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March 16, f CO OYESSIO AL RECORD -HOUSE.. 4935
series of hearings was held from. May 5 ' Members may -wish also to refer to a the House the results of two most im-
n
to Ju
e 4, 1964. Testimony was heard detailed statistical compilation from the portant studies mentioned earlier. One
from representatives of all the Govern- National Science Foundation which was of these deals with science education at
ment agencies , significantly, involved prepared at our request and which the precollege level and has been done
ing the General Accounting Office, and
the Bureau of the Budget, and from
representatives of industry, universities,
and other nonprofit organizations. The
compilation of opinion and data con-
tained in the hearings has been useful to
those concerned with one or both of these
perplexing problems.
In August 1964 another in our series
of reports-"Government and Science
No. 3--Scientific-Technical Advice for
Congress; Needs and Sources" was is-
sued. This report, a staff study, brought
together views, comments, and opinions
on this matter as obtained from testi-
mony during the hearings, from a poll of
the members of the committee's Panel on
,Science arid Technology, and through the
following methods: First, advice from
outside expert sources on the kind of
scientific and technical information
likely to be most useful to the C.pngress,
and ways and means of securing it;
second, surveys of those sources-com-
mittee staffs, key personnel in the Li-
brary of Congress, and executive branch
officials-who.most often are called upon
to provide technical information to Con-
gress; and third, inquiries into sources
which. had the potential of becoming
useful in supplying scientific information
and advice to the Congress, such as pro-
fessional scientific groups, industrial
organizations, and the National Academy
of Sciences.
Among other specific recommenda-
tions were increased use of ad hoc con-
sultant groups; improved liaison with
the President's Office of Science and
Technology, the National Academy of
Sciences,, and the proposed National
Academy of Engineering; the strength-
ening of committee staffs; and the
strengthening of the scientific and en-
gineering consulting and staff resources
of the Legislative Reference Service.
One of our most important aspirations
is closer cooperation among the differ-
ent congressional committees which deal
with varying facets of the same scientific
or technological problems.
Two reports of our subcommittee were
completed after the adjournment of the
88th Congress. I believe all Mem-
bers of Congress will find the observa-
tions, conclusions, data and recommen-
dations in our report entitled "Govern-
ment and Science No. 4: Geographical
Distribution of Federal Research and
Development Funds" to be of special
interest. This is now House Report No.
106 of the current Congress.
As I stated in my letter of transmittal
of the report to the committee:
I would like to suggest that the major
aim of this report is to help point the way
toward the development of useful Federal
policies in the support of research and de-
velopment in the years ahead. We are here
studying the past and present in order to
help determine what our course should be,
not just next year or the year after, but for
the decades stretching beyond that. The
conclusions contained herein should thus be
considered in the light of American society
as it will exist in 1970 and beyond.
served as backup data for our study. at our request by the National Science
In view of the recommendations re- Foundation. The other deals with levels
cently made by President Johnson for and criteria for Federal support of basic
elimination of reimbursement limits, on research and has been done under con-
scieice grants, our most recent report tract by the National Academy of
entitled "Government and Science No. Sciences. These studies are in the final
5-Indirect Costs Under Federal Re- stages of processing.
search Grants" takes on special mean- In addition the subcommittee is pre-
ing. In fact the President's request fol- paring its course for the current Con-
lows the basic recommendations of our gress. We have not yet completed our
subcommittee in this report-now House
Report No. 144 of the current Congress.
When the amount of Federal funds
for support of individual research proj-
ects was small, institutions could absorb
the incidental expenses which were in-
curred. This is no longer the case. It
has been estimated that the percentage
of Federal research and development
funds spent for research grants is prob-
ably between 5 and 8 percent of the to-
tal, or. between $750 million and $1.2
billion. When overhead costs on sums
of this magnitude are not recoverable,
there are profund and vital effects on
the economic stability of the institutions
involved and on the administration of
many if not most of the Nation's educa-
tional instittuions..
A serious problem is therefore created
by the statutory limitations on reim-
bursement imposed on certain agencies.
It is magnified because others are not
so restricted, thereby frustrating efforts
by the Bureau of the Budget to develop
uniform means of reimbursement.
Our report summarizes the views of
the principal interested Government
agencies, of witnesses from universities,
and of private foundations. It also con-
tains an analysis of single-manager con-
cepts, and a discussion of the idea of
cost sharing.
We believe that our hearings and re-
ports will be of continuing benefit to
Members of Congress, to executive
branch officials, to concerned individ-
uals in industry, and the educational in-
stitutions. The process of examination
per se may have had beneficial effects
upon the Federal agencies who are en-
gaged in research and development ac-
tivities by forcing them to take a closer
look at what their missions and respon-
sibilities are. Our examination of vari-
ous aspects of the total research and de-
velopment picture may have enabled
Members of Congress who are on com-
mittees with responsibility for individ-
ual agency oversight to obtain a better
appreciation of the overall problem.
I wish to stress one point which has
been stated persistently in the intro-
ductory remarks for each of our reports;
that is, the interim, tentative nature of
our conclusions and recommendations.
We have been concerned with problems
of such complexity and magnitude that
we danriot hope to deal conclusively with
them in the short space of 18 months.
In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, it is ob-
vious that much remains to be done.
The job is a continuing one. It will never
be finished.
At the present time we are about ready
to present to the full committee and to
planning. But almost certainly our ac-
tivities will include further oversight
of National Science Foundation opera-
tions, an inquiry into the application of
research and development techniques as
a means of stimulating the national
economy, and a beginning look at the
potential role of science and technology
in combating the problems of population
growth.
ESTABLISHMENT OF? THE ELLIS IS-
LAND NATIONAL HISTORIC SITE
The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. DuN-
cAN of Oregon). Under previous order
of the House the Chair recognizes the
gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr.
COME l for 15 minutes.
Mr. CONTE. Mr. Speaker, America is
truly a nation of immigrants. Her herit-
age is unique, for in a sense, she is a part
of all the nations of the world. To her
shores have come literally millions of
Europeans, Asians, Africans, and Latins.
All came to be Americans and to each
America owes some part of her existence
as a nation.
In seeking a better life, America's im-
migrants made immeasurable contribu-
tions to a better life in their new country.
In all fields of endeavor these new citi-
zens applied their physical and mental
energy to help forge the strongest and
wealthiest Nation man has ever known.
At the same time they lent the flavor of
their diverse cultures to help create the
great melting pot that is this Nation.
They gave us scientists, artists, writers,
actors, philosophers, teachers and great,
men of affairs. Many of their descend-
ants sit in this Congress. I am but one.
While the contribution of immigrants
to the strength and nobility of this Na-
tion is unquestioned, we may well ask
whether that contribution is sufficiently
recognized. The very blood of this Na-
tion is the blood of immigrants, and
though we ever benefit from our immi-
grant forebears, we have never, as a
nation, expressed in any lasting sense a
tribute to them. I feel most strongly
that nothing could be more appropriate
than to do so now.
To this end, Mr. Speaker, I have today
introduced a bill which provides for the
establishment of the Ellis Island Na-
tional Historic Site.
Among the many symbols of our immi-
grant heritage, one stands out in promi-
nence. Ellis Island was for 62 years the
gateway to America. Between 1892,
when it was first opened to receive them,
and 1954, when its closing marked the
end of an era, Ellis Island was the
threshold of a new life for more than
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20 million people. Originally a picnic WTATEMENT OF POSITION ON might soon throw in the sponge and make
spot for Dutch colonists, it was pressed A VIETNAM whatever accommodation they could with an
into service as a processing station for enemy that would then seem assured of
immigrants when existing facilities The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under victory.
proved too small. Yet frequently the previous order of the House the gentle- To what point would we thenretreat to
island, only 271/2 acres in size, was itself man from Idaho [Mr. HANSENI is recog- anchor our perimeter of Pacific de-
not large enough to comfortably accom- nized for 30 minutes. Tense-Pearl Harbor?
modate the multitude who passed Mr. HANSEN of Idaho. Mr. Speaker, Thailand's Foreign Minister, Thanat
through it. Conditions were not always many are asking the question, "Why are Khoman, declared in a recent interview:
pleasant in that unfamiliar place whose we in Vietnam?" or "What is our policy Neutrality is no longer a refuge. We have
people then faced an uncertain future. in Vietnam?" To me, the reasons for in this country are so tit's- seen in Laos and India and elsewhere that
But in spite of these hardships, Ellis our presence neutrality does not prevent anyone from
Island was, and is, a warm place. It tal clear that I find it difficult to compre- being attacked, from being subverted, from
represented a reality which before had hend the confusion which now appears becoming a victim of aggression.
onto as dream. Those who to We exist on were this subjinvitedect.
into South Vietnam Our experience with communism has
only existed
stepped onto Ellis Island would long by the Government of that country and shown that the neutralization of a na-
remember the first hard feel of America have never been asked to leave. We are tion generally amounts to surrender on
under their feet. For many, their first the installment plan.
in Vietnam because our own security and
day e t Ellis of Island was the tangible ful- Thant made it plain that the thing
the security of the entire free world de-
filimn a life's ambition. For 20 mands that a firm line be drawn against which alarms him now is any U.S. talk,
million people, that small island in New im- in Congress and the press, of calling it
York Harbor was America and home. the forward advance of Communist tin quits. He said:
The closing of Ellis Island in 1954 America, Asia, in Africa, in Latin Some people are saying, ""Let's go back to
America, and in Europe. We are in Viet-
symbolized the recession of the great im- Geneva. Let's try again." Twice in one life-
migration to our shores. Those who nom not merely help the 14 million time is enough. Every time you go to Geneva
South Vietnamese e defend themselves you surrender to the Communists. North
passed through her gy went forth against communism, but because what is Vietnam and Communist China have made it
become part of the very f1 fiber of this s land. . at stake is the independence and free-
In tribute to them and to their inestima- plain that what they want i a complete U.
ble contribution, it is only fitting that don of 240 million people in southeast withdrawal. They are not interested in ne-
Asia and the future of freedom through- gotiations.
Ellis Island be preserved as a monument out the Western Pacific. South Vietnam has not asked anybody to
to its own past and to the future which The senior Senator from Idaho and negotiate its surrender to the Communists.
its people, and all America's immigrants, I don't think we have the right to treat the
built. others have repeated the proposal that South Vietnamese or the Laotians as chat-
Many have said that they would act, we should seek negotiations for the pur- tels. We cannot dispose of them by interna-
but have delayed. I urge that we delay pose of terminating the bloodshed in tional agreement.
Vietnam and avoiding the enlargement
no lIslan and tenshrine as a tation - Does anyone remember Munich, where
goal, Island be enshrined national of the war. While a most worthwhile Hitler's appetite was insatiably whetted
historic site, dedicated to the he immigrants , this proposal overlooks the fact by British concession and World War II
of America. This island would serve as a that there already does exist a negotiated memorial to an important and meaning- agreement on Vietnam, and its final was born?
Pote Sarasin, the longtime SEATO sec-
ful part of our country's history. It Each declaration reads: member ? * ? undertakes to respect retary general who is now Thailand's
would symbolize, too, like its close neigh- the sovereignty, the independence, the unity, Minister for National Development, has
bor, the Statue of Liberty, the freedom and the territorial integrity of the above- stated:
and opportunity which millions around mentioned states and to refrain from any I don't think the American people should
the world sought and found in America. interference in their internal affairs. limit their vision to the saving of Vietnam.
I believe very strongly that the mem- I think this is a problem of saving the exist-
ory of the history of Ellis Island-and all At a recent press conference, Presi ing free countries of Asia. The Communists
that it symbolizes--should never be al- dent Johnson stated: want nothing more than the complete with-
lowed to fade. For perhaps more than We have had direct discussions with al- drawal of American forces and bases from
any other monument we have, it would most every signatory of the 1954 and 1962 Asia. Yet we rely entirely on U.S. Forces and, Malaysia well remind us that the nobility to which Pacts. We have not had any indication line u leis itheBrit in, a cannot ofstand
the
we have risen was born of humble origins. from anyone that Hanoi is prepared to
stop doing what it is doing against its neigh- United States.
But the island should not only be a bors. After considerable study of the issues
memorial to the many who came to this It would seem to me the only peace the and after listening to the President, his
country be an seeking a better life, it should Communists in this part of Asia are in- advisers, and other informed persons, I
also
opportunity better t t those who terested In at this point is a piece of find myself wholeheartedly in support of
are now seeking a beette. I would South Vietnam. the current position taken by the admin-
also suggest bill presents e- Istration. We all hope for an early end
tary Udall a and
that OE O Director rectar Shriver President Johnson further illustrated to this frustrating struggle, but the owith an excellent opportunity for com- the problem by quoting a friend who real solution is frustrating struggle, the C the only
l
already
bining two programs. The work that said: to agreements convince must be done on the site should be done When I see the suggestions about negotiat- nests made, to
not live e ucpps to further agreements
by the Job Corps of the Office of Eeo-? ing, I wonder if folks don't recognize that
nomic Opportunity. This would provide there must be someone to negotiate with, to be broken..
many youths in the New York-New Jer- and there must be someone willing to Senate Republican leader EvERErT M.
sey area with the opportunity of engag- negotiate. DIRKSEN has asserted tha the United
ing in work which would be meaningful Senator THOMAS J. Donn in a speech on States has "blown the trumpets of re-
to them not only in its actual accom- the floor of the U.S. Senate on February treat too long" and that it is time to take
plishment, but also from a historical 23, 1965, stated: a firm stand against the Communists.
viewpoint. I seriously recommend to The defense of the free world rests on a I conclude with a statement made by
Secretary Udall that a program such as very delicate balance. The key elements in Senator Donn 4 years ago on the floor of
I have suggested above, should be devised that balance are American power and Ameri- the Senate following a trip to southeast
in cooperation with the Job Corps. can determination. If we lack the power to Asia:
I ask, therefore, in all sincerity, Mr. maintain that balance then certainly all is If the United States, with its unrivaled
lost. If we reveal that we lack the deter- might, with its unparalleled wealth, with
Speaker, that each Member of this House, mination, if we, for instance, allow ourselves its dominion over sea and air, with its heri-
Republican and Democrat, join with me to be pushed out of Vietnam, such a humilia- tage as the champion of freedom-if this
in support of this bill, to make Ellis tion may indeed be the second shot heard United States and its free world allies have
Island a national historic site. around the world; and a dozen nations so diminished in spirit that they can be
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laid in the dust by a few thousand primitive Federal Bureau of Investigation, Department
guerrillas, then we are far down the road of Justice, an office whose function shall be
from which there is no return, to obtain information relating to the loca-
In right and in might, we are able to work tion of certain individuals that may be in
our will,on this. question. Southeast Asia the possession of an executive department,
cannot be lost unless we will it to be lost; agency, or other instrumentality of the
it cannot be saved unless we will it to be United States.
saved. SEc. 2. Where a warrant has been issued
This problem, seemingly so remote and dis- for the arrest of any individual under the
tant, will in fact be resolved here in the criminal laws of the District of Columbia
United States, in the Congress, in the ad- or any State based upon the offense of
ministration, and in the minds and hearts abandonment, desertion, or nonsupport of
of the American people. children, the, prosecuting attorney of the
AGENCY PROPOSED. TO ASSIST
LOCAL COURTS, WIVES, AND
PROSECUTORS
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under
previous order. of the House the Chair
recognizes the gentleman from Ohio
[Mr. ASHBROOKI for 10 minutes.
Mr. ASHBROOK. Mr. Speaker, I
have introduced legislation calling for a
new office within the Federal Bureau of
Investigation. I have introduced H.R.
5358 after conferring with and receiving
the advice of judges, prosecuting attor-
neys, and welfare officials in the 17th
Ohio District. It would facilitate Fed-
eral cooperation with State and local
agencies and law enforcement officials to
locate individuals for whom a warrant of
arrest has been Issued for abandonment,
desertion, or nonsupport of children.
Prosecuting attorneys and welfare
agencies are, hampered in their efforts to
locate husbands who abandon their
families because of Federal policies
against divulging information as to wel-
fare recipients, income tax, social secu-
rity, and other programs. The enact-
ment of the bill which would make the
FBI a clearinghouse for information re-
garding runaway fathers which would
help local law enforcement and welfare
agencies locate these men for proper
legal action.
The Federal Government should give
Its cooperation to these local prosecuting
attorneys, courts, and especially the
wives and mothers who become welfare
cases-because of nonsupport. Setting up
this new office in the FBI would allow
them to handle these requests in a man-
ner which would otherwise protect the
confidential nature of welfare rolls, in-
come tax returns, and social security con-
tributions.
Here is an area, Mr. Speaker, where the
Federal Government can give informa-
tion to local courts and prosecutors to
help in law enforcement, I am not
advocating the FBI become a tracer of
lost persons-but it does make sense to
have them assist by giving information
which is ? peculiarly Federal in nature
where this information will help locate
runaway fathers and husbands, H.R.
5358 is included herewith:
$.R, 5358
To establish an office within the Federal
Bureau of Investigation to assist the States
in locating individuals for whom a warrant
of arrest has been, issued for abandonment,
fesertion, or nonsupport of children
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of
Representatives of the United States of
America in Congress assembled, That the
Attorney General shall establish within the
No. 48---9
District of Columbia or the political sub-
division of such State having jurisdiction
over. such offense may request (in such
manner, and setting forth such information,
as the Attorney General may by regulation
prescribe) the head of the office established
under the first section to obtain any in-
formation relating to the location of such
individual that may be in the possession of
an executive department, agency, or other
instrumentality of the United States.
SEc. 3. The head of the office established
under the first section is authorized to obtain
from any executive department, agency, or
other instrumentality of the United States
any information in the possession of such
department, agency, or instrumentality re-
lating to the location of an individual with
respect to whom a request for information
has been made under section 2. Each ex-
ecutive department, agency, or instrumen-
tality relating to the location of an individual
with respect to whom a request for informa-
tion has been under section 2. Each ex-
ecutive department, agency, or instrumen-
tality of the United States is authorized and
directed to furnish such information to the
head of such office for the use of the person
making the request, notwithstanding any
provision of law limiting the disclosure of
information by such department, agency, or
instrumentality unless the head of such de-
partment, agency, or instrumentality deter-
mines that such information should not be
disclosed in the interests of the national
security of the United States.
AMERICANS SHOULD BE GIVEN
EVERY GUARANTEE THAT THEIR
VOTES WILL BE COUNTED AND
ACCURATELY TABULATED
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under
previous order of the House the gentle-
man from Utah [Mr. BURTON] is recog-
nized for 10 minutes.
Mr. BURTON of Utah. Mr. Speaker,
American citizens should not only be pro-
tected in their right to vote In public
elections, but they should also be given
every guarantee that their votes will .be
counted and accurately tabulated.
I fully endorse the President's pro-
posal that Congress enact laws that will
protect the right of every qualified Amer-
ican citizen to vote in all National, State,
and local elections. This is a right of
citizenship, and no election official in any
State must be allowed to obstruct Amer-
icans in the free exercise of it.
However, not only have there been In-
stances In the past where citizens have
the vote accurately counted,
any possibility of fraud.
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There is considerable evidence that
there was a failure to count votes, that
vote tabulations were rigged and manip-
ulated, and that both nonexistent and
deceased persons somehow "voted" in the
1960 elections in Cook County, Ill., and
in other urban areas of the country.
There should be protection against this
type of outrageous activity, as well as
against the denial of the right to vote;
and I heartily recommend this to the
President for his consideration.
The right to vote is a sacred American
responsibility, and I fail to see the
difference between not allowing an
American in Selma, Ala., to vote, and al-
lowing a citizen in Chicago, Ill., to vote
and then not counting his ballot.
Every American-in Alabama, Illinois,
Utah, or wherever-has a right to vote
and an equally sacred right to have his
vote counted fairly.
The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under
previous order of the House the gentle-
man from New York [Mr. HALPERN] is
recognized for 10 minutes.
Mr. HALPERN. Mr. Speaker, I have
again in this Congress introduced legisla-
tion to create a great white fleet designed
to render emergency assistance and aid
on a continuing basis to coastal inhabit-
ants of the underdeveloped world.
H.R. 2428 would amend the Foreign
Assistance Act of 1961 to establish a fleet
of presently mothballed vessels. The
ships would be staffed by experts In the
fields of health and agriculture who
would visit coastal territories, in case of
emergencies or otherwise, to bring needed
relief.
Although the project would come under
the overall directional authority of the
Agency for International Development,
the bill authorizes the cooperation and
participation of knowledgeable private
groups. The ships are available. And I
have expert advice that a great number
of these are readily suitable for recondi-
tioning without prohibitive cost.
The fleet would be divided into task
forces, each including a hospital ship;
other vessels could be used for transport
of clothing, medical supplies, and also
food commodities from our surplus stock.
In order to minimize the cost of the
operation, H.R. 2428 provides for maxi-
mum use of counterpart funds, presently
languishing in vaults overseas.
Last July 29 I addressed the House at
length on this subject. It is an idea
which has long activated by interest. I
earnestly hope that during this Congress,
the House will give it serious considera-
tion.
As indicated b
+he
y
occurrences of vote fraud where votes fective instrument y in Wmeetingl hunger
have not been counted, ballot boxes have and deprivation abroad. It Is realistic
been stuffed, and tabulations of votes 'in that we will work as much as possible
have been purposefully altered. It with the tools already available, such as
seems to me that accompanying the food surplus, unused ships, and local cur-
right to vote is a coequal right to have rencies accumulating overseas.
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With this legislation we can effectively
muster the knowledge and skill of our
advanced society and apply it now where
it is most needed throughout the world.
There will be no political strings; this
proposal is humanitarian in concept and
application; there is no special message
to the peoples of the world, except the
willingness to transmit the fruits of mod-
ern medicine, technical know-how, and
agricultural revolution to those most in
need.
America has a moral obligation to con-
fer upon the disadvantaged its super-
abundance in learning and food produc-
tion; we cannot waste it, either on our
own pockets of deprivation or the urgent
want that is unmet abroad.
printed text of the Bureau of the Budget
Circular A-21 as revised and promul-
gated after lengthy study and work. The
circular contains the administration's
formulas and policy for the uniform
handling of overhead costs on all re-
search grants.
SPECIAL ORDERS GRANTED
By unanimous consent, permission to
address the House, following the legis-
lative program and any special orders
heretofore entered, was granted to:
Mr. CONTE, for 15 minutes, today, and
to revise and extend his remarks and to
include extraneous matter.
Mr. GEORGE W. ANDREWS (at the re-
quest of Mr. SMITH of Virginia), for 60
HOUSE REPORT NO. 144 BY COMMIT-
TEE ON SCIENCE AND ASTRO-
NAUTICS
(Mr. DADDARIO asked and was given
permission to extend his remarks at this
point in the RECORD and to include ex-
traneous matter.)
Mr. DADDARIO. M:r. Speaker, I
should like to draw the attention of
Members to House Report No. 144, re-
cently issued by the Committee on Sci-
ence and Astronautics.
This report was originally brought out,
last December, as a report of the Sub-
committee on Science, Research, and De-
velopment-which it is my privilege to
chair. In my judgment, it deals with a
most important matter-?the limitations
which some of 'our appropriations acts
place on reimbursing universities and
other nonprofit institutions for overhead
costs incurred in the course of work con-
ducted through Federal research grants.
We recommend strongly that such
limitations be removed in future acts
for three main reasons.
First. A fixed amount of reimbursable
costs results in loss of the administrative
flexibility so necessary to productive
working arrangements.
Second. The bookkeeping processes of
minutes, on March 17; and to revise and
extend his remarks and to include ex-
traneous matter.
Mr. YATES (at the request of Mr. SMITH
of Virginia), for 60 minutes, on March 17;
and to revise and extend his remarks
and to include extraneous matter.
Mr. WAGGONNER (at the request of Mr.
COLMER), for 30 minutes, on March 17;
and to revise and extend his remarks.
Mr. YATES, for 60 minutes, on Thurs-
day, vacating his special order for today.
Mr. HALPERN (at the request of Mr.
MORTON), for 10 minutes, today, and to
revise and extend his remarks and to
include extraneous matter.
Mr. HANSEN of Idaho (at the request
of Mr. MORTON), for 3() minutes, today,
and to revise and extend his remarks and
to include extraneous matter.
Mr. AsHBROOK (at the request of Mr.
MORTON), for 10 minutes, today, and to
revise and extend his remarks and to in-
clude extraneous matter.
Mr. BURTON of Utah (at the request of
Mr. MORTON), for 10 minutes, today, and
to revise and extend his remarks and to
include extraneous matter.
Mr. BOB WILSON.
Mr. MACGREGOR.
Mr. McDADE.
Mr. CONTE.
(The following Members (at the re-
quest of Mr. GIBBONS) and to include
extraneous matter: )
Mr. SICKLES.
Mr. CALLAN in two instances.
Mr. DINGELL.
Mr. CORMAN.
Mrs. KELLY in three instances.
Mr. MULTER in three instances.
Mr. FOGARTY.
Mr. POLANCO-ABREU.
Mr. YATES in two instances.
Mr. FUQUA.
Mr. HELSTOSKI.
Mr. KING of California.
Mr. BINGHAM.
Mr. IRW IN.
Mr. GIBBONS.
Mr. ROSTENKOWSKI.
Mr. RYAN.
Mr. BANDSTRA in two instances.
Mr. WELTNER.
SENATE BILLS AND JOINT RESOLU-
TION REFERRED
Bills and a joint resolution of the Sen-
ate of the following titles were taken
from the Speaker's table and, under the
rule, referred as follows:
S. 149. An act for the relief of Benjamin
A. Ramelb; to the Committee on the Ju-
diciary.
S.190. An act for the relief of Carnetta
Germaine Thomas Hunte; to the Committee
on the Judiciary.
S.195. An act for the relief of Sunnyside
Seed Farms; to the Committee on the Ju.-
diciary.
5.440. An act for the relief of Jose I,.
Rodriguez; to the Committee on the Judi-
ciary.
S.574. An act for the relief of Lester W.
Hein and Sadie Hein; to the Committee on
the Judiciary.
S. 618. An act for the relief of Nora Isa-
bella Samuelli; to the Committee on the
Judiciary.
5.619. An act for the relief of Nora Isa-
bella Samuelli; to the Committee on the Ju-
diciary.
S. 642. An act for the relief of Chung K.
won; to the Committee on the Judiciary.
S. 829. An act for the relief of Enrico Agos-
tini and Celestino Agostini; to the Commit-
tee on the Judiciary.
S.J. Res. 47. Joint resolution to authorize
the Preisdent to designate the week of May
2 through May 8, 1965, as "Professional
Photography Week"; to the Committee on
the Judiciary.
EXTENSION OF REMARKS
By unanimous consent, permission to
extend remarks in the Appendix of the
RECORD, or to revise and extend remarks
was granted to:
Mrs. KELLY in three instances and to
include extraneous matter, notwith-
standing the fact that in one instance
the extraneous matter will exceed two
pages of the RECORD and is estimated by
the Public Printer to cost $263.50.
Mr. ULLMAN in three instances and to
include extraneous matter.
Mr. DADDARIO to follow the remarks
of Mr. MILLER on his special order of
today.
Mr. YATES and to include an address.
(The following Members (at the re-
quest of Mr. MORTON) and to include
extraneous matter:)
Mr_ QuIE in five instances.
Mr. ANDERSON of Illinois.
Mr. MORSE in four instances.
Mr. CEDERBERG in two instances.
Mr. SHRIVER.
Mr. MATHIAS in five instances.
Mr. RUMSFELD.
Mr. DERWINSKI in two instances.
Mr. PIRNIE in two instances.
Mr. RHODES of Arizona in five in-
stances.
the various grantee institutions are so
different that the flat percentage-of-
direct-costs formula imposed by statute
often results in serious inequities and
hardship.
Third. The statutory limitation pre-
vents the uniformity or treatment which
good administration requires and which
,the Bureau of the Budget is trying to
bring about.
Mr. Speaker, I noted with pleasure
that the President, in his budget message
to the Congress this year also recom-
mended the removal of these restric-
tions. His request, I think, lends ur-
gency to the problem. Hence may I com-
mend to all Members of the House this
report of our subcommittee--"Govern-
ment and Science No. 5-Indirect Costs
Under Federal Research Grants"-or
House Report No. 144, 89th Congress,
which is identical. This report, together
with the extensive hearings on the sub-
ject which we held last May and June,
will provide Members with much useful
information in their consideration of the
issues involved.
Finally, I want to emphasize that
House Report No. 144 carries the first
ADJOURNMENT
Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I move
that the House do now adjourn.
The motion was agreed to; accordinr;-
ly (at 5 o'clock and 50 minutes p.m.)
the House adjourned until tomorrow,
Wednesday, March 17, 1965, at 12 o'clock
noon.
EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS,
ETC.
Under clause 2 of rule XXIV, executive
communications were taken from the
Speaker's table and referred as' follows:
750. A communication from the President
of the United States, transmitting proposed
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