JOURNAL OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL

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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Tuesday - 30 May 1972
1. I I Talked with J. Sourwine, Chief Counsel,
Senate Internal Security Subcommittee, about our interest in trying to
assist in obtaining some type of employment even
if it is something less than a full-time highly paid position. It appears
there are no openings on the Subcommittee staff for which might
be considered, but Sourwine said he knew of several people that he could
speak to on 0 behalf. He assured me he would let me know if he
was able to develop any interest.
2. I I Called Ralph Preston, Staff Assistant, House
Appropriations Committee, for clarification as to plans for the Director's
1 June appearance before the Special Group.
3. Ralph Preston called to say he had talked
with Chairman Mahon and the Chairman has decided he would like to have the
Director brief the Special Group on the Agency budget at 2:00 p.m. on
Thursday, 1 June, following his morning session with the Group on the
intelligence community budget.
and call us back.
had mentioned this to Ed Braswell, of the Committee staff, and there was some
thought Senator Stennis might like to meet Qand invite a few interested
members to meet him. Goldsmith said he would discuss this with Braswell
schedule was free during the late afternoon of Thursday, 8 June. I said
4. John Goldsmith, Senate Armed Services
Committee staff, called to say he would like or me to drop by STAT
tomorrow morning to discuss a problem the Committee is having in mark up of 25X1
the Southeast Asian procurement bill. He said they were getting conflicting and
confusing figures from DOD, especially regarding and STAT
also regarding a separate item they were not able to explain. 25X1
I reminded Goldsmith that Owould be in town next week and his
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Thursday - 25 May 1972
4. The Director called Senators Stennis and
Young to thank them for their work on the Senate floor yesterday in support
of Senator Scott's amendment striking section 504(a) of the Foreign Relations
Authorization Act of 1972 (S. 3526) and urged them and their colleagues to
support.Senator Baker's amendment on the floor today which would strike
section 205 of the bill concerning dissemination of information abroad. OLC
members also contacted the following Senator's offices: Hollings, Dominick,
Byrd of Virginia, Allott, Jackson, and Spong as well as Bill Woodruff, Counsel,
Senate Appropriations Comrnitttee. Senator Baker's amendment passed the
Senate by a vote of 42-26.
I called Bob Mosbacher, Legislative Assistant to Senator Baker, to
congratulate him and the Senator on their success this morning and to thank
them on their efforts in our behalf. I took this opportunity to invite Mosbacher
to visit us for lunch in the near future. He said he would like very much to
come out.
5. Accompanied the Director and Messrs.
Duckett, DDS&T, and Carver, SAVA, to a briefing of the Intelligence
Special Group of the House Appropriations Committee. See Memorandum
for the Record.
6. Carl Duckett and I attended a joint meeting of
LIG and SALT representatives in the Cabinet Room of the White House.
See Memorandum for the Record.
7. Called Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel, Senate
Armed Services Committee, to thank him for his assistance in connection
with amendments to the Foreign Relations Authorization Act of 1972 (S. 3526).
8. Charles Hamel, in the office of Senator
Mike Gravel (D., Alaska), called to complain of the Agency's having
"botched" the handling of whom Gravel had asked 25X1
us to get in touch with. I said I would look into it.
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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Thursday - 25 May 1972
I. I I In the absence of Senator Harry Byrd, STAT
I talked to his Administrative Assistant, Forrest Rettgers, regarding the
Baker amendment to the Foreign Relations Authorization Act of 1972 (S. 3526).
This amendment would strike from the bill a provision restricting the
dissemination of information abroad which would be of serious concern to the
Agency. Rettgers said he would pass my message to Senate Byrd, who was
presently in a committee hearing, as soon as he could get in touch with him.
2. Called Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel and STAT
Staff Director, Senate Armed Services Committee, and in his absence explained
to Jack Ticer, of the Committee staff, that the Director just talked to Senator
Stennis regarding the motion by Senator Baker to strike from the Foreign
Relations Authorization Bill (S. 3526) Section 205 which would restrict the
dissemination of information abroad by Federal agencies. I told Ticer that
Senator Stennis had told the Director that he was sympathetic to our problem
and would like us to provide Ed Braswell with appropriate backup material.
I said we had already provided such material but if Braswell wanted us to
provide anything additional he should let us know promptly. Shortly afterward
Ticer called back and said he'd mentioned the foregoing to Braswell and
Braswell said he had all the information he needed.
3. In the absence of Senator Gordon Allott STAT
I talked to Jack Ware, his Administrative Assistant, whom lasked to thank the
Senator in behalf of the Director for his support yesterday on the motion by
Senator Scott to strike the troublesome amendment from the Foreign Relations
Authorization Act of 1972 (S. 3526).
I told Ware that the Agency was also concerned about another amendment
which Senator Baker planned to move against today- -Section 205, which would
restrict the dissemination of information abroad by Federal agencies. I said
we'd greatly appreciate Senator Allott's support in this matter, and Ware said
he would convey our concern to the Senator and indicated the Senator would
probably be glad to help us.
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CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY
Office of Legislative Counsel
Washington, D. C. 20505
24 May 1972
Telephone: [phone]
TO: Mr. T. Edward Braswell
Chief Counsel
Senate Committee on Armed Services
Attached is a copy of Albert Bryan's
opinion granting a permanent injunction in the
Marchetti case. The Director would be grateful
if you would call it to the attention of the Chairman
and tell the Chairman how much he appreciates the
Chairman's interest and encouragement in the
handling of this matter. We think this opinion is
something of a judicial milestone and hope it will
have a useful effect in the future.
John M. Maury
Legislative Counsel
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Wednesday - 24 May 1972
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6. Ralph Preston, House Appropriations
Committee staff, called shortly before lunch and said Chairman Mahon
would like to talk with the Director about the possibility of the Agency
giving the House Appropriations Committee Special Group on Intelligence
a briefing at 11 a. m. tomorrow. The Director subsequently talked with
Mahon and agreed to his request.
Stennis and a selected group of Senators was
8 June after 3 p. m.
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to meet with Senators
on the afternoon of Thursday,
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8. and I met with Mr. Robert 25X1
Mosbacher, Legislative Assistant to Senator Howard Baker (R., Tenn.),
and provided him with the test of a fall-back position on the dissemination
of information provision (section 205) of S. 3526 in the event the Senator is
defeated on his amendment to strike the entire section. We discussed the
strategy for the handling of this amendment which will come up on the Senate
floor tomorrow afternoon. Mr. Mosbacher said he would like someone to
be just off the Senate floor to give him advice and assistance if he should
need it and arrangements have been made with USIA to provide this assistance.
9. Following our meeting with Mosbacher, I
talked with Mr. Marshall Wright, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for
Congressional Relations, Colonel L. J. Dalferes, Deputy Assistant to the
Secretary of Defense (Legislative Affairs), and Mr. Eugene Kopp, USIA, in
an effort to increase everyone's efforts to obtain support for this amendment
and Senator Scott's amendment to strike section 405(a) of the bill which would
impose a 10 percent cut on U. S. personnel abroad.
10. and I met with Mr. Ed Braswell,25X1
Chief Counsel, Senate Armed Services Committee, and urged him to make
every effort to get support from Committee members for the Scott and Baker
amendments to S. 3526. We pointed out that passage of the Scott amendment
striking all of section 405(a) would make it unnecessary for Senator Stennis
to have to request a special exemption for the Agency. Braswell said he would
weigh in on this and would ask Stennis to solicit all the support he could on
the floor also.
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Monday - 22 May 1972
11. Met with Sam Goldberg, Legislative Assistant
to Senator Charles McC. Mathias (R., Md.), to obtain Senator Mathias' support
for the Scott amendment to strike section 504(a) of S. 3526. Goldberg said he
thought the Senator would be sympathetic both to the Scott amendment and to our
position on the dissemination oI information provision (section 205) of this bill
which I had also discussed with him. He pointed out, however, the Senator
would be out of town from tomorrow until 4 June and therefore he would be
unable to cast a vote if either of these amendments came up during that period.
12. Mr. Maury and I met with Senator Ernest
Hollings (D. , S. C.) to solicit his support for Senator Scott's amendment to
strike section 504(a) of S. 3526. The Senator asked a number of pertinent
questions both as to why the Agency should not be cut and why he should support
the amendment to strike all of this section. He seemed particularly persuaded
by the judicial argument which we presented that this added to an encroachment
by the Foreign Relations Committee on judicial responsibility of other committees
(such as the Senate Armed Services and Appropriations Committees) in making
cuts in the personnel departments and agencies under their jurisdiction. The
Senator said he would support both Senator Scott's amendment and the proposal
by Senator Stennis to exempt CIA from this section if the Scott amendment fails
to pass the Senate.
13. Received a call from Charles Ablard, General
Counsel, USIA, who said they have been talking with Mr. Bob Mosbacher,
Legislative Assistant to Senator Howard Baker (R., Tenn.), about the Senator's
amendment to strike section 205 of S. 3526 having to do with the dissemination
of information abroad by U. S. Government agencies. Ablard suggested we
contact Mosbacher and see if we can be of any assistance to him.
Mr. Maury and I visited with Bob Mosbacher who said they thought of
calling up the Senator's amendment the latter part of this week but he was having
second thoughts about this since he has some concern about the support they will
get on the floor. We agreed it would be wise to hold off a few days on this if
possible in an effort to try to get more favorable votes. Mosbacher said he had
the feeling Senator Cooper might be sympathetic to the position of USIA, CIA
and others concerning this section and suggested we talk with Senator Cooper
and sound him out on this. He said if Cooper seems at all sympathetic, Senator
Baker will follow up on this in an effort to gain his support for Baker's amend-
ment. He also said David Abshire, Assistant Secretary of State for Congres-
sional Relations, would be asked to contact Senator Aiken in support of the
Baker amendment. Meanwhile Mosbacher asked if we would provide him with
the language we have already developed modifying section 205, as reported by
the Foreign Relations Committee, in order to meet the requirements of USIA
and CIA in case Senator Baker needs this as a fallback position. We told him
ve would get this material to him.
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Friday - 19 May 1972
20. In accordance with Circular A-19
instructions, advised Ralph Malvik, in the Office of Management and Budget,
of Mr. Helms' 18 May letter to Chairman Stennis on section 504(a) of the
Foreign Relations Authorization Act of 1972 (S. 3526), explaining that the
Senate Armed Services Committee had made an urgent request for a letter
concerning the implications of the 10 per cent overseas personnel reduction
on the Agency. In response to his request, a copy of the letter was sent to
STATINTL Mr. Malvik. OPPB, was advised.
21. I Returned the earlier call of Miss Rhoda
Kachilo, in the office of Representative John Dent (D., Pa.), to the Map
Library, OBGI, for a copy of the China Atlas and explained the situation.
Miss Kachilo said no extra effort for Mr. Dent was necessary as the request
was being made for a constituent.
22. Called Mr. William Hawley, in the
Office of Management and Budget, concerning the proposed Executive order
on advisory committees, which he had sent to us at our requests to discuss
the different treatment accorded "Presidential committees," such as PFIAB,
and other "advisory committees. " Mr. Hawley explained that he was not a
lawyer, but it was the intent to bring all committees under OMB management,
and in response to my question, he said he thought it would be too late if we
had adverse comments as the Executive order had just cleared the Department
of Justice enroute to the President.
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23. Jo-Anne Coe, in the office of Senator Robert STAT
Dole (R. , Kans. ), called and requested an employment interview for a constituent,
After checking with Office of STATINTL
STAT
Personnel, I advised her that an appointment has been.scheduled for next
Thursday, 25 May, at 2:30.
JOHN M. MAURY
Legislative Counsel
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JOURNAL
OFFICE OF LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL
Friday - 19 May 1972
1. I I Talked to a group of Capitol Hill Reserve
Officers on an "off-the-record" basis regarding the Agency. Interest was
expressed in our security situation and I took advantage of the opportunity
to point out the inadequacy of the espionage laws in dealing with certain types of
security cases. Representative Craig Hosmer of California, who was a
member of the group, commented that maybe something could be done about
this in the next session.
2. Met with Frank Slatinshek, Chief Counsel,
House Armed Services Committee, and reminded him that we wished to be
sure that none of the transcript of Mr. Houston's and my testimony before
the Nedzi Subcommittee on 9 May was made public. Slatinshek indicated he
could take care of this.
3. Discussed with Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel,
Senate Armed Services Committee the problem of the ten percent cut in
overseas personnel called for in one of the amendments to the Foreign Relations
Authorization Act (S. 3526). ' Braswell pointed out that the White House strategy
calling for a motion by Senator Scott to strike the entire provision in question,
involved certain hazards. He said if this motion is defeated, it will then be more
difficult to get exemptions for individual agencies such as CIA. However, the
White House has made up its mind and we agreed there was nothing much we could
do at this stage but try to pitch in and get all our friends alerted to support
Senator Scott's proposal.
Braswell asked me to get Bruce Clarke to provide him with a piece of
paper covering some points regarding the vulnerability of Soviet targets to a
Poseidon attack (he and Mr. Clarke have informally discussed this on a previous
occasion, and Mr. Clarke understands what is wanted).
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Friday - 19 May 1972
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11. Marshall Wright, Deputy Assistant Secretary
of State for Congressional Relations, called to say Tom Korologos, of the White
House, has been in touch with Senator Hugh Scott's (R., Pa.) office and believes
the Senator will introduce an amendment to the Foreign Relations Authorization
Act of 1972 (S. 3526) striking section 504(a) which would impose a 10 percent
personnel cut on U. S. personnel abroad. Wright suggested we get in touch
with Scott's office and support this move with whatever material we could
provide them and then make our contacts on the Hill to line up votes.
12. Talked with Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel,
Senate Armed Services Committee. about Marshall Wright's call. Braswell
said the White House had called him at home last night about Senator Scott's
introducing the amendment to strike the 10 percent personnel cut. He said
Senator Stennis had planned to introduce his amendment to exempt the Agency
from this cut, but was unable to do so. In view of the Scott arrangement, he
said they would hold off on the Agency exemption until they see whether the
motion to strike is successful.
13. Made final arrangements with Scott Cohen,
Executive Assistant to Senator Charles H. Percy (R., Ill. ), for his talk to
the Advanced Intelligence Seminar on the Hill at 2 p. m. on Monday, 22 May.
Bill Woodruff, Counsel, Senate Appropriations Committee, has made one
of their Committee rooms available for the meeting, Room 1318.
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Thursday - 18 May 1972
3. Talked with Marshall Wright, Deputy
Assistant Secretary of State for Congressional Relations, and expressed
our concern over the unilateral move by Senator Bellmon yesterday in
obtaining an exemption for the Department of Agriculture from the provisions
of section 504(a) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act of 1972 (S. 3526).
I told Wright that Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel, Senate Armed Services Com-
mittee, was proceeding with his efforts to have Senator Stennis obtain a
specific exemption for CIA. See Memorandum for the Record.
4. I Advised George Murphy, Joint Committee
on Atomic Energy staff, that as of this date the Director's calendar for
13, 14, and 15 June would accommodate his appearance before the Committee
on one of those afternoons, but I told him this should not be construed as a
commitment for any of those dates. I added that when they decide on a specific
date to let us know and we would check it futher with the Director.
5. Ed Hartung, Minority Counsel, Senate
Appropriations Committee, told me the located in 25X1
in talking with someone from the Agency about their capabilities and Senator
Milton Young would like us to put the proper Agency people in touch with them.
I told Hartung I would check with our people and be back in touch with him
about arrangements for this.
and with representatives in the Washington area, is interested
6. I (Talked to Mrs. Gerry Myers, House
Post Office and Civil Service Committee, who told me that the Hanley Bill
(H. R. 11150), relating to the protection of rights of Federal employees, was
removed from the agenda late last night. No explanation was given for the
removal. The next meeting of the Committee in which this bill may be
considered will be 15 June 1972.
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Thursday 18 May 1972
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1Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel, Senate Armed
Services Committee, called the first thing this morning in connection with
_enate's action last night in.approving Senator Bellmon's amendment to
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section 5,04(a) of the Foreign Relations Authorization Act of 1972 (S. 3526)
exempting the Department of Agriculture from this section. Braswell said
the Bellmon amendment was brought up without prior notice and since Senator
Fulbright has indicated he would fight an amendment to delete all of section
504(a) Braswell was going ahead with the specific exemption for CIA. He
asked us to provide him with a letter to the Chairman signed by the Director
which could be used by Senator Stennis on the floor indicating the Director
was seriously concerned about the amendment, pointing out that overseas
personnel have already been cut by 20 percent since 1967, and that further
cuts would impair activities vital to the national security. Such a letter was
prepared, signed by the Director, and delivered to Braswell by mid-morning.
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Senators on the floor to follow the legislation and coordinate the Administration's
efforts. He made it clear he did not feel this was the responsibility either of
Senator Stennis or himself. Braswell said he would ask Senator Stennis to
submit the amendment for an Agency exemption today.
'We discussed several current developments with Braswell and advised
him that reports that mine sweepers were clearing Haiphong Harbor and
vessels had left the port were inaccurate but stemmed from the movement of
a German ship from one berth to another within the harbor area.
Braswell said he did not know how much it would affect the Agency
In discussing the personnel cut provision with Messrs. Maury an
swell ex ressed exasperation with the White House in not having
but it was fairly clear that developments would be moving rapidly on SALT.
2. Messrs. Maury and lunched with Bill STAT
Woodruff, Senate Appropriations Committee staff, and discussed a number of
current topics and briefed him on the facts pertaining to erroneous reports
that mines are being cleared from Haiphong Harbor.
Woodruff asked us to provide Senator Ellender with multiple copies
of a picture of interest to the Senator.
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Wednesday - 17 May 1972
5. I Tom Korologos, White House staff, called
in response to my call to his office yesterday to ask about the status of
amendments to the Foreign Relations Authorization Act in which the White
House is interested. I said that we had been in touch with Charles Ablard,
General Counsel USIA, to try to get a date with Senator Howard Baker but
without success and Ablard had sent to Baker's Legislative Assistant Jim
Jordan the package of material concerning the "dissemination of information"
amendment which had prepared. I said that since the
several other agencies affected by the amendment were taking no action I
didn't think it was wise for CIA to "step out front. " Therefore, I said as
far as we were concerned we would just as soon rely on the House, which
had passed a clean bill with provisions acceptable to us, to take care of our
interests in conference. Korologos agreed that this was the best course.
I asked Korologos where we stood on the "ten percent personnel
reduction" amendment. He said that Senator Henry Bellmon had complicated
matters by introducing an amendment providing an exemption only for the
Department of Agriculture. In response to Korologo's question, I said we
were in touch with Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel, Senate Armed Services
Committee, and thought Senator Stennis would go to bat for us. Korologos
seemed to think this was the best way of handling the "ten percent cut"
problem.
next day or two.
6. Bill Woodruff, Counsel, Senate Appropriations
Committee, called to say Chairman Ellender had some photographic work he
would like us to do for him and asked if or I would stop by in the STAT
7. I Met with Mr. William Hogan, House Armed
Services Committee staff, who told me he has received no word from Chairman
Nedzi, of the Intelligence Subcommittee, or Mr. Frank Slatinshek, Chief
Counsel of the Committee, since Mr. Maury's conversation of Monday, 15 May,
with Slatinshek concerning publication of the transcript of 9 May. Mr. Hogan
will advise me as soon as he hears anything.
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Thursday - 11 May 1972
13. Met with Mr. Frank Slatinshek, House Armed
Services Committee staff, whose appointment as Chief Counsel of the
Committee was announced yesterday by the Chairman, and discussed
briefly with him the handling of transcripts taken by the. Committee of
Agency testimony during the last week or so. Mr. Slatinshek reiterated
that Chairman Hebert wants a copy of all transcripts available in the
Committee for review. So far, not more than a year since the Chairman
first announced this policy to the members of the House, no requests have
been received . Nonetheless, Mr. Slatinshek noted once again that
whenever a response to a question or statement by the Director or an
Agency witness should not be retained in the record, the Director or
Agency witness should go off-the-record. I thanked Mr. Slatinshek for
the advice.
14. Accompanied Mr. George Carver, SAVA, to a
meeting with Senator Thomas F. Eagleton (D. , Mo.) and two of his senior
assistants, Messrs. Douglas J. Bennet and Bryan Atwood. Mr. Carver
updated the information provided earlier on the situation in Vietnam.
Although the meeting was interrupted by Senate roll calls, Mr. Carver was
able to follow his own format pretty much without interruption. The only
questions raised related to detail on matters stated by Mr. Carver. There
was no suggestion of any intelligence failure in any of the questions. There
are no followups from the meeting. The Senator appeared very satisfied
and was generous in his remarks to Mr. Carver about the briefing.
15. Met with Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel,
Senate Armed Services Committee, whom I showed a couple of briefing
papers and to whom I described the Soviet reaction to the President's
announcement regarding Indochina. I covered somewhat the same ground
with John Goldsmith, of the Committee staff. Neither Goldsmith nor
Braswell had encountered any serious complaints about "intelligence
failures" in connection with the current North Vietnam offensive.
16. I Met with Ralph Preston, House Appropriations
Committee staff, whom I briefed on recent developments regarding Indochina.
He assured me that he was aware of no significant complaints about
"intelligence failures, " adding that he distinctly recalled Agency briefings
which had pointed out communist preparations for a main force offensive.
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Thursday - 11 May 1972
1. Left with Bill Woodruff, Counsel, Senate Appro-
priations Committee, a memorandum from responding to 25X1
a question raised by Senator Young at the Director's briefing of the Senate
Appropriations Intelligence Operations Subcommittee on the community
budget last Friday.
2. Representative Gilbert Gude (R., Md.) was
unable to make our scheduled appointment and in his absence I talked with
Miss Barbara Bingley of his staff about a personnel case in which the Congress-
man has expressed interest. See Memorandum for the Record.
3. Accompanied of the DDS staff, on a visit with Mr. Sam Goldberg, in the office of Senator Charles McC.
Mathias (R., Md.), on a matter in which Goldberg had requested our assistance.
4. Met briefly with Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel,
Senate Armed Services Committee, who complained about a lack of coordination
by the White House in handling action on the State Authorization bill (S. 3526).
I mentioned to Braswell that Senator Belimon had introduced two amendments
along the lines which we had suggested regarding the 10 percent personnel cut
which would be imposed by section 504(a) of S. 3526 except that Bellmon's
amendment would provide specific exemption for Agriculture rather than CIA.
I mentioned that if a number of departments and agencies were seeking similar
exemptions there would be merit in combining their efforts in an attempt to
defeat section 504(a) entirely. Braswell seemed interested in this possibility.
5. In response to an earlier request from Judy,
in the office of Senator Gaylord Nelson (D. , Wis. ), I called his Executive
Assistant, Warren Sawall, to determine if the Senator himself has a need for
a copy of the China Atlas, explaining that our supply was depleted but that if
the Senator cannot wait for the GPO publication we would try to locate a copy
for him. Later, Mr. Sawall confirmed the Senator's direct, immediate interest.
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9. Talked to Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel,
Senate Armed Services Committee, about providing him with personal
access to certain publications. I said it was my understanding that the Director
and Chairman Stennis had agreed that Mr. Braswell could be shown two Agency
publications periodically on an eyes only basis. Braswell said it would be
very helpful if Jim Woolsey, of the Committee staff, could also have access
to these publications on the same basis. I said in this case the Director would
want to receive such a request directly from Stennis, and suggested that
Stennis might call the Director about it. Braswell said he would mention
this to the Chairman.
10. Received a call from Mr. Robert Ujevich,
American Law Division, Library of Congress, who asked if we could give him
citations to restrictive legislation affecting the Agency's statutory authority,
explaining that he was doing this for a Member. I told him that I was not in
the General Counsel's office and it would be beyond my function to provide
advice in this matter, but that there had been a number of provisions in recent
authorization and appropriation bills which sought to impose restrictions on
the activities of all Government agencies in Indochina. He then asked whether
there had been any legislation affecting the Agency's transfer of funds authority
as spelled out in section 5 of P. L. 81-110. I referred him to the Appropriations
Committees and he said the Committees had referred him to our office. He
told me that under the circumstances he thought he would suggest to his con-
gressional client that he either go directly to the Appropriations Committees or
the Agency for his answer. I suggested that he may wish to consult the legis-
lative history of P. L. 110 for its principal purpose which was to provide
for the secure funding of the Agency, and his apparent lack of success in obtaining
information merely points out that the secure system approved by Congress is
working.
Mr. Ujevich said that he had learned from members of the Foreign
Affairs Division that liaison arrangements were being worked out with CIA
but that none existed. I told him I would provide him with a point of contact.
Later, after checking with Harry Eisenbeiss, I provided him with the name
of the CIA Librarian,
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4. Accompanied Mr. Colby and who
briefed the Intelligence Operations Subcommittee of Senate Appropriations
Committee on the Agency budget. See Memo for Record.
5. Left with Art Kuhl, Senate Foreign Relations
Committee staff, a copy of the NCNA wire photo from Peking of the Mansfield-
Scott delegation and their Chinese hosts and picked up from Kuhl six copies of
the Moose/Lowenstein report on "Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia: January 1972.
A copy of the report has been sent to FE Division.
6. In response to his request I left two copies
of the China Atlas with Mr. Sam Scott, Senate Internal Security Subcommittee
staff.
7. At his request I dropped by to see Ed Braswell,
Chief Counsel, Senate Armed Services Committee. He said the Chairman
was not satisfied with the intelligence information he has been receiving from
DOD and wanted Braswell to make arrangements for Jim Woolsey and himself
to get more detailed information from the Agency. See Memorandum for the
Record.
8. In Mr. Maury's absence I returned a call
to him from Charles Ablard, USIA. Ablard said he had talked with Tom
Korologos, White House staff, about strategy in handling the dissemination
of information provision of the State Authorization bill (S. 3526) and Dave
Abshire, Assistant Secretary of State for Congressional Relations, is to set
up a meeting to be attended by himself, Ablard and Mr. Maury with Senator
Baker to see if the Senator would be willing to offer an amendment to correct
the USIA/CIA problems with this section. Ablard will be back in touch with
us when a date has been set for the meeting.
9. I In a chance meeting with him on the Hill,
Bill Jordan, Senate Appropriations Committee staff, asked me whether the
Agency had any "foreign assistance resources. " It developed Jordan is pulling
together information on the Fulbright amendment to the Defense Appropriations
Act for F is cal 1972 and he wanted to be sure he had checked with us. Jordan
said he would hope that we would give him the answer that any information from
the Agency on this was classified and could not be made available. I told him
I would check on this and be back in touch with him.
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8 May 1972
SUBJECT: Request for Access to Intelligence Publications by
Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel, Senate Armed Services
Committee
1. At his request I dropped by to see Ed Braswell today. He said
the Chairman was not satisfied with the intelligence information he has
received from the Department of Defense and wanted Braswell to make
arrangements for Jim Woolsey and himself to get more detailed informa-
tion from the Agency.
2. Braswell said he and/or Woolsey would like to see the "Current
Intelligence Bulletin" and the "Developments in Indochina" periodically.
I told Braswell I thought this kind of arrangement was within the alternatives
which Mr. Maury had mentioned to me and I said I would talk to him about
it. Braswell said the Chairman had talked with the Director about the
situation and the Director had agreed to provide information to the two staff
members. (He did not specifically say that the Director had agreed to make
these publications available to the staff. )
3. When I asked Braswell how often they wanted to see the books,
he said he certainly did not expect to see them on a daily basis and would
pretty much leave it up to us, but he seemed to feel that seeing them twice
weekly would probably be sufficient. He added that knowledge of this
arrangement would be held very closely by Woolsey and himself and would
not even be mentioned to other members of the Armed Services Committee
staff.
Deputy Legislative Counsel
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4. called to report that he
had been asked by a contact in the Library of Congress to identify the laws
supporting current congressional committee oversight of the Agency. I
recommended that he avoid any detailed discussion and simply refer to the
Legislative Reorganization Act and the fact that the Agency's enabling legis-
lation has for some time been within the jurisdiction of the Armed Services
Committees of both Houses. I suggested that if his contact wanted further
information concerning this matter, the staffs of th ?Arm ed Services Com-
mittees be contacted, and if he wanted information on other laws affecting the
Agency, that Associate General Counsel, be contacted.
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5. Called William Shaw, Research Director,
House Internal Security Committee, and told him that we did not have any
unclassified compilation concerning political kidnappings but that he might
want to contact the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee for a report put out
under Senator Dodd's auspices in 1964 to serve as a case example.
6. In response to his call I met with Representative
Richard H. Ichord (D. , Mo.) and scheduled a meeting for Monday to brief him
on the various Warren Commission documents requested in his letter of 21 March.
Representative Ichord noted that he had delayed quite a bit in settin up the
meeting but he has been pressed on other matters. CI Staff, 25X1
has been advised. See Journal of 10 and 11 April 1972.
7. In response to her call met with Miss Dorothy
Fosdick, Staff Director, Subcommittee on National Security and International
Operations, and briefed her on various Soviet naval units operating in Cuban
waters including the G-class diesel-powered ballistic missile submarine. In
response to her question whether the presence of the G-class submarine is in
keeping with our understanding with the Soviet Union, I told Miss Fosdick that
this question is one. that she would have to refer to the Department of State.
As usual the meeting was most cordial and friendly.
8. Representative Frank Bow (R., Ohio)
was away from the city during the afternoon. I am to call his office on Monday
to arrange a time for meeting after his return.
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Slatinshek said that in view of recent press play about
5. Called Jim Woolsey and later Ed Braswell,
Senate Armed Services Committee staff, about the Director's possible
appearance this afternoon before Chairman Stennis and other members of
the Committee to discuss Vietnam. As it developed, the Chairman was
tied up on the floor throughout most of the day and the briefing never came off.
6. Discussed with Frank Slatinshek, House
Armed Services Committee staff, the briefing tomorrow of the full Committee
on the Vietnam situation, I said we weren't sure who would give the briefing
and asked if there were any particular questions we should be prepared for.
we might get questions on this.
Committee on Atomic Energy staff, who told me there was some rumbling
about the possibility of asking the Director to meet with the Joint Committee
within the next couple of weeks to bring them up-to-date on Soviet activities
in submarine and missile fields. He said this interest has been generated
as a result of Senator Proxmire's opposition to the ULMS and a desire on the
part of some Committee members to find out what the Soviets have been doing
in recent months. Murphy merely wished to alert us at this point. He said
thus far Representative Price has agreed to ask us for a briefing but it has
not been taken up with Chairman Pastore.
the White House staff, I brought him up-to-date on what we were doing with
regard to the State authorization bill. I said we had given Ed Braswell, Senate
Armed Services Committee staff, material and proposed amendments which __
Senator Stennis could use for an amendment against the 10 percent personnel
cut (with a specific exemption for the Agency or elimination of the entire
provision depending on Stennis' wishes) and had provided Charles Ablard,
USIA, with material which he could use in pulling together general arguments
against the dissemination of information provision. Korologos agreed completely
with our desire not to involve the Agency in a floor debate on this latter section.
of Representative Gilbert Gude (R., Md.), about a personnel case on which the
Congressman had contacted us and made arrangements to discuss the case with
Mr. Gude next Thursday at 2:30 p.m. after he has returned from a trip abroad.
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3. Sam Goldberg, Legislative Assistant to
Senator Charles McC. Mathias (R., Md.), called to say they were planning
on instituting some procedures in the Senator's office similar to ones which
he had established in his old office here in the Agency and he wondered if
he could get in touch with someone here who might be of assistance to them.
I told him I would check on this and be back in touch with him.
4. Left with Bill Woodruff, Counsel, Senate Appro-
priations Committee, the Director's letter of 28 April 1972 covering the
latest I also gave Woodruff a briefing covering the
reasons for He could foresee no problem with this and
said he would brief Chairman Ellender tomorrow.
5. Met briefly with Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel,
e and provided him with the figure he had
Senate Armed Services Committe.
requested on the number of Agency personnel who would be affected by the
10 percent personnel cut proposed in the State authorization legislation now
before the Senate. I also made several corrections in the amendment
language we had given him necessitated by changes in the bill as it was
reported by the Committee.
6. Left with Charles Stephenson, in the office
of Senator Harold Hughes (D., Iowa), a copy of the Indochina Atlas which
he had requested.
7. Left with the offices of Senators Mansfield
and Scott copies of the FBIS ticker on a Peking radio announcement describing
a meeting between the Senators' delegation and members of the government
of the People's Republic of China along with a copy of a radio photo of the
two delegations which was relayed by Peking NCNA on 21 April. Both offices
indicated interest and appreciation for these items.
8. In response to a call from Lucille Bushnell,
State Department, about the availability of copies of the China Atlas, I suggested
she discuss this with Mr. John Kerry King and gave her his number.
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15. Met with Representative Barry Goldwater, Jr. ,
in response to his request for a general -nonsensitive briefing on the Agency.
Since the briefing dealt with no operational matters, I offered no objection to
the inclusion of a couple members of his staff. His questions concerned
particularly the relation of the Agency with other members of the community,
the problems of coordination and duplication, and our general assessment of
the effectiveness of the RIS.
After discussing the matter with the Director, I called Braswell back
to say we suggested that George Carver provide the Chairman with a general
briefing on the military situation in Vietnam. Braswell will let us know what
the Chairman would like.
16. Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel, Senate Armed
Services Committee, called to say that Chairman Stennis was "much disillusioned"
out the military briefings he was getting regarding Vietnam and was
wondering how he could get a more objective picture of the situation there.
Braswell said he had suggested that he might want a briefing from CIA, but
Stennis had not immediately followed up on this. Braswell said before pursuing
the matter further he wanted our views and wondered whether it might be
more helpful to show him our situation reports. I said I thought the Chairman
could get a better perspective by an oral briefing by George Carver, SAVA, but
that I would take the matter up with the Director.
Braswell said he would like some additional backup material for the
Chairman's possible use in seeking an exemption for CIA to a 10% cut in
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17. Met with Frank Slatinshek, House Armed
Services Committee staff, who said the full Committee would like a briefing from
the Agency in the next two or three days on the situation in Vietnam. He said
several members such as Representative Leggett, had been increasingly skeptical
of the information they were getting from Defense briefers, including Admiral
Moorer who had been providing them with briefings on Vietnam in the past few days.
We discussed the pros and cons of whether such a briefing should be provided by
the Director or George Carver and Slatinshek thought Carver would probably be
acceptable. I said I would take the matter up with the Director and let him know
the results. He cautioned that because of the controversy in the Committee, and
critical attitude toward the Pentagon, things might get a little strained on this
subject.
Slatinshek said he had already been briefed by the Navy on a recent
sensitive item regarding Soviet naval activity in Cuba.
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ga Following up on his call to Mr. Maury, I
met with Ed Braswell, Chief Counsel, Senate Armed Services Committee, and
reviewed with him the material which I had left for him Friday on possible
amendments to the State authorization bill and floor statements for the Chairman's
use. Braswell confessed he had not read this material through and when we
went over it said it was quite sufficient for his purposes. He did ask, hdwever,
if I would check on the number of people in the Agency who would be covered
by the 10 percent reduction in overseas personnel and I told him I would double
check the figure and be back in touch with him tomorrow.
9. In response to his request, left with
Mr. Stevenson, in the office of Senator Harold Hughes (D. , Iowa) a copy
of the China Atlas.
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i. John Goldsmith, Senate Armed Services
Committee staff, called and said he was preparing some material for
Chairman Stennis' use on the Case /Church amendment to end the war and
had come across a New York Daily News item of 28 April stating that
Communist troops have staged public executions of mayors and teachers in
50 villages which they have occupied. Goldsmith is interested in knowing
whether this article is accurate. After checking with Mr. Carver, SAVA,
I told Goldsmith that in essence the article was true although we were not
at all sure about the figure of 50 since we doubt the Communists have occupied
that many towns. We suggested Goldsmith avoid the use of any numbers in
discussing this subject. Goldsmith was grateful for the information and said
he would limit himself to a mere statement that reports alleged these executions
had taken place.
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3. Called Bob O'Regan, in the office of Repre-
sentative Dante B. Fascell (D., Fla. ), about the constituent letter from
asking about several Spanish language radio stations in
I told O'Regan there was no official U. S. Government connection
Florida
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with these stations as far as we knew and any information about them and the
persons associated with them should be obtained from the Federal Communi-
cations Commission whom had mentioned in his letter along with CIA.
O'Regan said he had also referred the letter to the FCC but "they are not as
prompt in their response to congressional inquiries. " He asked if we would
give him some kind of an answer from the Agency which he could use in
responding to query. I told him I would see what we could do.
4. Jane McMullan, Senate Appropriations
Committee staff, called to say the community budget session on Friday
would begin at 9:30 a. m. instead of the usual 10:00 a. m.
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