop by his office in the Capitol, Room H 218, after he finishes his
session with the Armed Services Committee. The Director was advised.
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Mattas, House Foreign Affairs Committee staff, and confirmed the final
arrangements for the Director's briefing of the full Foreign Affairs Committee
tomorrow, 27 July, at 10:00 a. m.
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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Wednesday - 26 July 1972
L John Goldsmith, Senate Armed Services
Committee staff, called early this morning to invite our attention to the
Nelson amendment No. 1354 to the Military Procurement Authorization
Act H. R. 15495 which would add a new section 605 prohibiting funds for
the modification of weather conditions for military purposes, mentioning
especially the seeding of clouds. I told Goldsmith I was about to join the
Director who was appearing before House Armed Services Committee and
asked him to relay his information to 10f my Office. See
Memo for Record.
2, Accompanied the Director and Messrs. Duckett
and George Allen who briefed the full House Armed Services Committee on
SALT verification. See Memo for Record and transcript.
3. The Director and I talked privately to
Frank Slatinshek, Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, prior
to the Director's appearance this morning before the full Committee, and we
explained our serious concern about thel ceiling which the Senate 25X1A
had established for the U. S. program in Laos, and urged the importance of
knocking out this provision entirely, rather than trying to solve the problem
with technical changes in the language. Slatinshek fully agreed, and I asked
that he keep me informed of developments so we could explain the problem to
House conference members when the bill reaches. the House.
4. Talked to Representative Bill Nichols and
explained that we would giv a constituent in which he is 25X1A
especially interested, every consideration, I had earlier told Nichols that we had
consideredi or the CT Program, but the present quota was filled and
the next class would not be until next year. This morning Nichols said he was
sure would be willing to wait until the next class if there was any
chance of his getting Agency employment.
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4, Jim Lowenstein, Senate Foreign Relations
Committee staff, called and said Chairman Fulbright would like him, Carl
Marcy and Richard Moose to attend the Chairman's briefing by an Agency
representative on the bombing of dikes in North Vietnam. They proposed
3:30 Thursday, 27 July, in room S-116 in the Capitol. Acting I2b- 1A
who will do the briefing has been notified.
5. Talked to Marshall Wright, Deputy Assistant
Secretary of State for Congressional Relations, and explained that we would
prefer that Mr. Abshire not attend our breakfast meeting with Senator Henry
Bellmon and his group of junior Republican senators.
Mr. Wright spoke of the shambles resulting from yesterday's Senate
action on the foreign aid bill and said the Administration now had three options--
a new bill in the Senate, a House bill (which the Senate would probably mutilate)
or submit the entire old foreign aid bill as an amendment to the military
authorization. He predicted that the second alternative, the House bill, would
be the most likely prospect.
I raised the question of the Laos ceiling, remarking that we would hope
to see this entire provision struck out in conference. Wright said he was not
up-to-date on this but he did understand that Defense was trying to work out
a deal with Chairman Hebert, House Armed Services Committee, to insert
some "artful language" in the bill that would limit the effect of the ceiling.
I said it seemed to us that having the ceiling struck out entirely would be
far preferable since the "artful language" approach was likely to get us in
trouble and cost us our credibility.
6. Met with Nancy Bearg, Research Assistant,
Senate Armed Services Committee, who briefed me on the highlights of
Secretary Laird's testimony before the Committee yesterday on SALT.
7. (Confidential - JMM) In the absence of Frank Slatinshek, Chief
Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, I left a message with his secretary,
Miss Kalinowski, reemphasizing what I had told him yesterday of our serious
concern about the Laos ceiling, and our belief that every possible effort should be
made in conference to strike out this provision entirely, rather than modifying
it with technical changes in the language. Miss Kalinowski was aware of the
problem and said that she didn't think the matter would come up for several weeks.
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Monday - 24 July 1972
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18. John Lehman, NSC staff, called following our
conversation last Friday on the question of Senator Fulbright's request for a
National Intelligence Estimate dealing with Indochina. Lehman said he had
consulted David Young about the matter and was appalled to hear Young say
that apparently all NIEs as well as NSC documents are subject to the 10=year
declassification rule set forth in the latest Executive Order. Lehman urged
that I consult Larry Houston to see if we could find some basis for making
an exception. He made clear that his personal view was that NIEs should be
protected at all costs. He commented that he was even more amazed to learn
that a recent Executive Order provides that there shall be no interdepartmental
meetings without a "Presidential charter. " Lehman points out that this means
that WSAG, SRG and LIG and other groups in which we participate are all illegal.
He said he can't imagine who would have put out such an order.
Turning to the Laos ceiling, Lehman said that Bill Timmons plans to
see Chairman Hebert, House Armed Services Committee, shortly to enlist his
support for one of the following courses of action:
a. Knock out the ceiling entirely.
b. Establish a $429 million ceiling.
c. Exempt from the application of the ceiling various
items which would have the effect of raising the ceiling to $450 million.
19. In an effort to run down the fact whether
there would be a change in the exempting language of the advisory committee
legislation, S. 3529, as earlier suggested (see Journal of 21 July), I called
Tom Gunn, Senate Government Operations Committee staff, and he assured25X1A
me that the language would be that proposed in Mr. Helms' letter of 18 July 1972.
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Monday - 24 July 1972
1. Met with Frank Slatinshek, Chief Counsel, Hous e
Armed Services Committee, whom I briefed on recent developments regarding
Soviet ICBM tests, Soviet withdrawals from Egypt, SA-3 missiles in Iraq, and
fact that photos show no evidence of deliberate bombing of dikes. Slatinshek said
he hoped the Director would cover the latest ICBM test and the Egyptian situation
during his upcoming appearance before the Committee on 26 July.
I told Slatinshek we had looked into the personnel case he had called
about involving an applicant named in whom RepresentatiX1A
William Nichols of Alabama was especially interested. I said we encountered
no serious security problems and recognized had certain qualificaZ$but our doctors had requested some additional information from him which he
still had not sent in. Slatinshek suggested I convey this information directly
to Nichols' office.
I told Slatinshek of our concern about th ceiling the Senli5cX1A
had imposed on expenditures in Laos and I hoped this could be knocked out entirely
or raised substantially in conference. Slatinshek said he would be glad to try
to help but he wondered whether one device might not be to count weapons and
ammunition, etc. being expended there as "surplus. " I said the Pentagon liked
to play games this way but I thought it was dangerous because inevitably
somebody on the Hill finds out about it, with the corresponding loss of credi-
bility by the Administration. I said I thought we would much rather hit the
Laos ceiling head-on in conference.
2. In the absence of Representative Nichols,
I talked to his Assistant David Patrick and explained that the application of
in whom Nichols was interested, had not been turned down
and there was no derogatory information, but we were waiting for some additional
medical details whichi had undertaken to provide. I said that beyond
this, I couldn't promise anything because of our very tight personnel situation.
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Friday - 21 July 1972
1. Talked with Ralph Preston, Staff Assistant,
House Appropriations Committee, about the concern we have regarding
Senator Symington's requests to State and Defense for detailed information
on funds expended under the Symington ceiling for Laos for Fiscal 72.
Preston (like Bill Woodruff, Counsel, S is i Committee)
feels that we would find it difficult to reuse to provide Symington with this
information in some form, but also agrees that we should refuse to permit
any GAO audit of these funds. Preston commented in this connection that
he would like to have copies of any material which is developed on the Agency's
expenditures for these reports.
I told Preston we were still hoping he could get together with us for
his- briefing session with Carl Duckett soon, but we appreciated the bind he
was in and would wait to hear fromhim as to his availability.
2. Picked up from the Senate Appropriations
and Armed Services Committees copies of the GAO report on pacification
program. One copy has been given to Mr. Colby and the other must be
returned to Bill Woodruff, Counsel, Senate Appropriations Committee.
3. In response to my query, C/FE, 25X1A
checked his notes and said he could find no basis for the statement attributed
to General Vang Pao to the effect that Senator Symington had assured him
there would be no ceiling on U. S. expenditures for Laos in Fiscal 73.
Nelson agrees this was probably a misreading on the General's part of
Symington's statement to the General that Congress would see to it that
he got what he needed.
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