THE CHANGING SITUATION IN CUBA

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Approved For Release 2004/06/23 : CIA-RDP65B00383R000200230009-8 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE 21383 The motion was agreed to; and the Presiding Officer appointed Mr. EAST- LAND, Mr. JOHNSTON, Mr. MCCLELLAN, Mr. HRUSKA, and Mr. KEATING conferees on the part of the Senate. NOTICE OF INTENTION TO FILE RE- PORT ON SUPPLEMENTAL APPRO- PRIATION BILL Mr. HOLLAND. Madam President, earlier in the day a colloquy ensued on the floor of the Senate relative to the last supplemental appropriation bill. I have already advised the Senator from Georgia [Mr. RussELL] and the Senator from Florida [Mr. SMATHERS] that I in- tend to file the report on the bill without fail as soon as possible after the conven- ing of the Senate on Monday, or even prior thereto, if that be within the rule. I desire that all Senators be advised of that fact. Mr. SMATHERS. I thank my col- league. NOMINATION OF REPRESENTATIVE KATHRYN GRANAHAN, OF PENN- SYLVANIA, TO BE TREASURER OF THE UNITED STATES Mr. SCOTT. Madam President, I heartily endorse the nomination of Rep- resentative KATHRYN E. GRANAHAN, Of Pennsylvania, to be Treasurer of the United States. Her nomination was re- ported favorably this afternoon by the Committee on Finance and will be on the Executive Calendar on Monday. I am certain that she will do honor to the post of Treasurer of the United States. I served in Congress for many years with KATHRYN GRANAHAN. She is a wo- man of very attractive personality and has made innumerable friends. The nomination of a woman to this high Federal post is recognition of the fact that there are many more quali- fied women who could and should be ap- pointed to more posts in Government than are now being appointed. NEED FOR REVISION OF SENATE RULES Mr. SCOTT. Madam President, I de- sire to echo the statement made by the senior Senator from New York [Mr. JAv- ITS] that we must again do our level best to amend the archaic and often in- operable rules of the Senate. I believe a hard battle must be waged next Janu- ary for the amendment of rule XXII. I think it is obvious that only the absten- tion of certain Senators from the floor enabled the cloture petition to succeed this year. I believd the original ob- stacle still prevails, so far as the clear- ance of civil rights measures to the floor is concerned. In that and other mat- ters, I believe the rules of the Senate should be made more realistic in accord- ance with the needs of Congress and the rights of the people involved. PROPOSED AMENDMENT OF CLOTURE RULE Mr. HUMPHREY. Madam Presi- dent- Mr. SMATHERS. Madam President, the attention of the Senate and the Na- I ask unanimous consent that I may tion the difficulties which are presented yield 4 minutes to the Senator from when a majority of the elected Members Minnesota. of this body attempt to get to a vote, The PRESIDING OFFICER. With- after a full and fair debate, on a proposi- out objection, it is so ordered. tion to which there is strong sectional Mr. HUMPHREY. I thank the Sena- opposition. tor from Florida. Madam President, the precedents al- Madam President, it was the hope of ready established at the opening of Con- a number of Senators that the sine die adjournment would occur tomorrow. However, we now know that will not be possible. However, before the sine die adjourn- ment of the 87th Congress, certain Sen- ators, including myself and the Senator from Michigan [Mr. HART], wish to know about the situation in regard to the de- termination of certain Senators to work for a change in rule XXII at the be- ginning of the 88th Congress, in Janu- ary 1963. A letter signed by the Sena- tor from Michigan [Mr. HART] and my- self has been sent to certain Senators, in order toalert our colleagues as to our intention to request their support of our effort in January 1963, to bring about a change in rule XXII. There has been a clear demonstration of the need for a clear-cut antifilibuster rule which would permit a, majority of the Members of the Senate to proceed to vote after full and fair debate. The time to make this - proposal is at the opening of a new Congress. We hope other Senators will join us in supporting that effort. It is said that the successful cloture vote this year demonstrates the work- ability of the present antifilibuster rule. However, I disagree with that argument. It is apparent that the- present rule will not be successful if there is strong op- position to ending debate on a measure of considerable controversy. For ex- ample, I do not believe that under the present rule there is a real chance to obtain the necessary two-thirds vote in order to end debate and obtain action on meaningful civil-rights legislation. The letter which has been sent is very much in line with the statement I am making now. As I have said, the letter was signed - by the. Senator from Michi- gan [Mr. HART] and myself. We are seeking the advice of Senators in regard to how to proceed in ,January. We hope that in January we shall be able to arrive at a consensus of opinion as to the type of rule change to be pro- posed, and we hope to be able to enlist the support of the overwhelming ma- jority of Members of the Senate. We rule is needed; and I shall do my best Michigan [Mr. HART] have sent -out. + At to secure the adoption of a rule change the moment I can name only -four of which will make it possible to have the those five; they are the Senator from vote on a controversial measure taken California [Mr. KUCHELI, my colleague after full and fair debate has been had, [Mr. KEATING], the Senator_ from New so that a majority of the Senate will be Jersey [Mr. CASE], the Senator from able to work its will. Pennsylvania [Mr. ScoTT], and myself. Mr. HART. Madam President, as the In this connection, we have an infor- Senator from Minnesota has said, he mal liaison with Senators on the Demo- and I have addressed to a number of our cratic side; and we shall give our utmost colleagues a letter indicating our inten- support in the fight to amend rule XXII. tion again to join-at the opening of the I hope that the change in the rule next Congress-in the endeavor to ob-. which will be made in January will be tain an effective anti-filibuster rule. in accordance with the so-called Douglas Very considerable progress has been plan, which provides that after 30 days made in the past 10 years in bringing to of debate, debate may be ended by the Approved For Release 2004/06/23 : CIA-RDP65B00383R000200230009-8 gress in previous years clearly indicate that this is the orderly,and proper time for the Senate to consider the rules which - will govern its procedures. Both party "platforms support a change in the anti- filibuster rule. Both party platforms support meaningful - civil rights legisla- tion. There is no doubt in my mind that a further modification of rule =II must occur if, in fact, we expect the Congress to meet its responsibilities in the area of long overdue civil rights legislation. Efforts have previously been made to change the rules. The record shows a growing number of supporters. Such a rule change was first proposed at the opening of Congress in January 1953. In that year, those seeking to take up the rule question at the opening of the 83d- Congress mustered only 21 votes. In January 1961, 48 Senators wanted to change the rule at the opening of the 87th Congress. There are those who would argue that the experience this year on the cloture vote during the debate on the com- munications satellite bill demonstrates the -workability of the present rule. But I believe it would be a real pipedream to imagine that the filibuster used today by those who represent strong sectional interests could be effectively broken under. the present cloture rule. I hope that in the weeks and- months ahead we shall be able to develop sup- port for such a change. At the opening of the 88th Congress, the Senate will have an opportunity to free itself from a most restrictive practice, one which prevents the Senate from meeting its re- sponsibilities at mid-20th-century in the critical area of legislation necessary to protect basic human and civil rights. Mr. JAVITS. Madam President, will the Senator from Minnesota yield? Mr. HUMPHREY. I yield. Mr. JAVITS. Madam President, on our side, in the asbence of the Senator from California [Mr. KucHEL], who is taking the lead in the matter on our side, I wish to state that five of us are today sending to our Republican colleagues a letter which is precisely the same as the letter which the Senator from Minnesota Approved For Release 2004/06/23 : CIA-RDP65B00383R000200230009-8 21384 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE October 5 affirmative votes of a constitutional ma- fags by former vice President Nixon and strates a unanimity which has thus far jority of the Senate. according to the Constitution-is the been lacking, and demonstrates an At the time of the debate on the satel- proper time to do so. awareness on the part of the countries lite bill and the successful cloture vote Mr. HUMPHREY. That Is correct. of Central and South America of the in connection with that bill. I said I Mr. JAVITS. I thank the Senator real menace of communism in Cuba to thought the invoking of cloture at that from Minnesota. all those countries. time would not be harmful to the at- Mr. KEATING. Madam President, I was delighted to see that such coun- tempt we proposed to make in January will the Senator from Minnesota yield tries as Brazil, Mexico, and Argentina 1963, to amend rule XXII. I stated that to me? were willing to go along with such a I felt sure that the cloture vote on the Mr. HUMPHREY. I yield. strongly worded resolution. I think, satellite bill would clearly indicate that Mr. KEATING. In January, when we overall, it means that great progress has an attempt to invoke cloture under the make our bipartisan effort to change been made. present rule could be successful only rule XXII, we shall surely be met with I think much of the credit for it is de- when a very special situation existed; the argument that in 1962, the effort to served by the President of the United namely, only when a substantial num- invoke cloture was successful, and there- States. I was not privileged to be at the ber of Senators were willing to absent fore no change in the rule is needed. luncheon which was held in the White themselves, rather than participate in However, that is a fallacious argument. House on, last Tuesday, I believe, at the vote on the question of invoking All of us know that the method by which which he invited an the foreign ministers cloture; and I said that that situation cloture was obtained in 1962 could have of the Western Hemisphere. It is my was a clear Indication that, in terms of been successful only on this one issue, information that he talked to them -in dealing with legislative proposals gen- and only then because a substantial rather straightforward and stern lan- erally, it is necessary that rule XXII be number of Senators were willing to guage about the need for action on the amended. In short, I stated that the absent themselves from the Chamber and part of the Central American countries action taken by the Senate in Invoking not participate in the cloture vote. It particularly the Caribbean countries, cloture in connection with the debate on would not enhance the prestige of the and all the other countries in the West- the satellite bill constituted an important Senate to continue under a rule that ern Hemisphere for united and strong precedent in favor of effecting an necessitates that if cloture is to be in- action In opposing the Communist gov- amendment to rule XXII. voked, certain- Senators must absent ernment of Cuba. What he had to say I hope that we shall be able to repeat themselves. Obviously, this is the only In the White House had a great deal to that argument most strongly at the time way by which cloture could have been do with the satisfactory results which of the convening of the new Congress obtained in the debate on the commu- we saw were accomplished only yester- In January, which is the proper time, ac- nications satellite bill. day, when the foreign ministers wound cording to the rulings by former Vice in short, it is still absolutely essential up their meeting. President Nixon, for changes in the rules that a meaningful change be made in I also wish to take a moment to con- to be made. rule XXII to make possible the enact- gratulate the Secretary General, Mr. Mr. HUMPHREY. Madam President, ment of meaningful civil rights legis- Jose Mora. for his leadership and his ex- I loin the Senator from New York in lation. pressed belief that the time had long expressing the hope that by means of a I am sure that the rule envisioned by since passed when all the countries of bipartisan effort, we shall be able to the distinguished assistant majority the Western Hemisphere, all the coun- succeed in this endeavor. leader and the other interested Senators tries of the American States, should do Mr. JAVITS. I thank the Senator will allow more than ample time for more than they had done with respect, from Minnesota. debate on any issue on earth. I stress first, to proscribing Communist activ- Madam President, as I have said, the that I am referring to earth-bound sties in the Western Hemisphere, and, Senator from California [Mr. KUCHELI, issues, like civil rights, not esoteric second, getting rid of communism In who is taking the lead on our side in subjects that are off in outer space. Cuba, I congratulate Secretary General connection with the letter, is due to Madam President, certainly there must Mora for the statement he made and the return to the Chamber In a moment or come a time, in a government of the leadership which has been provided. two. people, when their legislative body can My only regret now is that it did not Mr. HUMPHREY. Madam President, come to grips with this very fundamental occur a little sooner. However, I am I discussed this subject with the Senator problem. It must not be stymied by p happy that it has finally happened, 2 days ago, and it was clearly understood minority, with the result that minority In that connection. I ask unanimous that on the Republican side, action simi- rule, rather than majority rule, exists in consent to have printed at this point in lar to that already taken on the Demo- the Congress. the RECORD an editorial which appeared cratic side would be taken. In short, we I pledge myself to the majority leader in the Washington Evening Star of are working together, and also with our and to the other Senators that I will Thursday, September 27, 1962, entitled respective groups; and, as I have said, exert my full efforts to bring about a "The Menace in Cuba." In January the Senator from Michigan meaningful change In rule XXII at the The PRESIDING OFFICER (Mrs. [Mr. HART], the Senator from Illinois beginning of the next session. NEUBERGER in the chair). Is there ob- [Mr. DOUGLAS]. myself, the Senator from jection? Oregon [Mr. Moass], the Senator from There being no objection, the editorial New Mexico [Mr. ANDERSON]-who has HE CHANGING SITUATION IN was ordered to be printed in the RECORD, been a strong leader in this fight-and t1 CUBA other Senators will join forces in the ef- THE MENACE IN CUBA fort to agree on the rule change we Mr. SMATHERS. Madam President, I The threat In Cuba grows apace. Now we shall propose and to agree on the strategy wish to discuss for not more than ap- have been told by Fidel Castro and his we shall follow; and, in light of our ex- proximately 15 minutes the changing mentors in the Kremlin that a special port perience during the past year, I think situation In Cuba. Is to be built down there to service and sup- that at that time we shall be in a better At the outset I wish to state that, like ply a Soviet "fishing" fleet made up of as course, position than ever to proceed with the many others, I am greatly pleased with many as to trawlers. Department has Actually, of Indicated and fight to makesuch a change in the rule. the progress which has been made In as the State as pentagon sources have warned, the de- Mr. JAVITS. Yes. Does not the recent days, and particularly with the velopment certainly Involves much more Senator fromMinnesota agree that it is announcement made yesterday by the than a desire by the Russians to catch sea- fair to say that we are pledging a bi- Secretary General of the Organization food in waters they have never tried before. partisan effort to amend rule XXII, in of American States and by our Secre- To begin with, the following facts, among order to endeavor to reduce the power of tary of State. Dean Rusk, at the conclu- others, need to be kept in mind: (1) The the filibuster, and in order to give us a sion of the meeting of foreign ministers normal Soviet fishing grounds In this hemi-to now to the sph effective means of effecting cloture; representing the Latin American coun- N rth have Most up trawlers and we are pledging that we will under- tries. are semimtlttary In the sense that they are take that effort at the openingof the new I cannot help but think that the reso- elaborately equipped with radar and other Congress, which-according to the rul- lution which they have adopted demon- devices designed to spy upon such things Approved For Release 2004/06/23 : CIA-RDP65B00383R000200230009-8 1962 Approved For Release 2004/06/23 : CIA-RDP65B00383R000200230009-8 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE 21385 as our Polaris missile launchings. (3) A thus stands unanimously judged a satellite munism in Cuba. I think we need to go Cuban port for these vessels could easily ac- for a hostile foreign power-and the fact further. commodate Red submarines and Red tor- that Mexico, Brazil and Chile joined in this pedo boats. And (4) the ports thus could condemnation should have massive impact in that tion, I ly deal- intro- serve the Kremlin as a sort of naval base on hemisphere opinion. duced in the e Senate two resolutisolutions deal- that would be almost within shouting dis- The declaration also opens the way for the ing directly with Communist Cuba. tance of our shores and capable of threat- kind of collective response envisaged by the One resolution called for U.S. ening the Panama Canal, vital inter- Rio Pact, a response that would comport recognition of a Cuban revolutionary American shipping lanes and places like with international law and not violate a government-in-exile. The second urged Cape Canaveral. single treaty. While the United States did True, True, It may be argued that the United not obtain agreement on an airtight eco- the Ut Supter the estab- States-with its base at Guantanamo, its nomic embargo at this stage, a consensus alliance. of an inter-American military awesome arsenal of nuclear weapons, its is. forming that will surely lead to collective alliance. wide variety of missiles, its great fleet of sanctions. Meanwhile, bilateral agreement If adopted, I believe that these resolu- bombers, and _ its amphibious forces-has ought to be reached with Chile on ending tions would be positive and effective little or no reason to fear the building of yearly purchases of some $10 million worth steps leading toward the eradication of such a port, which could be wiped out as of Cuban sugar. easily and as swiftly as a fly can be swatted. Meanwhile, the proposed closing communism from are this hemisphere. But that is not the real point of-the matter. ports to foreign ships 'carrcin of U.B. I think they t sae logical next of our steps bThe real point is that the Kremlin, with Cuba could also have a palpable psy holog- which we should take in view of oeo- studied arrogance, has chosen to be deliber- ical effect In releasing North American frus- jective and the objective of the free peo ately provocative to an exceptionally intense tration. If European countries do not re- pie of this hemisphere in getting rid of and dangerous degree, It has done so by spond to requests for an embargo, the United Castro communism in Cuba. ostentatiously ridiculing the Monroe Doc- States can show the earnestness of its In- More important even than that, these trine, by using the insufferable Fidel Castro tent by unilateral action. Hopefully this recommendations would demonstrate to make captives of the betrayed Cuban peo- can demonstrate to the Europeans that that the American people have made up ple, and by planting itself, noisily and inso- Washington does not see the Cuban con- their minds on a vital issue-that we will lently, on a foothold in the Western Hemi- diet in terms of a feud with a flyweight no longer tolerate the existence of ag- sphere-a foothold from which it apparent- dictator but rather as a direct confrontation ly intends to launch a war of subversion and with Soviet power. gressive communism in any form in any indirect agression against the Americas. , Despite expectations to the contrary, the part of this hemisphere, and that we All this brings to mind these recent words informal foreign ministers meeting did yield have set about to do something realistic of President Kennedy: "If at any time the important results. Credit for this belongs to about it. Communist buildup in Cuba were to en- all who participated, but it is noteworthy Once that resolve is made, then the n any that the ommuni reflecte dayg* or*ith enethis lcountry willidoiwh t- g stions made on Sunday by Secretary Gen- viable par which I offered can y made a ever must be done." Unhappily, that time eral Jose Mora of the Organization of Amer-resolutions are resole pars aour national t anal policy. These seems to be rapidly approaching, if it is not ican States. Let It also be remarked that not a magic formula. already here. Qur friends and allies should Secretary of State Rusk showed sure po- They are not a roadmap to utopia. They respond accord#ngly. Some of them have litical instincts in helping to find the uni- are a means to an end-if we choose to suggested that only the United States needs fying denominator in an assembly of 20 take action against the Communists. to worry about the matter. They could not nations. There ' - be more wrong. The menace is global, and it e- o is, of hing. another al ay, to must- be .met head on by all men and na- Mr. SMATHERS. Madam President, sire-to do nothing. That is to say, to tions who still cherish freedom. before I discuss the resolutions which I sit and hope, and wish that Castro would Mr. SMATHERS. Madam Pproposed in the Senate, I wish to say fall and communism will disappear, and also aunanimous consent President, have that while we greatly appreciate what let it go at that. If that is our choice, also ask this point in tRECORD to an have has been stated at the foreign min- then communism will soon dominate, in I pri ted which appeared int in the his morn- isters' meeting and the demonstration my judgment, other sections of our Wett- ing's Washington Post, n this of a hardened attitude with respect to ern Hemisphere through subversion and One Voice," which Post, attention entitled to the Fidel Castro and Communist Cuba on Red-fomented internal upheaval, and great oih cl on of the the part of those countries, I am sure we- the threat to the peace and security of great statement h made by Western H the emisphere. also appreciate the fact that the admin- our neighbors to the south, and to us, atsThesn t being the no objection, the editorial istration recently announced that it will be increased 100 times over that was ordered to be printed in theeditoffal would be the policy of our Government which it is today. was : to tell the other nations of the world But assuming that action of some kind WITI3 ONE VOICE whose shipping has been carrying goods will be taken, and that it will be intelli- in an admirable show of unanimity, lq into the Communist-controlled country gent and reasoned, looking toward elimi- Latin Amadmir rle i have joined with of Cuba, and then has come to the nation of communism in Cuba, then I the United States in emphatically, clearly, United States to pick up additional goods strongly recommend consideration of my and bluntly condemning Sino-Soviet inter- to carry back home, that their ships will two suggestions embodied in the two vention in Cuba.. There are no weasel Words no longer, be welcome in our ports; that, resolutions. in the final communique released by the in some measure, ships that deal with With regard to the resolutions, I ask foreign ministers who have been informally Cuba and carry goods into Cuba, no mat- unanimous consent that Senators BUT- conferring in Washington. Messrs. Castro ter of what nature, will be looked upon LER, HOLLAND, HICKEY, LONG of Louisi- and Khrushchev have accomplished the un-- as outlawed ships as far as the United ana, SCOTT, THURMOND, TOWER, and likely miracle of bringing countries as diverse States is concerned. I think that will of as co- as Costa Rica and Brazil, Mexico and Uruguay YOUNG s North Dakota be named Co- Into into fundamental accord on the single most have a salutary effect on the free people sponsors of Senate Resolution 393, intro- question before the hemisphere. of this hemisphere. I think it will duced by me on September 18 resolving The communique explicitly condemns So- further restrict the activities of Fidel that it be declared to be the sense of the viet intervention in Cuba and states that Castro- and communism in Cuba. It will Senate that the U.S. Government should the threat this poses to the hemisphere re- put great pressure on him. I congratu- support the formation of an inter-Amer- quires ? the adoption of special measures, late the administration on the adoption ican military alliance joined by all na- bath individual pgei e." It hemis here governments to Intensify coun- of that particular program. I am happy tions in the Western Hemisphere who termeasures against Communist-Cuban sub- that I, along with others, recommended voluntarily wish to do so, take such ac- version. Significantly, the declaration ex- that such a course be adopted by, the tion as may be deemed necessary to drive tends sympathy to "the victims of the present administration 'about 2 or 3 weeks ago. communism out of this hemisphere. regime" and expresses the hope that the is- However, I think we all recognize that The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without land will soon return to a form of govern- we still need to take further action. So objection, it is so ordered. inter-American system. menu compatible with the principles of the far as I am concerned, I do not really Mr. SMATHERS. I also ask unani- This unanimous declaration makes it believe that, in the final analysis, merely mows consent that Senators ALLOTT, abundantly clear that the real issue in dis- the adoption of the resolution of the BUTLER, HOLLAND, HICKEY, LONG Of Pete is not Fidel Castro or the social dis- tem that foreign ministers of the Western Hemi- Louisiana, SCOTT, THURMOND, TOWER, prevails in Cuba today. It is in- sphere nations, standing by - itself, will and YOUNG of North Dakota be named as stead Soviet intervention. The Castro regime bring down Castro or bring down com- cosponsors of Senate Resolution 394, No. 182-21 Approved For Release 2004/06/23 : CIA-RDP65B00383R000200230009-8 Approved For Release 2004/06/23: CI DP 38000200230009-8pctobe~? 5 21386 CONGRESSIONAL RECUR R& DP ates during the every election or introduced by the sen a of the Senate N zi occuthe do nom stgovernment was occurri g in any government her change key- thlving ving that it is as the the United States should true government of Cuba, a Cuban prior to the invasion, since many ePoliisdh sons of International law, in any such revolutionary avowed purpose is oe lead thee Cuban mania by thee Germans, andntherexRu- two-nation ile time limit Is agreement, for the duration case people in the liberation and recovery of government was formed by other Polish ofutheanamotreaty-which c ewashthereaty iat Bay, their homeland. leaders. self holds in force unles it is cancelled The PRESIDING OFFICER. Without Although the United States did not by both parties. objection, it is so ordered. give formal diplomatic recognition to the That is parties. well established principle of Mr. SMATHERS? Let us first consid- free French movement during World international law. er the resolution calling for the estab- War II. in August of 1943 it did recognize practical matter, the upholding of our treaty rights i Guupholding lishment of a Cuban revolutionary gov- the French Committee of National Lib- As a ernment-in-exile. The resolution itself eration-Charles De Gaulle's move- of our t treaty frigh s in G not n the depends says: ment-as administering certain French Castro government's interpretation o Resolved, That It is hereby declared to be oversee territories. international law, but on the Marine the sense of the Senate that the United It is for international lawyers to ap- garrison at Guantanamo. States should recognize as the true govern- preciate these distinctions between for- Therefore, Madam President, I do not ernmentmeet of Cuba Cuba exile a whose Cuban revolutionary avowed wed purpose goy- is real recognition of an exile government feel that this argument, made against the purpose a government-in-exile on groups partial recognition given to States and the Cuban people in the liberation by such exile the as the basis that we might lose our rights ecoghniton United and recovery of their homeland. Further resolved, , That the United States De Gaulle'S which had neither con- in Guantanamo Bay, has any merit should recognize only a Cuban revolutionary tinuity nor a relationship with any previ- whatever. government-in-exile which agrees, prior to ous government In France. The impor- A third criticism of my resolution is recognition by the United states, that it tent thing is that the United States that recognition of a government-in- the Ce an pe o- showed its overwhelming desire to co- exile would end the current U.B. repre- will, liber Cuba, s upon the uthority of It ts power and atofre to the Cuban uD operate in an extraordinarily close man- sentation in Havana through the Swiss pie by the holding e elections. ner with the free French movementand Government, thereby preventing us from The first objection raised against this its leader who was ready to oppose a the protection, representation, and so resolution is that there is no precedent totalitarian conquest of his country. forth, of any U.S. citizens remaining in for the United States recognizing an ex- The term "government-in-exile" may Cuba, ile government other than one which acknowledgedly be misleading. What Is To this objection, let me say that what- was established and subsequently was needed is a Cuban juridical personality ever representation we have in Cuba to- forced to abandon its native territory. under international law; and it Is in this day, through the fine and cooperative May I say that this statement is In- sense that the resolution should be in- offices of the Swiss Government, in the correct. For instance, during World terpreted. last analysis is effective only to the ex- War I, a Czechoslovak National Council It should be noted that this proposed tent that Castro, or more precisely Khru- was formed for nhe purpose r waging a government or authority Is to be created shchev, wants it to be effective. What-dence war , then ind erely a part for the Austro- and recognized by the United States for ever cooperation we might seek-and Hungarian merely a pof thAustro- a single purpose, well defined in the reso- there are times when these can be justi- The Council was lution; to wit: for the purpose of leading fled, such as In the case of American craft The Coeme woo founded and the Pitts- the Cuban people in the war of national being shipwrecked off the coast of Cuba- burgh 1918, hie and the unify liberation in which they have been en- can only be obtained at the sufferance of burgh Pact of which served to unify gaged during the past 2 years against the Castro government. 1A 1- diverse exile elements. On September 3, 1918, the United States recognized the. Czechoslovak National Council as a de facto belligerent government. This meant that we recognized an organized opposition to the de jure government of the territory in question. I would like to stress that the United States took an important hand in work- ing toward the establishment of this gov- ernment and that Its founding agree- ments were signed in two American cities. I might also add that strong and effective diplomatic relations were estab- United States and h e lished between t this newly recognized government and made to the able -Senator from New York IMr. KEATING), when he has advo- loans S ix U i d - . . ve s that it actually rece in addition to U.S. recognition, the cated the recognition of a Cuban Gov- Czechoslovakia National Council was ernment in exile. There are those who ultimately recognized by Great Britain, say that would give to Fidel Castro au- France, and Italy. thority to abrogate the treaty which we A second example occurred during have entered into with the previous Cu- World War I when the Poles, under the ban Government for a long-term lease leadership of Paderewski, and with the at Guantanamo Bay. cooperation and aid of the Polish move- Any government holding itself out to , meet in Chicago, formed a Polish NA- be the representative of the state and various eof the exiled groups. tional Committee for the purpose of at- accepted as such by other states is bound ariousk, elements en Paderewski, and De Gaulle had taining a free Polish state, since 1863 to observe the rules of international law to struggle mightily for the unity of their under the occupation of Russia. On and to abide by the treaty obligations November 1, 1918, the Polish Army was of the state. The continuity and char- people, and It Is s do cult to s say just how by the recognized by the United States as a co- acter of the state as an "International Sinteracted with the unification belligerent, under the supreme political person" undergoes to change because of States authority of the Polish National Com- a change in the governing body which attempts. mittee. - represents it. This is a unanimous ac- The fact remains that the task of Again during World War II another cepted principle of international law. exiles to form a united political front Polish government-in-exile was recog- Were this not so, treaties would be abro- Is an extremely delicate anI thorny one, their Communist oppressors. ouch a" . To me plea tab ,,, r.c authority, it must be clearly understood, nizing a government-in-exile, be jeo- cannot and shall not pretend to govern pardizing the safety of Americans still in the Cuban people, once their liberation Cuba, I recall on several occasions the has been assured. It was for an identi- State Department has urged that Ameri- cal purpose that the United States recog- cans should leave the country and that nized and supported the Czechoslovak the U.S. Government could no longer National Council in 1918. guarantee their protection. A second argument raised against my ours would certainly be a hobbled, in- proposal is that recognition of a govern- effective, and distorted Cuban policy if ment-in-exile would give Castro an ex- we were to shape it to the needs of a cuse to abrogate the treaty concerning handful of Americans who have been the U.S. Naval Base at Guantanamo Bay. urged by our Government ttoo le v e Cuba, A final argument against a govern- ment-in-exile is that the Cuban refugees are too disorganized to form a govern- ment-in-exile worthy of recognition. In the previously stated examples of Czechoslovakia and Poland during World War I, Poland during World War II, and the Free French movement during World War II, there was a great deal of con- competition, and strife between troversy Approved For Release 2004/06/23 : CIA-RDP65B00383R000200230009-8 Approve which is disguised by the fact that all exile elements have a common purpose,. and therefore should have no insur- mountable difficulties in working togeth- er. If recognition were held out as a promise to the Cuban exiles, the condi- tion being that they form an effective, unified, viable organization, it would necessarily exert tremendous pressures in the direction of this desired unity. As it stands, there is now no real reason for unity. To further supplement that particu- lar argument, I point out that we should remember that at the time of the unfor- tunate Bay of Pigs invasion all the Cu- ban exile groups at that particular mo- ment, when they realized the battle had been joined, forgot their political dif- ferences and immediately joined up, tried to volunteer, and tried to get into the fray. Unfortunately, at that time there was not a sufficiently well-trained organization to receive them. At that point I should like to add that I have heard it said that one of the reasons. we should not go forward and exercise any kind of force in the case is that if we should do so, it might turn other Latin American nations against us. It is a significant fact that at the time of the invasion at the Bay of Pigs, while the outcome was still in doubt for some 48 hours-72 hours in- some areas, in the understanding of some coun- tries-not a single Latin American coun- try criticized the action which was taken. The first time any criticism_ came about was when. it became evident that the operation was a failure. Many of my Latin American friends have told me that when the invasion was in ?prog- ress and they thought the United States was really supporting it, they had the first good feeling that they had had about the United States and what we were willing to stand up and do than they had had in almost 2 years. Many of them said that they walked down the street feeling a great deal more proud of their association with the United States. However, unfortunately, when the operation began to collapse and we with- drew our support, those people began to slink back into their corners. It was then that the so-called liberal forces far to the left egged on by the Com- munists, began to get their governments to criticize the United States for the part which we had taken, because it then ap- peared that, the United States would not stand firmly in support of its friends. So the contention that we could not get the Cuban exiles or the Latin Ameri- can people to stand with us should we recognize a Cuban government-in-exile is not borne but by the facts, reason, or logic. Today the United States has opened its military service for the admission of Cuban refugees. Though the program has been in effect for only a short time, already somewhere between 2,500 and 3,000 young Cubans have joined. They come from every political climate. What they are interested in is action. I cannot help but believe that if the day should come when the United States should urge upon these foreign political groups that they get together-putting them in a room, if need be, and saying, "You must come out with some leader- ship or else we will pick someone"-we would hear no more argument among the divided political groups, particularly when they understand that the govern- ment which is recognized by the United States is only a government of liberation and will itself dissolve and not seek po- litical power after the liberation of Cuba has been accomplished. I think it is appropriate to bring up at this time the fact that one of the soundest and most influential organiza- -tions in matters of national security and foreign affairs is the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States. It is, I be- lieve, extremely significant that the Vet- erans of Foreign Wars at its recent na- tional convention, the latter part of August 1962, in-Minneapolis, Minn., un- animously adopted a resolution urging the recognition of governments-in-exile as a means of countering Communist aggression. This action by the VFW, which has a national membership of 1,300,000 over- sea combat veterans, reflects a firm knowledge and grasp of the issues in- volved in our continuing crises stemming from Communist aggression. Furthermore, this VFW action demon- strates a clear realization on the part of this great veterans organization that there are things that can and should be done in order to sustain the spirit of those who resist Communist aggression to take the initiative from the Kremlin strategists, and, as a result, enhance our ability as a nation to persevere through to victory against the Red tide of con- quest. Because of its importance and perti- nency to the current crisis, I wish to refer at this time to Resolution 227, call- ing for U.S. recognition of governments- in-exile and support thereof. Madam President, I ask unanimous consent to have printed in the RECORD the resolution of the Veterans of Foreign Wars. There being no objection, the resolu- tion was ordered to be printed in the RECORD, as follows: RESOLUTION 227-SUPPORTING FOREIGN GOV- ERNMENTAL LEADERS WHO OPPOSE COM- MUNISM Whereas the ruthless march of Communist aggression has overthrown various govern- ments which have resisted Communist en- croachment; and Whereas various governmental leaders have left their countries rather than submit to Communist oppression and serve as pup- pets of the Red rulers; and Whereas those who have refused to stay and serve the Communist cause of conquest have continued in foreign lands their reso- lute resistance to communism; and Whereas the vigorous anti-Communist actions of such leaders, who have refused to serve as Red puppets, have been a source of inspiration to freedom-loving peoples every- where, and a source of embarrassment to Communist aggressors; and Whereas the cause of freedom would be well served by recognizing the heroism and determination of such governmental leaders in exile; and Whereas recognition of such fighters against aggression would be both morally and strategically sound: Now, therefore, be it - Resolved by the 63d National Convention of the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States, That the United States officially rec- ognize such Red-displaced governments as governments-in-exile, and extend to such persons and governments moral, diplomatic, and material support. Mr. SMATTERS. At that particular point, with respect to the Cuban govern- ment-in-exile, I hear people who are experts on the question-and increas- ingly everyone is becoming an expert, which is only right, because we are giving the question more and more attention- say that what we really need is not a Cuban government in exile, but an in- digenous revolution from within Cuba. We are told that that is really the way to overthrow Fidel Castro. Madam President, I could not agree with that statement more. But I main- tain that the only possible way in which we shall ever bring about any kind of successful revolution in Cuba is through some outside help. I doubt if it ever could be successful without some out- side help. But we will not have any kind of pressure upon the Communists within Cuba and on Fidel Castro's gov- ernment until we are able to get some help to the people of Cuba. They must have guns, sustenance, and the equip- ment that is needed to put pressure on Fidel Castro. I submit that there is no other way to get the equipment to the people in Cuba except through a government-in-exile. I do not believe the United States wishes officially to say, "We are going to try to move in ourselves at this particular moment," for obviously that would bring us into open war between ourselves and Cuba. What I am about to say is not intended to be in disparagement of the CIA. I do not believe the CIA, in the manner in which it operates, is equipped to bring large numbers of weapons, ammunition and. equipment to the freedom fighters in Cuba. The only way that could be ac- complished would be through a Cuban government-in-exile, or whatever else we wish to call it. It should be a govern- ment that the United States can recog- nize as. we recognize the Government of Chiang Kai-shek. We give to Chiang Kai-shek upward of $500 million equip- ment every year to oppose the Red Com- munist government on the mainland of China. If we can do that, we can at least give some amount of help to the Cuban juridical government, whatever we wish to call it, and no matter where it is located. We can do It legally. Cubans out- side their country have ways and means of sending the equipment into Cuba. I am told that it is much more difficult to get the equipment away from the shores of the State of Florida. There is much more difficulty in getting by our own immigration offi- cials and sheriffs, who try to prevent Cuban patriots from going to Cuba with the kind of equipment they expect to use to overthrow Castro. It is more difficult to get it out of the State of Florida than it is to get it to the shores of Cuba. Approved For Release 2004/06/23 : CIA-RDP65B00383R000200230009-8 21388 Approved For Releasafii6l-Re8Rq938WI2230009-8 If we were to recognize a government- in-exile, that government could call on us for help, and we could openly and frankly give that government the help which it would require, and it could be used to bring pressure on Fidel Castro. My second resolution says "that it be the sense of the Senate that the U.S. Government supports the formation of an inter-American military alliance, joined by all nations in the hemisphere who voluntarily wish to do so, for the purpose of carrying out the principles previously enunciated." First, I think it would be well to point out that the resolution does not contem- plate a general alliance of the Organiza- tion of American States within the framework of the Organization of Amer- ican States, because such an alliance al- ready exists. Nor does time allow the United States entering into a protracted series of nego- tiations involving many nations In the hemisphere which have demonstrated less concern with the penetration of Communists Into the hemisphere than has the United States, and hence do not consider themselves endangered by the presence of an extra-continental power in the Caribbean. This resolution is pri- marily directed to those nations in the hemisphere who already consider them- selves, their governments, and their peo- ples harassed and menaced by aggressive Soviet military and subversive power, ex- ercised through the puppetecring of Castro Cuba. The resolution which I offered the Sen- ate does not propose to exclude any American state, nor to pressure nor en- tice those who presently remain indiffer- ent to the Soviets in the Americas. This resolution rests on the principle of self- protection recognized by international law and by the Charter of the United Nations. It contemplates a military pact or understanding which would properly function when the danger of aggression becomes imminent. It has been a traditional practice in international relations to consider mobi- lization of military forces by a neighbor- ing country as a preparation for aggres- sion, indeed as in itself an act of aggres- sion. And in such cases, the response can be no other, pending further devel- opments, but an equal mobilization on the part of the country or countries so menaced. Under the circumstances, and if the military buildup In Cuba con- tinues, it is but natural that the Carib- bean nations proceed without delay to mobilize their forces of land, sea, and air at least in the same proportion as Cuba has already done. That has already happened. Cuba has on Its shores many more arms and munitions and many more men than it could possibly need for the maintenance of law and order In Cuba. I do not know what is a defensive weapon or an offen- sive weapon. I have never seen a rifle or a mortar, or even a missile used for defense which could not be used for of- fense as well, by aiming it in a different direction. Certainly the time has come when the nations of the Caribbean should be looking to their own defenses and means of protecting themselves, if these weapons, sometimes called defen- sive weapons, which Cuba has in great abundance, are turned into offensive weapons. In other words, it Is time for these people to meet the challenge of arms with arms. Any other course on the part of the governments so affected would be a delinquency in duties to their own people. Such being the case, they not having a Soviet Union to support them and to supply them with large sums of money and large stores of equip- ment, they should join with other na- tions which are equally endangered; and It Is likewise logical and proper that they should join In so disposing their forces that the enemy may best be deterred or vanquished. That is the purpose of the resolution. I think It Is highly significant that the Finance Minister of Panama, Dr. Gilberto Arias, proposed In Miami on September 23, which was 5 days after I introduced my two resolutions in the Senate, a meeting of 10 Central Amer- lean and Caribbean Nations to establish a United Front Against Communism in Cuba. He went on to say that other Latin-American countries and the Unit- ed States should be called on to support measures to contain the Communist re- gime of Fidel Castro, and he further urged, according to the front-page arti- cle in the New York Times of September 24, "the formation of a NATO-type mili- tary alliance for defensive as well as of- fensive purposes, if such need arises." Dr. Arias said that- Although he could not at present com- mit the Government of Panama to the 10- nation meeting, he felt sure the proposal would have its approval as well as that of the other regimes concerned. He declared that the 10 countries- Panama, Guatemala, El Salvador, Hon- duras. Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Colombia, Venezuela, the Dominican Republic, and Haiti, were "in the path of Communist aggression and must now take a united and positive stand to protect their own security. We went on to say that- The recent intensification of the Com- munist take-over in Cuba once more con- firms that Moscow proposes to use that Caribbean Island for the propaghtion of com- munism throughout the Western Hemi- sphere. The threat of communism result- ing from the establishment of a Soviet base of operations in Cuba could seriously deter private Investment In the Caribbean area. The other day I read an article which apparently was based on facts obtained from the Department of Commerce, to the effect that in 1957 there was in- vested in that year In Central and South American countries from the United States $1,200 million. In 1961 private capital going into Central and South American countries dropped to $147 mil- lion. I am satisfied, as we all are, that the reason we have seen that drop Is be- cause of the threat of confiscation on the part of some of these countries and also the fear that a government of the type of Fidel Castro's government will take over in some Central and South American countries, and therefore peo- ple up here, who would normally make October 5 an investment there will not make it tin- der der the conditions which obtain now. I point out that the alliance which I have proposed is different from NATO or SEATO. NATO assumes that the inter- ests of all member countries will con- tinue the same and to the same degree. However, in the hemisphere, there are also regional responsibilities and com- mitments. Those nations in the Carib- bean which feel themselves threatened must be permitted to act in their own defense without the approval, but with the acquiescence, of the hemisphere as a whole. Such an arrangement would be a re- finement of the Rio Treaty, and perhaps should be formally written into it at a subsequent date. It would provide that those Caribbean nations that feel most threatened by Castro and the Soviets would meet to decide on what steps- diplomatic and military-they should take. Temporary integration of military forces, for example, could be undertaken to meet a specific threat. Furthermore, there would be no need for a forum of Caribbean nations, which would lend itself to debate, evasion, and delay, as no country would need to par- ticipate in any action unless it should feel itself threatened, and feel that it was desirable for it to participate. However, some collective defense mechanism must be formed. The pres- ence, legally sanctioned, of other Latin American troops will be extremely im- portant when the time comes to force out communism in Cuba. There is also the point to be made of international legality in the preparation of a force to take the island. Castro claims today we are training an invasion army. If we recognized an exile government and got open commitments from Caribbean allies, we could boast of the fact that we were taking action to meet a regional threat. Regarding my second resolutions, I have seen and heard much interesting and some illuminating comment on the proposal. But I think none of these is more pertinent than the urgent recommenda- tion by Panama, which I cited earlier, calling for the formation of a NATO- type organization, I have since heard that in addition to the 10 nations cited by the Panaman- ian spokesman as being most directly threatened by Soviet Cuba and, there- fore, most interested in such an alliance, Peru might also give support to. this type of endeavor. Of all the commen- tary that I have heard, none is more valid or more pointed than the fact that the nations most endangered are seri- ously considering joining themselves in a mutual security alliance. In the Washington Post of September 19, there appeared an article objecting to my resolution and quoting certain "U.S. civilian and military officials" as objecting to the plan, although it did not give any specific names. I only bring up this point because in discussing my proposal with various, and obviously not the same, U.S. military and civilian officials, I found that they held a different view than that expressed Approved For Release 2004/06/23 : CIA-RDP65B00383R000200230009-8 Approved For Release 2004/06/23 : CIA-RDP65B00383R000200230009-8 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -SENATE 21389 in the article. The military and civil- ian officials with whom I discussed the alliance, I might add, were all highly qualified in their respective fields as well as being experienced and knowledgable in Latin American affairs. Let me briefly answer some of the ob- jections which have been made to the alliance which I have proposed.. First, it has been said that such an organization would circumscribe our country's freedom of action. This is not true. No such special alliance in the past has limited- anybody's country's ac- tion, and if there were any doubt about this point, it could be made clear in the treaty itself that nothing in the treaty would hinder the taking of unilateral action by any of its signatories when anyone of them felt that its security was endangered, and that the alliance was not acting fast enough. If this kind of alliance would inhibit action, you would find that those who take the so-called "soft line on Cuba," would favor it, while those who take the so-called "hard line on Cuba" would be opposed to it. Actually, it is for this very reason-that the alliance might hasten appropriate military action- that we find the so-called soft-liners against it. I am proud that for 3'/z years I have either been accused of, or praised for, being a "hard-liner on Castro's Cuba." Secondly, it has been objected that such an alliance as I propose is not needed because there are no large enemy land forces in Cuba or Latin America. Such an objection is irrelevant. One of the basic designs of such an alliance would be not with respect to land, sea, or air forces, but to the threat of internal subversion. It is to meet just this kind of subver- sion that it is essential that we secure the assistance of other Latin American pow- ers so that we will not be required to use American soldiers in combat. against the nationals of a once friendly country. Third, the Washington Post article contends that the Rio Treaty calls for "joint military action in the event of military aggression committed against an OAS member," and thus, there is no need for a new alliance. However, "the fact is that the OAS is a regional organization with the United Nations as its parent body. Hence, col- lective military action cannot be com- mitted through OAS, because such a measure would have to be ratified by the Security Council of the United Nations, and there, of course, it would be blocked by the inevitable Soviet veto. Finally, the purposes of an alliance such as I propose would be political as well as military. I do not think there has been a single NATO commander who has maintained that his military force. was alone adequate to prevent Soviet aggres- sion. It has rather been the political unity which this force represented which has been important-a political unity which has now led on to an economic unity- the Common Market, in Europe, with the promise of further strengthening and formalizing the political ties of the mem- ber nations. There has been much talk about a Cen- tral American common market. Actu- ally, our Government has formally ad- vocated the establishment of a Central American common market. Also, there has been considerable talk about a subsequently to-be-formed Western Hemisphere common market. I think all such common markets are within the realm of possibility within our lifetime; and it might well be that such a military alliance as is proposed could, as was in the case in Europe, lead to similar economic and political gains, since the purpose of the alliance, mili- tary though it may be, must be political in nature if it is to combat Soviet egres- sion in the new world. Mr. KEATING. Madam President, will the Senator from Florida yield? Mr. SMATHERS. I am glad to yield to the Senator from New York, who for many years has demonstrated a realistic interest in and understanding of the problem. Mr. KEATING. I am grateful to the Senator from Florida. I shall detain the Senate but a moment. The purpose of my intrusion is to congratulate the Senator from Florida on a very thought- ful and clear analysis of his views con- cerning what further action should be taken, I am entirely in accord with his views that the informal meeting of the minis- ters of the OAS is not sufficient. I am gratified by the progress which I feel is now, rather belatedly, being taken. I congratulate Secretary Rusk on the achievements to date. I shall discuss this subject more fully on Monday or Tuesday-probably Monday. I shall not go into it now. I wish to emphasize one thing in par- ticular which the Senator from Florida said. My information is exactly the same as the Senator's. At the time of the unfortunate Bay of Pigs episode, there was, as the Senator said, no crit- icism of the United States until the in- vasion failed. If we had supported it and it had succeeded, it is my judgment, based upon what I consider to be good information, that the countries which then began to criticize us would have supported us. They would have sup- ported any forceful action. They might for local political purposes have had some criticism to voice; but they would in effect have supported our leadership. Moreover, they would have respected us for it. The Senator from Florida has had many more dealings with Latin American nations than I have had, but I am sure he agrees that they desire to respect the United States, and that respect is the most important quality which we can inculcate in the Latin American coun- tries, as in any other nation, friend or foe. I wish to ask the Senator from Florida about one phase of his remarks. 'I as- sume that this subject has been re- searched by the Senator. It is not clear" to me that the OAS must have its action ratified by the United Nations in order to be effective. In other words, the Senator's view is that the OAS of its own initiative cannot take any concerted ac- tion unless it has been approved by the United Nations. Mr. SMATHERS. The Senator from New York has asked if research has been done on this subject. It has. The finest Cuban lawyers now in exile-and they comprise most of the Cuban bar-and who live in my State, have taken it upon themselves to research the subject and present me with briefs. They came to the inescapable conclusion that of8- cially they cannot act in a military fash= ion without first having the approval of the United Nations. That is what makes valid our other military alliance. That is why we became a party to NATO. We can thereby have our own organization and decide on our own volition when we wish to move. Mr. KEATING. Is it the Senator's view that OAS is in a different category from NATO? Mr. SMATHERS. Yes. NATO is merely a voluntary organization entered into by the countries of western Europe and the United States. It is military in its purpose. It is designed to stop Com- munist aggression, and if need be by fighting Communist aggression. That is its purpose. The United Nations was. established for many other reasons, as was OAS. OAS is generally a political-economic- cultural group having certain military rights; but those military rights must be cleared through the United Nations. I regret to say that in my comments I did not give the exact section of the OAS charter which makes reference to the fact that these types of military action must be' referred to the Security Council of the United Nations. However, I shall supply the Senator from New York with that information. Mr. KEATING. I should like to have it. My thought was that all that was necesary was to notify the Security Council of the activities which had been undertaken. If, of course, the Security Council could agree on another course of action, that could supersede OAS moves, but the Security Council is not likely to agree on such a point. Mr. SMAT 3ERS. That was also my impression, as the Senator will remem- ber. The Senator from New York and I on several occasions have talked about this subject and the need for doing some- thing about it. It was a speech I had made, urging the OAS to do something, which caused the Cuban lawyers to submit to me the. briefs which they had prepared. They said, in effect, "You will never be able to get the OAS to do anything, because there are certain large countries that will not do anything anyway,, including countries such as Brazil and Mexico." That was when I shifted from the idea that we ought to apply pressure to the OAS to take action. I said the time had come when another organization should be established, similar to NATO, one which would be in- dependent of the United Nations and could operate when its members decided that the time had come to operate in a military fashion. Mr. KEATING. That information comes to me as somewhat of a surprise, Approved For Release 2004/06/23 : CIA-RDP65B00383R000200230009-8 21390 Approved For Release 2004/06/23 : CIA-RDP65B00383R000200230009-8 . CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - SENATE October 5 as it relates to International law. I do not want to end the colloquy on the thought that there is any difference of opinion between the Senator from Florida and myself about the need for additional forceful action in this crisis. I should like to have him cite the reference which he has made and also should like to see the brief. Mr. SMATHERS. I shall supply that information to the Senator. Mr. KEATING. Again, I commend the Senator for a highly thoughtful and fine address. Mr. SMATHERS. I thank the Senator from New York for his kind remarks. Mr. HUMPHREY. Madam President, I shall take a moment to say a word about the comments of the Senator from New York with respect to the views of the Senator from Florida. I was not able to hear all of the Sen- ator's address; but judging from what I have heard and also from my consulta- tions with the Senator from Florida, I know of his deep concern over the situa- tion in Cuba, in the Caribbean, and throughout Latin America. I, too, wish to say that the need for specific, definite, understandable action certainly exists. Such action is long overdue. I am pleased to see that the recent Con- ference of Foreign Ministers produced at least a more clearcut statement of policy on the part of all the participating coun- tries represented by them, and I am particularly pleased with the statement made by our Secretary of State in regard to shipping to Cuba. This subject has been discussed at some length In Congress. I believe these discussions are really helpful ; I believe they help point out the possible alterna- tives to be followed by a responsible government. Many times there is criticism of pro- posals or statements in regard to one situation or another. Certainly there have been very helpful discussions in regard to what should be done about Cuba and about subversion and possible aggression by Castro's communism, based in Cuba. I believe those discus- sions have given the State Department, the National Security Council, and the President a better insight Into the pos- sible alternatives, and have given op- portunity for freer discussion of their possible effects. It is true that the Senate does not have responsibility for the Nation's for- eign policy; but the Senate does con- tribute to it. The Senate does not ex- ecute or administer it, but In a way the Senate helps to design it. It is my view that although some of us may be somewhat scarred or cut up a little, as is said in the political par- lance, because we offer suggestions, yet from the trials by fire In debate in the legislative body, good suggestions can- and do- come forth. Mr. SMATHERS. I completely agree with the able Senator from Minnesota. He has made many valuable contribu- tions by means of the suggestions be has made-as has-the-Senator from New York [Mr. KEArnvcl, and in some in- stances I have seen some of the things I have discussed subsequently become the national policy. I like to think that the policies are partly the result of the sug- gestions we make. I believe it is desir- able, and is a much healthier situation, to have suggestions made by Members of Congress in the discussion of foreign pol- icy-even though, as the Senator has said, we do not have the responsibility for the foreign policy. However, I be- lieve it is very helpful to have our views reach the Secretary of State, the Presi- dent, and his assistants. I would shudder if I thought the Pres- ident and the Secretary of State could obtain Information only from persons who have long been In the State Depart- ment. In this connection, I do not criti- cize any particular person; but I have long deplored the fact that when a new President comes into office, of the ap- proximately 19,600 employees in the State Department, the new President- regardless of whether the President be Mr. Truman, Mr. Eisenhower, Mr. Ken- nedy, or any other-can appoint fewer than 200 persons in the State Depart- ment. Consequently, most of the ad- ministrative officials in the State Depart- ment continue year after year, with the result that some of them strongly de- fend papers they prepared 10 years be- fore. Therefore, if the President and the Secretary of State obtained their Infor- mation only from the State Department, I think the country would be in really bad state. So I agree that these discussions are most helpful. We know the foreign pol- icy is not our responsibility, In the final analysis; but I agree that our sugges- tions can be helpful and constructive. Mr. HUMPHREY. Several efforts have been made to delineate the role of the legislative body In connection with the formulation of foreign policy. Dr. Charles Hyneman, whom I knew first when I was attending Louisiana State University, is one of the foremost ex- perts in the Nation in regard to the role of Congress in the formulation of for- eign policy. I mention this because if it is said that the foreign policy is the responsibility of the executive-although it is indeed his responsibility In terms of administration and execution-yet ultimately a successful foreign policy must have public support; and In this country that Is not obtained merely by announcing the policy and stating, "This is It." Instead, support for it is obtained by discussing it, arguing about it, and putting it together-sometimes even in a disorderly manner-as the result of discussions, both public and private. In that connection, the Senator from Florida has done very well, indeed. I suppose that at times we may be in dis- agreement-but only in degree, not on the fundamentals, Certainly the Sena- tor from Florida has made important contributions. As to the discussion In regard to the OAS, I hope the Senator from Florida is mistaken in the interpretation that the OAS could take action without the con- currence of the United Nations, I am not in a position to make a definitive statement about that matter; however, I know that at the recent conference at Punta Del Este, provision was made for a group within the OAS to take collec- tive action for Its common defense. One of the things I have discussed with various Senators, including the Senator from Florida, is the possibility of a collective-action program with the Caribbean nations in the immediate vi- cinity of Cuba. I was delighted to note, the other day, that the President of Costa Rica-and, earlier, also one of the officials of Panama-suggested that there should be a kind of alliance or collective-security pact in the Caribbean area. I believe that should be done. Furthermore, I believe it should be more than a political pact; I think it should have some military overtones. As my colleagues know, the other day I was very much surprised to hear a responsible official of our Government say that we are now working on a pro- gram, on a cooperative basis, between our country and Latin American coun- tries, for political propaganda. At that point I "blew my stack," and almost "went into orbit," as we say, because I could not imagine that our country would wait from 1958 to 1962 to put into effect a counterpropaganda program. Certainly we should long ago have been doing that-using pamphlets and jour- nalists and radio and television commen- tators-in other words, to make use of counterpropaganda, call It what one will. We cannot do that alone. We must do it in cooperation with our Latin Ameri- can brothers and neighbors. In fact, they should be out in front, with our country backstopping. For example, I do not think we have done nearly enough to encourage the freedom fighters inside Cuba. I believe there is a way to help the freedom fighters inside Cuba; and if commentators sympathetic to such at- tempts-such as Howard K. Smith and others-have reason to point out the in- adequacy of what is being done, it seems to me to be clear that more should be done, and we should be able to do it. These suggestions, regardless of their merits-certainly are-worthy of consider- ation by the Government; and the Sena- tor from Florida [Mr. SMATHERS] has been in the forefront in that connection, I compliment him for It. Mr. SMATHERS. I thank the Senator from Minnesota for his generous refer- ences to me. OFFICIAL TRAVEL-USE OF AMERI- CAN FLAG AIRLINES Mr. SMATHERS. 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