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10 June 1963
Honorable J. V. Fulbright
Chairman
Committee on Foreign Relations
United States Senate
Washington 25, D. C.
Dear Mr. Fulbright:
This is to acknowledge receipt of your letter of 24 Ma ~ 1963,
requesting comments on S. Con. Res. 42, establishing the Jcic t
Committee on National Security Affairs.
Upon completion of review and clearance through the
Bureau of the Budget, we will be pleased to forward our coma znts
on this bill.
Sincerely,
STAT
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CARL MARCY, CHIEF OF STAFF
DARRELL ST. CLAIRE, CLERK
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The Honorable John A. NcCone, Director
Central Intelligence Aj-;ency
Washington, D. C.
Dear Mr. Director:
Enclosed Is a copy of S. Con. Res. 42,
submitted on May la,)-, 1963, by Senator
Humphrey (for himself` and others).
The Committee would appreciate having corrm-
ments on this
Sincerely yours,
W. Fulbright
Chairman
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88TH CONGRESS
IST SESSION
. CON. x42
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
MAY 15 (legislative day, MAY 13), 1963
Mr. HUMPHREY (for himself, Mr. CLARK, and Mr. ENGLEI) submifted the tol
lowing concurrent resolution; which was referred to the Conimitiee on
Foreign Relations (by unanimous consent)
CONCURRENT RESOLUTION
1 Resolved by the Senate (the Douse of Representativ(~
2. concurring), That (a.) there is hereby established a. joit+i
3 congressional committee to be mown as the Joint Comnkitteo
4 on National Security Affairs (hereinafter referred to t->
5 the "committee") to be composed of twelve. members who
6 are Members of the Senate and twelve members who ar
7 Members of the House of Representatives.
8 (b) (1) Of the members of the committee who are
9 Members of the Senate-
10 (A) Five shall be members of the Senate Comrimil-
11 tee on Foreign Relations (of whom. not, less thw tw _-
12 shall be from the minority party)
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1 (B) Four shall be members of the Senate Com-
2 mittee on Armed Services (of whom not less than one
3 shall be from the minority party) ; and
4 (C) Three shall be members of the Joint Coim-
5 mittee on Atomic Energy (of whom not less than one
6 shall be from the minority party)
7 (2) Of the members of the committee who are Mem-
8 bers of the House of Representatives-
9 (A) Five shall be members of the House Com-
10 mittee on Foreign Affairs (of whom not less than two
11 shall be from the minority party) ;
12 (B) Four shall be members of the House Corn-
13 mittee on Armed Services (of whom not less than
14 one shall be from the minority party) ; and
15 (C) Three shall be members of the Joint Com-
16 mittee on Atomic Energy (of whom not less than one
17 shall be from the minority party) .
18 (c) Members of the committee who are Members of
19 the Senate shall be appointed by the President of the Senate,
20 and members of the committee who are Members of the
21 House of Representatives shall be appointed by the Speaker
22 of the House of Representatives.
23 (d) Any vacancy in the membership of the committee
24 shall be filled in the same manner as the original selection,
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1 and the committee shall elect a chairman from among its
2 members.
3 SEc. 2. It shall he the function of the committee to
4 make a continuous study and investigation of all inatters
5 pertaining to national defense, foreign policy, and national
6 security (including intelligence, defense policy, nuclear de
7 velopment, and disarriianient) . In fulfilling- this function
8 the committee shall be authorized to review the operation;:
9 of the respective executive agencies responsible for the de
:10 velopment and execution of policies with respect to such
11 matters.
12 SEc. 3. The committee shall make, from time to time.
13 reports to the Senate and the House of Representatives and
14 the appropriate committees of Congress concerning the rc%
15 suits of its studies, together with such recommendations as
16 it may deem desirable.
17 SEC. 4. The committee or any duly authorized subeor-
18 mittee thereof is authorized to hold such hearings; to sit
19 and act at such times and places; to require by subpei-,a
20 or otherwise the attendance of such witnesses and the pro--
21 duction of such books, papers, and documents; to administer
22 such oaths; to take such testimony; to procure such prir~t-
23 ing and binding as it deems advisable. The provisions of
24 sections 102 to 104, inclusive, of the Revised Statutes, as
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1 amended, shall apply in case of any failure of any witness
2 to comply with any suibpena or to testify wvI-ien summoned
3 under authority of this section.
4 SEC. 5. The members of the committee shall serve with-
5 out compensation in addition to that received for their sere=
6 ices as Members of Congress, but they shall be reimbursed
7 for travel, subsistence, and other expenses incurred by them
in the performance of the duties vested in the committee other
9 than expenses in connection with meetings of the committee
10 held in the District of Columbia during such times as the
11 Congress is in session.
112 SEC. (i. The Committee is authorized, without regard
1 to the civil service laws. or the (classification Act of 1949, as
14 amended, to appoint and fix the compensation of such clerks,
15 experts, consultants, and clerical and stenographic assistants
16 as it deems necessary and advisable. The committee is
17 authorized to reimburse the members of its staff for travel,
18 subsistence, and the other necessary expenses incurred by
19 them in the performance of the duties vested in the comp
20 mittee other than expenses in connection with meetings of
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m'J-e conitiii tee neia in the _UMstrict of Columbia during such
times as the Congress is in session. The chairmen of the
various Senate and House committees referred to in subsec-
tion (b) of the first section of this resolution may assign
members of the staffs of such committees to serve on the
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staff of the committee, without additional compensation,
except for the reimbursement of expenses incurred by such
staff members as prescribed in this section.
SEC. 7. The expenses of the committee shall be paid
one-half from the contingent fund of the Senate and one-half
from the contingent fund of the House of Representatives,
upon vouchers signed by the chairman of the committee or
by any member of the committee duly authorized by the
chairman.
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88TH CONGRESS
1ST SESSION
S. CON. RES. 42
CONCURRENT RESOLUTION
Establishing the Joint Committee on National
Security Affairs.
By Mr. HIIMPHREY, Mr. CLARK, and Mr. ENGLE
MAY 15 (legislative day, MAY 13), 1963
Referred to the Committee on Foreign Relations
(by unanimous consent)
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COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS
OFFICIAL BUSINESS
The lion. John A. DicOone
Director Agercy
Central Intelligence
Washington 25, D. C.
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Remarks: Attached is an excerpt from the Congress-
ional Record of 15 August containing the remarks
of Representative Lindsay when he introduced a
resolution to establish a Joint Committee on
Foreign Intelligence and Information. I have
marked some of the more important parts of his
arguments. In view of the personal references
which he has made to Senator Russell, Senator
Saltonstali and staff me-enbers of congressional
committees, I have called his remarks to the
attention of Robert Smart and William Darden.
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The study. was jointly sponsored by the
Protestant-supported Community Service
Center, the Roman Catholic Mother Butler
Center and the mayor's committee.
Particular interest in the religious affilia-
tions of the Indians in the community has
made the study significant to a number of
churches in the community.
Results show that those admitted to
church membership, 227 families named the
Roman Catholic Church, 114 the Episcopal
Church, 15 the Congregational Church, 11
the Presybterian Church, 9 the Methodist
Church, but none claimed membership in the
Indian Native American Church.
There were 43 families that spoke of mixed
marriages and 10 adherred to various Pente-
costal groups.
The census was part of a study begun by
Father White in 1957 when he interviewed
150 Indian families in Rapid City.
Since then he has spent considerable time
here in conjunction with his work in soci-
ology at St. Louis University In Missouri.
Support for the census and for a related
study among the non-Indian families in the
city has come from the National Institutes
of Mental Health, Bethesda, Md., and help
In the actual canvassing was given by indi-
viduals from various organizations, includ-
ing the American Association of University
Women, the two church centers and the
mayor's committee.
The complete report on the entire study
will be presented in a book Father White.
is comp111ng'\ Pv;*cation lVdue in 1965.
EXTENSION OF REMARKS
OF
HON. PAUL G. ROGERS
OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Thursday, November 14, 1963
Mr. ROGERS of Florida.. Mr. Speaker,
I have continually called for the estab-
lishment of a joint congressional com-
mittee to oversee the CIA and our other
intelligence agencies. Since the begin-
ning of this year when I introduced
legislation in the form of House Joint
Resolution 211, which would accomplish
this objective, I have called on Congress
to act on this matter. The people of
America are concerned over the un-
bridled activities of the CIA, and the
news media has joined in this concern
by. pointing out time after time the
hazards of an unscrutinized intelligence
community.
I fear that the CIA sometimes seems
to embody the fiction of an Ian Fleming
novel-however, intelligence information
is fact, not fiction, and should be dealt
with accordingly.
It is clear in my mind and apparently
in the minds of several of our colleagues
,sho have joined me in introducing legis-
lation to provide for a "watchdog com-
mittee" over A he CIA, that there is a
need for a joint congressional committee
whose sole function is to oversee the
activities of the CIA and our other in-
telligence agencies.
At this point in the record, I would like
to insert a recent article from the Los
Angeles Times entitled "Watchdogs Over
CIA Demanded," written by John H.
Averill:
WATCHDOGS OVER CIA DEMANDED-LAW-
MAKERS ASSERT THEY HAVE RIGHT To CHECK
ON AGENCY
(By John H. Averill)
WASHINGTON.-Speculation on the role of
the Central Intelligence Agency in South
Vietnam's coup d'etat has revived congres-
sional demands for a special watchdog com-
mittee to keep an eye on the spy agency's
activities.
There have been similar demands in the
past, particularly after tHee of the CIA's U-2
spy planes went down over Russia in 1960.
The demands got nowhere.
However, advocates of a congressional
watchdog committee say that more and more
Members of Congress are becoming con-
cerned and demanding that something be
done. The CIA was established by Congress
in 1947 under the Defense Unification Act
and given broad authority in the intelligence
field overseas.
POINTS. TO RIGHT
"I think that Congress has a right to know
if the Nation is getting its money's worth
from the CIA," said Representative PAUL G.
ROGERS, Democrat, of Florida, one of the more
persistent backers of efforts to create a joint
Senate-House committee on intelligence
activities.
As things now stand, only a select handful
of Senate and House Members even know
how much money the CIA gets. Estimates
range from a half billion to a billion dollars
a year.
It is this handful which most strongly op-
poses creation of a watchdog committee.
And since the group includes some of the
most influential Members of Congress, such
as Representative CART. VINSON, Democrat,
of Georgia, the powerful and crusty chair-
man of the House Armed Services Commit-
tee, it has been able so far to stave off the
watchdog committee proposals.
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he said, "not only of tho CIA `r u.t of the
Defense Department intelligence nmunity,
too, and there must be a consta t review of
how intelligence information is -cordinated
and evaluated.
"Any agency of Government hat is not
carefully watched can develop p dices that
would not be tolerated if they -;j e open to
careful and responsible congrese -,ral review.
"I'm not saying the CIA be developed
these practices, We just don't .now. If it
hasn't it would have nothing , ear from
congressional review. But their is mistrust
and concern in Congress about 'r- CIA and
if we had a joint committee we could allay
these suspicions and restore cor'i1ence."
ROGERS' views were seconded tz,?erally by
Representative H. ALLEN Sums l publican,
of California), a former FBI ent who
worked on several World War espionage
cases.
SAYS FBI REPORTS
"The CIA is no more secret tb a the FBI,"
SMrrH said, "and the FBI gives "i ogress all
the information it requests;, put 0,et annual
reports on its activities, and 1 ra Congress
know how much money it needs :-,:d spends.
SMrrH said it was became of a = flee secrecy
that he opposed a bill passed b.he House
last week to authorize more li e-al retire-
ment benefits for CIA agents evolved in
hazardous assignments.
In opposing the bill, Sa15TH s: d it was his
guess that Soviet Premier Niki a S. Khru-
shchev "and even the Russian 1:i0 rsey here
in Washington know more abot. !IA than I
do."
SMITH in an interview said hr ass not ad-
vocating release of any secret `i formation
that might harm national recur y or jeopar-
dize a CIA agent's life.
"I just think we hav n a nsiponsibility,
since we vote the money, to knc r how many
employees the CIA has, what C;-3" do, what
the policies are, If any, and wh: .her the job
is being done as it should be," _,z?rse said.
Bence, declared he sees "absolutely no need This view was challenged by R u, esentative
for a joint committee." GERALD R. FORD, JR., Republican, o (Michigan,
"We know what the CIA is doing," VIlesoN a member of the House A pprop anions Sub-
said in an interview. "We know what goes committee on Intelligence.
on and we are satisfied with the operations of "I see no need for any epecia? c mmittee,"
the CIA." FORD said, "I know of no instar ;r where we
He noted that the House Appropriations have requested information the tt has been
Committee also has a special subcommittee denied.
headed by Representative GEORGE H. MAHON, The CIA is a lot more coma i ated than
Democrat, of Texas, to pass on CIA appro- the FBI. It is involy.^d it operations
priations and that the Senate has a similar throughout the world and there could be real
six-man group made up of members of its dangers to expose the CIA. to to ?i scrutiny."
Armed Services and Appropriations Commit- FORD agreed that perhaps his n:1 VINSON's
tees. subcommittees could do more ., allay con-
"I've been around here for 49 " VIN- gressional suspicions about th. CIA by ap-
"I've their colleagues of some a the infor-
SON said, "and I'm satisfied the CIA is getting mation the subcommittees obt. r_
sufficient congressional supervision." "The trouble," he said, "is , determine
This view is challenged, however, by some i what can be released. E%ervthi _c about the
SAYS HE'S IN DARK
"We are working in the dark," said Repre-
sentative JOHN V. LINDSAY, Republican, of
New York, "or at least in the semitwilight."
LINDSAY and ROGERS are among 15 House
Members of both parties who are sponsoring
resolutions to create either a joint commit-
tee with the Senate or a special House com-
mittee to keep a constant eye on CIA activi-
ties.
"I think we axe gathering more support all
the time," said ROGERS. "particularly after
the debacle in Cuba, rumors of CIA foulups
in Latin America and reports that the CIA
was involved in the Vietnam affair."
ROGERS, while emphasizing he was not
quarreling with the Armed Services or Appro-
priations Committees argued that an ade-
quate job of checking CIA activities cannot
be done by anything less than a full-time
committee which has no other function.
"There must be a Continuing watchdog,"
just can't give it to everyone b? , f you give
it-to one you've got to give it to :t t and then
We Must Stand Toget%er h:. `-'his Hour
of Sorrow
EXTENSION OF RE14:e . i,1KS
OF
HON. CHARLES E. Bi NNETT
OF FLORIDA
IN THE HOUSE OF RE-'REST''T''ATIVES
Monday, October 28, [963
Mr. BENNETT of Florida, Mr. Speak-
er, I wish to congratulate 'sleb King,
Jr., editor of the Florida T rtes Union,
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on the excellent editorial published in John Fitzgerald Kennedy
the November 25 edition of that paper.
It was truthfully there said that "A man
service of his country." Having served or
with Mr. King in World War II, I know HON. PAUL G. ROGERS
fallen leader, President Kennedy, he is IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
conscious, as am I, that the President
died as a soldier for his country, as truly Thursday, November 14, 1963
as any recipient of the Congressional Mr. ROGERS of Florida. Mr.
Medal of Honor. Soldierlike, Mr. King Speaker, the entire world mourns the
observes that "life must go on" and we passing of our late President, as does
must all "stand strongly behind" our our own Nation. We in Florida' and the
new leader. The late President Kennedy Sixth District feel the loss acutely, as we
would have been the first to say that. considered the President and his family
The editorial reads as follows: as neighbors and friends. The winter
WE MUST STAND TOGETHER IN THIS HOUR OF White House at Palm Beach was a famil-
SORROW
A grim and sorrowing Nation will honor
the late President, John Fitzgerald Kennedy,
in solemn rites in Washington at noon today.
The grief, which every American shares with
the widow and family of the late Chief Ex-
ecutive, is in no way assuaged by the knowl-
edge that justice is moving swiftly to exact
retribution for the dastardly crime,
All Americans may, however, take justi-
fiable pride in the way in which our Nation
has drawn together in this hour of mourn-
ing and in the spirit of bipartisan coopera-
tion which the Congress has pledged to Pres-
ident Lyndon Johnson upon his succession
to the office lately held by a young and
vigorous leader.
Many Americans are inclined to view the
theory of bipartisan support with skepti-
cism. The theory was devised by President
Franklin D. Roosevelt to meet the emergen-
cies and needs of World War II, but it has
not always been successfully applied since
his time.
But, bipartisanism is an honorable policy
for all to follow in times of national crisis
and tragedy, such as this Nation is now
experiencing. In such times there can be
no thought but that which is the best for the
Nation as a whole.
In these modern times it is hard to decide
where domestic and foreign policies end or
begin. It used to be said that domestic pol-
icies ended at the water's edge, but now those
things which affect us internally often af-
fect us externally as a nation. The Presi-
dent's murderer has, therefore, changed all
our history in the single, treacherous pull
of a trigger.
No one can say with certainty what the
changes will be nor how they will affect all of
us or all free men in the world.
The new President has in brief and solemn
words sought the bipartisan support of Con-
gress, the help of the people, and the aid of
Almighty God. The trials which now face
him are many and great and upon their suc-
cessful resolution much depends. -
In the final analysis life must go on. A
man of courage and ability has fallen in the
service of his country. None can explain or
understand why he should have been called
upon to make this supreme sacrifice, to all
it appears a useless and senseless waste of a assassin will be apprehended and properly
life dedicated to service. punished. But this is a secondary con-
We may all give meaning to the life of sideration. Such a foul deed could have
the late President, so tragically shortened, been conceived and executed only by diseased
minds.
by pledging ourselves anew to stand strongly. Our thoughts at this time are primarily of
behind President Lyndon Johnson and to sympathy for the bereaved family, and of
offer prayers for the comfort of the living hope and concern for our new President,
and a safe voyage through these perilous Lyndon B. Johnson.
times for our Nation. May God be with them all, and with us.
iar place to all, and Palm Beach itself
had witnessed not only the comings and
goings of the President but his growth
and development from childhood until
the weekend prior to his tragic death.
Millions of words have already been
written about the man and the act which
has taken him from us at the prime of
his life, when we know in our hearts
words cannot express our feelings. To
his family we can only say the prayer,
God be with you, which has already
manifested itself in the courage and
strength which we have all witnessed
and which will be an inspiration for
years to come.
To the memory of John Fitzgerald
Kennedy the American people should re-
dedicate themselves to abolish from this
land forever the hate and discord which
created the atmosphere for this tragedy,
and remember the warning of Lincoln
that while no foreign power may ever
conquer, we have within ourselves the
power to destroy our own Nation. Every
single citizen must take an active part
in the work of returning our Nation to
the rule of reason and of law.
Mr. Speaker, I include several repre-
sentative editorials from Florida at this
point in the RECORD:
[From the Palm Beach Post, Nov. 23, 1963]
SHOCK AND MOURNING
America today is in mourning.
A great, good man is dead at the hands of
an assassin. The youngest man ever elected
to the Presidency of the United States, a
brilliant statesman with a valorous war
record, a beloved family man with an abiding
faith in God-has been cut down in the
prime of his career.
John Fitzgerald Kennedy has joined the
martyrs. Like his illustrious predecessors,
he now belongs to the ages.
In the Palm Beaches, which was to the
President a "second home" and site of the
"winter White House," shock prevails. Only
a few days ago, he was among us, vigorous
[From the Fort Lauderdale (Fla.) News,
Nov. 24, 1963]
WORDS UNSPOKEN AT DALLAS OFFER GUIDANI
TO NATION IN THE TRYING DAYS AHEAD
President John F. Kennedy was to have
made a speech in Dallas on Friday. Before
he reached the appointed place, the 35th
President of the United States held a rendez-
vous with death and his voice was stilled for-
ever, his words unspoken.
Although they were left unsaid, the words
should be our guide in this awkward hour
when a President of the United States rests
this very day in state in the rotunda of the
Capitol, and while the new President works
in the heavy presence of death and mourn-
ing, to take over our Nation's affairs and
chart the direction the ship of state shall
sail for the next 14 months.
Well might President Lyndon B. John-
son heed those words unspoken. Well might
every American citizen weigh them and ac-
cept them as counsel through the convul-
sions that must occur during the difficult
transition.
What Mr. Kennedy had intended to say
in his Dallas-speech wasan excerpt from the
Bible, Psalm 124: "Except the Lord build the
house, they labor in vain that build it. Ex-
cept the Lord keep the city, the watchman
waketh but in vain."
Mr. Kennedy was a master of oratory and
there were those among us who believed that
he often spoke wise counsel, but too often
did not pay heed as he spoke. All of that
is of consequence no longer, for in the mar-
tyrdom of his high office, the President rests
expiated of human frailties, left to the judg-
ment of his Maker and of history.
What is of consequence is that Mr. Ken-
nedy had chosen to recite from a psalm
which, through lamentable and shocking cir-
cumstances,- should now become an echoing
reminder for Americans through the remain-
ing ages.
They are the words in which can be found i
the answer to the anguished question of
House Speaker JOHN W. MCCORMACK, who,
when informed of Mr. Kennedy's assassina-
tion, cried out: "My God, My God. What
are we coming to?"
Both the question and the reply found in
the psalm should serve as admonitions to
each and every American citizen. Indeed,
what were we coming to in the mounting
tempest, calmed for now by the chili of
death?
Irrefutably, we had become a divided na-
tion; ultra-liberal against ultra-conserva-
tive, Democrat against Republican, north-
erner against southerner, atheist against
religionist, black against white, American
against American.
We had been caught up in an ugly web of
opportunism, of materialism; placed at the
mercy of outside influences that would bury
us, sapped of resolve to pay any cost for the
preservation of our inherited doctrine,
caught in a crosscurrent of demands upon
another without regard forone to the other.
We were a finely divided nation and we
knew it; yet little of anything was accom-
plished in restoring our national unity. We
were on a collision course with the future
that awaited us in November 1963.
Our direction from that point on shall
remain forever unknown, obliterated by
searing bullet triggered by one individual
whose horrendous action may leave us un-
certain and exposed to deepening schism, or
spared the rendering that awaited at the
point of collision.
That we never will know.
But this we do know: If this Nation is to
be destroyed and, as Mr. Kennedy once said,
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Role of CIA
President Kennedy has given
the Nation flat assurance that
the Central Intelligence Agency
has not carried out indepen-
dent activities in South Viet
Nam.
John H. Richardson, C I A
chief in Saigon, r e c a 11 e d re-
p o r t e dl y under some sort of
cloud last week end, is "a very
dedicated public servant," Mr.
Kennedy told his news confer-
ence last evening. He operated
under close control of CIA Di-
rector John McCone, the Presi-
dent added.
He referred, however, to the
"transfer" of Mr. Richardson,
indicating the controversial
figure would not return to Sai-
I iast ny
has done nothing but support they hve been charged. I th 1
agreed rol in South Viet
Nam, Mr. Kennedy reported.
"It does not create policy,"
he emphasized, "it attempts to
execute it in those areas where
it has competence and respon-
sibility."
Moreover. the CIA director,
the United States Ambassador,
Henry Cabot Lodge, and the
Secretaries of State and De-
fense are now in agreement on
policy in Viet Nam. If there is
disagreement at lower levels, he
speculated, this would be be-
cause "they are not wholly in-
formed of what actions we are
taking. Some of them are nec-
essarily confidential."
Reports the CIA undercut
United States policy in Viet
Nam are "wholly untrue" the
President declared.
"While the CIA may have
made mistakes," he added, "as
we all do, on different occa-
sions, and has had many sue-
they have done a good job."
No clew congressional watt
dog committee is needed it'
keep an eye on the CIA, in t : c
President's opinion, b e c a u s e
those Congressional groups nt .,k, watching CIA expenditures f e''
doing an adequate job.
The President also assu,-,d
the Nation that the U nit d
States continues to oppose r r, itary coups in Latin America.
Coups are "self-defeat ug
and defeating for the Hemi-
sphere" ie said.
Both the Dominican R M00.
lie and Honduran go 4
have recently been, e> t
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CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE
ure we are now considering. I believe a
base plan of the type I suggested would
have been an effective instrument in re-
ducing surpluses, and as it did so, it
would reward those dairy farmers who
had reduced their production. There is
no logic whatsoever in encouraging the
production of $3 milk in an area where
producers need $5 to $6 to cover the cost
of producing milk.
However, it soon became apparent dur-
ing the hearings that my bill was too
severe for any serious consideration.
There was too much active opposition to
it by major segments of the industry.
As a matter of fact, even after the De-
partment of Agriculture proposed -less
stringent language it was still thought
too severe by some.
Be that as it may, the fact remains
that my bill was unacceptable.
In its place, however, we have a bill,
S. 1915, which- I believe will be helpful,
over a period of years, in reducing pro-
ac
v
es.
duction in market order areas. As a re- In fact, not only does the centraliza-
sult we anticipate that there will be some tion of responsibility for the gathering
savings to the taxpayer, and at the same and assessment of intelligence and the
time a slight increase in income to carrying out of subsequent operations
farmers. rest under the same roof here in Wash-
I am a realist, therefore, I have given ington, but the chiefs of station in the
up hope on my bill. Instead, I support field appear to be carrying on these dual
S. 1915, the measure now before the Sen- and conflicting responsibilities.
ate, because it will accomplish some good. In this connection. too, we all recall
Mr. PROXMIRE. Mr. President, I President Kennedy's Instruction to our
suggest the absence of a quorum
Government
ers
l
b
.
p
ona
a
road on May 29,
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The 1961, when he said that only the Amer-
clerk-will call the roll.
icon Ambassador should be responsr e
the run. , '~~ TThe president iris rut e Talt
Mr. MCCARTHY. Mr. President, I each Ambassador be fully informed
ask unanimous consent that further pro- about the activities of all agencies of
ceedings under the quorum call be re- the American Government in the coun-
scinded. try to which he is assigned. Yet, I must
The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mr. HART say that the Ambassador who is both
in the chair). Without objection, it is completely at ease and fully informed
so ordered. about all the activities conducted by
Mr. PELL. Mr. President, will the American Government People in the
Senator yield? area of his assi
t
gnmen
and aware of all
Mr. MCCARTHY. I yield to the Sena- the messages home is indeed a rare bird.
tor from Rhode Island. .` .T fully realize that the Central Intel-
Mr. PELL. I thank the Senator from ligence Agency is in general run and
Minnesota for yielding to me. manned by remarkably brilliant, dash.
18143
If one result was drawn, if one lesson the dollars that have be r lost in the
was learned, from that affair, it was that carrying out of there acts ities. And I
the responsibility for intelligence collec- believe that an obi active- a'rpraisal will
tion and assessment must be separated show that when decision. io carry out
from the responsibility for carrying out operational activities have gone sour, the
Operational activities. reason for clouded judgm, ^r; s has simply
I remember being among the small been that the same gro , assesses the
group of public officials who publicly intelligence and then prc..e.:ds to carry
took a stand prior to the Bay of Pigs, out the operation.
warning that an invasion would be un- Actually, in South Viet. -s a, where, as
likely of success since the majority of the public press has set -j; th, we have
the Cuban people at, that time favored had an eijeell t An.,]
tiile~ e> aT
the regime, a conclusion derived from Intelligence Agency c ie1 )i station, we
my own visit to Cuba following my elec- might n ours
es iii a ,6:.t"
tion in 1960 and a conclusion which I if there were a issltion
announced publicly after my return. tween collecting and as and as ,
se w-mg ogao of f innt el-
-
After the Bay of Pigs, a board was set ligence on the one hand i?-o i the carry-
up and the general impression was that ing out of the subsequent :Mrerations on
there would be drastic overhauls in our the other. We might not 4t en be play-
Central Intelligence Agency, including a ing quite the same reie we ?l,-,w do where
separation re 3ansTAT2ity between
the United States is ielpirr finance and
those who gather and assess intelligence arm the South Vietnam r; :.rue's special
as opposed to those who carry out oper- forces, which carry out ti' rersecution,
ational
ti
iti
beating up, and abuse of l olitical op-
ponents. I do hope t-iat, 3: ,irder to im-
prove our situation in Si fi,,h Vietnam
and throughout the worlc=! he admin-
istration will make snore csitive steps
to separate the responsib ii ies for the
gathering and assessment :- Intelligence
from the carrying out, of s ?.rsequent op-
erational activities.
In this connection. i a unanimous
consent to insert in he 1 .? coax at this
point a well thought-out i _ii orial from
Tuesday's Washingtoei Po illustrating
the necessity of such a seption.
There being no objection Jfie editorial
was ordered to be printed it the RECORD,
as follows:
OUR MAN .'.? SAI-t
The recall of the CIA chief t=n in South
Vietnam should not be an o' ? don for re-
crimination. It should be a:: occasion for
some useful reconsiders Lion : .he general
role of an intelligence agen ,' in foreign
affairs. Ambassador Lodge is ua,rtedly con-
cerned about the prevaili; ig arr. via--ement that
makes the CIA both an intell e ice-gather-
ing organization and an oper. --i Dal agency
in the field. Mr. Lodge is no :-;one in his
concern.
that It has scored many successes-'_J also in pr ctice, theltwo functions a_, of beak pt
1 SEPARATION OF INTELLIGENCE realize that, being an intelligence orga- apart so easu
ex
AND OPERAT
i
yi
per
ence ha own that
IONAL FUNCTIONS nization, the c ntral Intelli ence A ene agency operatives in the field h a tendency
IN THE CIA iz in +ti,-
?.~ carrynig "" ",,-=,r ~??~ ~uec es. teiligence nor benefits from opp c a ions based
out of covert or paramilitary opera- a question where there is doubt in on a hard-headed percephonc reality.
tional activities are two very different my mind is whether the total number of Clearly the CIA is at a 0isadv.u; age in any
functions. These days we often hear successes outweigh the total number of public debate of its activities; the agency
the words "conflict of interest." But, if failures; whether our American national cannot speak for itself. succe>i ten goes
there was ever a conflict of interest, it interest in totality has been helped or unnoticed; failure just .i$ oft may lead
is when the same group of men, first, hampered by the Central Intelligence to an exaggeration of the CIA's i :r;ansibility.
collect intelligence and make an assess- Agency. And, when this determination This is the price that. secrecy x:LCts? But
ment of the intelligence they have col- public concern in the ogee ;y's p, i. rmance is
is made,
, I believe we must separate the legitimate and should not bee meted with
lected and coordinated, and then, sec- intelligence and assessment functions an attempt to smear ortc imps ca the mo-
proceed to carry out an operation from the operational functions. rives of any CIA official.
on the basis of the selfsame intelligence My own Personal view is that a com- fair What is overall sorely dy of th not the ;s uaitei, r ace coX gee com -
they have collected and assessed. The plate, fair assessment; would show that munity
temptation to trim the intelli
Such
i
.
an
nquiry aught u deal with
gence or, the United States would have, on bar- rivalry between the CIAartd the J. tense in-
at least, their assessment of it, to suit ante, gained greatly as the result of its telligence Agency. It to r
the operation is well nigh irresistibl
ought
.
i
;
cv on ex-
e
.
ntelligence collection and assessment ae- Perience in other countries when i tell igence
An excellent example of the tragic re- tivities. But I also believe that, on bar- and operational activities are :.e red with
sults that can result from the failure to ante, the U.S. national interest may well separate organizational entities -lid con-
separate the assessment of intelligence have lost more than it has gained from gucss should take the into: rive crunching
from operational activities was demon- [its CIA operational activities, particular- such a study.
strated at the Bay of Pigs 2 V2 years ago. yly if one takes into account the lives and haver closed many oe`.the ne: rii orr legis- _
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Yet who else e can do the job? ob? The public ic
lacks the facts; the administration has a to the general economy and general wel- gress of a justification and a need for
record to defend; the Agency cannot be ex- fare this type of legislation, even though it
pected to study itself. Enough has come to There is little hope for improvement applied primarily to the agricultural
j an al m light
ight to pr roptify properly be iconducted dby ainbyiry, special which in this situation unless Congress takes sector of our economy and to farmers.
mcommission drawwin drawing sg on Members steps to reduce the surplus which de- There have been some partisan dif-
of both Chambers and upon private citizens presses the dairy market and takes some ferences, of course, with respect to the dairy
will correct
t of stature and experience. received isomethingnsure apps achingea fair Howe era b ppr soils trueowithnrespectltoial-
If an investigation should discover no
grounds for changing the present arrange- return , or at least a fairer return, in the most every issue that comes before Con-
ment, public apprehension would be less- way of payment for that which they gress. 'We should not enact legislation
tined. If an investigation should disclose produce. on a "bloc" basis. Congress should take
pThe legislation being sponsored today problems as they come and review them
t. .
need might b be e f basic save d from changes, future re en the embarrassment. country
me
In eitheY case, the United States would be by the Senator from Wisconsin [Mr. and determine whether legislation is
the gainer and Congress would have dis- PROXMIRE] takes one very limited step needed. The judgment should be based
charged a duty that it has been far too reluc- toward that objective, but, in my judg- ultimately on whether legislation is in
tant to perform. ment, it falls far short of what is needed. the national interest, and what is de-
Mr. PELL. I thank the Senator from OI the major farm commodities which manded by justice. If we were to act
Minnesota for yielding, and recall to his are under mandatory price supports, only when the States represented by a
mind that I was a cosponsor with him only the dairy industry shows a decline majority of the Members of Congress
in the previous Congress of a resolution in the support prices received today as were directly benefited, much of the leg-
compared to 3 years ago. islation in the way of development of
eerfor In 1960, the average support price for water resources, and of other important
that would have gone faro mmthis
supe visablishing a joint l Intelligence oe wheat was $1.78 a bushel. In 1963, the conservation undertakings, which char-
uperisian of the Central Inteligaverage support price was $2. acterized the last 50 years of our his-
Agency. in the case of corn, in 1960 it was tory, would never have been initiated.
Mr. MCCARTHY. Mr. President, I $1.06 a bushel. In 1963 it is $1.25 a It is said that many Members of Con-
was pleased to yield to the Senator from bushel. gress are now indifferent to farmers and
Rhode Island. There are special stub- In the case of cotton, the price per farm problems, particularly since the
Jlems regarding the Central Intelligence pound for upland, middling one-inch, wheat program was rejected. I do not
Agency. I join him in expressing the was $0.3242 in 1960. In 1963, it is $0.3247. know whether it Is true. Perhaps action
hope that the Agency itself may support In the case of peanuts, the 1960 aver- on the pending dairy program may af-
' changes such as he recommends, and age price support was $0.1006. It is $0.112 ford the first real test. Certainly I hope
that the administration may respond not in 1963. it is not true because the problems and
only to the criticisms about the Central In the case of rice, it was $4.42 in difficulties of dairy farmers are serious
`Intelligence Agency and some of the 196(). In 1963, it is $4.71. and need attention.
more or less obvious indications of its in the case of Flue-cured (11-14) to- The dairy program is not the same
operational failures, but what I think bacco, it was $0.555 in 1960. In 1963 it as the wheat program. Each must be'
are some of the inadequacies of the is $0.566. dealt with separately. Each represents
whole structure of intelligence gathering In the case of milk for manufacturing a particular approach to a specific prob-
and intelligence interpretation, and de- purposes, the average support price in lem.
termine its action based on such infor- 1960 per hundred pounds was $3.22. In in the case of the dairy industry, we
mation and interpretations. 1963 it is down to $3.14. are faced with the problem of continu-
If such action is not forthcoming In my opinion, the producers of nearly ing surpluses. The dominant influence
from the Agency and such support is ? all farm commodities deserve a higher upont today dair is y inthe s dustry upon su dairy
not forthcoming from the executive income and a better price for their com- r,
Congress niodities. But it is clear from the com- of dairy products, for which there is no
_e
6nouia niuvc uu aeon ~,~~? ??..-___-?- -- _
K
to improve the general operations of the
satisfactioand which currently is $3.14 per hundred-
di
f
s
or
have more reason
Agency.
reater need for remedial legislation- weight for manufacturing milk. The
t
g
REDUCTION OF EXCESS MARKET- and that Congress, therefore, has a surplus is so great that last year it cos
greater responsibility in this area. the Government nearly $500 million to
INGS OF MILK The proposed legislation should be maintain prices even at this near sub-
The Senate resumed the consideration considered not only as dealing with the standard or subsistence level.
of the bill (S. 1915) to amend the Agri- dairy industry, but also against the In the last marketing year, the surplus
cultural Adjustment Act, as reenacted whole broad background in our approach of milk was 8.9 billion pounds of the
and amended by the Agricultural Mar- to what is called the "farm problem." 118 billion pounds marketed, or about
keting Agreement Act of 1937, as amend- Some commentators through the 7.5 percent.
ed, and to encourage the reduction of years have referred to what they call the In April 1962, the price support level
excess marketings of milk, and for J arm bloc, and in recent months have dropped to the minimum of 75 percent
other purposes. observed that the farm bloc is "gone" or of parity set by law, from $3.40 per hun-
Mr. MCCARTHY. Mr. President, at has disintegrated. I believe it is mis- dred to $3.11. It was predicted by some
the proper time tomorrow, on behalf of leading to refer to a farm bloc, since a year ago that the surplus problem
myself, the Senator from Oregon [Mrs, there is no such organized bloc in Con- would take care of itself because the 30-
cent drop in support price would dis-
N?usi,;RCEx] and the Senator from gross.
South Dakota [Mr. MCGOVERNI I shall of course, Members of Congress have courage production.
call up an amendment to the pending a particular concern and a particular At best, that was a theory. Even if , it legislation, Amendment No. 193. responsibility for farmers who produce it ere sound as a
way to bring about adjust
There is widespread unrest and un- specific crops in their districts or States.
easiness and concern among dairy farm- However, the record of Congress over ment in the production of milk. It shows
ers. In my opinion such concern on the the past 25 years shows that many im- little concern for the welfare of thou-
part of dairy farmers is wholly justified, portant pieces of farm legislation were sands of dairy farmers who individually
They find themselves in an economic enacted with the active support of Mem- have no way of bringing supplies in line
situation which continues to grow more bers of Congress from urban districts with demand. It would represent a kind
and more distressing. Dairy farmers and urban States. In other words, farm of squeeze-out theory for bringing about
are not receiving the benefits or returns legislation was not "put over" by adding an adjustment in American agriculture.
from their work which are justified. up a farm bloc of sufficient votes to pass in any case, this approach has failed,
Nor are they receiving the benefits of its legislation, or placed on the statute as many who discussed it at the time
the Government program which was de- books by a kind of log-rolling operation. said it would fail. Despite bad weather
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 Another good sign. of the economic
vitality of El Salvador is the increasing
amount of outside private capital being
invested in the country. A combination
of Esso and Shell already has an invest-
ment of more than $10 million; Phelps
Dodge is building a $2 million copper and
aluminum wire. and cable plant. The
Phillips Co. of the Netherlands is con-
structing a $600,000 electric light bulb
and appliance plant. Italian and
U.S. interests are establishing a $300,000
pencil and office supply plant.
Under the able hand of President Julio
Rivera, and with the cooperation of Alli-
ance for Progress officials, El Salvador
is demonstrating to Latin America and
to the world the - effectiveness of the
Alliance for Progress. El Salvador is
note the only Alliance success story.
Venezuela, Mexico, Argentina, Colom-
bia-are all moving ahead of the antici-
pated schedule for the Alliance for
Progress.
In El Salvador, as in many other parts
of Latin America, the desired progress
isabeing achieved through peaceful and
creative evolution-an evolution more
rapid, more comprehensive,. and touch-
ing the lives of more people, than any
that our history has ever known.
ESTABLISHING JOINT COMMITTEE
TO SUPERVISE INTELLIGENCE AC:)
TIVITIES
(Mrs. KELLY asked and was given per-
mission to address the House for 1 min-
ute and to revise and extend her remarks
and to include extraneous matter.)
Mrs. KELLY. Mr. Speaker, I believe
it is most unfortunate that, for the past
few weeks, there is evidence of misunder-
standing in our military operations and
military objectives, including our Central
Intelligence Agency. Mr. Speaker, I feel
there is no need to enlarge on this sub-
ject, but to state the fact that back in
1952, I foresaw the need to establish a
Dint committee o congress supervise
all intelligence activities. souglit the
advice o the law ens or McMahon, of
Connecticut, who had so ably worked and
helped to establish the great Joint Com-
mittee on Atomic Energy. He gave me
much good advice and I sought also the
advice of many lawyers who assisted in
writing a resolution which was intro-
duced by me on July 20, 1953, and was
numbered House Concurrent Resolution
168. I continued to press for the adop-
tion of this resolution in each succeed-
ing Congress. This same resolution was
numbered House Concurrent Resolution
29 in the 84th Congress; House Concur-
rent Resolution 3 in the 85th Congress;
House Concurrent Resolution 3 in the
86th Congress; House Concurrent Reso-
lution 3 in the 87th Congress; and House
Concurrent Resolution 3 in the 88th Con-
gress. While I do not believe in the num-
bers, Mr. Speaker, I do believe that "three
and out" is a good omen. Let us "out"
with this resolution in the Rules Com-
mittee, and pass it on the floor.
Congressman ZABLOcxi also introduced
this resolution, as did Congressman Judd.
It was over a year before any other Mem-
ber of A he House introduced a similar
resolution and it was after much urging
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that Members of the other body followed
our advice. The history surrounding this
joint resolution is well established in the
archives of Congress, but I regret to say,
Mr. Speaker, that I firmly believe that,
had this joint committee been estab-
lished in the past, many of the problems
involivng U.S. intelligence would not be
in the forefront of world news today.
I therefore urge that the Members of
Congress look into the need for such a
resolution, sponsor one, and urge action
by the present Congress.
To give a brief background on the story
on this subject. I will insert again a
statement I made in the past.
STATEMENT BY HON. EDNA F. KELLY, IN SUP-
PORT OF HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION 3
To ESTABLISH A JOINT COMMITTEE ON IN-
TELLIGENCE MATTERS BEFORE THE COMMIT-
TEE ON RULES, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,
MARCH 1, 1961
Mr. Chairman and distinguished members
of this committee. I am grateful to the com-
mittee for its invitation to appear here today
and give testimony in support of House
Concurrent Resolution 3 which I introduced.
Perhaps it is somewhat appropriate that
this matter was originally scheduled for
hearing before this committee on the an-
niversary of the birthday of our first Presi-
dent. This coincidence prompts me to look
back to the principle upon which our coun-
try was founded and upon which our Con-
stitution is based. I, therefore, urge each
o" the members of the committee, bear In
mind when considering my resolution, the
constitutional system of checks and balances
between the executive and legislative
branches of this Government.
While hindsight is infinitely clearer than
foresight, when discussing House Concurrent
Resolution 3, I cannot help but reflect and
think that had this resolution been adopted
8 years ago, when I first introduced it in the
83d Congress, many unfortunate incidents
involving the security and prestige of the
United States might have been avoided.
I cannot emphasize too strongly, how-
ever, the continuing need for the establish-
ment of a Joint Congressional Committee
on Intelligence Matters. With the high
degree of world tensions, with the farflung
scope of our foreign policy and other activi-
ties, when a single miscalculation may bring
disaster, such a committee, as an arm of
the Congress, is urgently required. The
resolution calls for a continuing study, by
such committee, of our Government's intel-
ligence activities "and problems relating to
the gathering of intelligence affecting the
national security and of its coordination
and utilization by the various departments,
agencies, and instrumentalities of the Gov-
ernment."
As you know under the present system,
the Central Intelligence Agency, which was
created in 1947 is responsible only to the
National Security Council. There Is no
supervision or control by the legislative
branch. The extent of its independence is
demonstrated by the lack of review of the
agency's expenditures by the Congress. In
short, CIA makes its own policy and proce-
dures, spends as much money as it may re-
quire, reviews its own errors if its conscience
so dictates, and selects such remedies as it
deems proper to correct its errors and to im-
prove its operations. In this system the
errors are never admitted while others which
must be or are obvious may, after proper
preparation, be presented as premature or
unexpected.
While the need for secrecy in our intelli-
gence activities is obvious, I feel, as many of
my colleagues, that until a Joint Committee
on Intelligence is created, there will be no
way of determining what defects In the CIA
October 8
may be covered by the ' i of secrecy with
which it is shrouded. O r iuccess with the
Joint committee on. Aton-'c Energy certainly
justifies the presen._ unc= :-aking.
Lest the committee or public consider
this proposal to be quick v conceived or in-
spired by the recent U incident, I con-
sider it important to exp :r:, the background
of this resolution.
Late in 1950, while sera ii.,. on the commit-
tee which was resp.3nsibi, fal Com-
mittee on Intelligence, so long >;ged but so
often frustrated by con,,ressv ? - i pride of
place and petty jealousie she t' . be estab-
lished to monitor our inte+lligen services, to
safeguard their security and educe the
dangers secret espionage and ~ert opera-
tions present to a free so.;iety_
Mr. MORSE. Mr. F'resic i , will the
Senator yield?
Mr. GRUENING. I -Lid with
pleasure.
M. M I join the r a.tor from
Alaska In the comments h< s making
critical of the CIA. I tpartic :.s] irly com-
mend the New York Times I = The pene-
trating editorial which the e,iator has
placed in the RECORD.
As the Senator from Ala z knows, I
also have been disturbed for a long time
about the unchecked power., > the CIA.
I have said on the floor of tie Senate
many times-and I repeat i fay-that
it is not safe in a demo :racy c have any
segment of government ex. - c 'sing un-
checked powers. Whea I s:: tk of un-
checked powers, I mean -sowers un-
checked by the legislative b. i ch of the
Government, because we cal- a't operate
this system of government keeping
with its constitutional intent r d purpose
if we take away from the LeF s'ature the
power to check any segir . r t of the
Government.
I am disturbed b vv. hat Lear from
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propriations Committee has some sort of
e e 11-1 ere are members
of the Appropriations ommi ee who
_'T repeat: The Congress is ducking its.
responsibilities in respect to the CIA.
The Congress owes to the American peo-
ple the placing of a clear legislative
check on the CIA. The only way we can
check it is to set up a congressional
watchdog committee with authority and
power to require from the CIA every bit
of intelligence information the Congress
thinks it ought to have in order to pro-
tect the operation of this system of gov-
ernment by checks and balances, because
the alternative is the development of a
creeping police state within the Govern-
ment of the United States. That is de-
veloping. One cannot explain on gov-
ernmental theory the unchecked power
of the CIA except on the basis of the
fact-and it is an ugly fact-that there
is a creeping police state power develop-
ing within this democracy. It is a cancer
which must be removed. The only' way
we can remove it is for the Congress to
assume its clear constitutional duties as
well as powers in respect to the CIA.
Mr. GRUENING. I could not agree
more with my friend the senior Senator
from Oregon. The CIA, operating in
secret, as the Senator properly says, per-
forming wholly contrary to our American
traditions and our professions, is sup-
posed to be a fact-finding Agency. It
has been notably unsuccessful as a fact-
finding Agency. It was wrong on Cuba.
It misled us grieviously with the result
that Cuba has Castro and his Commu-
nist tyranny. It certainly contributed
to the Bay of Pigs fiasco. It was appar-
ently wrong on Honduras. Only 24
hours before the revolt the State De-
partment let it be known-and presum-
ably the State Department had access to
the CIA's information-that no revolt
was coming. Yet it "popped."
In addition to that, we know the CIA
is far more than a fact-finding Agency.
An article in the New Republic, a re-
sponsible publication, about a year ago,
stated flatly that the CIA was responsi-
ble for an assassination in a Caribbean
country.
The VICE PRESIDENT. The 5 min-
utes for which the Senator was recog-
nized have expired.
Mr. GRUENING. Mr. President, I
shall take only 1 minute more.
Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, a
parliamentary inquiry.
The VICE PRESIDENT. The Senator
will state it.
Mr. MANSFIELD. Is the Senate oper-
ating under controlled time?
The -VICE PRESIDENT. It is. The
Senator from Washington [Mr. MAG-
wusoNi yielded such time as he wished
to the Senator from Alaska, within his
time limitation.
Mr. GRUENING. I shall need only 1
minute more.
I do not know whether that charge
was true. The mere fact that a respon-
sible publication could make the charge
that the CIA was responsible for the as-
sassination of a political leader in a Car-
ibbean republic should have been enough
to bring about a congressional investi-
gation and the kind of action I urge,
which the Senator from Florida [Mr.
SMATHERSI has proposed, and the senior
Senator from Oregon CMr. MORSE] so
heartily andcorrectly endorses.
COMMITTEE MEETING DURING
SENATE SESSION
Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, will
the Senator from Washington yield me
a minute? -
Mr. MAGNUSON. I yield to the Sen-
ator from Montana.
The VICE PRESIDENT. The Senator
from Montana is recognized for 1 min-
ute.
Mr. MANSFIELD. Mr. President, I ask
unanimous consent that the Subcommit-
tee on Reorganization and International
Organizations of the Committee on Gov-
ernment Operations may be authorized
to meet during the session of the Senate
today.
The VICE PRESIDENT. Without
objection, it is so ordered.
ORDER OF BUSINESS
Mr. KEATING. Mr. President, will the
Senator yield to me?
Mr. MAGNUSON. Mr. President, how
much time have I under my control on
the bill?
The VICE PRESIDENT. The Senator
from Washington has 25 minutes.
Mr. KEATING. Mr. President, if it is
inconvenient for the Senator to yield, I
am authorized to use time on this side.
Mr. MAGNUSON. Why not use 5 min-
utes-of the time under the control of the
Senator from Delaware?
Mr. KEATING. Mr. President, I yield
myself 5 minutes.
The VICE PRESIDENT. The Senator
from New York yields himself 5 minutes.
Mr. LAUSCHE. Mr. President, how
much time is there?
The VICE PRESIDENT. The Senator
from Washington has 25 minutes.- The
Senator from New York yields himself 5
minutes. The Senator from New York
is recognized for 5 minutes.
Mr. KEATING. I thank the Chair.
RADIO ASTRONOMY SERVICE
Mr. KEATING. Mr. President, last
Friday the Federal Communications
Commission completed action in a rule-
making proceeding of widespread public
interest involving the future of the radio
astronomy service. Its decision, I am
heartened to report, was that channel
37, an optimum radio astronomy fre-
quency, would be retained in the fre-
quency allocation but would not be li-
censed for commercial purposes for a
period of 10 years, that is, until at least
January 1, 1974.
Mr. President, radio astronomy re-
search is a vital part of our national
scientific effort to uncover some of the
dark secrets of outer space, with great
present and potential practical value for
the U.S. space program. Around the
country, indeed around the world, both
publicly and privately supported radio
astronomy facilities have an intense
stake in an exclusive frequency which
will be protected on a longrun basis
from any and all manmade interfer-
ence. Any erosion of the protection af-
forded such a frequency as channel 37
would be extremely detrimental to the
future progress of radio astronomy and
wasteful of the sizable investment in
facilities which has so far been made;
and it may well be that the 10-year
protection just ordered by the FCC will
not prove to be a sufficient guaranty of
protection for the long-range needs of
the program.
Nevertheless, the FCC is to be com-
mended for its recognition of the broad
public interest inherent in the radio
astronomy service. I know that the in-
stitutions and companies in New York
State which now maintain radio astron-
omy facilities or which are planning to
install them in the future together with
the thousands employed by them-to
mention only several, Cornell University,
the Hayden Planetarium, andthe Gen-
eral Electric Co.-will welcome theFCC
decision of last week.
It is my intention, however, to seek
out scientific opinion in order to deter-
mine whether the action that was taken
stopped short of fulfilling the permanent
objectives of the program, and I will
certainly want to make sure, if further
protection should be- necessary, that it
will be afforded at the proper time.
KINGS COUNTY COUNCIL OF THE
JEWISH WAR VETERANS
Mr. KEATING, Mr. President, each
year the Kings County Council of the
Jewish War Veterans are hosts to hospi-
talized veterans at Yankee Stadium.
For a day, the council provides activi-
ties and amusements for these- Veter-
ans-many of whom rarely see the out-
side of hospital walls.
Mr. President, the Kings County Coun-
cil of the Jewish War Veterans-in fact,
all Americans-have not forgotten their
obligation to their war veterans-men
who have given so much in the name of
America and freedom. Because of my
admiration for the activities of the Jew-
ish War Veterans of America, I have
introduced legislation in this Congress
which would incorporate this group. If
enacted, this legislation would grant Fed-
eral recognition to this organization. It
is my hope that my bill will be favor-
ably acted upon in the near future.
Mr. President, I salute the Kings
County Council of the Jewish War Vet-
erans for brightening the day for many
of our hospitalized veterans. Their un-
selfish gesture deserves the gratitude
of the entire Nation.
SITUATION IN SOUTH VIETNAM
Mr. KEATING. Mr. President, in an
unprecedented move, South Vietnam's
Ambassador to the United States, Tran
Van Chuong, resigned his post in oppo-
sition to the policies of President Ngo
Dinh Diem.
I ask unanimous consent to include in
the RECORD an interesting interview by
Jock Lawrence with Ambassador Chuong
which appeared in a recent issue of the
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