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of cooperation which will bring more prog-
ress and prosperity to the members of both
our organizations, and continued good service
to the public we are dedicated to serve.
Henry S. Owens & Co., certified public ac-
countants, have audited the books of the
trustees for the year 1963 and a copy of this
audit has been furnished to all members of
the board.
Your trustees wish to extend sincere
thanks to the members of the national
board, to the officers and members of the
National Electrical Contractors Association,
and the International Brotherhood of Elec-
trical Workers, and especially to Mr. Wilfred
D. Howell, executive secretary of the pension
benefit trust fund for all the aid and cooper-
ation extended to us throughout the past
year. We also extend a special note of thanks
to our public member, Senator WAYNE MORSE
for his sincere interest in our fund and our
work of labor-management cooperation, and
for his fruitful efforts to publicize our en-
deavors and promote them.
Respectfully submitted.
JOSEPH D. KEENAN,
Trustee.
PAUL M. GEARY,
Trustee.
WAR IN VIETNAM
Mr. MORSE. Mr. President, I ask
unanimous consent that there be printed
at this point in the RECORD an article
entitled "Combat Units Dropped Into
North Vietnam," published in today's
issue of the Washington Post, and a
similar story entitled "Sabotage Raids
on North Confirmed by Saigon Aide,"
published in today's issue of the New
York Times.
There being no objection, the articles
were ordered to be printed in the REC-
ORD, as follows:
[From the Washington (t).C.) Post.
July 23, 1964]
COMBAT UNITS DROPPED INTO NORTH VIETNAM
(By John Maffre)
SAIGON, July 22.-The commanding gen-
eral of the Vietnamese Air Force said today
that his pilots have been dropping combat
teams into North Vietnam and that training
is being stepped up to increase this capa-
bility.
In addition to officially confirming reports
of such infiltration attempts, Brig. Gen.
Nguyen Cao Ky claimed that his country is
unable to win the war solely within South
Vietnam, and must attack North Vietnam
and "even Communist China."
"We are ready. We could go this after-
noon," claimed the 33-year-old general exu-
berantly in one of the more belligerent state-
ments to be made recently by senior Viet-
namese officers.
"I cannot assure that all provinces in
North Vietnam would be destroyed," General
Ky said, "but Hanoi would be destroyed."
Hanoi is the capital of North Vietnam.
His discussion during a press conference at
the heretofore secret airbase at Bien Hoa,
northwest of Saigon, also resulted in the first
public acknowledgement that U.S. Air Force
pilots are using Communist-led Vietcong reb-
els as "live targets" in the course of training
Vietnamese pilots to use Skyraider divebomb-
ers.
It was broadly hinted during the confer-
ence that the United States is planning to
provide the Vietnamese air force with jet
fighters.
[Administration sources in Washington
said they have no information to confirm
General Ky's claim that combat teams had
been dropped into North Vietnam. There
have been recurring reports, however, of
ground infiltration into North Vietnam on a
small scale.
[Also, American officials denied that the
United States has plans to provide the South
Vietnamese with jet combat aircraft. State
Department Press Officer Robert J. McCloskey
reiterated the American military position
that South Vietnam in any case does not
have enough trained pilots to handle them.
[Other sources said any implication that
General Ky's comments represent an Amer-
lean decision to carry the war to North Viet-
nam at this stage is unwarranted.]
The statements by the young French-
and United States-trained general obviously
discomfitted senior U.S. Air Force advisers
present at the press conference. The U.S.
advisers present were headed by Maj. Gen.
J. H. Moore, commanding the 2d Air Division,
which also includes units in Thailand.
At one point in the press conference, Gen-
eral Moore suggested that possibly the news-
men's questions and General Ky's answers
were being misunderstood owing to the Viet-
namese general's imperfect command of
English. However, during the resulting dis-
cussion between Moore and newsmen, Ky
exchanged broad grins with his staff -and
several young flight-suited pilots at the rear
of the briefing room.
Ky said that although his air force is
equipped with only a few Skyraiders recent-
ly imported from the United States, he
believed he could launch a series of raids in
North Vietnam.
He said he believed his planes would en-
counter ground fire and detection by North
Vietnam radar, but that fighter interception
could be expected only from Red Chinese
fighters based at At Nan Island about 150
miles east of North Vietnam.
Ky agreed that the Red Chinese were not
likely to remain aloof if North Vietnam was
in danger of being bombed into submission.
He added that a decision to attack North
Vietnam would be a political one, not mili-
tary, and he doubted if the government in
Saigon was prepared to take such a step now.
In announcing the commando airdrops,
Ky said he personally "dropped teams into
North Vietnam" as long as 3 years ago. Al-
though he did not specify the exact nature
of their operations, the Implication was that
they were for purposes of sabotage.
Ky said one combat team that had been
dropped in North Vietnam was interfered
with briefly by a jet fighter which he as-
sumed was Communist Chinese since most
of the North Vietnamese Air Force is de-
voted to transport duties.
Ky did not offer further details on the
activities of the combat teams sent north
aside from a comment that they were being
infiltrated by land and sea, as well as air.
It is known that at least several attempts
have been made over the past year to in-
filtrate guerrilla teams into North Vietnam,
Usually nothing further has been heard from
these teams. Most Americans feel that the
teams were captured quickly or wiped out
by the North Vietnamese.
Ky said that about 1,500 Vietnamese air
force men currently are being trained in the
United States and that an arrangement is
being sought with Thailand for jet training
there for Vietnamese pilots.
He added that he asked Secretary of De-
fense Robert McNamara during his last visit
to supply South Vietnam with the latest jets.
These he identified as the F-5 twin-jet
fighter manufactured by Northrop for sale
to NATO countries and other friendly powers
but not used by U.S. forces.
Ky said McNamara held out hope that
South Vietnam might get the jets although
agreements at Geneva forbid supplying
North or South Vietnam with jet aircraft.
When General Moore was asked whether
the United States intended to supply jets to
South Vietnam, he said it "would be a logical
assumption," since Americans are training
Vietnamese jet pilots.
At present the Vietnamese Air Force has
few pilots qualified in jets. One possibility
July 23
often mentioned is that Thailand and the
Philippines would provide jet training in
addition to regular pilot training now in
progress.
General Moore also disclosed plans for
doubling Vietnamese air force capability and
improving several airfields for larger or
faster planes.
In the discussion of training, General
Moore and airbase adviser Col. William C.
Bethea noted that during training Viet-
namese pilots fly in two-seat, side-by-side
trainer versions of the Skyraider when on
combat missions attacking enemy positions.
The officers nodded in agreement when
newsmen noted that this meant both
Americans and Vietnamese are firing at "live
targets." American policy toward Vietnam
constantly stresses the advisory and non-
combat role of the 16,000-some American
troops stationed here.
Two-year-old Bien Hoa Airbase where
the press conference took place, long has
been declared off limits to the press, al-
though it is known commonly that fighter-
bomber training is in progress there.
[From the New York Times, July 23, 1964]
SABOTAGE RAIDS ON NORTH CONFIRMED BY
SAIGON AIDE
(By Peter Grose)
SAIGON, SOUTH VIETNAM, July 22.-The
commander of South Vietnam's Air Force
confirmed today that "combat teams" had
been sent on sabotage missions inside Com-
munist North Vietnam and that Vietnamese
pilots were being trained for possible larger-
scale attacks.
Teams have entered North Vietnam by "air,
sea, and land," Air Commodore Nguyen Cao
Ky said at a news conference.
He indicated that clandestine missions had
been dispatched at intervals for at least 3
years. This confirmed, in effect, charges of
such penetration broadcast by the Hanoi
radio.
TEAMS HAVE LITTLE SUCCESS
From evidence so far made know unoffi-
cially, these raids have had virtually no suc-
cess. More than 80 percent of undercover
teams were reported to have been appre-
hended before they had made any progress
in their sabotage missions.
More infiltration teams are undergoing
training, Commodore Ky said. He also said
that Vietnamese pilots were being trained
to fly jets on bombing attacks. Thirty Viet-
namese have qualified as jet fliers, he added.
"We are ready," Commodore Ky said. "We
could go this afternoon. I cannot assure
that all of North Vietnam would be de-
stroyed, but Hanoi would certainly be de-
stroyed"
His statements disturbed the commander
of the U.S. 2d Air Division, Maj Gen. Joseph
H. Moore, who attended the news conference.
At one point, General Moore tried to suggest
that Commodore Ky did not have a complete
command of English and might be misinter-
preting questions. At another time, the gen-
eral said that newsmen were twisting Com-
modore Ky's statements.
United States policy has been to restrain
South Vietnamese leaders In their evident
enthusiasm for an extension of the war to
the North. The reasoning has been that such
actions would divert energies from the task
of defeating the Communist insurgency In
South Vietnam.
Commodore Ky's insistence on acknowl-
edging past sabotage missions and readiness
to undertake more and bigger attacks in the
future reflected the stand taken by Premier
Nguyen Khanh in a speech delivered Sun-
day. General Khanh led a mass meeting in
a shout of "to the North."
[From the New York Times, July 23, 1964]
COMMODORE WENT ON RAID
SAIGON, July 22.-Commodore Ky disclosed
today that he had personally piloted a plane
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1964 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE
Members on pension (as provided in art. 111-
A, sec, 3, par. B of employees' benefit
agreement as amended)
1947--------------------------------- 2,891
1948-------------------------------- 2,984
1949-------------------------------- 3,346
1950-------------------------------- 4,024
1951-------------------------------- 4,355
1952-------------------------------- 4,697
1953-------------------------------- 5,264
1954-------------------------------- 6,134
1955-------------------------------- 6,991
1956-------------------------------- 7,816
1957-------------------------------- 8,151
1958-------------------------------- 7,533
1959--------------------------------- 6,972
1960-------------------------------- 6,425
1961-------------------------------- 5,936
1962-------------------------------- 5,418
1963-------------------------------- 4,924
Men on pension: expected demand on pen-
sion fund (according to actuarial studies)
1955-------------------------------- 6,471
1960------------------------------- 11,917
1965-------------------------------- 20,388
1970------------------------------- 32,367
1975------------------------------- 36,517
1980------------------------------- 40,677
Accumulated total payments received by
board of trustees from the national elec-
trical benefit board
1947-----------------------
1948-----------------------
1949-----------------------
1950----------------- ------
1951----------------------_-
1952------------------------
1953-----------------------
1954----------------- __----
1955-----------------------
1956-----------------------
1957------------------------
1958-----------------------
1959-----------------------
1960-----------------------
1961-----------------------
$1,257,623.55
3, 404474.31
5,478:499.14
7, 547, 505.77
10, 880, 018. 76
16, 791, 977.08
23, 219, 629.52
31,569,801.00
39.675 , 686.95
50, 405, 686.95
59, 800, 686.95
68, 625, 686.95
77, 550686.95
87,150:686.96
97, 050, 686. 95
1962 ------------------------- 107,650,686.95
1963_______________________ 118,600,686.95
Statement of receipts and disbursements
Cash on hand Jan. 1, 1963____ $405,541. 54
Cash receipts:
Contributions from NEBB__ 10, 950, 000. 00
Payments-Real estate
loans-------------------- 11,404,631.57
Interest:
Real estate loans------ 3,448,440. 37
Securities -------------- 278, 82650
Sale of securities__________ 9, 840, 210..00
Dividends ------------ ------ 156,326.00
Rent---------------------- 30,000.00
Commitment fees and
discounts ---------------- 5,526.00
Cash disbursements:
Pensions paid_____________ 3, 081, 256.00
Securities purchased:
Real estate loans-------- 19,892,458.00
Securities--------------- 6,031, 083. DO
Time deposits ----------- 5, 250, 000.00
Stocks and bonds-------- 1, 176, 641. 00
Investment expenses------ 262,759.00
Postage and supplies------ 4,460.00
Other_____________________ 13,389.00
Statement of receipts and disbursements-
Continued
Receipts from the national electrical benefit
fund by quarters--Continued
Cash Dec. 81, 1963:
1991
American Security & Trust
Amount
Co____________________ $660,307.00
March ----------------------- $2,350,000.00
American Security & Trust
June -------------------------
2, 300, 000.00
Co. Agency-------------- 60,301.00
September -------------------- 2,500,000.00
In transit----------------- 36,745.98
December --------------------- 2, 750, 000.00
Bank of Nova Scotia ------ 14,650.00
1962
In transit----------------- 35, 450. 00
March ------------------------
2,450,000.00
TotaL ----------------- 807,453.98
June -------------------------
September____________________
2, 600, 000.00
2,750, 000. 00
December
2
800
000
00
Receipts from the national electrical benefit
fund by quarters
---------------------
1963
,
,
.
1947
Amount
June ------------------------ $284,489.98
September -------------------- 424, 867. 73
December --------------- .__-__ 548, 265. 84
1948
March ----------------------- 459,789.49
June ------------------------- 598,898.12
September --------------------- 534, 026. 90
December____________________ 554,136.25
1949
March ------------------------
June-------------------------
September--------------------
December --------------------
1950
March------------------------
June-------------------------
548,528.46
612, 633.43
485, 260. 70
427, 602.24
391, 057.87
526, 448. 06
September -------------------- 880,989.66
December -------------------- 470,511.04
1951
March ----------------------- 573,773.54
June ------------------------- 803,385.69
September -------------------- 832,518.92
December_______________ _____ 1, 122, 832. 84
1952
March ------------------------ 1,418,242.35
June_________________________ 1,397,827.78
September -------------------- 1, 837, 450. 49
December --------------------- 1, 458, 439. 70
1953
March ------------------------ 1, 458, 876.96
June ------------------------- 1, 650, 052.47
September ___----------------- 1,723, 872. 01
December --------------------- 1, 594, 851. 00
1954
March_______________ ----- 1, 794, 740.46
June ------ _------------------ 1,872,843.05
September -------------- .----- 1, 820, 376.39
December --------------------- 2, 862, 011.58
1955
March ------------------------ 1,917,154.98
June ------------------------- 1, 904, 222.16
September -------------------- 2, 199, 701.55
December --------------------- 2,085, 007.26
1956
March ------------------------ 4,465,000.00
June ------------------------- 1, 915, 000.00
September -------------------- 2, 085, 000. 00
December____________________ 2, 265, 000. 00
1957
March ------------------------ 2,015,000.00
June ------------------------- 2,305,000.00
September -------------------- 2, 475, 000. 00
December --------------------- 2,600,000.00
1958
March------------------------ 2, 150000.00
June_________________________ 2,180:000.00
September -------------------- 2, 220, 000. 00
December --------------------- 2, 275, 000. 00
1959
March __________________-_____ 2,200,000.00
June ------------------------- 1, 975, 000. 00
September-------------------- 2, 350, 000. 00
December_______________ _____ 2, 400, 000. 00
1960
March----------------------- 2,200,000.00
June------------------------- 2, 250, 000. 00
September-------------------- 2, 500, 000.00
December --------------- ------ 2, 650, 000. 00
March_______________________ 2,625,000.00
June------------------------- 2, 325, 000.00
September -------------------- 2,850.000.00
December____________________ 3,150,000.00
Quarterly receipts from national electrical
benefit fund, 1962-63
March:
1962-------------------------
$2,450,000
1963-------------------------
2,625,000
June:
1962--------------------------
2,600,000
1983-------------------------
2,325,000
September:
1963-------------------------
December:
1962_________________________
2, 800,000
1963-------------------------
3,150,000
You will note that in the statement re
number of members on pension-1963, that
six members were admitted to pension.
These were IBEW members admitted to pen-
sion prior to the NLRB ruling and who later
returned to the trade. They have now again
asked to receive their pension.
The net decrease In number of electrical
workers receiving pension from the pension
benefit trust fund in December 1963 was
494. In December 1962 it was 518. The
total number of persons receiving pensions
from the pension benefit trust in December
1963, as shown in our statement, was 4,924.
However, it should be pointed out here that
the actual number of members receiving
pensions from this fund and the IBEW pen-
sion fund was 20,773.
By the time that this report went to press
that figure had increased to 21,789.
CONCLUSION
That concludes the statistical report and
the observations which your trustees feel
should be a part of this annual report to
the national board. Behind the figures re-
ported here of the millions collected and
the mililons paid out in pensions, there are
living human beings to whom the millions
are paid in $50 a month payments. Every
month dozens of letters are received from
grateful retirees who explain how much that
$50 supplement means to them in terms of
food and medicine and simple pleasures.
These are the men who helped to make our
industry one of the greatest and most pro-
gressive in the world.
It is a good feeling to know that NECA-
IBEW cooperation has been extended to in-
clude them also.
We close our report for 1963 with a note
on the encouraging outlook for the electrical
industry the years ahead-portend. The long-
range outlook is good, and the forecasts of
business outlays for the immediate future are
up 12 to 15 percent over 1963 spending. It is
believed that 1964 will exceed the previous
record set in 1956 when the era of postwar
industrial rehabilitation reached Its peak,
and that this boom will continue into 1965.
In the bright years ahead your trustees are
convinced that the National Electrical Con-
tractors Association and the International
Brotherhood of Electrical Workers will con-
tinue to cooperate and seek still other areas
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over North Vietnam and that the raids were
continuing.
"We keep very low and they can't hit us,"
he said.
A U.S. official, who declined to be identi-
fied, that he understood Commodore Ky's
flight was made 3 years ago, which by now
was "ancient history."
"I don't think you should make too much
of Ky's remarks," the official said, "and they
shouldn't be taken out of context. It sounds
as if we're on the verge of war, when in
reality, we're not. I hope this thing doesn't
get out of hand."
There had been earlier reports from Wash-
ington, however, that U.S. Special Forces were
training South Vietnamese raiders for action
In North Vietnam. These reports came from
informed sources who said U.S. soldiers were
not being included In the raiding groups be-
cause they would be too conspicuous in a
party of Asians and because participation by
Americans would be hostile action against
another country.
The Hanoi radio has repeatedly broadcast
announcements of trials of "spy comman-
dos" captured in North Vietnam.
There have been unconfirmed reports dur-
ing the last week of stepped-up sabotage ac-
tivity by South Vietnamese agents, using
mines and bombs, around the North Viet-
namese cities of Hanoi, Vinh, Thanh Hoa, and
Haiphong.
Commodore Ky told his news conference
that he believed Communist China would
probably move Into the fight if North Viet-
nam were bombed. He said that South Viet-
nam should proceed nonetheless to combat
Hanoi's work In support of the Vietcong
guerrillas.
The commodore's disclosure came as U.S.
advisers expressed growing concern about
successful Communist ambuspes in South
Vietnam.
A high American officer forecast bitterly
that the ambushes would continue until
Vietnamese troops learned to post security
patrols each time they move.
"We're begging, we're pleading, we're re-
minding them," the officer said. "We're ca-
joling, we cry, we stamp out in fury, we do
Khanh and his military cohorts are noth-
ing but stooges of the United States. We
must assume responsibility for their acts
of aggression in North Vietnam. We
supply them with their planes, military
weapons, training, and we send Ameri-
can drafted boys into South Vietnam to
die. Our undeclared war in South Viet-
nam is a shameful bloody blot on the
pages of U.S. history.
TRIBUTE TO SENATOR ERVIN AS
CONSTITUTIONAL WATCHDOG
Mr. ROBERTSON. Mr. President, I
ask unanimous consent to have printed
in the body of the REcoRm a very fine and
well-merited tribute to our finest con-
stitutional lawyer, Hon. SAM ERVIN, of
North Carolina.
There being no objection, the tribute
was ordered to be printed in the RECORD,
as follows:
SAM ERVIN: CONSTITUTIONAL WATCHDOG-
ATTENTIVE TO RIGHTS OF THE UNFORTUNATE
(By Luther J. Carter, Virginian-Pilot
Washington writer)
WASHINGTON.-A Senator may be better
known for his occasional flamboyant public
acts than for steady, inconspicuous service
of more abiding value. Such may well be
the case with Senator SAM J. ERVIN, JR., the
former North Carolina Supreme Court Jus-
tice who conducted a little filibuster of his
own last year in grilling Bobby Kennedy on
the civil rights bill.
Senator ERVIN is chairman of the hard-
working Judiciary Subcommittee on Consti-
tutional Rights, which exercises a continu-
ing oversight of the rights of every citizen.
The subcommittee has been particularly at-
tentive to the rights of those who may be
in a poor way to protect themselves. The
rights of the enlisted man in military serv-
ice, the American Indian, the mentally in,
everything, we bring them ice cream. But and the down and out who find themselves
we haven't succeeded." denied ball without just cause are all the
Communist military activity has reached subject of new legislative safeguards, either
its highest level since the Vietcong staged an already enacted or currently being proposed.
offensive last November. No one who attended the subcommittee
The latest in a series of Vietcong ambush hearings of 1962 on the constitutional rights
victories was a battle yesterday in Chuong of servicemen could fail to have been im-
Thien Province, near the southern tip of pressed by the thoroughness and quality of
Vietnam. the staff work that preceded and followed
Disciplined, black-garbed Communist Sol- them.
fifers killed at least 26 Government troops, It was a valuable inquiry which showed
wounded more than 100, and are presumed such shortcomings in military justice as a
to have captured 135 missing men. too frequent resort to administrative
Mr. MORSE. Mr. President, I should discharges without court-martial, excessive
use of summary proceedings in which the
like to make a brief comment. Let us accused had scant protection, lack of ade-
face the fact that the United States is quate trial records, and frequently the ab-
now at war in North Vietnam as well Bence of competent defense counsel.
as South Vietnam if these stories are Some corrective steps already have been
true-and I understand that they are taken by Congress and the military, and more
true. We are at war by way of subter- are on the way. Eighteen bills to safeguard
fuge. If those stories are true we are the rights of military personnel are even
now-and there is no now under consideration in the subcommit-
question about tee. The diligent pursuit of a legislative in-
it-an out-and-out aggressor against quiry well into the third year after starting
another power in southeast Asia; namely, it is commendable in itself; for a congres-
North Vietnam, That makes us clearly sional committee to drop an investigation
in violation of our treaty obligations after fully exploiting its publicity value is
under the United Nations Charter. not the norm, but each deviation from that
I hope that our country will change its practice is worthy of a cheer.
course of action immediately and not let BOBBY BAKER'S PENSION
a group of little military tyrants operat- Part of the credit for the subcommittee's
ing in a military dictatorship in South performance goes to William A. Creech, its
Vietnam jeopardize the lives of millions able and articulate counsel and staff di-
of Americans which will be jeopardized rector who practiced law in Smithfield, N.C.,
But much
if we do not stop them from leading us as until chairman n and d hired overseer, him. deserves much
into a full-scale war in Asia. The mill- praise for giving the staff its sense of direc-
tary dictator of South Vietnam, General tion and steadiness of purpose.
The Senator's interest in the Constitution
and the safeguards it affords is deep and
genuine; evidence of this was seen recently
in a little, largely unreported episode involv-
ing the notorious, unloved Bobby Baker.
Thursday a week ago, ERVIN walked on to the
Senate floor just as Senator JOHN J.
WILLIAMS, of Delaware, was offering an
amendment to the Federal pay bill.
WILLIAMS, beneath whose mild exterior are
joined the Instincts of a bulldog and a ferret,
proposed to deny pension rights to any em-
ployee of the Government who withholds
from a congressional committee documents
or testimony relating to his official duties.
The effect of the proposal, which was to
apply retroactively to September 26, 1961,
would have fallen squarely upon Bobby
Baker, who invoked the fifth amendment
rather than tell of his exciting and profit-
able extracurricular activities as Secretary to
the Senate majority.
LAPSED INTO SILENCE
ERVIN did not speak up for Baker, whose
friends In the Senate have either lapsed into
silence or crept under rocks as crayfish will
do in a creekbed, but he said more than a
word for the sanctity of the Constitution,
which has been called the greatest instru-
ment ever struck off by the hand and pur-
pose of man.
"The amendment is a flagrant, brazen vio-
lation of the Constitution, as interpreted by
the Supreme Court," said ERVIN. He said
that besides penalizing a man for exercising
his rights under the fifth amendment, the
Williams proposal would apply retroactively,
and hence violate the Constitution's pro-
hibition of ex post facto laws.
Several Senators rallied to WILLIAMS, while
two voiced objections similar to ERVIN'S.
Senator JOSEPH S. CLARK, of Pennsylvania, a
liberal Democrat who quite often parts com-
pany with ERVIN on Senate rollcalls, said
the Williams amendment was "fundamen-
tally un-American."
This was the point of view that carried the
day, the amendment being rejected 52 to 38.
It was a brief episode in a busy Senate day
and attracted little notice. But it served to
suggest that ERVIN is watchful for those
passing moods and humors in which Con-
gress might chip away at a citizen's rights.
TENNESSEE PREPARATORY SCHOOL
GRADUATE SAYS THANKS TO TAX-
PAYERS
Mr. WALTERS. Mr. President, I ask
unanimous consent to have printed in
the RECORD a letter from a young man in
my State, which was published in the
Nashville Banner of June 30, 1964.
I believe that this is one more out-
standing example of the character of to-
day's young people, our future leaders.
It is particularly reassuring in view of
the present widespread emphasis on
juvenile delinquency.
There being no objection, the letter
was ordered to be printed in the RECORD,
as follows:
TENNESSEE PREPARATORY SCHOOL GRADUATE
SAYS THANKS TO TAXPAYERS
To the EDITOR OF THE BANNER:
This is an open letter to the taxpayers of
Tennessee.
I would like to take this opportunity to ex-
press my deepest appreciation to all the
people for the parts they have played in my
life.
I am a product of the Tennessee Prepara-
tory School. Having entered the school at
the age of 10 and leaving at the age of 18, I
have spent almost half my life under the
watchful care, being fed, clothed, educated,
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and disciplined by the resources you have
provided.
I am fortunate to have never known nak-
edness, hunger, homelessness, lack of dis-
cipline, or the promise of an Insecure tomor-
row. I was taught respect for people. I was
taught appreciation of a fine, comfortable
home, was proud to have a part in its care.
After leaving high school, you are enabling
me to further my studies through your col-
lege funds. I shall attend Tennessee Prepara-
tory Institute here in Tennessee, majoring
in industrial technology, using the allotment
furnished from your college fund. I am in-
debted to you for this opportunity that
gave me both the desire and the drive to
further my education. My regret is the reali-
zation that many of you were never afforded
this opportunity and yet gave unselfishly
to my support.
I am particularly grateful to Mr. John K.
Edgington, who, more than any one individ-
ual, has influenced me as a teacher, counselor,
and steadfast friend. I am grateful to all the
faculty for their personal interest in one
among many, for their patience, understand-
ing discipline and fine example. I believe
they are some of the finest and most capable
people I know.
The bulk of my gratitude is to all of you-
for you are responsible for the development,
aims, and success of my future. You have
made me, both directly and indirectly, what
I am. I am proud to have been a student
at the Tennessee Preparatory School, which
has really been a home, and I am Indebted
PHILIP W. SCOFIELD,
Graduate of 1964 ClaSs.
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whoever he may be, or the county oo- States, might be regarded as offensive to
ciais are actually creatures of the Gov- local communities and much more dif-
ernment. I believe what we should do is ficult than if Congress wrote the rules of
to confine this particular provision to the game into this legislation. It seems
private nonprofit organizations that to me that the right thing to do is to give
might be in the business of making con- the Senate a clear shot at its objec-
tracts with the Federal Government. tive in order to get the job done; and the
This is the area that we felt needed to way to do it is to amend the provision
be covered, and we therefore covered it, which is now before the Senate.
not only with respect to title II, as was I have consulted with the Parliamen-
attempted to be done by the amendment tarian, and have learned that it cannot
offered by the Senator from Vermont be done in this manner. In order to ar-
[Mr. PROUTY], but we also extended it to rive at this solution, it would be necessary
title I, where it was also needed. for the Senate to reject this amendment,
In some respects, I believe the amend- and have another proposal before it with
ment goes further with respect to the words "public agency" in it as well
protecting States rights than did the as the words relating to private agen-
Prouty amendment. cies.
Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. President, will As I sense the sentiment of the Senate.
the Senator yield me 1 minute? My whole intent and design has never
Mr. SMATHERS. I yield such time to been to make my views necessarily those
the Senator from Georgia as he may of the Senate, but to do something which
need. would be, in my judgment, necessary to
Mr. RUSSELL. Mr. President, I ask proper foreif the governmental organization. o . the will unanimous consent to have printed i amendment, I hope the authors
the RECORD amendment No. . 1127, being g pending
the original amendment I proposed upon will, or I will, submit the substitute again
this subject. with the words "or public agency" in it.
There being no objection, the amend- Because that seems to be the clear pur-
ment (No. 1127) was ordered to be pose and intent of the Senate, as well
printed in the RECORD, as follows: as of the Senator from Georgia, I hope
On page 105, between lines 10 and 11, in- the movers will withdraw the amend-
sert a new section as follows: ment, and adopt what appears to be the
"REQUIREMENT FOR STATE APPROVAL OF ASSIST- sense of Members of the Senate. But if
AGENCIES that is not done, the only recourse for
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Shan be made with, or grant, loan, or other
assistance provided to, any private nonprofit
or other private institution or organization
for the purpose of carrying out any program,
project, or other activity within a State un-
less a plan setting forth such proposed con-
tract, agreement, grant, loan, or other
assistance has been submitted to the Gov-
ernor of the State, and such plan has not
been disapproved by him within thirty days
of such submission."
On page 105, line 12, strike out "SEC. 608"
and insert in lieu thereof "SEC. 609".
On page 105, line 18, strike out "SEC. 609"
and insert in lieu thereof "SEC. 610".
Mr. JAVITS. Mr. President, will the
Senator yield me some time in opposi-
tion?
Mr. HUMPHREY. I yield the Sen-
ator some time on the bill.
Mr. JAVITS. Mr. President, if I may
have 2 or 3 minutes, the deficiency in the
particular proposal which is before us
lies in the fact that it excludes public
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The Senate resumed the consideration
of the bill (S. 2642) to mobilize the hu-
man and financial resources of the Na-
tion to combat poverty in the United
States.
Mr. SMATHERS. Mr. President, first,
I ask for the yeas and nays on the sub-
stitute.
The yeas and nays were ordered.
Mr. SMATHERS. Mr. President. I do
not believe that any further explanation
of the substitute is needed. I am pre-
pared to yield back the remainder of my
time after making one short statement.
My substitute grew out of an amend-
ment that was first prepared by the able
and distinguished senior Senator from
Georgia. After talking with him, the
Senator from Minnesota, and the pros-
pective director of the new service--
Mr.GRUENING. Mr. President, may
we have order? We cannot hear the
speaker.
The PRESIDING OFFICER. The Sen-
ator will suspend. The Senate will be in
order. The Senator may proceed.
Mr. SMATHERS. In consideration of
what each of the parties was trying to
do--those interested in the protection of
States rights, in the one instance, and
those interested in the the endeavor not
to interfere with the existing contractual
programs which are now going on be-
tween some agencies of the government
in higher educational institutions-and
in consideration of the fact that we did
not want absolutely to tie the hands of
the director in dealing with certain pub-
lic agencies, and with the presumption
that public agencies, such as the State
ti
,
c
a
on
welfare director, the State conserva
commissioner, the State athletic director, assertion of authority which, in some would not have to pay any attention to
,
es
a
agencies, and re
nonprofit agencies. I have heard the that that both bpriva a and publicoinsti-
m Geor-
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at
ro
or
explanation Of the Sen
gia, who is a very able lawyer, and who tutions should be included. Apparently
is entirely correct in his statement. But the authors are unwilling to accept that.
this still leaves the question to be de- Mr. SALTONSTALL. Mr. President,
cided by the Senate. It is true that a will the Senator yield 2 minutes to me?
State, by enacting certain legislation, Mr. TOWER. I yield to the Senator
can inhibit every one of its subdivisions from Massachusetts.
dealing with the poverty program, un- Mr. SALTONSTALL. I may say to the
less the Government will allow it. That Senator from Florida, and the Senator
is pretty demeaning. It has to be af- from Georgia, and Senators from other
firmatively done. Congress is "writing States that permit Governors to have
the ticket." I believe we could make the control over officials like the commis-
operation more dignified by providing sioner of public welfare, that in my State
the Governor authority with respect to he does not have any such control. The
both public and private agencies. Public Welfare Commissioner of Massa-
ANCE TO NONGOVERNMENT
"SEC. 608. In carrying out the provisions the Senate would be to reject this sub-
stitute, and then endeavor to adopt a
I agree with the Senator from Georgia chusetts is elected for a term of so many
but it represents an years. Therefore, the Commissioner
an be done
t it
th
substitute which seems to represent the
sense of the majority of the Members of
the Senate. I believe it should include
the words "or public agency." " Then we
shall have adopted what the Senate in-
dicates is the desire of the Senate in re-
gard to this particular matter.
Mr. MILLER. Mr. President, will the
Senator yield for a brief question?
Mr. JAVITS. I yield.
Mr. MILLER. I ask the Senator from
New York whether or not he has asked
the Senator from Florida if he will agree
to modify the amendment in the manner
in which the Senator from New York has
described. I have not heard that discus-
sion.
Mr. JAVITS. I have. The Senator
from Georgia explained in great detail
that he felt that if a State wished to im-
pose that inhibition against local sub-
divisions, it could do so by legislation. I
argued that those efforts would be diffi-
cult ones to impose upon a State, and
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