JOURNAL- OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

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Friday - 31 March 1972
1. I Met with Mr. Carl Marcy, Chief of Staff,
Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and borrowed a copy of the transcript
of the Committee hearings of Tuesday, 28 March, on S. 2224. Mr. Marcy
told me he has not been following the hearings on S. 2224 and asked whether we
will be appearing. I told him we had not been called and did not expect to
be and that the Agency position has been consistent in this regard. It is one
of policy for determination by the White House and policy makers. Mr. Marcy
commented he thought this would be the position but that he really hadn't kept
pace with the Committee work on this bill.
2. I Met with Mr. Ralph Preston, House
Appropriations Committee staff, and gave him a copy of the December issue
of the "International Defense Review" which he requested yesterday. He was
pleased to have the copy for work this weekend. As for future issues, he
asked that they be handled in the way that would best suit the Agency.
3. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Assistant Chief
Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, and briefed him on the
Yugoslavian smallpox epidemic and SS-11 Mod 3 testing.
Mr. Slatinshek told me that the DIA briefing Wednesday afternoon
had gone quite well. In brief, the meeting covered recent intelligence
coverage with slides illustrating the points covered.
An open date for next week was made to meet with Mr. Slatinshek to
outline both the format and content for the Agency meeting with the
Subcommittee that will be scheduled after the recess.
4. Accompanied Mr. OCI, to a
briefing of Dorothy Fosdick and Richard Perle, on the staff of the Senate
Subcommittee on National Security and International Operations, on the use
of overhead reconnaissance in combating the illicit international drug
traffic. Neither Perle nor Miss Fosdick had much background on the drug
problem and were most grateful for the information provided them25X1
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Friday - 24 March 1972
10. I ~ylet with Ed Braswell and James
Woolsey, Senate Armed Services Committee staff, whom I briefed on recent
intelligence developments (see preceeding item re Senator Young).
Braswell said he had again raised with Senator Stennis the scheduling
of confirmation hearings for General Walters, but Stennis said he wanted to
finish up with the present series of hearings on some Defense matters before
taking up any additional questions. In view of this, Braswell is confident
that the confirmation of General Walters will not come up before Thursday,
30 March, and probably not until the following week.
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11. In the absence of Senator John V. ST TT
Tunney (D., Calif.), I met with Miss Mary Shinkwin of his staff. I informed
her that the decision to cancel permission for o make some shots
of the interior of the Agency building for the forthcoming film '
had not been made by Mr. Helms. I explained Mr. Helms had discussed t e
matter with and it was who decided not to take STAT
advantage of the opportunity to use the Agency building in the film since to
do so would require that we make an exception of an established policy.
Miss Shinkwin, who was familiar with the background of this matter, said
she was sure Senator Tunney would appreciate being informed of what had
actually happened. I asked her to renew my invitation to Senator Tunney
to come out and have breakfast with us which she promised to do.
12. Met with Dick Schultz, Associate STAT
Chief Counsel, House Security Committee, and answeredthe questions he
proposed on the use of the Committee's indices for name check purposes.
(The information had been provided for me by Office of STAT
Security.) Schultz concluded that the indices were of little or no value to
the Agency and said that this was consistent to what he had found out from
the FBI and Civil Service Commission although he is not sure that the
facts will carry the day in what has grown into a political fight. Schultz
assured me that the information I provided and the Agency's assessment
of the Committee's indices are off the record and appreciated that we did
not want to get involved.
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Friday - 24 March 1972
1. Left with Mr. Vince Rakestraw, on the staff
of Senator William B. Saxbe (R., Ohio), a package of FBIS material containing
statements by Marshal Grechko regarding the status of Soviet military and
defense programs,
after the Easter recess. I told him I would get to work on this and be back
in touch with him.
2. Saw Bill Woodruff, Counsel, Senate Appro-
priations Committee, briefly. He suggested Tuesday morning for the meeting
with n the community budget and also said he would like to
get together with us soon for the prebriefing session on the Agency budget,
hopefully next week. I told him I would check this out with our people and with
Ralph Preston, House Appropriations Committee staff, so we could try to
have a session with both of them in Chuck Brigg's tank as we did last year.
Woodruff said he planned to start hearings on the intelligence community right
Left with Senator Ellender's office Mr. Mau25X1
letter concerning the interest of the Senator in the application of
I indicated our hiring situation was extremely tight but we
rather general way telling him that
were arranging to have our recruiter contact to
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go over the possibilities carefully with him.
4. OP /MMPD, called to 25X1
say his contacts in the Air Force had advised him that Bill Woodruff, Counsel,
Senate Appropriations Committee, had asked DOD for information on certain 25X1
sensitive projects. Woodruff asked for this in connection with the FY 1973
manpower requirements. The Air Force is responding to Woodruff (presuma125X1
specialities. I called Woodruff and alerted him to this and told him i e neeaea
any more detailed information to let us know. Woodruff thanked me for calling
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4. Hand-carried to George Murphy, on the staff
of the Joint Committee on Atomic Energy, copy #3 of the corrected transcript
of the Director's briefing of the Joint Committee on 16 February 1972.
Murphy renewed his request for any information that we could give him on
the as well as any comment we could give him on the story
which appeared in the New York Times on the 12th of March alleging a
"revolutionary potential" among the native Taiwanese. I assured Murphy
that I was checking on these and would be in touch with him later.
5. Met with Miss Helen Mattas, House
Foreign Affairs Committee staff, and reviewed the portion of the transcript
of the statement of Maurice J. Williams, Deputy Administrator, AID, of
21 March relating to questions concerning the GAO report referenced in the
New York Times of Sunday, 19 March. Mr. Williams repeated the agreed
statement verbatim with the exception that he corrected the figure 250, 000
Lao refugees giving the correct figure 280, 000. The tone of his response
was unequivocal and to the point that USAID is not providing support for
Lao military/paramilitary forces and dependents. Miss Mattas also gave
me a copy of the prepared statement read into the 'record by Mr. Williams.
FE Division, has been advised.
6. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Acting Chief
Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, and delivered to him the
Director's letter to the Chairman forwarding certain information on the
Soviet navy for inclusion in the Committee records. This closes out for
the moment the various actions that resulted from the letter of 7 March
from Representative Aspin (D. , Wis. ) to the Director.
In response to his earlier request I gave Mr. Slatinshek a blind
memorandum dated 23 March for his use concerning the GAO report of
USAID assistance to Lao military and paramilitary forces and dependents.
We were joined by Mr. Maury at which time Mr. Slatinshek briefed us on
two GAO actions of interest to the Agency. See Memorandum for Record.
He told us also that he has scheduled a current intelligence briefing
by DIA for the Intelligence Subcommittee on Wednesday afternoon, 29 March,
at 4:00 p. m. He will request a briefing by the Agency on selected current
items some time after the recess and will work out the details with us after
the AID appearance next week. He requested that in general the briefing
be conducted by individuals at the working levels to avoid formality and to
assist the members in developing a better feel for intelligence concepts and
capabilities.
I briefed Mr. Slatinshek on the Wu-Chai launch facility and the
Soviet Mod 3 SS-11 status.
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Wednesday - 22 March 1972
On the basis of information given me by OSI, I
advised Murphy there was no truth to the Washington Daily News article
of 17 March 1972 indicating the U. S. had come, up with evidence proving
that Israel is a nuclear power.
case. I told him I would look into it.
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3. George Murphy, Joint Committee on Atomic
Energy staff, called about an article which appeared in the New York Times
of 12 March 1972 about a former CIA agent who served on Taiwan and claimed
there was a "strong revolutionary potential" among the native Taiwanese.
Murphy said he would be interested in anything we could tell him about this
4. Talked with Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel, Senate
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to suffer for bureaucratic or political reasons in Washington- -that the national
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Braswell said there were no plans for a confirmation hearing this
week for General Walters, but it was possible they could schedule something
for Thursday of next week (30 March).
5. Called Miss Ward, in Senator Stennis'
(D. , Miss.) office, to say that we were ready to bring over some photographs
which we had mounted for the Senator at his convenience and would like to
show them to him personally to be sure they were what he wanted. She said
she would let us know.
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6. Called Walter C. Minnick, of the
to brief Representative Lester Wolff (D. , N. Y. ) in response to his request
for information on Air America involvement in the drug traffic.. Minnick
thought was exactly the man for the job, and recommended that we point
out not only the Agency record with Air America but also the other steps we
had taken to assist with coping with drug traffic in that area.
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Tuesday - 21 March 1972
1. I I Met with Bill Woodruff, Senate Appropriations
Committee staff, and left with him a copy of the Agency budget book for
Fiscal Year 1973. He asked about the "horseblanket" which he said was
actually more useful to him than the budget book and I told him this would
be forthcoming soon.
Brought Woodruff up-to-date on a number of current intelligence
items. See Memorandum for the Record.
2. Met with Vince Rakestraw, in the office of
Senator William B. Saxbe (R., Ohio), in response to the Senator's request
for unclassified material on the Soviet threat. I told him we were not in a
position to prepare any original unclassified material within the Agency but
I provided him with two studies put out by the Institute for Strategic Studies,
"Strategic Survey 1970" and "The Military Balance 1971-1972," along with a
Reader's Digest article by Senator Margaret Chase Smith (R. , Maine) on the
subject. I also told him we were asking the FBIS people to see what they
could come up with in the way of pronouncements by the Soviet's themselves
as to what their intentions are. Rakestraw said he had seen one of the ISS
documents but not the other. Neither had he seen the article by Senator Smith.
He thanked me for this material and said he would be interested in what we
come up with through the FBIS channel. I also mentioned the Secretary of
Defense's posture statement ap a source of information and he said he had
already looked at that but found it too parochial for the Senator's purpose.
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Tuesday - 21 March 1972
3. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Acting Chief
Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, who told me that he would
like to work out an arrangement with the Agency and with DIA to bring
the Intelligence Subcommittee into a little better focus on intelligence.
For several years DIA has briefed the Chief Counsel and the Assistant
Chief Counsel the first thing in the morning on a daily basis together with
the frequent and often daily fill-in on more sensitive matters by members
of this office. He would appreciate our ideas on how these procedures
might be adapted to the five members of the Subcommittee on a
weekly or biweekly basis not only to bring them up to speed on current
intelligence but even more importantly to increase their sense of
participation in the community. Mr. Slatinshek did not see the briefings
by DIA and this Agency, which would be separate, a s being in any way
competitive., As a preliminary consideration, it is his thinking that the
DIA briefing might cover programs or activities and general current
information with the Agency presentations to be in the more exotic matters
or covering somewhat more detail on sensitive matters than is normally
covered by DIA. I told him I would explore the matter with our people
and discuss it further with him later in the week,
I briefed Mr. Slatinshek on the following items: ovie -
ICBMs, and Y-class submarines; and ChiCom surface-to-air missile
deployment.
4. Met with Miss Fran Christy, House
Judiciary Committee staff, who told me that H. R. 2076, a bill for the
relief of was passed by the House on the call
of the private calendar today. ALL o er private bills on the calendar were
passed over. I thanked Miss Christy for the assistance of the staff in
clearing this measure with the official and unofficial objectors of the House
to allow its passage today without objection.
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Tuesday - 21 March 1972
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5. Met with Mr. Ralph Preston, House Appropriations
Committee staff, and gave him a copy of the FY 73 budget book. Mr. Preston
noted that as soon as he can get through it, he will have to see about
scheduling a day for himself and Bill Woodruff, Senate Appropriations
Committee staff, to visit the Agency.
I reviewed with him the GAO report to the Kennedy Refugee
Subcommittee, "Follow-up Review of Civilian Health and War-Related
Casualty Program in Laos. " Mr. Preston thanked me for bringing it to
his attention and said he would try to get a copy of the report for the
Appropriations Committee with regard to the pending Special Committee
hearings on the community budget. Mr. Preston told me that Secretary
Laird had called him and asked that Dr. Albert C. Hall, Assistant Secretary
of Defense (Intelligence), be scheduled for a meeting with the special
Central Intelligence Agency Subcommittee that he (Secretary Laird) feels
that such a meeting would be most helpful. Mr. Preston responded that
such a meeting would be scheduled. Mr. John Clarke has been advised.
6. Talked to Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel,
Senate Armed Services Committee, and asked whether his reference to
Senator Symington's pressing for further hearings on Laos meant that the
Agency might be called up on this subject. Braswell said he thought this
unlikely and that probably State would be called up. He said there was no
chance of the Director being called to testify this week on the Agency budget,
but it was remotely possible that the DDCI confirmation might come up
Thursday.
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his proposed testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on
the Cooper bill, S. 2224. See Memorandum for the Record.
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6. Talked to Ed Braswell regarding the
Committee schedule. He said Senator Symington was pushing for a "follow up
session on Laos" but he (Braswell) "wanted to keep CIA out of it. "
Braswell said he didn't see how they could schedule the Director to
testify on the Agency budget before the CIA Subcommittee this week.
Braswell said it was uncertain when theywould have a confirmation
hearing on General Walters' nomination but it was just possible they could
work it out Thursday. Otherwise he said it Would have to go over until
after the recess (30 March to 4 April).
7. At the request of CI
Staff, delivered a sealed envelope to the office of Cecil Presson, Senate
Internal Security Subcommittee staff.
8. Met with Ralph Preston, Staff Assistant,
House Appropriations Committee, and received back from him the draft copy
of the intelligence community program budget. I told Preston that the book is
being updated and a later version would be furnished as soon as available.
OPPB, has been advised and the book returned to her.
Preston told me that the security field investigation and review by
FBI has been completed on Mrs. Lynn Quinney his new secretary. The
Chairman does not desire any further clearances however since Preston does
not expect to expose her to any compartmented information. Preston also
noted that Messrs. Murphy, Gerrity and Smith will continue to work with him
from time to time on compartmented material.
concerning an industrial engineer,
Administrative Assistant to Representative Frank T. Bow (R. , Ohio),
9. Received a call from Mr. Gil LeKander?5X1
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16. George Murphy, Joint Committee on Atomic
Energy staff, called about a story which appeared in the Washington Daily News
on 17 March indicating that evidence existed concerning Israeli atomic arms.
Murphy asked for our comments on the accuracy of this article.
Murphy mentioned the gain. He expressed a desire
for any information we might give him about t is case because of the JCAE's
interest in the sale of gaseous defusion technology abroad and its interest in
the International Atomic Energy Association (IAEA).
17. Received a call from Colonel Dick Wood,
in the Pentagon, asking if the Director had given a briefing on the Hill last
Friday. I told him he had not and this satisfied his inquiry.
18. Called Dale de Haan, Counsel, Senate Subcommittee on
Refugees and Escapees, and expressed concern about the inaccuracies about
the column by Tad Szulc in the New York Times of 19 March which reported
Senator Kennedy's statements about the classified GAO report on the AID
health program in Laos. See Memorandum for the Record.
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16. George Murphy, Joint Committee on Atomic
Energy staff, called about a story which appeared in the Washington Daily News
on 17 March indicating that evidence existed concerning Israeli atomic arms.
Murphy asked for our comments on the accuracy of this article.
Murphy mentioned the again. He expressed a desire 25X1
for any information we might give him about this case because of the JCAE's
interest in the sale of gaseous defusion technology abroad and its interest in
the International Atomic Energy Association (IAEA).
17. Received a call from Colonel Dick Wood,
in the. Pentagon, asking if the Director had given a briefing on the Hill last
Friday. I told him he had not and this satisfied his inquiry.
18. Called Dale de Haan, Counsel, Senate Subcommittee on
Refugees and Escapees, and expressed concern about the inaccuracies about
the column by Tad Szulc in the New York Times of 19 March which reported
Senator Kennedy's statements about the classified GAO report on the AID
health program in Laos. See Memorandum for the Record.
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Thursday - 16 March 1972
13. I Libby Reynolds, in the office of
Representative Jack Kemp (R. , N. Y.), called to say that Mr. Kemp was
very interested in visiting the Agency for a breakfast-briefing with a half
dozen of his colleagues and suggested that we recommend about four dates,
preferably on Tuesday through Thursday, to see what could be worked out.
Based upon information provided by
FE Division, spoke with John Goldsmith, Senate Armed
Services Committee staff, in response to his earlier call and gave him a
short critique on D. E. Ronk's article in today's Post, "U. S. Seen Violating
Ban in Laos. "
16. Received a call from Mr. Helgerson, USIA,
who wanted unclassified data on the number of Communist Bloc information
officers operating in Western Europe. SB Division is checking.
17. Mr. Lawrence Eagleburger, Deputy Assistant
~cretary_o.f Defense ISA, calle d to say Representative John Ashbrook is suing
the Defense Department and Eagleburger personally, under the Freedom of
Information Act to force publication of the Penkovskiy material. OGC is
following up.
18. Dr. Herbert Scoville called to say he had a
draft of the testimony he plans to give the Senate Foreign Relations Committee
on 28 March and would be happy if we would look at it. We will pick it up
and review it.
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Tuesday - 14 March 1972
9. Talked with Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel, Senate
Armed Services Committee, about the material which they would want covered
in out budget presentation. Braswell was concerned that we not discuss
certain especially sensitive areas in this briefing. See Memorandum for the
Record.
Braswell mentioned the Committee would be meeting on Thursday on
executive business and Chairman Stennis might decide to take up General
Walter's confirmation at that time. He said he would let us know as soon
as the Chairman made a decision.
10. Met with Bill Woodruff, Counsel, Senate Appropri-
ations Committee, and brought him up-to-date on a number of current intellige25X1
items. See Memorandum for the Record.
I mentioned to Woodruff that Senator Stennis had asked us to give a
general briefing to the CIA Subcommittee on the Agency budget some time
in the very near future. Woodruff saw no problem from their standpoint
and was in agreement with the areas which Braswell had indicated they
wanted covered.
11. I George Murphy, Joint Committee on Atomic
Energy staff, called and referred to the news accounts of the sentencing of
the British officer for spying and the expulsion of four East European diplomats
from Italy on spying charges. Murphy said he would like any information we
could give him on these cases having to do with atomic energy information or
the security of NATO.
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9. The Special Subcommittee on Intelligence
of the House Armed Services Committee, chaired by Representative
Nedzi, continued its hearings on H. R. 9853 concerning the classification
and protection of information. The witness was Ralph Erickson, Assistant
Attorney General, Office of Legal Counsel, Department of Justice. Mr.
Erickson traced the legal basis for the authority of the Executive to classify.
He maintained the position that this is a matter for the Executive rather
than the Legislature. He hoped that the new Executive Order would resolve
most of the problems presently faced. He considered the role of Congress
to be one of exercising oversight and urging that the Congress monitor
carefully the implementation of the new Order. He related the position of
the Justice Department that H. R. 9853 was unnecessary and duplicative of
the efforts to be taken in the areas of classification and release of informa-
tion. Mr. Erickson acknowledged the discrepancy within the existing criminal
laws to protect against unauthorized disclosures and stated that specific
proposals are under consideration by the Administration and should be
submitted to the Congress in the near future. Mr. Buzhardt, General
Counsel, _Department of Defense, will continue testimony tomorrow on
those actions within DOD to implement the new Executive Order.
10. Discussed with Ed Braswell, Chief
Counsel, Senate Armed Services Committee, the plans for the Director's
appearance before the Agency Subcommittee to discuss our budget. I
explained we would much prefer Thursday to Wednesday. Braswell later
called back to say that they would not schedule the meeting before Thursday.
11. I (Called Miss Ward, in the office of
Senator John Stennis, to make an appointment for General Walters to pay
a courtesy call on the Senator. She said she would see what she could do.
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Braswell showed me a copy which he had of
Senator Symington's letter of 1 March 1972 transmitting the Moose /Lowenstein
report to Chairman Fulbright. Braswell was particularly interested in that part
of the letter which referred to the lack of oversight over the Agency by either the
CIA Subcommittee or the full Senate Armed Services Committee and recommending
that Fulbright assert jurisdiction under section 407 of the Foreign Aid Authoriza-
tion bill of 1972 (P. L. 92-226). I reminded Braswell of the discussion which took
place on the floor of the Senate when Senator Stennis offered an amendment to this
section which limited Foreign Relations' jurisdiction to those matters "within the
jurisdiction of the Committee" and Fulbright's statement at the time that he had
no intention to use the provisions of this section in matters within the jurisdiction
of the Armed Services Committee.
I returned to Braswell the Committee's copy of the testimony of Nutter,
Seignious, Brazier, and Sullivan before the Committee on 7 March. I told him
I had made a copy of the transcript for the Director's review and said the
Director and the rest of us very much appreciated having access to this transcript.
I briefed Braswell on a number of current intelligence developments.
See Memorandum for the Record.
I talked briefly with Braswell about our interest in H. R. 9900, a bill which
would amend the Internal Revenue Code to provide tax benefits for certain persons
in a prisoner of war or missing status. This bill is pending before the Senate
Finance Committee and Braswell suggested I talk with the Chief Counsel of that
staff, Tom Vail.
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6. n the office of Personnel, called
about an inquiry which had been carectea o the Pentagon by Representative
John S. Monagan (D. , Conn.) concerning the Downey case. nd I 25X1
agreed that if Defense can answer Monagan's inquiry without involving the
Agency and without making a statement which is untrue it would be best for
the reply to come from them. However, we agreed that if there should be
any difficulty about this, this office would get in touch with Monagan and
advise him of Agency interest in the case.
7. Delivered a copy of the China Atlas to
Dorothye Scott, in the office of the Secretary of the Senate.
8. Met with David Dittman, in the office
of Senator Ted Stevens (R. , Alaska), concerning their inquiry on behalf of a
former applicant, and left with him a copy of a letter from
arranging for
an interview in the field. Mr. Dittman
said that nothing further need be done.
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1. Met separately with Messrs. Frank Slatinshek
and John Ford, House Armed Services Committee staff, and gave them the
final draft of the unclassified paper entitled "A Comparison of the US and
Soviet Defense Efforts. " This paper was originally requested by Chairman
Hebert at the Director's 8 February briefing. It will be used by the Committee
called and said that
to testify before the
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told him that he would relay the offer. S, has been
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would be available next Friday, 17 March, if the Agency
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from Representative Les Aspin (D. , Wis. ) for a coordinated CIA/DIA briefing
on the Soviet navy and that we are responding to the effect that such briefings
by long-standing procedure must be coordinated through the Armed Services
Committee of which he is a member. told me that their office 25X1
has not received such a request. They would not respond should such a request be
received without checking first with Frank Slatinshek, Assistant Chief Counsel
of the Committee. Mr. Geissen appreciated the call.
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Senator Mike Mansfield (D., Mont.), about the letter from
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to ascertain the status of this crew during his visit to China. I advised
Mrs. Curtin that we were looking into this situation and hoped to have something
for them soon. She thanked me for calling and said she would note her file to
this effect.
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5. Made arrangements with Ed Braswell and
Jack Ticer, Senate Armed Services Committee staff, to borrow a copy of
the testimony of Nutter, Sullivan, Brazier, and Siegnious before the
Committee last Tuesday, 7 March, on the Southeast Asia free world forces
provision of the Military Procurement Act. They understand we will make
a copy of this transcript for the Director's review, but the fact that we have
made copies of this transcript should not be disclosed outside of the Agency.
We will return the Committee copy tomorrow.
to his letter to te Director requesting a briefing on Soviet naval matters.
See Memo for Record.
7. I Discussed above with Frank Slatinshek,
Assistant Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, who appreciated
our problem and reiterated that the briefing should be coordinated with the
Committee.
8. The Special Subcommittee on Intelligence
of the House Armed bervices chaired by Representative Nedzi
(D. , Mich. ), continued their hearings on H. R. 9853 concerning the classifica-
tion and protection of information vital to the national security. Witnesses
were Mr. Joseph Liebling, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense (Security
Policy), and Mr. Fred Buzhardt, General Counsel, Department of Defense.
Mr. Liebling provided a statement on those actions taken by the DOD to
better their security program and to project future actions to meet the
objectives of the new Executive Order on classification and declassification
which was issued yesterday. The Subcommittee continued their detailed
questioning of Mr. Buzhardt concerning Department of Defense security
policy and other matters in his statement. Mr. William Blair, Assistant
Secretary of State, is scheduled to testify tomorrow. Mr. Ralph E. Erickson,
Assistant Attorney General, Department of Justice, is scheduled to testify
on Monday, 13 March. He will undoubtedly be questioned in detail on the
new Executive Order since the Department of Justice is responsible for
interpreting the Order.
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House Armed Services Committee, and discussed with him the general
question of responses to queries raised on different occasions by Representative
Sonny Montgomery (D. , Miss. ). In brief, Mr. Blandford suggested that
this is a matter that might best be handled through Chairman Hebert if need
arises sinces it appears to fall fairly completely within the context of Committee
responsibility. At present, at least, it is his opinion that direct'responses are
not necessary.
2. Met with Mrs. Mary Bruner, Secretary to
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Representative Allen in responding to the letter of 29 February from
the Congressional Record, the press, congressional hearings, etc. for use by
Miss Bruner told me the material provided was
letter of 6 March to the Director would be necessary.
more than sufficient and tat no further response to Representative Smith's 25X1
I briefed Mr. Preston on the following items: Cambodian /North Vietnam
negotiations, deployment of Communist forces in eastern Cambodia, ChiCom
Mao-class attack submarine and missile site in south central China; a Soviet
bomber, short range ballistic missile system, SS-NX-8 missile, and Soviet
naval facilities at Cienfuegos.
4. Mr. Tweedy and I met with Russ Blandford,
Chief Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, prior to our session with
Representative Durward Hall (R., Mo. ), see below.
5. Accompanied Mr. Tweedy in meeting Dr. Hall
(R., Mo.) in response to a query to the Director about certain problems within
the intelligence community. See Memo for Record.
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6. Following up on his conversation with
Mr. Maury, I called Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel, Senate Armed Services
Committee, about my reviewing the transcript of the testimony of Nutter,
Seignious, Brazier, and Sullivan on the military procurement legislation
yesterday. Braswell said the reporting firm has gotten backed up in getting
their transcripts out and indicated it would be tomorrow at the earliest before
it would be available.
this Friday or next Monday and I was sure would be interested in paying a
courtesy call on Chairman Stennis. Braswell suggested we make these
arrangements directly with Miss Mildred Ward in the Senator's office.
I raised with Braswell the general question of John Poster's people
advising Hyman Fine, of the Armed Services Ad Hoc Subcommittee on
Research and Development staff, of Agency involvement in one of Foster's
contracts. Braswell said Fine was a responsible staff employee and he
saw no objection so long as the briefing of Fine did not involve discussion
of Agency activities. I passed this on to DDS&T, with the 25X1
I mentioned to Braswell that General Walters would be in town either
suggestion that Fine's clearances be checked if the discussion would involve
compartmented information. In this connection I mentioned that we had been
unable to verify through o'ur channels that Fin-had such clearances although
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8 March 1972.)
9. The Special Subcommittee on Intelligence
of the House Armed Services Committee, chaired by Representative
Nedzi (D., Mich.), began its hearings on H. R. 9853. The Bill would
establish a national commission on the classification and protection of
information vital to the national security. The first witness was Mr.
Fred Buzhardt, General Counsel, Department of Defense. Mr. Buzhardt
furnished a statement on the major changes in the Executive Order on
classification and declassification issued on March 8, 1972, which super-
seded Executive Order 10501. (See Memorandum for the Record -
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ould prefer not to testify before the Senate Internal Security
u commiittee principally because he felt he had given the Subcommittee all
the information he had on the Soviet propaganda mechanism. uggested, 25X1
however, that if David Martin, of the Subcommittee staff, wis ed to draft
us to a personnel case which had become troublesome and which has come vy v
to the attention of the staff of Representative Clement Zablocki (D. , Wis. ).
Zablocki's Administrative Assistant, George Berdes, has contacted the State
Department on the case and the response will be provided through State. If
the situation should become more troublesome, however, or if there is an
indication of personal interest on the part of the Congressman, it was agreed
that the Agency should speak directly to Zablocki about our interest,
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12. I Left at the office of Representative Robert L. F.
Sikes a recent FBIS study on foreign reactions to the President's China trip,
in which Sikes had previously expressed interest.
13. Left a copy of the China atlas at the office
of Representative J. Kenneth Robinson.
14. Talked to Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel,
Senate Armed Services Committee, regarding today's appearance of
G. Warren Nutter and Maj. Gen. George Seignious, both of ISA, and
Don Brazier, DOD Comptroller, and William H. Sullivan, of State Department
on the Defense Procurement Authorization bill. See Memo for Record.
15. David Abshire, Assistant Secretary of State
for Congressional Relations, called to say they were deeply concerned over
the possibility that the Secretary would be asked, during his appearance
tomorrow before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, about studies
concerning RFE and Radio Liberty, and the cost of their termination, which
the Committee had requested. I told Abshire that I understood that all concerned
had agreed Chairman Fulbright should be provided a copy of the latest study
.on the termination costs, but I was not familiar with the contents of various
other studies concerning the Radios and thought this would have to be discussed
betwee. of the Agency, and Mr. Baker, of State, who were
already in touch in this regard. Abshire suggested that if queried about
additional studies the Secretary should refer Fulbright to the Agency. I
said I thought we would object to this, since we had washed our hands of
the Radios and I thought any contact with the Committee in this regard
should be through the Department and Office of Management and Budget.
I said I would ask to call Mr. Baker immediately, which I
he and a er a agreed that, if pressed by Fulbright for additional studies
other than the one on termination costs, the Secretary should simply say
that he would have to take this up with the Agency, said 25X1
Mr. Baker apparently had not been successful in selling this solution
to Mr. Abshire.
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8. of DOD. called to say that 25X1
Defense had run into problems in connection with the paper which they had
prepared on "Strategic Alternatives in Future Chinese Military Planning"
in response to Senator Proxmire's (I , Wis.) request for such a contribution
to be included in the Joint Economic Committee's upcoming study on China.
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said that their security review people had referred this to interested
offices for clearance and indicated that the State Department, the Joint Chiefs
of Staff, and ISA have all informally nonconcurred in having this study
submitted to the Committee at this point in time in view of the current status
of relationships between the U. S. and Communist China, asked if we had 25X1
run into any similar problems in the preparation of our materials. I told him
that I thought all of the studies we had prepared were rather noncontroversial
in comparison to the one prepared by DOD and I indicated that to the best of
m knowledge all of our papers had been submitted to the Library of Congress.
merely wanted to check to see if the Agency had a similar problem so 25X1
the DDI's office, of this conversation.)
that we could join forces in resolving it. (I have advised of 25X1
9. I Called Representative Louis C. Wyman (R. , N. H. )
and told him of my New Hampshire trip regarding the Jessie Gill case. He
seemed quite satisfied.
10. I Introduced Russ Blandford, Chief Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, who gave a lively talk to the Agency's
Advanced Intelligence Seminar on our relations with Congress. Blandford noted
that the Agency was coming in for more and more critical scrutiny, primarily
as a result of such questions as our involvement in Laos. He complimented
the Agency on its reputation for candor and leveling with the Committee, and
gave us assurances that if this policy continued we could count on Committee
support. He noted current concern in the Committee about overclassification
and deplored the irresponsible tendency of all Executive agencies to overclassify
everything, which he said created far more security problems than it solved.
11, I Briefed Russ Blandford and Frank Slatinshek, House
Armed Services Committee staff, on recent developments regarding Soviet
strategic missiles, both land-based and submarine based, new type Soviet
aircraft, TU-16s in Egypt, and ChiCom missile facilities.
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Staff Director, House Post Office and Civil Service Committee, who told me
that the Administration bill for Federal Executive Service, H. R. 3807, will
be reported out after hearings by the Subcommittee. The Administration is
putting quite a bit of emphasis on passage of the bill. A meeting with
Mr. Bray to brief him on Agency consideration relating to the bill is
tentatively scheduled for 13 or 14 March. Mr. John Warner, OGC, and
23. Lisa Gerard, in the Office of Manage- STAT
ment and budget, called to ask it Chairman Nedzi had requested our testimony
on H. R. 9853, the Hebert/Arends bill establishing a Security Commission,
explaining that Mr. Buzhardt, Department of Defense, is scheduled to testify
on 8 and 9 March, State on the 10th, and Justice on the 13th. She said the word
around OMB is that the revised Executive order on classification will be issued
either today or tomorrow.
I reminded Miss Gerard that the Armed Services Committee was our
oversight committee and explained their interest in testimony from the Director
on the unique problems in the intelligence field, but that this runs against the long-
standing policy that the Director not testify for the public record. I said one
development might be an informal meeting with the Committee to brief them on
the areas in which they are interested. I told her that until this is sorted out, it
did not look like we would be taking a position on the bill, but that if the bill is
going to move, we would most likely have to ask for some protection. She
asked that we keep in touch as matters develop and I said we would.
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16. Talked to Mr. John Garrity, House
Appropriations Committee staff, nd asked him if he had any further informa-
tion concerning who had been recommended for
employment by Representative Jamie Whitten (D. , Miss. ). Mr. Garrity
told me he would again check with Mr. Robert Foster, of the Committee staff,
who is handling the case for Representative Whitten and be back in touch.
17. In response to his call I met with
Mr. George Norris, House Armed Services Committee staff, and received
from him an application for employment for his daughter
who was interviewed) luring her recent visit to Washington
18. Met with Mrs. Barbara Raver, Administrative
Assistant to epresentativ George orge A. Goodling (R.. Pa. ), and gave her a copy
of the FBIS subscription application for use for a constituent.
19. Delivered to Miss Ann Gordon, in the office
of Representative Earl F. Landgrebe (R. , Ind. ), a copy of the "People's
Republic of China" atlas.
20. Met with Miss Fran Christy, House
Judiciary Committee staff, who told me that H. R. 2076, a bill for the relief
of was passed over today on the private calendar.
She indicated the only possible explanation at the moment would be that one of
the "unofficial objectors, " Representative H. R. Gross (R. , Iowa), or some
other might have objected to several of the bills on the private calendar. She
will have Mr. Cline, Counsel for the Committee, check the matter and take
care of whatever the problem is before the next calling of the private calendar
on 21 March. WH Division, has been advised.
21. I I The Intelligence Subcommittee of House
Armed Services Committee will begin hearings tomorrow in open session on
the classification and handling of information involving the national security
and H. R. 9853. Mr. J. Fred Buzhardt, Department of Defense, will be the
witness on 8 and 9 March, and a representative from the Department of
State on 10 March. Mr. Ralph Erickson, Office of Assistant Attorney -
Office of Legal Counsel, Department of Justice, is scheduled to appear on
Monday, 13 March.
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Mr. Al Tarabochia furnished to me for Agency review a copy of a
log which was kept by an American fisherman who had recently observed
the movement of Cuban fishing boats. Mr. Tarabochia said he would be
pleased to provide further assistance in this matter if desired.
10. Mr. Arthur Kelly, from the Rochester
office of Representative Frank Horton (R., N. Y. ), called in behalf of a
constituent who inquired as to how he could contact a representative of
the Agency. I provided Mr. Kelly the Washington, D. C. address and
suggested that Mr. Kelly advise the constituent to write the Agency and
indicate the nature of his interest. If it was for employment, the Agency
would handle the necessary follow-up. Mr. Kelly asked for and was given
the name and address of the Agency recruiter who covers his area. He
asked for this information since he receives a number of such inquiries
and was most appreciative.
11. I I Left the Special Memorandum
prepared by FBIS on foreign radio and press reaction to the President's
trip to China with Louise lovino, on the staff of Senator James L. Buckley
(R., N. Y. ), as she had requested.
12. Left a China Atlas with Judy Hoffman,
from the office of Senator Gaylord Nelson (D. , Wis. ), per her request.
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4. 1 I Mr. Robert Hull, Department of State,
called to report that the Office of Management and Budget had agreed with
Treasury on the definition of "unfunded liability" with respect to financing
retirement systems and that only "past" unfunded liability would be subject
to the graduated interest payments by Treasury. OMB has asked State to
come up with a proposal for funding the portion of "normal costs" not
covered by present employer /employee contribtuions. Hull said that he
understands that OMB intends to apply the same criteria to the CIA system.
One solution proposed by OMB would be merger of the Foreign Service
retirement system with the Civil Service retirement system. In response
to my request, Hull said he would send me a copy of the paper he is pulling
together on this general subject and it was agreed that somewhere down the
line, when more of the facts are sorted out, it might be well for the managers
of our respective retirement systems to get together to determine what joint
action might be in our mutual interest. (See Memorandum for .the Record
of 27 January 1972. )
5. I I Visited Manchester, New Hampshire
regarding the Jessie Gill case. See Memo for the Record.
7. Richard Kimmel, on the staff of the Joint
Committee on Atomic Energy, called to say that the transcript of the
Director's briefing of 16 February was ready for us to pick up and correct.
I told him I would be by for it on Monday.
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cruise-type submarine, new silo construction, TU-16
1. I Met with Mr. Ralph Preston, House Appropriations
Committee staff, who told me that he has reviewed in detail with the Chairman
the plans for the Director's briefing on the community budget and the component
briefings following therefrom and has received the Chairman's endorsement.
He told me also that a major Defense component representative visited the
Committee yesterday and asked to make a joint presentation with the DCI.
This was refused.
As for the scheduled visit to Headquarters by Messrs. Preston and
Woodruff, Senate Appropriations Committee staff, Mr. Preston will not be
able to attend until some time close to 20 April. The Friday's in the interim
that will be free from Committee briefings will be scheduled fully in preparation
for the hearings for the succeeding week.
Mr. Preston reviewed the draft response to Representative Evins'
(D. , Tenn.) letter that was discussed with him on Tuesday. It meets with
his full approval.
I briefed Mr. Preston on the following items: ChiCom Mao-class
submarine, and delivery of MIG-19s to North Korea; Soviet SH-04 ABM,
A-class nuclear attack submarine, nuclear storage facility in east Europe,
naval vessels enroute to Cuba, the disabled H-2 class nuclear powered
evidence of any such agreement.
2. I I Received a call from Dorothy Fosdick, Staff
Director, Subcommittee on National Security and International Operations of
the Senate Government Operations Committee, who asked if any information
is available about a rumored agreement between the Soviet Union and the
government of Japan for the construction of a sea-level canal in Panama.
After checking with OCI, I told Miss Fosdick that we have no
3. I Received a call from Judy, in the office of
Senator Gaylord Nelson (D., Wis. ), requesting a China Atlas. I told her
someone would come by in the next few days with the Atlas.
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8. In the absence of Russ Blandford, Chief
Counsel, House Armed Services Committee, and Bill Woodruff, Counsel,
Senate Appropriations Committee, I called their offices and left word with
their secretaries that General Walters' nomination would be announced today.
9. I I Talked to Joe Wolf, State Department, about
the Lowenstein /Moose report to the Symington Subcommittee of Senate
Foreign Relations Committee on Southeast Asia. Wolf said he had been
over the report, as had of FE, and Wolf proposed allowing
their complaints about uncooperative responses about intelligence matters to
go unchallenged. I passed this on to Chief, FE who did not share this view
and said he would be back in touch with Wolf.
10. Called Pat Holt, Senate Foreign Relations
Committee staff, to say our efforts to run down had been 25X1
unsuccessful. Holt said he was concerned about the matter, adding that he
had checked with State Department and found a number of discrepancies
between the Department's passport and visa records and the records of the
institute which was working for regarding recent travels. 25X1
I suggested Holt might want to get in touch with the FBI which he said he might
do.
11. I I Tom Lattimer called from the White House to
say that Henry as en, a White House "politico", had called Kissinger's office
about an applicant for a job in the Agency who had apparently had strong
political backing, possibly from Representative Lea Arends. I told Lattimer
to get me the candidate's name and I would make sure that Personnel followed
up with an interview.
office concerning employment with Air America. I gave 25X1
Air America's "K" Street address, suggested to him that the epresentative's
office contact Air America directly, and refreshed his recollection that Air
America's two largest sources of contract business are the Defense Department
and AID. He thanked me and said he would respond along the lines suggested.
He sees no need of any mention of the Agency but would want guidance before
responding.
DIA, who told me that he had an inquiry from Representative Ashbrook's
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