CONVERSATION WITH SENATOR LEVERETT SALTONSTALL

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP71B00364R000600170060-8
• Release Decision: RIFPUB
• Original Classification: K
• Document Page Count: 2
• Document Creation Date: December 16, 2016
• Document Release Date: August 1, 2005
• Sequence Number: 60
• Publication Date: May 18, 1966
• Content Type: MFR

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18 May 1966
SUBJECT; Conversation with Senator Leverett Saltonstall
1. On this date, I met with Senator Leverett Saltoastall Faid
his Administrative Assistant 'ftlliam Saltonstsll to discuss witi {:hero
recent developments in the Michigan State University situation f- well
as the Senate Foreign Relations C ornmtttee's action on the ' icC 2: thy
resolution to establish a select Senate Committee on Intelligence Operations.
2. 1 discussed with Senator Saltonatall the article whicl :appeared
in the NEW YORK TIMES of 17 May indicating that Jack Faxon, [,ernocratic
representative to the Michigan State Legislature from Detroit, tad written
to Senator Saltonstall and the Secretary of State to obtain "cone -f-te
evidence" regarding the Michigan State/CIA inquiry. Senav-)r r ,tonstall
has not yet received such a letter from Faxon. The Senator sa -1 that
while he was reluctant to initiate correspondence to Faxon on t: t basis
of the press article, he would be happy to respond to any inquir from
Faxon by restating the position he had taken on the Michigar: St, -t-!! matter
on the floor of the Senate. I told the Senator that the Director Ld Mr. Helms
had been greatly impressed by his floor statement and would lij a to see the
statement remain in this context to the extent possible.
3. 1 talked with the Senator and William Saltonstall at t ne length
regarding the McCarthy resolution and raised with them some c1 the
technical parliamentary points involved, i. e. , the question of a point of
order being raised as to the referral of the McCarthy resolatio to the
Armed Services and the Appropriations Committees and the qut stion of the
effect of the McCarthy resolution, as amended by the Senator, -.n the existing
jurisdiction of the Armed Services and Appropriations Corn nittaas over CIA.
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The 'senator acknowledged the pertinence of these points but wa oat
in a position to express judgment on them at this time. On the uestion
of the referral of the resolution to Armed Services and Appropx _: Lion ,
Senator Saltonatall felt this was a judgment determination to be =n.ade by
Senator Russell based on his assessment of his chances of defecting the
resolution in a floor battle.
4. 1 then raised several points with the Senator concerning the
debate on the McCarthy resolution on the floor of the Senate on # onday.
I pointed out the inconsistency of Senator Fuibright's two iti=t- s. On
the one hand he stated that the activities of CIA were of such a rature that
they had a bearing on foreign policy and, therefore, this made (IA functions
Matter of interest to the Foreign Relations Committee. On the other
hand, he attempted to minimfire the effect of passage of the McCarthy
resolution by stating that this would only add three additional mt;x hers
to the existing Subcommittees of Appropriations and Armed 3er--ices.
This seemed to be a new point to Senator Saltonstall and stir ulated his
interest. I also pointed out that in his statement regarding Admiral
Raborn's reluctance to discuss certain matters with the For3i,g< relations
Committee. Senator Fulbright had avoided pointing out the distij.ction (which
had been made by the Director at the time of his testimony) betty teen matters
of intelligence information (which he was happy to discuss with the Committee)
and matters involving Agency operations (which he felt he was u :der injunc-
tion not to discuss with that group). Senator Saltonstall also ez ressed
interest in this point. I told him that we were preparing some rLeeterial
containing amplifications of arguments used in opposition of the \\%"cCarthy
resolution on Monday and rebuttles to assertions made by Senat?:,r s
Fulbrighi and McCarthy during that debate. The Senator is Ines interested
in having the benefit of this.
5. During private conversation with William Saltonstall. --le made a
Paint of mentioning that the Senator would be most receptive to =visit from
Admiral Raborn in his office on the Hill should the Admiral be c. the vicinity
and be available on any given occasion daring the lunch hour. . Saltonstall
said the Senator frequently had a corn beef sandwich in his office: and would
welcome the opportunity to chat A th the Director if he were available
particularly at that hour.
GEORGE L. CAR Y, JP.
Distribution; Assistant Legislative Counsel
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