MEETING AT AFRDR, 27 SEPTEMBER 1966

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP68B00724R000200210017-9
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• Original Classification: S
• Document Page Count: 4
• Document Creation Date: December 16, 2016
• Document Release Date: August 13, 2004
• Sequence Number: 17
• Publication Date: September 28, 1966
• Content Type: MFR

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28 SEP 9b
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Meeting at AFRDR, 27 September 1966
1. A meeting was held at AFRDR on 27 September 1966.
OSA attendees were 25X1
can erees were
Col. C. Saunders, Col. R. G. Welch and Lt. Col. R. L.
Honeywell.
2. Colonel Saunders expressed c 25X1
It
was pointed out by that these were 25X1
simply exploratory and data-finding actions between
Project Contractors and are the type of engineering
information exchange that is performed as a matter of
routine. These messages certainly levied no commitment
.on anyone as concern future signs or installations of
equipment. presented a blackboard
discussion on the app ications of these gear boxes and
features available by changing the gear ratios.
3. next presented a briefing on
the topics iscussec last week with Mr. C. L. Johnson and
Associates on the U-2R program. At this point, Colonel
Saunders interposed a series of questions on what had
been done in OSA on this program. 25X1
showed him copies of OSA Directive stated a
Deputy for Research and Development, OSA, is the OSA
U-2R focal point. Also displayed were copies of organization
and procedures for the U-2R Requirements Review Panel and
its sub-groups.
USAF review(s) -R SUP I
completed. Excluded f.? 111 autdn.atic
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4. Colonel Saunders' initial reactions were that
AFRDR participation in the U-2R was being played down.
He referred frequently to a letter from Dr. Flax that
all U-2 aircraft should be of a common configuration and
readily exchangeable between SAC and CIA. Further, that
this philosophy extended to the existing U-2C fleet, as
well as the forthcoming U-2R's. It was carefully pointed
out to him that the above OSA papers on the U-2R were
internal Headquarters memoranda and not of intra-agency
policy application. It was further nfd that in all
instances, closest participation has been provided for
and is expected with AFRDR, the SPO and SAC representatives.
I istrongly recommended that Col. Saunders
arrange or-a discussion with Colonel Bacalis on inter-
agency interface requirements.
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5. The meeting next proceeded into a discussion
of the existing U-2 fleet and differences between the
SAC and CIA configuration and on-board systems. Colonel
Saunders was not convinced that U-2's could be transferred
between these commands without incurring considerable
factory rework actions and funds. An item by item
review was performed by on these 25X1
aircraft and Colonel Saunders was acquainted with
existing configuration control documents. Towards the
end of the discussion, it appeared that Colonel Saunders
was placated.
6. The subject of availability of a BLUE SPRINGS
drone for the special IDEALIST mission was brought up by
Colonel Saunders stated that arrange-
ments have been made for 25X1
Ito inspect a drone at Davis Monthan AFB,
next Monday to check adaptability, capability, time.required,
etc.
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7. Summary:
a. It was obvious that whether the subject was
engines, U-2C's or U-2R's, AFRDR is more concerned
that the operating commands (i.e., CIA and SAC/SPO)
not proceed on "unilateral" actions whereby the U-2
fleet will diverge from a basic common configuration.
The basis for this concern being the letter from
Dr. Flax.
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b. AFRDR is also prone to be alarmed anytime
they are left out of the "loop" on actions that they
feel fall within their scope of interest. (This
office is insuring they are included on distribution
for Lockheed Plans, Schedules and ECP's). However,
it has also been our experience that AFRDR does.not
wish to get involved with "reams of paperwork".
c. OSA has a good working relationship with SAC
and the SPO. Differences in systems or configurations
are invariably worked out to the mutual satisfaction
of the operating commands and fitted to their individual
mission requirements.
Chief, maintenance Division,
Deputy for Materiel, OSA
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C/MD/M/OSA (28 Sept 66)
Distribution:
#1 - D/M/OSA
#2 - D/O/OSA
#3 - D/R&D/OSA
#4 - SAS/O/OSA
#5 - D/M/OSA (Chrono)
#6 - RB/OSA
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