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I~enes ay, November 19, 1969
HIGHLIGHTS
Daily Digest
Both Houses, cleared Agriculture appropriations bill.
Senate approved bills on draft reform and gun control.
House cleared for the President the Appalachian Development Act; agreed
to the conference. report on a bill that provides for an extension of the
interest equalization tax; and debated the foreign aid bill.
Senate
Chamber Action
Routine Proceedings, pages S 14597-S 14646
Bills Introduced: Five bills and four resolutions were
introduced, as follows: S. 3151-3155; S.J. Res. 165; and
S. Res. 286-288. Pages S 14600, S 14606
Bills Reported: Reports were made as follows:
S. Res. 272, authorizing additional expenditures by
the Internal Security Subcommittee of the Committee
on the Judiciary (S. Rept. 91-540) ;
S. Res. 281, to print 1,500 additional copies of the
Senate committee report on H.R. 13270, proposed Tax
Reform Act of 1969 (S. Rept. 91-541);
S. Res. 284, authorizing additional $75,000 for operat-
ing funds for Committee on Commerce (S. Rept. g1-
542);
S. Con. Res. 44, to print as a Senate, document r;ianu-
script entitled "Separation of Powers and tl~~gg I~ de-
pendent Agencies: Cases and Selected Readies
Rept. 91-543) ; V
S. Con. Res.. 46, to print as a Senate document report
entitled "Handbook for Small Business", (S. Rept. 91-
544);
H.R. 13949, providing electrical and mechanical
equipment for use in offices of Members of the House
and in House committees (S. Rept. 91-545);
H.R. 14195, proposed Federal Contested Election Act
of 1965 (S. Rept. 91-546) ;
S. 1421, removing statutory limitation of $i6,ooo an-
nually for the salary of the Director of the D.C. Legal
Aid Agency (S. Rept. 91-547);
S. 2602, proposed District of Columbia Public De-
fender Act of 1969 (S. Rept. 91-548); and
S. Res. 286-288, providing for payment of gratuities
to survivors of three deceased Senate. employees (no
written reports). Pages S 14600, S 14606
Bills Referred: H.R. 14794, Department of Transpor-
ation appropriations, was referred to Committee on..
Appropriations; and two private bills, H.R. 1453 and
1865, were referred to Committee on the judiciary.
Page S 14646
Measures Cleared for President:
Johnson Historic Site: Senate agreed to the House
amendment to S. 2000, to establish the Lyndon B. John-
son National Historic Site in Gillespie County, Tex.
Page 514598
Eisenhower Historic Site: Senate agreed to the House
amendments to S.J. Res. 26, to develop the Eisenhower
National Historic Site at Gettysburg. Page S 14598
Taft Historic Site: Senate agreed to the House amend-
ment to the Senate amendment to H.R. 7066, to establish
the William Howard Taft National Historic Site in
Cincinnati. Page S 14598
Private bills: Senate agreed to the House amendments
to S. 499, 632, and 757, private bills. Page S 14645
Draft reform: Senate passed without amendment
(motion to reconsider tabled) H.R. 14001, to authorize
the President to effect a change in the method of selec-
tion of inductees into the Armed Forces.
Pages S 14632-S 14641
Gun Control: Senate passed with committee amend-
ments (motion to reconsider tabled) and cleared for the
House S. 849, to strengthen the penalty provisions of .
the Gun Control Act of 1968. Pages S 14641-S 14643
Interstate Compact: Senate passed with a committee
amendment and cleared for the House S. 2734, granting
the consent of Congress to the Connecticut-New York
railroad passenger transportation compact.
Pages S 14643-S 14645
Supreme Court Nomination: Senate continued con-
sideration of the nomination of Clement F. Hayns-
worth, Jr., of South Carolina, to be an Associate Justice
of the Supreme Court.
Pages S 14629-S 14632, 514646-S 14673
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D 1090 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -DAILY DIGEST ovem,3er 19, 1969
Agriculture Appropriations: Senate agreed to the con-
ference report on I I.R. 11612, fiscal 1970 appropriations
for the- Department of Agriculture and related agencies.
Senate concurred in House amendment to Senate
amendment No. 12, an amendment of a technical na-
ture. This action cleared the measure for the President.
Pages 514673-S 14680
Senate Authorizations: By unanimous consent, it was
agreed that Secretary of Senate be authorized, during
adjournm._nt of the Senate until noon tomorrow, to
receive and appropriately refer messages from the
House of Representatives; and during that same period
the Vice President, President pro tempore, or Acting
President pro tempore may be permitted to sign duly
enrolled bills and resolutions. Page S 14684
Military Procurement--Closed-Session Proceed-
ings: Senate agreed to request that the expurgated
transcript of Senate proceedings in closed session on
July 17, 1)69, prepared under the direction of Senator
Stennis, chairman of the Committee on Armed Serv-
ices, be published in permanent Record of that date.
Confirmations: Senate confirmed the nominations of
Robert C. Gresham, of Maryland, to be an Interstate
Commerce Commissioner; and Caspar W. Weinberger,
of California, to be a Federal Trade Commissioner.
Page S 14685
Program for Thursday: Senate met at Io a.m. and ad-
journed at 5:io p.m. until noon Thursday, Noem-
ber 20, when it will continue consideration of the nomi-
nation of Judge Haynsworth. Pages S 14665, S 14685
Corn ittee Meetings
(Committees not listed did not meet)
APPROPRIATIONS-HEW
Committee on Appropriations: Subcommittee contin-
ued hearings on H.R. 13111, fiscal Ig7o appropriations
for the Departments of Labor and Health, Education,
and Wel"are, with testimony from Thomas Laughlin,
Deputy Commissioner, Medical Services Administra-
tion; Stephen P. Simonds, Commissioner, Community
Services Administration; Edward Newman, Commis-
sioner, Rehabilitation Services Administration; Dr.
Arthur ). Lesser, Director, Office of Child Health; John
B. Martin, Commissioner, Administration on Aging;
and Judge Frank A. Orlando, Director, Office of Juve-
nile Delinquency and Youth Development, all of the
Social and Rehabilitation Service, Department of HEW.
Hearings continue tomorrow.
INSURANCE INSOLVENCY PROTECTION
Committee on Commerce: Committee resumed hear-
ings on S. 2236, to create a Federal Insurance, Guaranty
Corporation to protect the American public against
cohpany insolvencies, having as its
c 's ? 5P,
oleo er a n In-
surance Association, who was accompmied by his asso-
ciates; Lorne R. Worthington, Iowa State Insurance
Commission, representing the National Association of
Insurance Commissioners; and Charles L. Rue, Jr.,
National Association of Mutual Insurance Agents.
Hearings continue I tomorrow.
D.C. TEACHERS' SALARIES
Committee on the District of Columbia: Subcommittee
on Fiscal Affairs held and concluded hearings on an
amendment for teacher salary increases to S. 2694, pro-
viding salary increases for D.C. police and firemen.
Testimony was received from Walter E. Washington,
Commissioner, who was accompanied by Thomas
Fletcher, Deputy Commissioner, Tom Moyer, Donald
Weinberg, and James Mandish, all of the D.C. govern-
ment; Bruce Terris, D.C. Democrictic Committee;
Joseph P. Yeldell, D.C. Councilman; Benjamin Henley,
Acting Superintendent, D.C. schools; Mrs. Anita Ford
Allen, D.C. Board of Education; Don Goodloe, repre-
senting the Washington Teachers Union; Theodore
R. Newman, Jr., D.C. Republican Committee; John L.
Sullivan, Policemen's Association of D.C.; and Capt.
Joseph Granados and Albert Rader, both of the Fire
Fighters Association.
VETERANS' HOME LOANS
Committee on Finance: Subcommittee on Veterans'
Legislation held and concluded hearings on S. 30o8, to
increase the availability of guaranteed home loan financ-
ing for veterans, and to increase the income of the
NSLI. fund. Testimony was received from Senator
Yarborough; Paul A. Volcker, Under Secretary of the
Treasury for Monetary Affairs, who was accompanied
by Veterans' Administration officials; Larry Blackmon,
National Association of Home Builders; Harold A.
Pollman, Home Builders Association of Texas; Graham
T. Northup, Mortgage Bankers Association; and Frank
Stover, Veterans of Foreign Wars.
VIETNAM
Committee on Foreign Relations: Committee 'net in
executive session to hear Secretary of Defense Melvin
R. Laird on U.S. Government policy in Vietnam.
SALT TALKS
Committee on Foreign Relations: Subcommittee on
International Organization and Disarmament Affairs
met in executive session to receive an administration
briefing concerning strategic arms limitations talks.
BLACK MARKET CURRENCY
Committee on Government Operations: Permanent
Subcommittee on Investigations continued hearings on
the black market in currency in South Vietnam. Wit-
nesses were Sgt. Albert Chang, U.S. Army; Brandon
H. Backlunci, Omaha, Dr. Gabriel Kcrekcc, w York
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Mr. SCHERLE (at the request of Mr. . Mr. MCKNEALLY.
GERALD R. FORD), for November 20 and Mr. SKUBITZ in four instances.
balance of week, on account of official (The following Members (at the re-
business as a member of House Commit- quest of Mr. WOLFF) and to include ex-
tee an Education and Labor, traneous matter:)
Mr. REIFsL (at the request of Mr. Mr. MATSUNAGA in two instances.
GERALD R. FORD), for November 19 Mr. OTTINGER in two instances.
through December 12, on account of offi- Mr. MCCARTHY in three instances.
cial business. Mr. DANIEL of Virginia.
Mr. PEPPER, for November 20 and 21, Mr. CHAPPELL.
on account of official business on Crime Mr. PICKLE in three instances.
Committee hearings. Mr. UDALL in eight instances.
Mr. FOUNTAIN (at the request of Mr. Mr. RARICK in two instances.
GRAY), until 2 p.m., on account of official Mr. RIVERS in two instances.
business involving the Advisory Com- Mr. GONZALEZ.
mission on Intergovernmental Relations. Mr. DINGELL in two instances.
Mr. EILBERG, for November 21 through Mr. EDMONDSON in two instances.
December 6, on account of official busi- Mr. WALDIE in two instances,
ness. Mr. HUNGATE in two instances.
SPECIAL ORDERS GRANTED
By unanimous consent, permission to
address the House, following the legisla-
tive program and any special orders
heretofore entered, was granted to:
(The following Members (at the re-
quest of Mr. WHITEHURST to revise and
extend their remarks and include ex-
traneous material:)
Mr. FINDLEY, for 5 minutes, today.
Mr. WILLIAMS, for 5 minutes, today.
(The following Members (at the re-
quest of Mr. WOLFF) to revise and extend
their remarks and include extraneous
matter:)
Mr. FLOOD, for 10 minutes, today.
Mr. GONZALEZ, for 10 minutes, today.
EXTENSION OF REMARKS
By unanimous consent, permission to
revise and extend remarks was granted
to: 1
Mr. JONES of Alabama during his re-
Mr. BLATNIK (at the request of Mr.
JONES of Alabama) following the re-
marks of Mr. FALLON on the conference
report on S. 1072.
Mr. MAHON (at the request of Mr.
WOLFF), the remarks he made in the
House today on the conference report ac-
companying the bill H.R. 11612, making
appropriations for the Department of
Agriculture and related agencies.
(The following Members (at the re-
quest of Mr. WHITEHURST) and to in-
clude extraneous matter:)
Mr. TALCOTT.
Mr. HALL.
Mr. ASHBROOK in three instances.
Mr. HORTON.
Mr. EDWARDS of Alabama.
Mr. WYMAN in two instances.
Mr. DELLENBACK in two instances,
Mr. STEIGER of Wisconsin- in two in-
stances.
Mr. Esca.
Mr. ROTH.
Mr. SCHWENGEL in three instances,
Mr. HOGAN.
Mr. GOLDWATER.
Mr. FISH.
Mr. ANDERSON of California.
Mr. TIERNAN.
Mr. KLUCZYNSKI.
Mr. GIBBONS in two instances.
Mr. WILLIAM D. FORD.
Mr. SLACK in two instances.
Mr. O'HARA in two instances.
Mr. KYROS in two instances.
Mr. FOLEY in two instances.
Mr. BENNETT in three instances.
Mr. OLSEN.
ENROLLED BILLS SIGNED
Mr. FRIEDEL, from the Committee
on House Adminstration, reported that
that committee had examined and found
truly enrolled bills of the House of the
following titles, which were thereupon
signed by the Speaker:
H.R. 12307. An act making appropriations
for sundry independent executive bureaus,
boards, commissions, corporations, agencies,
offices, and the Department of Housing and
Urban Development for the fiscal year ending
June 30, 1970, and for other purposes; and
Selective Service Act of 1967 to authorize
modifications of the system of selecting per-
sons for induction into the Armed Forces
under this Act.
SENATE ENROLLED BILL SIGNED
The SPEAKER announced his signa-
ture to enrolled bills of the Senate of
the following titles:
S. 92. An act for the relief of Mr. and Mrs.
Wong Yui; and
S. 1072. An act to authorize funds to carry
out the purposes of the Appalachian Re-
gional Development Act of 1965, as amended,
and titles I, III, IV, and V of the Public
Works and Economic Development Act of
1965, as amended.
ADJOURNMENT
Mr. WOLFF. Mr. Speaker, I move that
the House do now adjourn.
The motion was agreed to; accord-
ingly (at 7 o'clock and 10 minutes p.m.)
the House adjourned until tomorrow,
Thursday, November 20, 1969, at 12
o'clock noon.
the UII tr nsi a report
EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS,
ETC.
1349. Under clause 2 of rule XZIV, a
letter from the Comptroller General of
on omission of significant costs from
charges to the Federal Republic of Ger-
many for pilot training, Department of
Defense, was taken from the Speaker's
table and referred to the Committee on
Government Operations.
REPORTS OF COMMITTEES ON PUB-
LIC BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS
Under clause 2 of rule XIII, reports of
committees were delivered to the Clerk
for printing and reference to the proper
calendar, as follows:
Mr. MADDEN: Committee on Rules. House
Resolution 714. Resolution for consideration
of H.R. 4249, a bill to extend the Voting
Rights Act of 1966 with respect to the dis-
criminatory use of tests and devices (Rcpt.
No. 91-658). Referred to the House Calendar.
Mr. DAWSON: Committee on Government
Operations. H.R. 14517. A bill to provide tem-
porary authority to expedite procedures for
consideration and approval of projects draw-
ing upon more than one Federal assistance
program, to simplify requirements for the
operation of those projects, and for other
purposes: (Rept. No. 91-659). Referreu to the
Committee of the Whole House on the State
of the Union.
PUBLIC BILLS AND RESOLUTIONS
Under clause 4 of rule XXII, public
bills and resolutions were introduced and
severally referred as follows:
By Mr. DINGELL:
H.R. 14863. A bill to amend the Solid Waste
Disposal Act to prohibit the use in interstate
commerce of certain aluminum containers;
to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign
Commerce.
By Mr. ICHORD (for himself, Mr.
QUILLEN, Mr. BENNETT, Mr. FISHER,
Mr. FUQUA, Mr. WAGGONNER, Mr.
COLMER, Mr. RIVERS, Mr. PREYER Of
North Carolina, Mr. EDWARDS of Lou-
isiana, Mr. AsnnaooK, Mr. RouDE-
BUSH, Mr. WATSON, and Mr.
SCHERLE):
H.R. 14864. A bill to amend the Internal
Security Act of 1950 to authorize the Fed-
eral Government to institute measures for
the protection of defense production and of
classified information released to industry
against acts of subversion, and for other
purposes; to the Committee on Internal Se-
curity.
By Mr. JONES of North Carolina:
H.R. 14865. A bill to amend the Communi-
cations Act of 1934 to establish orderly pro-
cedures for the consideration of applica-
tions for renewal of broadcast licenses; to
the Committee on Interstate and Foreign
Commerce.
By Mr. KING (for himself and Mr.
MCKNEALLY) :
H.R. 14866. A bill to amend chapter 44 of
title 18, United States Code, to strengthen
the pehalty provisions applicable to a Fed-
eral felony committed with a firearm; to the
Committee on the Judiciary.
By Mr. MIKVA (for himself, Mr.
ANDERSON of California, Mr. ANNUN-
zlo, Mr. BINGHAM, Mr. BROWN Of
California, Mr. BYRNE of Pennsyl-
vania, Mr. CONYERS, Mr. FARBSTEIN,
Mr. HALPERN, Mr. KocH, Mr. LOWEN-
STEIN, Mr. MACDONALD of Massachu-
setts, Mr. MATSUNAGA, Mrs. MINK,
Mr. PIKE, Mr. PODELL, Mr. REES, Mr.
SCHEUER, Mr. SYMINGTON, and Mr.
WRIGHT) :
H.R. 14867. A bill to amend the Clean Air
Act to provide for the adoption of national
standards governing emissions from station-
a sources to create a Federal dlt not, to
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public and private remedies for the abate-
ment of air pollution, and for other pur-
poses; to the committee on Interstate and
Foreign Commerce.
By Mr. MONAGAN:
H.R. 14868. A bill to amend the act of
March 3, 1899, to authorize the United States
to recover by civil actions the cost of re-
moving certain obstructions from the navi-
gable waters of the United States, and for
other purposes; to the committee on Public
Works.
By Mr. OTTINGER.
H.R. 14869. A bill to amend title 5, United
States Code, to provide for retirement of em-
ployees under the civil service retirement
program upon attainment of 50 years of
age and completion of 25 years of service; to
the Committee on Post Office and Civil
Service.
By Mr. MILLS (for himself and Mr.
BYRNES Of Wisconsin) :
H.R. 14870. A bill to continue the expansion
of international trade and thereby promote
the general welfare of the United States, and
for other purposes; to the Committee on
Ways and Me ns.
By Mr. UDALL:
H.R. 14871. A bill to amend title 38 of the
United State:: Code to require pay differen-
tials for nur:;es in Veterans' Administration
hospitals who perform evening, night, week-
end, holiday or overtime duty and to au-
thorize payment for standby or on-call time,
and for other purposes; to the Committee
on Veterans' Affairs.
By Mr. WYATT:
H.R.14872. A bill to amend the Federal
Water Pollution Control Act, as amended,
to provide adequate financial assistance and
to increase the allotment to certain States
of construction grant funds; to the Commit-
tee on Public Works.
By Mr. ASPINALL (for himself, Mr.
ULLaIAN, Mr. JOHNSON cf California,
and Mr. DON H. CLAU`-P.N) :
H.R. 14873. A bill relating to the income
tax treatment of just compensation received
from the United Stater; with respect to prop-
erty taken ender the act of the Congress
which established the Redwood National
Park; to the Committee on Ways and Means.
By Mr. DENT:
H.R. 14874. A bill to provide for the protec-
tion of the health and safety of persons
working in ,,he coal mining industry of the
United States, and for other purposes; to the
Committee on Education and Labor.
By Mr.- O'NEILL of Massachusetts (for
himself, Mr. SIXES, Mr. CHAPPELL,
Mr. Kvsos, Mr. HATHAWAY, Mr.
FRIE'DEL, Mr. MORSE, Mr. HARRINGTON,
Mr. BURKE of Massachusetts, Mr. AD-
DABeo, Mr. PoDELL. Mr. ST GERMAIN,
Mr. TIERNAN. Mr. WATSON, Mr. DORN,
Mr. MANN, Mr. DOWNING, Mr. AB-
Brr,r, Mr. PoFF, Mr. MARSH, Mr. SCOTT,
Mr. WAMPLER, and Mr. BROYHILL Of
Virginia) :
H.R. 14875. A bill to create a Marine Re-
sources Con nervation and Development Fund;
to provide for the distribution of revenues
from Outer Continental Shelf lands; and for
other purposes; to the Committee on the
Judiciary.
By Mr O'NEILL of Massachusetts (for
and for other purposes; to the Committee tional compensation provided for certain Bis-
on the Judiciary. abled veterans with dependents; to the COm-
By Mr. O'NEILL of Massachusetts (for mittee on Veterans' Affairs:.
himself, Mr. SIXES. Mr. CHAPPELL, By Mr. WHALLEY:
Mr. KYRos, Mr. HATHAWAY, Mr. FRIE- H.R. 14890. A bill to permit the reading of
DEL, Mr. MORSE, Mr. HARRINGTON, Mr. verses from the Holy Bible at certain times
BvaxE of Massachusetts, Mr. AD- in the public schools throughout the United
DA'BBO, Mr. PODELL, Mr. ST GERMAIN, States, to the Commttee on Education and
Mr. TIERNAN, Mr. WATSON, Mr. Dome. Labor.
Mr. MANN, Mr. DOWNING, Mr. ABBrrT, By Mr. FUQUA (for himself, Mr.
Mr. Po1F, Mr. MARSH, Mr. SCOTT, MJIr. STUCKEY, Mr. BFNNETT, Mr. BLACK-
WAMPLER, and Mr. BROYHILL of Vir- BURN, Mr. BRINKLEY, Mr. BURKE of
ginia) : Florida, Mr. CHAPPELL, Mr. CRAMER,
H.R. 14877. A bill to grant to each coastal Mr. Davis of Georgia, Mr. FASCELL,
State mineral rights in the subsoil and sea- Mr. FLYNT, Mr. ''REY, Mr. GIBBONS,
bed of the Outer Continental Shelf extending Mr. HAGAN, Mr. HALEY, Mr. LANDRUM,
to a line Which is 12 miles from the coast Mr. O'NEAL of Georgia, Mr. PEPPER,
of such State, and for other purpose; to the Mr. ROGERS of Florida, Mr. SIXES,
Committee on the Judiciary. Mr. STEPHENS. end Mr. THoMPSoN
By Mr. O'NEILL of Massachusetts (for of Georgia) :
himself, Mr. PHILBIN, Mrs. HECKLER A.J. Res. 992. A joint resolution granting
of Massachusetts, Mr. BOLAND, Mr. the consent of the Congress to an agreement
HELSTOSKI, Mr. KEITH, and Mr. between the State of Florida and the State
GSTTYS) : of Georgia establishing _ boundary between
H.R. 14878. A bill to grant to each coastal such States; to the Committee on the Ju-
State mineral rights in the subsoil and sea- diciary.
bed of the Outer Continental Shelf extending By Mr. HAMMERSCHMIDT (for him-
to a line which is 12 miles from the coast self, Mr. MILLS, Mr. PRYOR of Arkan-
of such State, and for other purposes; to the sas, and Mr. ALeXANDER) :
Committee on the Judiciary. H.J. Res, 993. A joint resolution authoriz-
By Mr. SLACK: ing the President to proclaim annually the
H.R. 14879. A bill to provide additional month of May as Clean Waters for America
penalties for the use of firearms in the com- Month; to the Committee on the Judiciary.
mission of certain crimes of violence; to the By Mr. ZABLOCKI (for himself, Mr.
Committee on the Judiciary. ADAIR, Mr. BROOMFIELD, Mr. FACELL,
By Mr. TEAGUE of Texas (by request) : Mr. FINDLEY, Mr. FOUNTAIN, Mr. FRA-
H.R. 14880. A bill to equalize the rates of &ER,. Mr. FULTON of Pennsylvania, Mr.
disability compensation payable to veterans GALLAGHER, Mr. HAYS, Mr. Nix, Mr.
of peacetime and wartime service; to the TAFT, Mr. THoMSON of Wisconsin,
Committee on Veterans' Affairs. Mr. 13LANTON, Mr. CASEY, Mr. Dlcx-
H.R.14881. A bill to increase the maxi- INSON, Mr. MATSUNAGA, and Mr.
mum amount of the grant payable for spe- McEWEN) :
cially adapted housing for disabled veterans; H. Con. Res. 454. A concurrent resolution
to the Committee on Veterans' Affairs, calling for the humane treatment and release
H.R. 14882. A bill to provide a cost of liv- of American prisoners of war held by North
ing increase in the additional allowance pay- Vietnam and the National Liberation Front;
able to veterans in need of regular aid and ' to the Committee on Foreign Affairs.
attendance; to the Committee on Veterans' By Mr. FULTON of Pennsylvania:
:Affairs. H. Con. Res. 455. A c mcurrent resolution
H.R. 14883. A bill to amend section 824 of expressing the sense of Congress with respect
title 38, United States Code, to provide drugs to the revocation of the United Nations eco-
and medicines for certain veterans sojourn- nomic sanctions against Southern Rhodesia;
ing or residing abroad; to the Committee on to the Committee on Foreign Affairs.
By Mr. BROTZMIN (for himself, Mr.
Veterans' Affairs.
H.R.14884. A bill to amend section 3203, SAYLOR, Mr. PODELL, Mr. SCHEUER,
title 38, United States Code, to liberalize Mr. BROYHILL of North Carolina,
Mr. provisions requiring reduction of pen- ? ZwasH, Mr. KLEPPE, Mr. ROONEY
lion allowance for certain veterans during of Pennsylvania, Mr. WRIGHT, Mr.
hospitalization at Government expense; to HANSEN of Idaho, Mr. WHITEHURST,
Mr. Committee on Veterans' Affairs. . HECHLER of West Virginia, Mr.
H.R. 14885. A bill to amend section 3203, FOREMAN, and Mr. STANTON) :
title 38, United States Code, to liberalize H. Res. 715, A resolution to amend the
those provisions requiring the discontinuance Rules of the House of Representatives to
of aid and attendance allowance for certain create a standing committee to be known as
veterans during hospitalization at Govern- the Committee on the Environment; to the
ment expense; to the Committee on Vet- Committee on Rules.
erans' Affairs. By Mr. BROTZM N (for himself, Mr.
ANDERSON of i
K.R. 14886. A bill to amend section 3203, l,inois, Mr. HUNT, Mr.
title 38, United States Code, to liberalize MAYNE, Mr. WYA?rT, Mr. SLAMSEBELI,
Mr. ADDABBO, Mr. WILLIAMS, Mr.
those provisions requiring the discontinu- RIEGx,E, Mr. COWGER, Mr. DENT, Mr.
ante of pension payments to certain veterans SEBFLIUS, Mr. Ba CHANAN, Mr. CARTER,
during hospitalization, institutional or dorm- Mrs, HECKLER of Massachusetts, Mr.
ciliary care at Government expense; to the BuaeE of Florida, Mr. QuIE, Mr.
Committee on Veterans' Affairs. ROTH, and Mr, MCCLORY):
H.R. 14887. A bill to amend title 38 of the H. Res. 716. Resolution to amend the
United States Code to increase the pension Rules of the House of Representatives to
payable to certain seriously disabled veter- create a standing committee to be known as
himself, Mr. PHILBIN, Mrs. HECKLER ass; to the Committee on Veterans' Affairs. the Committee on the Environment; to the
of Massaohusetts, Mr. BOLAND, Mr. H.R. 14888. A bill to amend title 38 of the Committee on Rules.
HELSTOSKI, Mr. KEITH, and Mr. United States Code to liberalize the income By Mr. GALLAGIIER (for himself, Mr.
GErTYS) : provisions relating to payment of pension, HORTON, Mr. KARTH, Mr. KOCH, Mr.
H.R. 1487x:. A bill to create a Marine Re- and for other purposes; to the Committee MURPHY of New York, and Mr.
sources Conservation and Development on Veterans' Affairs. YATES) :
Fund; to provide for the distribution of rev- H.R. 14889. A bill to amend title 38, United H. Res. 717. Resolution establishing the
enues from Outer Continental Shelf lands; States Code, to increase the rates of addi- Select Committee on Technology, Human
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that their intention is to destroy our yers Guild, Chicago Peace Council, the November 15, 1969, demonstration in
country. Southern California Peace Action Coun- Washington, D.C.
What American who, truly loves his cil, Veterans for Peace In Vietnam, So- The conference claimed that it se-
country will want to march alongside cialist Workers Party, Young Socialist lected a "new, broadly-based" national
Arnold Johnann the nnhlin rc1n+4.,r,o ad
- -- __? YY 111=u s -!,rote for reace, ana the btu- for the organization which was
Party, U.S.A., or with Sidney M. Peck, dents for a Democratic Society. There sponsible for planning and dire
a university professor who served
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insight into its origins. 1vILmJ~
. Excerpts from MOBE action projects in varying degrees. "new ant' ar
the nr 1non ,. --
..
of
he
cceeded the "old" na-
the leadership of the
g virtually intaot. The
characterized itself as a
coalition" which will
a national antiwar conference.to be held as a member of the district council Communist Party and Socialist Workers
in Cleveland, Ohio, July 4-5, 1969. The Southern California CPUSA; Sidney I M7, to create a "united front"
call was initiated for the most part by Peck, a former State committeem approach.
Individuals associated with the National Wisconsin CPUSA; Dorothy Hayes of a An ~-evaluation of the Conference by
Mobilization Committee To End the War Chicago branch, Women's InternatI nal the Socialist Workers Party provided a
in Vietnam-MOBE-an organization League for Peace and Freedom, w o has revealing insight into the effectiveness
which has functioned as a coalition for been identified in. sworn testi ony in 1965 of the Conference from a Communist
throughout the country. _
Functioning as the lineal descendant
of A. J. Muste's November 8 Mobilization
Committee for Peace in Vietnam, MOBE
has a 3-year history involving violence
and civil disobedience. MORE sponsored
the October 21-22, 1967, demonstrations
in 'Washington, D.C., during which time
repeated attempts were made to close
as a Communist Party ember; viewpoint. The SWP declared:
Sidney Lens-Sidney Okun ea der of T
he attendance at the conference, the
the now defunct Revolution Workers serious political. debate, the program mapped
League; and Fred Halstea , 1968 presi- out and the spirited note on which the see-
dential candidate of the oeialist Work- skins ended offer every promise that the
ers Party. Moreover, string committee anti-war movement is on the road to one
member David Dellin r, MOBE chair- of the biggest things this country has ever
man, declared in a y 1963 speech: seen.
down the Pentagon. It also jointly There were
planned and executed the disruption of viduals attend!
against U.S. military involvement in
Vietnam, MOBE-oriented initiators of
the Cleveland conference believed that
.a more extensive formation of. MOBS.
fective antiwar program. According
the-published call, the purpose of
the antiwar forces in this country,
actions for the fall."
The conference was attende,
Mr. President, the grab bag of Com-
munists and Socialists whom I have men-
tioned and who are mentioned in the
American Security Council report, will
probably seem mild by comparison with
some of the radicals who may show up
and foment disorder during the Novem-
ber moratorium.
If the "Weatherman" faction of S?DS
joins the moratorium, it is almost cer-
tain to mean trouble. Last month, Mark
Rudd and a few hundred "Weathermen"
went to Chicago and engaged in violent
confrontations with police there.
These young revolutionaries went on
a wild rampage which resulted in wide-
spread damage to property of the citizens
of Chicago. Three of the "Weathermen"
were shot by police.
-A group of women, led by "Weather-
man's" Bernadine Dohrn, threatened to
destroy an Army Induction center. They
gathered in a park, sang praises to Ho
Chi Minh and Mao Tse-tung, and then
charged into police ranks trying to kick
the officers in the groins. Illinois Gover-
nor Ogilvie called up the National Guard
and before it was over, police arrested
more than 200 demonstrators.
If the extremists of the New Left can
cause that much trouble in Chicago
without a mob to exploit, imagine what
they might do in a crowd of moratorium
demonstrators, many of whom will be
charged up emotionally over the war.
It wounot take much to heat things
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rty, U.S.A.,, W. E. B. action projects commencing during the
Kushner, leader of the Chicago Peace
Council.
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up. A few bricks thrown by well-placed Mr. President, there were 59 major NAVY AIRCRAFT P' 'CUREMENT
agitators could touch off violent mob ac- items of difference between the Senate A-7E: The Senate conferees acceded
tion involving fights with police. Hun- and House versions. The effort I have to the House in restoring $104 million
dreds of innocent persons could be just described occurred over the period for the procurement of 27 A-7E air-
injured. from October 6 to November 4. In sub- craft. The Senate had deleted this item
This is not wild speculation. It is a stance, Aar. President, this legislation in and directed that the Navy obtain these
frightening possibility. Deliberate vio- conference was debated and considered aircraft from among those already pur-
lence may seem reprehensible to most with the same degree of thoroughness chased by the Air Force as a part of
Americans; but, to the militant, quisling and conviction on both sides that the bill the action of the Sena? e in directing the
enemies of our country within our midst, received on the Senate floor over the purchase of F-4's for tl- e Air Force rather
it is a necessary tool in bringing about period of 7r4 weeks of its consideration. than A--7's.
the ultimate destruction of our Republic. I am not given to undue praise of any- AIR FORCE ATRCRAI`Y, ?ROCUREMENT
The fact of the demonstrations alone one, but the House conferees are able 7D: As the Senate may recall, the
is enough to make the Communists turn men, unusually well versed In their corn- A-7D: deleted a request aec $, the
somersaults of joy in Paris, Peking, and mittee work. It is a pleasure to work with comntl for dthe eleted eof 374.4
Moscow. Violent incidents as a result of 'them. anion. the Air a em author-
on demonstrations would be like icing Another point I would emphasize, Mr. airs these for : Force nt the pauthor-
re-
on the cake of propaganda. President, is that Senate conferees went hefee s same aircraft. fund' for e House roosted
Some Americans may have rational- worked equally hard for all provisions, these of be utilized for the A-7 pro-
tal that marching on the Nation's Capi- both those that originated in the Sen-
tal will be a true act of patriotism. Quite ate committee and those which were gram and the Senate receded in its
to the contrary, it can only encourage adopted on the Senate floor. We con- Position.
the Communists and prolong the war sidered that we represented the Senate At this point, Mr. President, I wish to
which we all want to see brought to an as a whole and, as I shall indicate later, make crystal clear on the part of the
honorable end. The most patriotic act we obtained what I consider to be good Senate conferees that in agreeing to the
which such citizens can perform during results in having a large portion of the current A-7 request the Senate does not
the November moratorium is to ignore it. Senate amendments adopted as a part intend to go beyond the present three-
I thank the Senator for yielding. of the final bill. wing program of A-"'s and reserves a
Mr. STENNIS. Mr. President, I am SUMMARY OF ENTIRE BILL right of stopping short of even the three
glad the Senator from West Virginia had In terms of total authorization, Mr. wings. I might add at this point that
an opportunity to make his speech. It is President. I would like to make the fdl- funds in this bill plus those already ap-
certainly one I am going to pursue and lowing comparisons. proved will purchase about half of the
read with the greatest of Interest. The bill as finally agreed upon au- required planes for a, three-wing pro-
thorises a total of $20.7 billion as com- gram.
X pared to $21.3 billion as passed by the SOUTHEAST AS'. 1 FIGHTER
MILITARY PROCUREMENT AUTH- House and 119.98 billion as passed by the Mr. President, as passed by the House
ORIZATIONS--CONFERENCE RE- Senate. For procurement the bill author- the bill provided for $48 million in re-
FORT izes $13.4 billion as compared to $13.9 search and development and $4 million
The Senate resumed the consideration billion as passed by the House and $12.8 in long lead item for a so-called free
of the report of the committee on con- billion as passed by the Senate. For Re- world fighter. There were no funds in
ference on the disagreeing votes of the search and Development, test, and evalu- the Senate version of the bill. The con-
two Houses on the amendment of the ation the bill authorizes $7.2 billion as ferees as a compromise agreed to a re-
House to the bill (S. 2546) to authorize compared to $7.4 billion in the House bill duced sum with much more restrictive
appropriations duriilg'C II a ,.cal year 1970 and $7.1 billion In the Senate bill. As an legislative language on this matter. I
for military procurement, and for other overall comparison, the final bill was would emphasize the following. In sub-
purposes. $721 million more than the Senate ver- stance, the bill now contains funds for
Mr. STENNIS. Mr. President, I have sion, but $637 million less than the House the purpose of providing a simplified
a brief statement to make now regarding version contained. ? fighter aircraft for orr allies in South-
the conference report on S. 2546, which Mr. President, I shall later have in- east Asia in order that a more simple
is now the pending matter before the serted in the RECORD complete charts set- aircraft may be developed which will
Senate, but before presenting this dis- ting fortis the comparative fiscal data on meet their own peculiar needs in terms
Senate, and giving the results, I would the legislation. of defense and at the same time be of a
like to make a few preliminary observa- DISCUSSION of MAJOR ITEMS sufficiently simple design that they can
Lions Mr. President, I shall discuss the major maintain it with their' own trained per-
I can doubly assure the Senate that items in conference, after which I shall sonnel. In this way, Mr. President, we
every aspect of this legislation, in the attempt to answer any questions Sen- should be able to assist in accelerating
versions approved by both the Senate ators may -have. I would also point out the withdrawal of American support
and the House, was thoroughly consid- that Conference Report 91-607 has been troops from South Vietnam. In addition,
ered by the conferees. There were 10 printed and contains all details on the there should be - ultimate savings by
separate meetings by the Senate-House final legislation. making available to Southeast Asia a
conferees, and those meetings lasted in ARMY AIRCRAFT PROCUREMENT plane less expensive t. build and cheaper
the neighborhood of 3 hours each Cobra: The Senate accepted $86 mil- to maintain.
plain fact is s that aircraft in the
time, except the last one, which was for lion .added by the House for 170 Army The
inventory are too
a little finishing up and signing of the Cobra helicopters which are necessary active e United the Seven, inventory ar too
report. for replacements In Vietnam. This re- plca for States
The specific lane
? In addition, the Senate conferees alone quest was not received in the Senate personnel ' to the maintain. ain provides as follows:
met four times to resolve various prob- prior to the markup of the bill, and perThatson $28 theion will be available as if out of
lems. Moreover, a separate group of'Sen- these additional helicopters are necds- Air Force procurement a labletio of
ate-House conferees met on one item, the 'nary because of the cancellation of the the to initiate the procurement a t rioza an
Tow missile, and received additional Cheyenne helicopter program. aircraft, with thprocurement of
e further proviso that
testimony. Finally, the respective staffs I state, by way of further explanation, the required research and development
of the two committees were in daily con- that that sum was readily agreed to may be accomplished within this total
saltation on various aspects of this leg- by the Senate, because in the consider- sum.
islation. ation of our version of the bill, we did her, as a matter of law, the Air
Moreover Chairman RivERS and I had not get to the proof with reference t Further, will b required of l conduct w, a the Air
many conferences in our offices and by the Cobra helicopters. We recognized for this prior to th-
telephone regarding plans for the meet- all the time, and advised the Senate petition
ings and consideration of points of dif- when the bill was being considered, that obligation of any funds. This competition
ference. this wojild be necessary. wills be based on the threat as evaluated
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and determined by the Secretary of sent in large part what we anticipate will Mr. STENNIS. That is the position we
Defense. be requested in next year's budget. took over and over again. We met 12
Mr. President, there is no new money I should also add, Mr. President, that times. They were 3-hour meetings each
in this bill for this aircraft. It merely none of these items are expected to be time. These were not perfunctory af-
permits the use of $28_million out of the funded for fiscal year 1970, and I shall fairs except the last one. We had a multi-
general procurement funds available in read the list of the items included, but tude of conferences of all kinds. This
the Air Force. Furthermore, this use does before I name them, in total, the House was the best agreement we could get.
have to be approved by the Appropria- bill included $960 million for additional There is not a dollar of money for this
tions Committee. It would have to be vessels or ships that were not in the fiscal year, I am satisfied in my mind
appropriated specifically to be for this budget and were not in the Senate, bill. with respect to all of these matters, that
purpose. The House conferees were very insistent would not have been approved next year
. Moreover, there is a complete, open that that inclusion of the House of because they are so much a part of the
competition regarding this matter, and Representatives be included. That was necessary, building program.
that includes the fact that the Depart- one of the long discussed and debated Mr. ELLENDER. Did the House con-
ment of Defense would have the dis- parts of the conference. ferees accept the program outlined by
cretion to simplify or reduce the com- We obtained a list of the ships, and the Senate with respect to shipbuilding?
plex nature of the planes that we already found that certain of them, while re- Mr. STENNIS. The Senator is correct.
have, and thereby obtain a more simple, quested by the Navy for fiscal year 1970, Mr. ELLENDER. Without exception?
less complicated plane for the countries had been rejected by the Department of Mr. STENNIS. That is correct. That
in Southeast Asia. Of course, it can be Defense.. They are expected to be in the was in their bill to start with.
said that this plane would be used be- budget next year, fiscal year 1971; so I will read at least some of these. I
yond Southeast Asia. That is true, but agreement was finally reached that we have them listed in my statement.
it would have to be first authorized by would agree to $412 million of the $960 There is the construction of eight
the Committee on Foreign Relations, and million that was in the bill, under the destroyers, instead of five. That would
then any planes that were bought appro- situation and facts and circumstances I provide an added cost of $157 million for
priated for by the appropriations com- have already enumerated. The Depart- the three extra destroyers.
mittee; and 'that would apply even ment of Defense said that they would There is provision for the advanced
though it came through our foreign mili- not ask for appropriations for these procurement of three nuclear frigates, in-
tary aid. items this year. stead of two, at an added cost of $32
The Senate conferees were not really ARMY TRACKED COMBAT VEHICLE PROCUREMENT million.
favorable to this project, in the begin-
ning. We debated it at great length. I MBT-70: $20 million was included in Next is the construction of a destroyer
talked with Mr. Laird over the telephone the Army's production base support tender, not in the Senate bill, at an added
several times about it. He wanted it as procurement for the main battle tank- cost of $82 million. That is part of that
an open option, so he could proceed, if MBT-70. The Senate had provided $25.4 $960 million.
he saw fit, in this direction. I am not million for this; the House nothing. I call this to the attention of the Sen-
pledged, myself, as a member of the Ap- Sheridan: $24.2 million was agreed ator because he had asked about the car-
propriations Commitee, to support this upon for Army procurement of the rier. As part of the $960 million in the
matter this year, or any year, in the com- Sheridan armored reconnaissance vehi- House bill, they had $100 million for lead
mittee; and I expect to learn more about cle, which adds $9 million to the amount time items for the third carrier. There
it before I do. But I certainly have not approved by the House. was a great deal of interest in the House
said I would not support it under any Mr. President, I hope that in time the on that matter. And the House conferees
circumstances, because I think it is Senator from New Hampshire will make were quite insistent about it. As a matter
worthy of further consideration. a statement-regarding the research and of fact, it was the first item on the pref-
Mr. President, I would emphasize that development reductions in this bill, in erence list. However, a promise had been
the $28 million is not an added item to connection with which he rendered such made here by our committee during the
the Air Force procurement authoriza- outstanding service. We did get accepted, debate that we would not bring in a rec-
tion, but must be absorbed within the in the settlement, the Fulbright amend- ommendation for any funds for an addi-
,procurement account. I would add that ment for reduction of $45 million in the tional carrier until this survey and spe-
this item has been fully supported by research and development program. cial consideration of the matter had been
Secretary Laird in communications to I see that the Senator from Louisiana had. -
both Committees, is present, and I shall be happy to yield I could not see any honorable way in
ARMY MISSILE PROCUREMENT to him, if he wishes, at this point. which we could consider yielding, al-
Mr. ELLENDER. Mr. President, did I though the House thought we were in
Tow: The tow missile was a matter understand the Senator to say that in error. In keeping with the promise we
of considerable interest, which was in the addition to the money provided by the had made here, we did not agree to the
Senate bill, but the House deleted in its Senate for shipbuiding, the conferees additional carrier. We never did agree to
entirety the $142 million authorized for added more than $4 million for ships? it. However, we wanted to have a survey
the procurement of the tow antitank Mr. STENNIS. The Senator is correct, made. And in the end the House con-
missile, which had been authorized by Mr. ELLENDER. Which ships are cov- ferees agreed to join us on the survey.
the Senate. The conferees agreed on $100 ered? There are no carriers? That amendment was agreed to.
million for this item. Mr. STENNIS. There are no carriers. I
i
ers
~~? ? ? ? carr
Sram: The conferees agreed to the ment on the carriers. The items involve the conversion of will be constructed, and the other will be
$20.4 million for the procurement of the three guided missile frigates, instead of postponed until the survey is made.
short range attack missile Sram which one, at an added cost of $41 million. Mr. STENNIS. The other one will have
was contained in the House version but There was one in the Senate bill and to be authorized. It is not in the bill.
deleted by the Senate, It appeared that one in the budget. However, the House Mr. ELLENDER. I thank the Senator.
the development problems have been Suf- bill had added two. We first agreed on a Mr. STENNIS. Mr. President, as I have
ficiently overcome to justify a line item
NAVY I point out to the Senator from Loui- will speak about the 11-percent cut in
SHIPBUILDING AND CONVERSION siana that a big factor in the agreement research and development. We had pub-
The House accepted the Senate ver- was that these ships are headed for ap- lie debate here on a few of these items
sion of the bill on Navy shipbuilding and proval in the 1971 budget. It is really that I will mention in passing. The
conversion, but with the addition of $415 next year's program. They are not mat- SAM-D missile item was compromised at
million in the authorization of ship con- ters that were just picked up here and $60 million. This is research and devel-
-struction and conversion.. The, items there that some individual wanted. opment.
added artYlB.esta}shed_ by the Navy Mr. ELLENDER. Why not wait until The AWACS, for which the Air Force
in terms of its priorities and also repre- next year to th a gero riation9
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$40 million, was finally agreed to in the
sum of $40 million.
On the Conus air defense intercepter,
for which the House authorized $18.5
million and the Senate $2.5 million, the
conferees agreed to the lower Senate fig-
ure.
There are other items that I will an-
swer questions about, if desired. How-
ever, I will not delineate them now.
On the general provisions, the con-
ferees agreed upon a modified version of
the amendment authorizing a GAO study
of defense profits. The modification
makes it clear that the information re-
quired from a contractor's records will
be that obtainable from the records he
keeps in the normal course of business.
It also takes away the subpena power
from the Comptroller General and con-
templates that the House and Senate
Committees on Armed Services would
issue subpenas in necessary cases when
requested.
That was a hotly contested item on the
floor. It concerned the granting of sub-
pena power and involved the changing
of the nature of the GAO.
We strenuously urged the adoption of
the Senate amendment because I thought
the restrictions on the subpena power
were adequate and had been properly
phrased and took care of it all right.
However, the House never did yield with
reference to the subpena power on either
one of these two items. And there was no
way to get them to yield. But they did
yield and agree to this modification that
I have discussed.
On the financial disclosure amend-
ment, the Rouse receded from its objec-
tion to section 403 of the Senate bill
with an amendment. This section con-
tains the financial disclosure provisions
for former military officers and civilians
involved in defense procurement matters.
The House added a provision for a
new Assistant Secretary-Assistant Sec-
retary of Defense Health Affairs. That is
a matter that they have added in several
bills in recent years. We finally agreed
to include that provision. I think that
there is rather strong argument in favor
of it and that the work can be central-
ized there.
At one time it was offered in such a
way as to crowd out the Assistant Sec-
retary on :Systems Analysis. We never
would agree to it in that form, because
any Secretary of Defense is entitled to
the very best personnel he can get. And
it helps to rave status in these matters of
procurement and systems analysis eval-
uation.
We had a very complicated amend-
ment considered on the Senate floor
regarding independent research. The
amendment was offered by the distin-
guished Senator from Wisconsin.
We finally agreed that the Senator
would introduce a bill on that subject.
The committee recommended a 20-per-
cent reduction in funds. That passed the
Senate in that form.
That amendment was very stoutly re-
sisted by the conferees on the part of the
House. Some rather complicated matters
came up concerning it. However, after a
os thorough conside>iatlon, we ageo
ment that would not disturb existing
contracts' and there would be an overall
reduction of 7 percent in new contracts
made for the rest of this year, the idea
being that that is a temporary settlement
of the matter and that we are getting
into the field more explicitly, we hope to
have better guidelines possibly by statute
in the next year.
Mr. PI#,OXMIRE. Mr. President, will
the Senator yield?
Mr. STENNIS. I am glad to yield to
the distinguished Senator from Wiscon-
sin. He is the author of the amendment
to which I have just referred, and he
did a great deal of fine work on it.
Mr. PROXMIRE. I want to say a num-
ber of things later, but first I want to say
that I am very grateful to the Senator
from Mississippi for the excellent job
he did with regard to the amendments I
introduced. I think he made a fine fight.
I know it was not easy. I should like to
ask' him about this amendment.
Does the Senator agree that the effect
of the amendment retained by the con-
ference placed this practice of independ-
ent research-what I have in mind are
loose rules and regulations-for the first
time under the scrutiny and examination
of both the Pentagon and. Congress?
Mr. STENNIS. Yes. That is a correct
statement. It will now have to be under
the strict surveillance of the Pentagon,
and this is a start whereby we can have
legislative surveillance.
Mr. PROXMIRE. Is the effect of the
amendment to limit the funds which the
Pentagon allows to be written off by
contractors for this purpose to 93 per-
cent of the contemplated level of allow-
ance for future contracts? In other
words, there Is at least a 7-percent cut
in the amount which would otherwise
be allowed in future contracts.
Mr. STENNIS. That is correct. The
language, appears a litttle odd, but that
is the way it had to be drawn.
Mr. PROXMIRE. Does the Senator
agree that this amount would be a cut of
at least $40 million to $50 million over
what it would otherwise have been and
that it might in fact be more?
Mr. STENNIS. Yes, I think that is ap-
proximately correct. We found that there
was no way to be accurate on that be-
cause of various conditions. I think I
said at one time that it would run from
$30 million to $40 million to $50 million,
but I think $40 million to $50 million is
more nearly accurate.
Mr. PROXMIRE. I understood the
Senator to say that this is a beginning.
As I understand it, the Senator intends
to hold hearings on this question and his
committee intends to go into it in con-
siderable detail.
Mr. STENNIS. That is exactly what
we propose to do. It must be evaluated;
it must be understood. I think it must
be regulated somewhat, although I am
impressed with the need for some opera-
tion in this field.
Mr. PROXMIRE. Would the Senator
not also agree that the effect of the
amendment is to give a clear notice to
the procurement officials in the Defense
Department ,that, some past practices ag-
ar to h of u , who have examined
e.lns~eti> and that
there needs to be a tightening of the reg-
ulations and controls under which this
procedure has been practiced?
For example, my office was- unable to
find out from the Department of Defense
or to find in the armed services procure-
ment regulations any clear definitions or
regulations which involved funds in ex-
cess of a half billion dollars a year.
Is this amendment not a clear notice
to the procurement officials and to the
Comptroller of the Pentagon that this
entire area must be re-examined, tight-
ened, and brought under control?
Mr. STENNIS. That is what we in-
tend to do. We are going to follow that
up by letter. No corruption or anything
like that was found there.
Mr. PROXMIRE. l agree.
Mr. STENNIS. It was the inadequacy
of the system and an application of that
system. It is just intolerable, as I see
it. It is an important field, however.
The committee will not bring in a rec-
ommendation again until we get a better
system and a better understanding. That
would be my position.
Mr. PROXMIRE. I should like to ask
the Senator another question about this
item and about the dollar amounts
involved.
In the original amendment, it was
considered that under the authorization
some $585 million originally would have
been available for the independent re-
search and development. We cut that by
20 percent, or one-fifth; and, as the
report points out, the language "was in-
tended to provide a reduction of approxi-
mately 20 percent in the funds which
would otherwise be expended for this
purpose during fiscal 1970."
The effect was to limit the total to $468
million, or 20 percent of $585 million.
The effect of the new amendment is to
make a 7-percent cut, rather than a 20-
percent cut.
By my calculations, this would be
$40.95 million, and would limit inde-
pendent research and development ex-
penditures to approximately $544 million
for next year. Is that not correct?
Mr. STENNIS. I think that is approxi-
mately correct. That is the best we could
get at this time, with the lack of a system,
and they do not know the extent of these
contracts as yet. We could not be exact.
The estimates on it went up. The gross
estimates on the amount that could be
involved went up.
Mr. PROXMIRE. I have some addi-
tional questions, but I will defer those,
if the Senator wishes, while other Sen-
ators who are members of the committee
speak. I will do whatever the Senator
desires. I want to accommodate him.
Mr. STENNIS. I thank the Senator.
The Senator from New Hampshire is
versed in this matter. as are others. This
matter was handled. however, as an
amendment on the floor of the Senate,
and I think we all are familiar with it.
Does the Senator have further ques-
tions on this matter?
Mr. PROXMIRE. Not on this matter.
I have questions on other matters.
Mr. STENNIS. I would rather finish
now. I thank the Senator.
Mr. President r Mr. SPONG in the
chair), certain settlements were made
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I think that was. the main point. The
main point on which the House objected
was the lack of hearings in such a far-
reaching policy question, without a de-
lineation of the various parts, and so
forth.
Mr. President, that was the overall
reason that the House did not accept
the amendment.
Mr. COOPER. I assumed that would be
the reason.
Mr. STENNIS. Yes.
Mr. COOPER. I would like to discuss
this matter for a few minutes.
Mr. STENNIS. Certainly. I yield to the
Senator from Kentucky.
Mr. COOPER. Mr. President, the Sen-
ator from Mississippi was kind enough
to call me several times after the con-
ference. I was not in Washington. I was
in Kentucky. He told me that he wanted
to discuss with me the action of the con-
ference on the amendment. I appreciate
his consideration very much.
Mr. STENNIS. The Senator is certainly
entitled to that consideration. I wanted
him to be informed,, and I wanted him to
be here when we took up the report, and
it was only after we knew he would be
here that we went ahead.
Mr. COOPER. The Senator is not only
courteous but also very fair. I appreciate
his consideration very much.
The information offered publicly to the
country since August 12, when I first of-
fered the amendment, gives more impor-
tance to the amendment. Before August
12, after I had studied the bill and had
noted that in title IV the language which
authorized funds for the use of U.S.
troops in assistance of local forces in Laos
and Thailand, two questions arose in my
mind because of the language. The first
-question was a constitutional question,
and that is always arguable, as to wheth-
er the President and I spoke of the Office,
has the right to use combat troops in an-
other country without the approval of
Congress. I had thought that was a per-
tinent question because the Senate re-
cently agreed to a national commitment
resolution, which was supported by all
Members except seven. I remember that
the Senator from Mississippi spoke in
support of the resolution.
The more substantive and immediate
question was whether the United States
would, by use of its combat forces, move
into a new war in Laos and Thailand.
At the time I did not have any absolute
information as to what the United States
was doing in Laos. There were rumors,
but I must say I had no firm informa-
tion. Since that time a series of articles
has been published in the New York
Times going into some detail about the
involvement of the United States in
Laos. In addition, the Senator from Mis-
souri (Mr. SYMINOTON) has been very
ably conducting a series of hearings on
our foreign commitments. I shall not
comment on what .has been happening
in that committee. Although I am a
member of the committee, the hearings
have been secret and I do not intend to
comment upon any information that has
been developed in the hearings. I shall
follow the chairman, Senator SYMINGTON.
I must say I rely chiefly on the articles
from the New York Times. Also `I rely
upon the statements which Secretary of
State Rogers has made to the press. If
he is correctly reported, he said he
thought Members of Congress or some
Members know about the U.S. involve-
ment.
I know that our activities in Laos are
related to our operations in the war in
Vietnam. For example, if we bomb the
Ho Chi Minh Trail from bases in Thai-
land that is an operation supporting our
forces in Vietnam. It is to deny the move-
ment of supplies and forces down the Ho
Chi Minh Trail.
In the debate on August 12 and on
September 17, I did not question the
right of the President, as Commander in
Chief, to conduct activities in Laos which
are directly related to the war in Viet-
nam; but I did question then and I ques-
tion today the authority of the Presi-
dent-and again, I am not directing my
remarks to President Nixon but to the
office of President-because if these
activities have been occurring, they have
been occurring under the Presidents and
they were initiated, according to the
newspapers during the administration of
President Kennedy. The activities in-
creased under the administration of
President Johnson.
If the newspapers are correct, the ac-
tivities have been carried on under the
administration of President Nixon.
The point I make is that no President
ever declared to the American people or
to Congress that the United States was
assisting in combat activities in support
of local forces in Laos. The forces of
Laos are engaged in a civil war in Laos.
The Pathet Lao are engaged and have
been engaged for years in an attempt to
strike down the established Government
of Laos. The Pathet Lao has been as-
sisted by the North Vietnamese forces,
and, I assume, by Chinese work bat-
talions.
The circumstances under which these
activities began as in Vietnam were in a
framework in which the United States
was concerned about the Communist
takeover of Southeast Asia. There was
great concern about this possibility
which many people do not remember
today.
But the point I made when I offered
the amendment, and the point I try to
make now is that no President as Com-
mander in Chief, has ever announced to
the American people that he is using
what he might consider to be his con-
stitutional powers and that we were in
combat activities in support of local
forces in Laos. Certainly, Congress has
never been informed or approved such
actions.
We can agree to resolutions until
doomsday and they will have their moral
effect upon the President or upon Con-
gress or upon the American people, but
all such methods other than the certain
constitutional method we might use-
and the Senator from Mississippi knows
this well because he is a great lawyer-
are doubtful.
There is only one method which is
certain and that is' the prohibition of
appropriations. That was the purpose of
my amendment: To deny appropriations
to carryon the use of American combat
troops to support local forces in Laos or
Thailand.
e was as to the meaning of
and that was in contest
of the Senate. I have not
discuss this matter with
Mr. COOPER. I do not intend to dis-
cuss the conference action on the
amendment at great length at this time,
but I should like to ask the Senator
some questions.
Mr. STENNIS. I yield to the Senator
for such questions as he may have.
Mr. COOPER. I understood the Sen-
ator to say that disagreement in the
conference arose over the meaning or
the intention of, the language. Would
the Senator speak in more detail of
disagreement.
Mr. STENNIS. As I recall, the ques-
tion. was whether it put a limitation on
all the funds of the Department of De-
fense, or whether it was just on this
$2.5 billion.
With great deference to the Senator,
I thought his language applied only to
the $2.5 billion, and the contention of
the Senator from Kentucky was that it
applied to all the funds appropriated for
the Department of Defense. It is a very
broad and a very far-reaching question,
and we just could not make any head-
way with the House on that question.
It pertains to war, some possible exten-
sion of the war.
Mr. COOPER. To try to secure as pre-
cise an answer as I can, I ask this ques-
tion: Was the discussion in the con-
ference, and particularly the objection
of the House conferees, directed to the
question, which we debated at great
length on the floor of the Senate, that
is-to whether the amendment I offered
applied only to the $2.5 billion which was
authorized in the bill? That is an argu-
able question, and we debated it at some
-length. But the more substantive ques-
tion, and the chief question, is this: Was
there argument in the conference-did
the question arise, as to whether funds
should be appropriated for combat use
of our troops in support of local force in a
war in Laos?
That is the chief and substantive,ques-
tion, and that was my point.
Mr. STENNIS. This matter came up
many - times during the conference. The
amendment had two phases: one was
the ceiling and the other was the Sen-
ator's limitation. I recall that it was dis-
cussed from virtually every angle.
I recall speaking with Representative
RiVExs about it in one. of our con-
ferences on ,tFhe items tllat were not
xgedoI afsp recall. the discussions
?QtIe;ex),,.abput settling this
'broad question through an amendment in
this way-that we had net had, hearings.
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I remember the Senator argued, and I House $40 million was finally agreed to
think it was arguable; from a technical in the sum of the House figure of $40
viewpoint, that my amendment did not million.
accomplish its purpose, that the Senator Third. On the CONUS Air Defense In-
considered it went only to the $2.5 bil- terceptor for which the Hous authorized
lion that was authorized. That might be $18.5 million and the Senate $2.5 million
true. I considered this possibility, but I the conferees agreed to the lower Senate
thought the meaning was perfectly clear figure.
to every one. Mr. President, in view of the fact that
It was my latent that the amendment a number of other adjustments are fully
should bar ume of any funds in any bill set forth in the conference report and
for the use of our combat troops in sup- statement of managers I shall not recite
port of local forces in Laos or Thailand. these in detail.
The bill passed 86 to 0. The Secretary GENERAL PROVISIONS
of Defense Laird sent a letter which Turning now to the general provisions,
was placed in the REcoan, saying my Mr. President, I would like to discuss
amendment would not accomplish my these items in their final form as they
purpose, but everyone knew what its emerged from the conference.
purpose was. Those who were there and PROFITABILITY STUDY
heard the debate knew its purpose was The conferees agreed upon a modified
to keep the United States out of another
war in Laos. The only certain constitu- version of the amendment authorizing
tional method to accomplish the purpose a GAO study of defense profits. The mod-
was and is the prohibition of funds. ification makes it clear that the informa-
I do not know how many other bills tion required from a contractor's records
will be coming up which will carry funds will be that obtainable from the records
Iwna #UL' O .._ v. 1 ` correct? subpena power from the Comptroller
stand there are two. Is that c
Mr. STENNIS. Yes. Two. General and contemplates that the House
Mr. COOPER. The military construc- and Senate Committees on Armed Serv-
tion and the appropriation bill, i will ices would issue subpenas in proper and
offer the amendment again to close the necessary cases when requested.
door in every way that I can. I want to FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE
notify the Senator. It will direct the Sen- The House receded from its objection
ate to the issue we must determine to section 403 of the Senate bill with an
whether we will, without the authority amendment. This section contains the
of Congress, become involved in other financial disclosure provision for former
wars. If it is important for the security military officers and civilians involved in
point of view, and Congress decides to defense procurement matters. The
give its authority, at least we will know amendment of the House would substi-
where we stand. I do not believe it is es- new language for section 403 of the
sential to U,S. security. I will oo ' e Senate bill as suggested by the Depart-
amendment again. f.- Inent of Defense in its reclama letter of
IIVIS' thank the Senator October $, 1969.
om Kentucky. I appreciate his remarks.
Mr. President, I have almost completed
my speech now. Remarks on the chemical
and biological warfare will be made by
the distinguished Senator from New
Hampshire (Mr. MCINTYRE).
RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT
An 11-percent cut: Mr, President, in
summary terms the bill provides for a re-
duction of 11 percent in research and de-
velopment funds in the budget request as
compared to an average of about 12 per-
cent in the Senate version and 10 percent
in the House version. In addition, Mr.
President, I wish to emphasize that the
military science budget activity was re-
duced in a manner which will give com-
plete effect to the total reduction of some
$45 million adopted on the Senate floor
relating to the Federal research centers,
behavioral sciences, and certain other
activities.
SPECIFIC RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT ITEMS
NEW ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR HEALTH AFFAIRS
The Senate agreed to a House pro-
vision providing for a new Assistant Sec-
retary of Defense for Health Affairs with
the added proviso that the number of
Assistant Secretaries would be increased
from seven to eight. This provision which
was also contained in last year's procure-
ment bill, but rejected by the Senate,
was strongly insisted upon by the House.
INDEPENDENT RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT
Mr. President, as the Senate may re-
call, the House version contained no
language in its bill on the business of
independent research and development.
The Senate version contained a section
limiting this activity to $468 million for
fiscal year 1970, representing a 20-per-
cent reduction in this program, A com-
promise was adopted by the conference
under which for new contracts incurred
after the effective date of this act the
Department of Defense is directed to
Mr. President, I shall not attempt to restrict the funds available for this ac-
enumerate all of the items which were tivity to 93 percent of what they would
adjusted in the research and development normally contemplate for this use. This
program other than to mention certain of restriction applies only to the funds au-
the principal ones. thorized in this legislation. Both coln-
First. The Sam-D missile for which mittees agreed that this matter will re-
the Senate bill authorized no funds and ceive thorough hearings next year.
the House $75 million was compromised Mr. President, I would like to observe
at 60 percent. that the activity of independent research
Bond The AWACS for which the and development needs much better
s>1J31AA,t and management on the part,
of the Department of Defense based on
the limited attention we were able to ex-
tend to it this session. At one point the
Senate Committee was advised that
about $580 million would be expended
out of the authorized funds for fiscal
year 1970. The House Committee some
weeks later was advised that about $702
million might be expended for this gen-
eral purpose. The simple truth is I do
not believe the Department knows how
much money will be spent in the general
area of independent research and devel-
opment, bid and proposal, and other
technical effort. While I am sure there
is much good work accomplished under
these programs, it is at the present time
beyond the decisionmaking process in
the Congress in terms of the budget.
The Congress therefore has no means of
evaluating or controlling these large
sums to any precise degree.
It would appear that the only means
of bringing this matter under any con-
trol would be to have it as a line item in
the budget in order that it can be pre-
sented and justified in the normal way. I
point this out in order for the Depart-
ment of Defense to be on notice with
respect to the intention of the committee
of having detailed hearings and bringing
about some change in the way this mat-
ter is presently being handled.
SUPPORT FOR SOUTH LAST ASIA FORCES
Mr. President, the limitation of $2.5
billion contained in the Senate version
of section 401 was retained by the con-
ferees. The added language regarding the
use of these funds for the support of local
forces in Laos and Thailand was rejected
by the House conferees because of its
ambiguity. As the Senate may recall, this
latter item was Senator COOPER's floor
amendment, which was adopted.
NUCLEAR CARRIER STUDY
The House version contained no pro-
vision similar to the Senate version re-
quiring a study for the CVAN-70 prior to
any authorization. As finally adopted
there will be a joint study by both the
committees prior to the authorization of
any additional carrier.
EXPANSION OF AUTHORIZATION AUTHORITY
The House version would have ex-
tended the requirement for authoriza-
tion legislation prior to appropriations to
",all other vehicles, weapons and ammu-
nition." This matter was compromised
by the adoption of language limiting this
expansion to other weapons with this
term being limited principally to artil-
lery, rifles, small weapons, and the like,
as defined specifically in the statement
of managers.
TROOP STRENGTH CEILING
The conferees adopted the House ver-
sion an the active duty ceiling which pro-
vides that after July 1, 1970, not more
than 3,285,000 personnel may be on ac-
tive duty in the Armed Forces unless a
Presidential exception is made.
CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WARFARE
Mr. President, the conferees agreed to
what might be considered a compromise
in both the House and Senate versions of
this matter. Senator MCINTYRE will ex-
plain this matter fully, but I would point
out that the new language requires the
following :
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First, that Congress bQ_kept informed
of, all expenditures relating, to, chemical
and biological warfare.
Second, that the program, including
testing and transportation, be conducted
in amallner gorisist nt with a due regard
for public health and safety.
Third, that. the program be conducted
in a mariner".which respects the sover-
eign independence of other nations and
U.S. ,obligations under internatioal law.
Ili addition, it prohibits procurement of
systems specifically -designed for dis-
seminating lethal chemical and biologi-
cal agents except with the approval of
the President. The bill underscores con-
gressional determination to keep this
program under firm control by directing
$10.5 million reduction in the program's
research and development funds.
GAO AUDIT AND REPORT LANGUAGE
Mr. President, I regret to say that the
House was adamant in its refusal to
adopt the Senate provision requiring
quarterly reports by the General Ac-
counting Office of major defense con-
tractors. This amendment, as we know,
was offered by Senator SCHWEIKER. The
-House felt, however, that except for the
subpena power, existing procedures al-
lowing this type of reporting was not
justified.
PROVISIONS IN THE HOUSE BILL NOT ADOPTED BY
CONFEREES
.Mr. President, in order that there may
be a record on the cooperation between
the two groups I would like to point out
the provisions contained in the House
version which were dropped altogether
by the conferees: Language requiring for
the mandatory procurement and storage
of supplies for Reserves; a Deputy As-
sistant Secretary of Defense for Dental
Affairs; lieutenant general rank for the
SUMMARY OF ENTIRE BILL PROCUREMENT
]In thousands of dollars]
Authorization requested
Conferees Authorized, Appropriated, fiscal year 1970
agree on fiscal year fiscal year -
1969 1968 Jan.14,1969 Apr. 15, 1969
As passed As reported
by the by House
Senate committee
Aircraft:
Army____________________________________________________________________ $570,400 1735,447 $735,247 $941,500 $941,500 $484,400 $570,400
Navy and Marine Corps____________________________________________________ 2,391,200 2,406988 2,311,284 2,568,900 12,409,200 2,287,200 2,391,200
AirFForce----------------------------------------------------------------- 3,965,700 5,212,000 4,460,000 4,406,000 4,100,200 3,965,700 4,002,200
Missiles:
Army____________________________________________________________________ 880,460 956,140 908,040 1,347,660 957,660 922,500
Navy_____________________________________________________________________ 851,300 848,122 673,016 865,100 851,300 851,300 780851,460
,300
Marine Corps_____________________________________________________________ 20'100 13,500 13,500 20,100 20'100 20,100 20 100
Air Force_________________________________________________________________ 1,486,400 1 768,000 1,720 200 1,794,000 1,486'400 1 466,000 1 406,400
Tracked Naval vessels: combat Navy____ vehicles: _______________________________________________________ 2,983,200 1,581,500 820,700 2,698,300 2,631,400 2,568,200 3,591,500
Army____________________________________________________________________ 228,000 299 426 286,626 298,300 305,800 276,900 195 200
Marine Corps __________---------------- -...................... -........... 37,700 10,800 10,800 37,700 37,700 37,700 37,700
Total procurement------------------------------------------------------- 13,414,460
RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT, TEST AND EVALUATION
Army--- ---------
Navy (including Marine Corps)_________________________________________________
Air orce---- -- --------- --------------------------------------------------
Defense agencies --------------------------------------------------------------
Emergency fund ------------------- ?-------------------------------------?--
Total, research and development_____________________________________
13,832,013 11,939,613 14,977,560 13,741,260 12,880,000 13,926,460
1, 646, 05i 1,611,900 1,522,665 1 822, 500 1,849,500 11,626,707 1 664,500
1,968.235 2,205,741 2141,339 2,207,100 2211,500 1,911343 1,990,500
3,156, 552 3, 438, 594 3,364,724 3,594,300 3, 561,200 3,041,211 3,241,200
450,200 487,522 472,600 500,200 500,200 454,625 450,200
75, 000 50, 000 50, 000 50, 000 100, 000 75, 000 75, 000
Grand total------------------------------------------------------------- 120,710,502
Approved by conference____ $13,414,460,000
Less than House bill- 512, 000, 000
Approved by conference-___ 13, 414,460 000
Approved by Senate -------- 12,880,000:000
7,551,328 8,174,100 8,222,400 8 7,108, 886. 7,421,400
21, 347, 860
1 Of the amount requested for authorization, $25,000,000 is to be derived by transfer from a In addition to these amounts this bill authorizes $12,700,000 for construction of facilities at
sto Off the amount requested for authorization, $325,000,000 is to be derived by transfer from Kwajalein,
stock funds.
FISCAL DATA
Requested by Secretary
Clifford ----------------- $23,151,660,000
Agreed to in conference____ 20, 710, 502, 000
Less than amount re-
quested by DOD,
Jan. 14, 1969______ 2, 441, 158, 000
Requested by Secretary
Laird, Apr. 15, 1969 ------ 21, 963, 660, 000
Agreed to in conference---- 20, 710,.502, 000
Less, than amount re-
quested by Secre-
tary Laird __-_____
Approved by House________ 21, 347, 860, 000
Agreed to in conference____ 20,710,502,000
Less than House bill- 637, 358, 000
Approved by conference---- 20, 710, 502, 000
Approved by Senate -------- 19,988,886,000
More than Senate bill
Chief of the National Guard Bureau and
Chiefs of the Army Reserve and Air Force
Reserve; language requiring a travel al-
lowance for overseas travel for military
dependents attending college; a special
provision regarding retired pay; special
language requiring destroyer construc-
tion in at least three shipyards, and lan-
guage which would have required report-
ing to the Senate and House and a 60-
day waiting period for all research and
development contracts with colleges and
universities.
I cite the foregoing, Mr. President, to
indicate the fact that although the Sen-
ate did not retain all of its provisions the
House likewise did not prevail in many
of the items adopted by that body.
There being no objection, the fiscal
data charts were ordered to be printed in
the RECORD, as follows:
Approved by conference---- $7,296,042,000
Approved by Senate________ 7, 108, 886, 000
More than Senate bill---- 187, 156, 000
Mr. STENNIS. Mr. President, at this
point I want especially to acknowledge
the diligence and the efforts put forth on
the part of the Senate conferees on this
complicated and far-reaching matter.
All of the Senate's representatives-
Requested by Secretary
Laird, Apr. 15, 1969______ 13, 741, 260, 000
Approved by conference---- 13,414,460,000
Less than requested
Senators RUSSELL, SYMINGTON, JACKSON,
by DOD-----------
326,800,000
RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT
Requested by Secretary
Laird, Apr. 15, 1969______ 8, 222, 400, 000
Approved by conference---- 7,296, 042,000
.Less than amount re-
quested by DOD ___
CANNON, MCINTYRE, Mrs. SMITH of Maine,
THURMOND, TOWER, and DOMINICK-rep-
resented the Senate in the highest mean-
ing of the word and in the best tradi-
tion of the Senate.
Especially, I thank the Senator from
Maine (Mrs. SMITH), the ranking Re-
publican member, for her hard work and
the special support she extended to me.
Mr. President, I do not want to hold
the floor indefinitely. I yield at this point
to the Senator from Maine (Mrs. SMITH)
More than Senate bill-__,. 721, 616, 000 Approved by House 7, 421, 400, 000
Approved by conference____ 7, 296, 042,00O
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