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1956 Approved &!Gftjapj[0 R aK6 RD? T j45R 100200006-2 11349 Marquette L. Neal, Clarksville. Seward M. Dawes, Clinton. OREGON Clover A. Stiles, Floyd. Irwin H. Dent, Davenport. Marie E. Marshall, Cannon Beach. Clarence Starkweather, Jr., Greene. Wendell C. Wilber, Delanson. Milton H. Binge, Dundee. Helen I. Stanger, Hopkinton. Joseph R. Iadarola, Elmsford. Audrey S. Phillips, Island City. Lyle E. Van Scyoc, Tabor. Ralph L. Marshall, Freeport. Stella G. Lowe, Rickreall. Reggie J. Abbondandelo, Greenvale. KANSAS Albert A. Clark, Hall. PENNSYLVANIA Olive M. Rudd, Belpre. Harry C. Cotier, Hicksville. James W. Daubert, Allentown. Lloyd E. Cope, Netawaka. Burdette W. Playfoot, Horseheads. PUERTO RICO KENTUCKY Oliver K. Palm, Jamestown. Jose Alberto Poventud, Ponce. Barber L. Shelton, Nortonville. Alice M. Bird, Lake Peekskill. SOUTH CAROLINA Ronald M. MacKenzie, Lake Placid. LOUISIANA Ruth P. Benedict, Lewis. John B. Blanton, Nichols. Nola B. Romero, Avery Island. William A. Maillet, Lockport. Bennett C. Bedenbaugh, Prosperity. Howell H. Smith, Bossier City. James C. Browne, Mahopac. TENNESSEE MAINE John S. Volpe, Manchester. Albert M. Daniel, New Market. Wesley A. Sawyer. Anson. Willis Clayton Farnham, Manlius. TEXAS Biddeford. Laverriere Willie H Richard G. Gavette, Margaretville. , . James E. Reilly, Massapequa Park. Ponder A. Pickett, Big Wells. MASSACHUSETTS Kathryn D. Probert, New Hampton. Joe C. Cobb, Lewisville. John L. Brigham, Boylston Center. Howard A. Searle, Newfane. Gilbert R. Thayer, Port Lavaca. John R. Fisher, West Dennis. Richard Charles Rutland, Olcott. UTAH MINNESOTA George Conrad Sauer, Port Jervis. J. Stanford Stahell, Enterprise. Carl G. Bergstrom, Cokato. Edna C. Yaple, Rock Hill. Joseph Huber, Rockville Centre. VIRGINIA Wesley P. Rathvon, Deerwood. Wesley H. Kline, Sanborn. Burton R. Floyd, Buena Vista. Dexter N. Femling, Dent. Celia B. Ferguson, Schuyler Lake. Virgie C. Rawls, Burkeville. Leroy F. Lingwall, Emily. Reginald T. Stevenson, Sea Cliff. Thomas N. Langhorne, Evington. Charles A. Lukens. Hadley. John A. Fiero, Shortsville. Frank J. Horlander, Jr., Meherrin. Lester H. Egerstrom, Murdock. Roy E. Hodges, Spencer. Virginia M. Deane, New Canton. William R. Marx, Preston. Wilbert J. Regnet, Swormville. WASHINGTON Alvord J. Dammann, Sanborn. Joseph F. Ambrose, Thornwood. Harold C. Olson, Two Harbors. Beatrice V. Conway, Warners. Glenn R. Fredericksen, Cashmere. MISSISSIPPI William H. Olcott, Wurtsboro. Fred S. Hughes, Clarkston. Arlow R. Evers, Electric City. Billy M. McEachern. Ruleville. NORTH DAKOTA Dwight L. Cruea, Everson. William B. Askew, Sardis. Pearl E. Taylor, Alexander. Dean W. Larimore, Granger. NEBRASKA Ivan O. Wick, Brocket. Jack Doty, Greenacres. John H. Rethwisch, Carroll. 01110 Henry Grosso, Harper. Vernon A. Lamb, Hubbell. Carlton W. Strosnider, Ansonia. Clifford E. Swenson, Harrington. Ivan Jack Gemmell, Ogallala. Gertrude G. Nottke, Berlin Heights. Charley T. Garrison, Hoquiam. Alvin O. Jones, Sutherland. Oscar J. Pierce, Coolville. John H. Bonus, Klickitat. NEVADA Raymond C. Harris, Eaton. Jack A. Middle, Mabton. Alice L. Green, Medina. Bernice K. Morse, Tungsten. Harold E. Mills, Franklin. Kenneth E. Roberts, Nooksack. John D. Ingram, New Milford. Robert F. Whitten Ocean Park. NEW YORK Ralph G. Bostwick, North Benton. , Ruby .Irene Paulson, Outlook. Mildred H. Merrell, Afton. John William Evans, Orville. Marion E. Keeney, Pacific Beach. Bruce E. Champlin, Andes. Leo F. Davis, Payne. Wesley Wayne Gibbs, Woodinvilloc Reginald A. Brick, Angola. Robert L. Murdock Ridgeway. WISCONSIN Maurice W. Keating, Beacon. Patrick J. Foley, Bethpage. , Clarence B. Stahl, St. Henry. Lyle A. Gallenbeck, Burnett. Beatrice L. Stevens, Bridgewater. Edgar W. Stevanus, Sugarcreek. James E. Davidson, Markesan. Jeanette Y. Short, Cloverdale. LeRoy A. Wright, West Alexandria. Henry W. Luebke, Winneconne. Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 House of Representatives THURSDAY, JULY 12, 1956 The House met at 11 o'clock a. m. The Chaplain, Rev. Bernard Braskamp, D. D., offered the following prayer: God of all grace and goodness, grant that in these dark and doubtful days we may turn to Thee for light and leading and discover the power and possibilities of prayer. Inspire us with a daring faith and an unconquerable hope and may we see our duties clearly and discharge them with- out fear or favor. May we never be merely content with the deductions and conclusions of our minds but may we be blessed with those spiritual revelations and intuitions which will make us feel instinctively that we are obeying and doing Thy will. Help us for our joy and strength to strive more earnestly to bring the power of lofty ideals to bear on our everyday life and daily give witness that we belong to an eternal fellowship. Hear us in the name of the Christ who is our eternal contemporary. Amen. THE JOURNAL The Journal of the proceedings of yes- terday was read and approved. MESSAGE FROM THE SENATE A message from the Senate. by Mr, Carrell, one of its clerks, announced that the Senate had passed without amendment bills of the House of the fol- lowing titles: H. R. 9774. An net to provide for the con- veyance of certain lands of the United States to the Board of Commissioners of Volusla County, Fla.; H. R. 10075. An act to provide for the con- veyance of certain real property of the United States to the town of Bald Knob. Ark.; and 11. R. 10479. An act to authorize the Ad- ministrator of General Services to convey certain land to the county of Galveston, Tex. The message also announced that the Senate had passed, with amendments in which the concurrence of the House is requested, bills of the House of the fol- lowing titles: H. R. 8817. An act to provide for the con- veyance of certain property of the United States to the city of Corbin, Ky.; and TI. R. 9842. An act to authorize the Post- master General to hold and detain mail for temporary periods In certain cases. The message also announced that the Senate had passed bills of the following titles, in which the concurrence of the House is requested: 5.147. An act to require that interns- tional agreements other than treaties, here- after entered Into by the United States, be transmitted to the Senate within 60 days after the execution thereof; and 5.3958. An act to amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, as amended. The message also announced that the Senate agrees tc the amendments of the House to a bill of the Senate of the fol- lowing title: S. 47. An act for the relief of Guiseppe Agosta. The message also announced that the Senate disagreed to the amendment of the House to the bill (S. 2182) entitled "An act for the relief of the city of Elkins, W. Va.," requests a conference with the House in the disagreeing votes of the two Houses thereon, and appoints Mr. DANIEL, Mr. O'MAHONEY. and Mr. DIRxsEN to be the conferees on the part of the Senate. The message also announced that the Senate insists upon its amendment to the bill (H. R. 3957) entitled "An act for the relief cf Pauline H. Corbett," disagreed to by the House; agrees to the conference asked by the House on the disagreeing votes of the two Houses thereon, and appoints Mr. KEFAUVER, Mr. JOHNSTON of South Carolina, and Mr. LANCER to be the conferees on the part of the Senate. The message also announced that the Senate insists rpon its amendment to the bill (H. R. 9593) entitled "An act to simplify accounting, facilitate the pay- ment of obligations, and for other pur- poses," disagrees: to by the House; agrees to the conference asked by the House on the disagreeing votes of the two Huuses thereon, and appoints Mr. KEN- NEDY, Mr. WOFFORD, and Mr. CoTToN to be the conferees on the part of the Senate. PERSONAL ANNOUNCEMENT Mr. MADDEN. Mr. Speaker, on yes- terday I was on the floor of the House all afternoon- Shortly before rollcall No. 98 on the mutual security appropria- tion bill, I was called back to my office to interview some constituents. Shortly thereafter the bars rang for rollcall No. 98. I waited for the second bells to ring, but they failed to ring. As a conse- quence I got here on the floor of the House just a minute or so late. Had the second bells runi. I would have been able to vote on rollcall No. 98: therefore I ask unanimous consent that the permanent RECORD record me as voting "aye." The SPEAKER. It is not possible to do that. as it is in violation of the rules of the House. Th'? gentleman from In- diana may state how he would have voted had he been here. Mr. MADDEN. I made such a state- ment In the RECORD yesterday, Mr. Speaker. COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE Mr. THOMPSON of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the Committee on Agriculture may sit during general debate today. The SPEAKER.. Without objection, it is so ordered. There was no objection. DELETION FROM RECORD Mr. LANHAM. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to strike from the permanent RECORD my reference to the distinguished minority leader on page 11192 and 11193 in yesterday's RECORD. The SPEAKER. Without objection, the permanent RECORD will be so cor- rected. There was no objection. SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION, 1957 Mr. SMITH of Virginia. Mr. Speaker, I call up House Resolution 584 and ask for its immediate consideration. The Clerk read the resolution, as fol- lows: Resolved, That during the consideration of the bill (H. R. 12138) making supple- mental appropriations for the fiscal year end- ing June 30, 1957, and for other purposes, all points of order against the bill are hereby waived. Mr. SMITH of Virginia. Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 minutes to the gentleman from Ohio IMr. BROWN]. I now yield myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Speaker, this resolution waives points of order on the bill that is about to be called up, which is the supple- mental appropriations bill. The reason for the rule is that there are some minor legislative provisions in the bill itself, but the main reason for this rule is that the authorization bill for the military construction, while it has passed the House and I believe passed the Senate, has not as yet, as far as I know, become law. While it will be enacted into law in the next day or so, that is the main reason for this rule waiving points of order. The items for military construc- tion have not as yet been authorized. Mr. GROSS. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. SMITH of Virginia. I yield. Mr. GROSS. That is the main rea- son for asking for this rule waiving points of order, because some law has not yet been enacted? Mr. SMITH of Virginia. Not some law, but the , law authorizing military construction projects for this year. Mr. GROSS. Would the gentleman say there is no legislation in this bill in connection with the Jones Point bridge? Mr. SMITH of Virginia. Not to my knowledge. There is no legislation on that matter. If the gentleman will look Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 July 12, 1956 Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE at the report on the bill, he will find listed there the legislative provisions concerning which a waiver is sought. That does not apply to the Jones Point bridge. Mr. McCORMACK. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. SMITH of Virginia. I yield. Mr. McCORMACK. I desire to an- nounce that the next order of business after the disposition of the supplemental appropriations bill will be the suspension on the veterans ,bill, for which permis- sion was obtained yesterday. I ask unanimous consent, Mr. Speak- er, that the Committee on Foreign Af- fairs may have permission to sit today and tomorrow during general debate. The SPEAKER. Is there objection? There was no objection. (Mr. BROWN of Ohio asked and was granted permission to revise and extend his remarks.) Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may use. As the gentleman from Virginia [Mr. SMITH] has so ably explained, this reso- lution makes in order the consideration of H. R. 12138 with waiver of points of order on the bill. As a member of the Rules Committee, I voted for this rule, although I have a great interest in one certain provision in this bill, as do the other Members from Ohio, and espe- cially Representative SCHENCK, of Ohio. On page 7 of this bill is a provision for transferring the Air Research and' De= velopment Command of the Air Force to Andrews Field. The gentleman from Ohio CMr. SCHENCK] has in his district a great portion of the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, and I have the balance of that installation in my own district. Under the provisions of this bill, on page 7, the Secretary of the Air-Force would be authorized to expend some $6 million for the moving of the Air Research and Development Command headquarters from Baltimore to Andrews Air Force Base in the District of Columbia, where we already have an overcrowded condi- tion. All in spite of the fact we are already spending hundreds of millions of dollars to move Federal institutions and installations out of this congested area in and near the District of Colum- bia because of dangers involved. The work of air research and develop. ment belongs primarily somewhere close to the Air Materiel Command at Dayton, Ohio, where most of the Nation's war- plane experimentation goes on. The location of the Air Research and Devel- opment Command is very important. Prior to 1951, when the Air Force first established an Air Research and Devel- opment Command, the Air Materiel Command at Dayton embraced all pro- duction, supply, maintenance, and en- gineering functions at Dayton, Ohio. In order to create the Research and Devel- opment Command the engineering func- tions of,the Air Materiel Command were separated therefrom, and most of the personnel to man this new function came from the Air Materiel Command itself, Since the Air Force had included this research function as a part of the Air Materiel Command for several years be- fore a program of separate research activity was created, it must be obvious to all that this function still has a very close relationship to the Air Materiel Command itself, and should be a part thereof if it should ever cease to exist as a separate command. Some time ago the Armed Services Committee of the House investigated this whole matter as to where the Air Re- search and Development Command should be located very fully and unani- mously recommended to the House, and to the Air Force, that the Research and Development Command should be lo- cated near the Air Materiel Command in Dayton, where the two could work to- gether as in the past. The House itself once voted that the Air Research and Development installa- tion should be moved to Dayton. Then, later, the Senate in the closing days or hours of the last session amended that particular section of the bill to provide that the Secretary of the Air Force should decide where such research and development work should be done, and the House rather reluctantly adopted that Senate amendment. I note the subcommittee of the Ap- propriations Committee which reported this bill said in its report: The committee has some doubt that the immediate vicinity of the Nation's Capital is the best location for command headquar- ters of this type- Referring, of course, to Air Research and Development Command. Further the committee said: This committee would have preferred that another location had been selected. Let me point out to you, and I give it to you upon my word as a Member of this House, that the experienced officers and men in this research work in the Air Force, who investigated this whole mat- ter, recommended that the Air Research and Development Command be transfer- red back to Dayton, Ohio, where for many years it operated as part of the Air Materiel Command, where the two com- mands could again work together, and where, if peace should come or the world situation grow less tense, the two could again be incorporated into one endeavor. And let me tell you of some of the steps and some of the plans that are now un- derway, or are being worked out, if this House approves the removal of the Air Research and Development Command to Andrews Air Base. Mr. Speaker, first, the present plans envision the following steps: Step 1: The transfer of a majority of the present training command subactivi- ties from Randolph to Waco. This will result in a consolidation of flight train- ing and technical training operations at one headquarters at Waco with a result- ing reduction of some 100, or more, peo- ple. Step 2: Involves the transfer of the headquarters of the training command from Scott Field to Randolph Field. Step 3: This involves the movement of the MATS headquarters from An- drews Field to Scott Field. In this case, the movement of some 700 training head- quarters people out of Scott will be re- placed by moving in around 1,200 people in the MATS headquarters. 11351 Step 4: ARDC headquarters will be moved from the present location at Bal- timore to take over the present MATS headquarters at Andrews. These moves will require the expenditure of mainte- nance and operating funds of at least $3 million and more possibly in the area of $4 million. Second. Included in this plan is the creation of a new and additional head- quarters building for some $6 million for ARDC at Andrews. Initially, ARDC would move at some point after the third quarter of fiscal year 1957 into the pres- ent MATS headquarters building when it was vacated by MATS for the move to Scott. Perhaps 21/2 years later, ARDC would move into the new headquarters and the present MATS headquarters would then be available for the move of people out of the Pentagon and out of the temporary buildings in the Washing- ton area. Third. The proposal which is really the one under consideration as step 1 involves the new headquarters for ARDC retaining the MATS headquarters at Andrews. Fourth. The net effect of this series of proposals is the increase in the number of organizations in the Washington area and many people believe this should be undesirable both from a vulnerability standpoint and from the overconcentra- tion of Government personnel in this area. In the studied opinion of many people a more desirable course of action appears to be the construction of a new headquarters for ARDC at Dayton, Ohio, and the movement of the headquarters, when it is moved, from Baltimore to Day- ton. This consolidation of ARDC on the same base with its major operating activ- ity should result in both increased effi- ciency of operation and a total reduction of many people, on the order of several hundred. Fifth. The proposed move of ARDC headquarters to Andrews, along with the other proposed moves involves the max- imum expenditure, and maximum dis- ruption in the Washington area. Mr. Speaker, may I also point out in connection with the proposed location of ARDC headquarters: First. The separation of the engineer- ing function-ARDC-from the produc- tion, supply, and maintenance functions of AMC in 1951 duplicated a somewhat similar separation of functions during World War II, where supply and mainte- nance functions were separated from production and engineering. In each case, the reason was to reduce the size of the job that any one person or head- quarters would be responsible for-in both supervisory and operational func- tions. When the separation was made in World War II, the resultant problems were solved somewhat more expeditious- ly because the two headquarters, which of necessity required a great deal of lat- eral coordination, were only 3 miles apart. Second. The major problem caused by the creation of the ARDC headquarters at Baltimore was the fact that the close teamwork and working relationships necessary, particularly at the operating level, were made?di#ficult. In the engi- Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 11352 Approved For Relf ].g ff AFli T00J18SE 100200006-2 U July 12 veering change proposal area alone, it nel of the Air Staff are inclined to enter fore three congressional committees, in was difficult enough under a single or- into the operating functions of the sep- which some of the foregoing facts and ganization to get timely and expeditious arate command, The management of many other detailed and related matters action. With the ARDC headquarters the separate command are inclined to were brought to the attention of the removed to Baltimore, it was my per- endeavor to take over part of the opera- congressional committees, with the sonal experience that serious delays were Lions of the Air Staff. encountered which might have been House ati committees fuay supporting the Eighth. From standpoint of long- location of headquarters ARDC at avoided in getting changes instituted in range economy, , it is usually desirable to Wright-Patterson. production aircraft, particularly when locate a headquarters so that it is rea- Mr. Speaker, I urge that when the the total engineering responsibility from sonably equidistant, areawise, from the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. SCHENCK] the cradle to the grave was placed in units which it controls. We should take speaks on his amendment you give this ARDC. advantage of long-term positions of base matter your serious attention, because I Three. The other serious difficulty en- availability, and therefore, possible re- am convinced that the Secretary of the countered was the fact that ARDC head- ductions in long-range operating costs. Air Force made a bad decision when he quarters was created, in the main, from. These factor:., under the present pro- went against the advice of the Air Force the most experienced people of the gram of austerity, become of major im- leaders, the unanimous advice of the engineering division at Wright Field. portKance. Therefore, at a very critical time in the Ninth. There are three major factors and Che express on Armed Sense build-up of the Air Force, the slew which make .he Wright Field location of , Rer sen express wishes of the House WADC and the AMC production division for ARDC headquarters of overriding took oopffieesueives and soon after he were forced to carry on a tremendously importance, first, at the present time, `moo ce issued orders d transfer this accelerated workload with less People at roughly 50 percent of ARDC's total man- I alll the to Andrews Field. project level than they had had be- agement affairs are carried on through the Schenck all the Members will support fore the reorganization. the project offices, in close coordination Mr. S. SMIT TH of amendmena. ViremiaMr. Speaker, Fourth. The inevitable minor prob- with AMC: second, the laboratories at I yield to the gentleman from Georgia lems and petty jealousies in connection Wright Field are the logical areas for the [Mr. FLYNT). with any such reorganization as this Initiation and technical supervision of (Mr. FLYNT asked and was given have been pretty well reconciled. The practically every major program, except permission to extend his remarks at this present commanders-Powell and Rawl- the responslb:l ties of the ICBM and point in the RECORD and to include ex- ings-have established a close working IRBM; and th:rd, it is a central location, traneous matter.) relationship, and personnel and organs- which is certainly somewhat less vul- FORT BENNING A MODEL OF WILDLIFE MANAGE- zationwise, both organizations have, nerable than a coastal location and rela- within the last year, attained a stable tively equidistant from the other ARDC MENT AND GAME CONSERVATION and clear understanding of their com- centers, as well as reasonably coequal in Mr. FLYNT. Mr. Speaker, in the light mon problems, and the total mission re- distance from the various centers of of many loose and unfair charges being quirements to which they must contri- technical knowledge located, in the made that our military personnel are bute, for the overall advancement of Air main, on the West Coast, in the North- willfully killing game and taking fish on Force technology and the Air Force in- cast, and in the Chicago-Detroit areas. service reservations in violation of State ventory requirements. Tenth. In the past, the Air Force has laws and conservation practies, I include Fifth. The coordination and close co- tried operation of engineering, produc- herewith an article from the Army and operation attained by the present proj- tion and procurement from the Wash- Navy Journal of July 7, 1956, on wildlife ect office organization have produced ington headquarters. In each case it management at the Army's huge reser- real dividends. ARDC initiates the was found that superior results were ob- vation at Fort Benning, Ga. Further, weapon system offices and retains their tained when the operating activities were I am assured that similar programs are management until the production cycle decentralized to Dayton and the Staff in force at many other service installa- is initiated, then AMC takes over the responsibilities of the Chief were carried tions. The report on Fort Kenning's management at Dayton of the project out in the Washington headquarters. commendable program follows: office, until the weapon system has pro- Eleventh. For the same reasons that FORT KENNING CITED AS MODEL OF WILDLIFE gressed through production to the point have been advanced for the placement of MANAGEMENT AND GAME CONSERVATION where its management may be trans- the ARDC headquarters at Baltimore, The fish and game preserve on Fort Ben- ferred to the responsible AMC depot. Andrews Air Force Base, Langley Air on ning's e of the riich strand best regulatedawildll e Sixth. Coupled with the weapons sys- Force Base, and other eastern points, sanctuaries In the Southland. tem offices, the related phasing groups, adjacent to Washington, we could ad- That It Is so can be credited largely to the composed of members from USAF vance the philosophy that AMC head- Fort Benning Fish and Game Management headquarters, tactical commands in- quarters should also be moved to the Association, a voluntary group which has valved, and the pertinent depots and Washington area. been working since 1949 to make the area centers, have resulted in a better job of Twelfth. If either AMC or ARDC abundant with natural life. ation is an organi of initial planning, detailed operational headquarters are located within an The en. lim it in e ership to ve and materiel planning, production for hour's drive from Washington, then the military p limited d in membership to active the inventory and tactical support than duties of that headquarters might well members pers onnel their families, retiredBmilitary has even been accomplished before in be combined with the Deputy on the Air personnel living in the Columbus, Ga., area, the history of the Air Force or its prede- Staff in charge of that responsibility. and disabled veterans. cessor organizations. Certainly, there is no reason for having Its aim Is to conserve wildlife while at the Seventh. In consideration of the many two senior officers and staffs essentially same time affording its members hunting recommendations advanced, both by charged with tae same responsibilities in their fishing grounds where t its can the game those people with responsibility for re- in the same local area, laws sport within the limits of Ala game of the States of Georgia and Alabama. cults and those who are only in an ad- Thirteenth. For the long pull, it ap- The association's new ew president is Col. visory capacity, it is obvious that any pears that the major justification for the Lester L. Wheeler. United States Army, who headquarters for any Air Force function relocation of the ARDC headquarters recently succeeded Brig. Gen. Frederick R. could be located anywhere in the United was the construction of a new headquar- Zierath, United States Army. States. It has been the repeated decision tees building a; Wright Field proper. To create and maintain a game refuge on he Benning of many senior commanders that if you The only additional problem lies in the rma intain a gawere adopreservationted th he laws and are to command an operating organiza- provision of more housing under the These tare rigidly enforced at groassociation 12 tion charged with a major portion of the Capehart Act, or by local construction men known as Range Guards, who operate Air Force mission, such as TAC, SAC, firms. This, from the standpoint of under the supervision of the infantry center ADC, ARDC, or AMC, that the farther morale and wel -being of personnel in Provost Marshal's Section. Although their you get away from Washington, the bet- the most critical categories, would be duties vary, they are, essentially, game ward- ter. This Is for the simple reason that the simplest, ma;t straightforward solu- ens. They are under the Immediate com- too close a location of the headquarters tion. mans of 2d Lt. Edward B. Rogers, United to Washington results In confusion Fourteenth. T-ie Commander, ARDC, of SLates Army, ficer. L eute Fort ntBRoge s Is a graduate of rather than coordination. The person- made strong repiesentation last year be- the University of Georgia with a degree of Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 1956 Approve 8 2 & M- 6ffg 5R000100200006-2 11353 forestry, with a minor in wildlife manage. ment. In addition to seeing that the associa- tion's laws are observed, the Range Guards also carry out the group's restocking and feeding program. They plant and maintain some 500 acres of feed patches around the reservation. Also, they supervise prescribed areas for proper biological balance in fish and wildlife control. This balance entails lake restocking and fertilizing, game feeding and trapping predatory animals. Last season, for example, more than 1,000 predatory ani- mals, such as bobcats, opossums and skunks, were exterminated, thereby greatly increas- ing the game population for the 1955 season. One program whibh began last year, but which will be enlarged, is the planting of aquatic foods for migratory fowl. In the past, fowl stopped only for a short while on the reservation. Finding inadequate food, they soon moved on. To remedy this condi- tions, a relatively small area was planted this year. A larger area will be planted next year. The bag limit set down by the association, as well as the opening and closing dates for the various hunting and fishing seasons, follow the State laws of Georgia and Ala- bama, since the reservation overlaps into both States. Although the States' seasons permit hunting from opening to closing dates, Fort Benning limits hunting to Wednesday afternoons, Saturdays, Sundays, and holidays, while still observing the in- clusive dates as prescribed by the States. Last year, Fort Benning opened its deer season early. Critics of this failed to take into consideration that it was opened early by special permission of the Georgia and Alabama Fish and Game Commissions so that members of the Third Infantry Division would have an opportunity to hunt prior to leaving the post for Exercise Sage Brush. The "association also has been charged with allowing the shooting last year of does as well as bucks. This is true. But permission was given by the Georgia Game Commission to reduce the population of surplus old does. Howtver, does were shot only in the Georgia area, since Alabama did not give specific approval for the killing of does. By and large, at a time when House In- terior Committee is hearing charges that e military reservations around the United States are flouting State game and fish laws, Fort "Henning is in the enviable position of being considered by Federal and Georgia State experts to be the Nation's most pro- ductive military wildlife preserves. Mr. BROWN of Ohio. Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Iowa [Mr. Geoss]. (Mr. GROSS asked and was given per- mission to revise and extend his re- marks.) Mr. GROSS. Mr. Speaker, it is be- coming the rule rather than the excep- tion that when appropriation bills come before this House there is a rule waiving points of order. The gentleman from Virginia [Mr. SMITH] says that this rule is made necessary by virtue of the fact that it refers to some law which has not as yet been enacted: I contend that the rule is also made necessary because of legislation in con- nection with the Jones Point Bridge for which $14,325,000 would be appropriated under the terms of this bill, the Jones Point Bridge to be built across the Poto- mac River down-at Alexandria, Va., at the expense of all the taxpayers of the country. There is legislation concern- ing that appropriation in this bill de- spite what the gentleman from Virginia may say. I certainly was prepared to raise a point of order against the legislation in connection with the construction of that bridge and it is becoming something close to an affront to the House to bring these appropriation bills in here under rules waiving points of order. We might just as well throw out the rule book so far as points of order on appropriation bills are concerned if this sort of thing is going to continue. The rules specifically provide that ap- propriation bills shall not be brought into the House containing legislation. If there was some emergency, I could un- derstand waiving points of order, and certainly I would go along, but you can read this bill backward and forward and you will not finti a single item in this bill of an emergency nature. Mr. Speaker, I urge Members of the House to give serious consideration to what is happening when repeatedly rules are being brought in waiving. points of order on appropriation bills. Mr. SMITH of Virginia. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may require. Mr. Speaker, in reply to the question asked by the gentleman from Iowa a lit- tle while ago, I find that I did not give him accurate information on it, and I want to correct my previous statement and explain the purport of the item relating to Jones Point Bridge so far as the point of order is concerned. So far as the construction of the bridge is concerned, it is water over the dam. It has been authorized by both bodies and signed by the President. It is a very much needed project, not for Virginia or Maryland but for the District of Co- lumbia and the Federal Government it- self in getting its people back and forth over the river, where you all know con- gested conditions exist and have existed for a long time and are getting worse all the time. Now, so far as the point of order is con- cerned, I was not aware of it until it was pointed out to me a moment ago after I had replied to the gentleman from 'Iowa. There is a provision on page 4 in the nature of a proviso which says: Provided, That the unexpended balance of the appropriation granted under this head in the Second Supplemental Appropriation Act. 1955, is hereby merged with this appro- priation. It does not increase the appropriation but just merges the previous appropria- tion with this appropriation and throws it all into one pot. Then there is a proviso which I think is not subject to a point of order because it is a limitation on the appropriation and favors the point of view which the gentleman from Iowa takes. That pro- viso reads: That this paragraph shall be effective only upon the final consummation of agreements for the maintenance and operation of the bridge and approaches by the States of Vir- ginia and Maryland. If those things constitute objectionable points of order, of course, it is up to the 'House what they want to do about it. Mr. Speaker, I move the previous ques- tion on the resolution. The previous question was ordered. The SPEAKER. The question is on the resolution. The question was taken, and the Speaker announced that the ayes ap- peared to have it. Mr. GROSS. Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote of.the ground that a quorum is not present and make the point of order that a quorum is not present. The SPEAKER. Evidently a quorum is not present. The Doorkeeper will close the doors, the Sergeant at Arms will notify absent Members, and the Clerk will call the roll. The question was taken; and there were-yeas 361, nays 30, not voting 41? as follows: [Roll No. 991 YEAS--361 Abbitt Coudert Healey Abernethy Cramer Hebert Adair Cretella Henderson Addonizio Cunningham Herlong Albert Curtis, Mass. Hiestand Alexander Dague Hill Allen, Calif. Davidson Hillings Allen, Ill. Davis, Ga. Hinshaw Andresen, Dawson, Ill. Hoeven August H. Dawson, Utah Holifleld Andrews Deane Holland Anfuso Delaney Holmes Arends Dempsey Holt Ashley Denton Holtzman Ashmore Derouniart Hope Aspinall Devereux Horan Auchincloss Diggs Hosmer Avery Dingell Huddleston Ayres Dixon Hull Bailey Dodd Hyde Baker Dollinger Ikard Baldwin Dolliver Jackson Barrett Dondero James Bass, N. H. Donohue Jarman Bates Dorn, N. Y. Jenkins Baumhart Dorn, S. C. Jennings Beamer Dowdy Jensen Becker Doyle Johnson, Calif` Belcher Durham Johnson, Wis. Bennett, Fla. Edmondson Jonas Bennett, Mich. Elliott Jones, Ala. Bentley Ellsworth Jones, Mo. Betts Engle Jones, N. C. Blatnik Fallon Judd Boggs Fascell Karsten Boland Feighan Kean Bolling Fenton Kearns Bolton, Fernandez Kee Frances P. Fino Kelly, N. Y. Bolton, Fisher Keogh Oliver P. FJare Kilburn Bonner Flood Kilday Bosch Flynt Kilgore Bowler Fogarty King, Calif. Boykin Forand King, Pa. Boyle Ford Kirwan Bray Forrester Klein. Brooks, La. Fountain Knox Brown, Ga. Frazier Knutson Brown, Ohio Frelinghuysen Krueger Brownson Friedet Laird Broyhill. Fulton Landrum Buckley Garmatz Lanham Budge Gary Lankford Burdick Gathings Latham Burnside Gavin LeCompte Bush Gentry Lesinski Byrd George Lipscomb Byrne, Pa. Gordon Long Canfield Grant McCarthy Cannon Gray McCormack Carlyle Green, Oreg. McCulloch Carrigg Green, Pa. McDonough Cederberg Gregory McGregor Ce1Jer Griffiths McIntire Chase Gubser McMillan Chatham Hagen McVey Chelf Haley Macdonald Chenoweth Halleck Machrowicz Chiperfleld Hand Mack, Ill. Christopher Harden Mack, Wash. Chudoff Hardy Madden Clark Harris Magnuson Clevenger Harrison, Nebr. Mahon Colmer Harrison, Va, Mailliard Cooley Hays, Ark. Marshall Coon Hays, Ohio Martin Cooper Hayworth Matthews Approved For Release 2004/08/25: CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approved For e ffl,yM4;P R@"1Wfi3M?#AR000100200006-2 July 12 Meader Ray Staggers Morrow Reece, Tenn. Sullivan Metcalf Reed, N. Y. Table Miller, Calif. Reuss Taylor Miller, Md. Rhodes. Aria. Teague. Calif. Miller, Nebr. Rhodes. Pa. Teague. Tex. Miller, N. Y. Richards Thomas Mills Riehlman Thompson, N. J. Minshall Riley Thompson. Tex. Mollohan Rivers Thom-on. Wyo. Morano Roberts Tolletson Morrison Robeson. Va. Trimble Moss Robelon, Ky. Tuck Moulder Rodlno Tumulty Minter Rogers. Colo. Udall Mumma Rogers, Fla. Utt Murray, 111. Rogers, Mass. Vanik Natcher Rogers, Tex. Velde Nicholson Rooney Vinson Norblad Roosevelt Vorys Norrell Rutherford Wainwright O'Brien, I1l. Sadlak Walter O'Brien, N. Y. St. George Watts O'Hara, Ill. Saylor Weaver O'Neill Schenck Westland Osmers Scherer Whitten Ostertag Schwengcl Widnall Patterson Scott W i ggl esworth Polly Scrlvner Williams, N. J. Perkins Seely-Brawn Williams, N. Y. Pfost Belden Willis Philbin Sheehan Wilson, Calif. Phillips Shelley Wilson. Ind. Filcher Sheppard Winstead Pillion Shuford Wolcott Poage Sikes Wolverton Poff Stier Wright Powell Simpson, Ill. Yates Preston Sisk Young Price Smith, Kans. Younger Quigley Smith, Miss. Zablockl Rabaut Smith. Va. Zelenko Radwan Spence Rains Springer NAYS-30 Alger Hale Smith, Wis. Andersen, Harvey Taber H. Carl Heselton Thompson. Bow Hess Mich. Byrnes, Wis. Hoffman, Mich. Van Pelt Church Johansen Vursell Corbett Keating Wharton Crumpacker Mason Wier Curtis, Mo. O'Konskl W llliams, Dies Prouty Miss. Gross Rees, Kans. Withrow NOT VOTING--41 Barden Gamble Passmnn Bass. Tenn. Gwlnn Patman Bell Hoffman, Ill. Polk Berry Kearney Priest Blitch Kelley, Pa. Scudder Brooks, Tex. Kluczynaki Short Burleson Lane Sierninski Carnahan Lovre Simpson, Pa. Cole McConnell Steed Davis, Tenn. McDowell Thompson, La. Davis, Wls. Morgan Thornberry Donovan Murray, Tenn. Van Zandt Eberharter Nelson Wickersham Evins O'Hara, Minn. So the resolution was agreed to. The Clerk announced the following pairs: Mr. Patman with Mr. Lovre. Mr. Passman with Mr. Cole. Mr. Kelley of Pennsylvania with Mr. Short. Mr. Thompson of Louisiana with Mr. Simp- son of Pennsylvania. Mr. Bell with Mr. Van Zandt. Mr. Morgan with Mr. Hoffman of Illinois. Mr. Barden with Mr. Gwlnn. Mr. Carnahan with Mr. Nelson. Mr. Donohue with Mr. McConnell. Mr. Elvins with Mr. O'Hara of Minnesota, Mr. Polk with Mr. Davis of Wisconsin. Mr. Priest with Mr. Kearney. Mr. Wickersham with W. Scudder. Mr. Kluczynski with Mr. Gamble. Mr. Burleson with Mr. Berry. Mr. HALEY changed his vote from "nay" to "yea." Mr. REES of Kansas changed his vote from "yea" to "nay." The result of the vote was announced as above recorder. The doors were opened. QUESTION OF PERSONAL PR,rV ILEGE Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. Mr. Speaker, I rise to a question of personal privilege. The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state his question of personal privilege. Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. Mr. Speaker, I rise to a question of personal privilege. On July 9, 1956, beginning at page 11015 of the daily CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, there appears a statement, which, among other things, includes the rollcall of the vote on H. R. 7535, known as the Federal aid to education bill, and the vote on the Powell amendment to that bill. The statement gives the names and the manner in which the individual Members of the House voted on the adoption of the Powell amendment and the passage of the bill, and the State from which each. Member voting came, as well as the political affiliation of each Member. A Member of the other body, referring to the House, among other things, said: Mr. President. the Washington Post and Tulles Herald In an editorial onJuly 7. cor- rectly referred to the Republican vote on the Powell amendment as "cynical politicking." The Post editorial says "Having squeezed what benefit they could out of voting for a rider that doomed the bill to death, most Republicans joined callously in burying it." The statement also included the edi- torial from the Washington Post and Times Herald, captioned "Ignoring the Children," which, among other things, stated: The measure was put to death by a com- bination of prejudice and politicking in an atnu,sphcre of corfuslon and finagling dis- creditable to Democrats and Republicans alike, and to the House Itself as a lawmaking body. Both parties mist share the blame for unconscionable jockeying for political ad- vantage over the formula for allocation of Federal funds In aid of education. It Is difficult to interpret this as anything but cynical politicking. Many who are now of school age will suffer an irreparable Injury from the shabby con- duct of the Mousse of Representatives on Thursday. They have been denied a part of their American birthright, The RECORD further discloses that from the floor of the Senate, the follow- ing statements were made: If the Presidents health, or recuperation, or concern over personal political problems. prevented him from exerting some personal influence and leadership In behalf of school construction, where were those junior presi- dents, Sherman Adams and James C. Hag- erty, who have always seemed able to assert White House leadership when they really want to? No Member of the Senate. perhaps, has been any more dedicated to preserving the civil rights of all our people than I have. On page A5384 of the daily CONGRES- SIONAL RECORD, under date of July 9, 1956, there is a statement captioned "Ig- noring the Children" in which the edito- rial previously referred to is again quoted. Inasmuch as the statement shows how the Member from the Fourth Congres- sional District of Michigan voted on the Powell amendment and on final passage of the bill when that statement is cou- pled with the editorial from which quo- tations have just been made, it is obvious that it was made in violation of the rules of the House, if not of the other body, that it violates the rule of comity pre- vailing in the Congress, and that it ad- versely affects the rights, the reputation, and conduct individually in his repre- sentative capacity of the Member from the Fourth Congressional District of Michigan, and charges that his vote on H. R. 7535 and amendments thereto were motivated, brought about by improper influences to which he yielded. Mr. Speaker, I have, in that same con- nection, a question of the privilege of the House, and in order to save time and consolidate the matter, I ask that they be considered together, if that is possible. The SPEAKER. Without objection, they can be considered together. There was no objection. QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE OF THE HOUSE Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. Mr. Speaker, I rise to a question of privilege of the House and offer a resolution, which I send to the Clerk's desk. I ask to be heard on the question of privilege and on the resolution. Mr. Speaker, on July 9, 1956, beginning at page 11015 of the daily CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, there appears a statement, which, among other things, includes the rollcall of the vote on H. R. 7535, known as the Federal aid to education bill, and the vote on the Powell amendment to that bill. The statement gives the names and the manner in which the individual Members of the House voted on the adoption of the Powell amendment and the passage of the bill, and the State from which each Member voting came, as well as the political affiliation of each Member. Then followed the same statements quoted in my previous statement and which will not be here repeated. Mr. Speaker, the quotations previously read in connection with the question.of personal privilege are in violation of the rule of comity which exists in the Congress, they adversely affect the rights of the House collectively, its safety, its dignity, and the integrity of its proceed- ings in that, among other things, the quotations charged that the House acted from improper motives and because of improper influence. They raise a ques- tion of the privilege of the House. Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. I offer a resolution (H. Res. 588) which has to do with the question of the privilege of the House. The Clerk read as follows: Resolved, whereas In the CONGRESSIONAL RecoRn of July 9, 1956, certain articles ap- pear which reflect upon the integrity of the House as a whole in its representative capac- ity, and upon Individual Members of the House; and Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approval Cp ~AI~Q~RB~45R000100200006-2 Whereas such statements tend to disgrace, degrade, and render ineffective the actions of the Members of the House; and Whereas the statements so made and car- ried in the RECORD adversely affect the rights of the House collectively, its safety, dignity, and the integrity of its proceedings: Now, therefore, be it Resolved, That the House hereby by the adoption of this resolution most respectfully requests that the other body expunge from its records the rolicall votes and remarks ap- pearing on pages 11016-11017 and the re- marks appearing on page A5384 of the daily CONGRESSIONAL RECORD Of July 9, 1956, under the caption "Ignoring the Children"; and be it further Resolved, That a copy of this resolution be transmitted to the Presiding Officer of the other body. Mr. McCORMACK. Mr. Speaker, I move that the resolution be referred to the Committee on Rules. The SPEAKER. The question is on the motion. The motion was agreed to. COMMITTEE ON POST OFFICE AND CIVIL SERVICE Mr. MORRISON. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the House Com- mittee on Post Office and Civil Service be allowed to meet this after loon during general debate for testimony only. The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from Loui- siana? Mr. MILLER of Nebraska. Mr. Speak- er, reserving the right to object, I be- lieve there has been. some agreement on this side that no committee will be per- mitted to sit while the House is in ses- sion. If the gentleman's request in- cludes that, I will have to go along with my colleagues on this side and object. The SPEAKER. Objection is heard. The SPEAKER. The question is on should be stricken out. Suppose you get the motion offered by the gentleman a project started for an airfield in from Missouri. France or somewhere like that and The motion was agreed to. France tells us that we cannot stay any Accordingly the House resolved itself longer, or something like that happens. into the Committee of the Whole House This is pure supposition. I do not mean on the State of the Union for the con- they have that tendency now. We sideration of the bill H. It. 12138, with would not be able to stop the construc- Mr. KILDAY in the chair. tion work on it. We would have to go The Clerk read the title of the bill. on just the same. By unanimous consent, the first read- Mr. MAHON. Mr. Chairman, will the ing of the bill was dispensed with. gentleman yield? Mr. CANNON. Mr. Chairman, this bill Mr. TABER. I yield to the gentleman is largely a matter of routine. It is the from Texas. supplemeital appropriation bill--we Mr. MAHON. I am in complete agree- used to call it a deficiency bill-which is ment with the gentleman's desire to be always brought in at the end of the ses- able to stop projects that should be sion, making provision for certain regu- stopped. It was not in any way the in- lar supply items and for supplemental tention of the Defense Subcommittee to appropriations. It naturally concerns bring about the condition which the practically every department of the Gov- time lthe bill is ready Between for amendment, I e r The is made up by chapters. Each should be glad to work with the gentle- The bill chapter represents supplementals or man in an effort to arrive at some agree- general appropriations for the year end- ment in regard to a change in the ing June 30, 1957. The bill includes 13 language. Of course the gentleman can chapters and will be handled seriatim always offer a motion to strike out the by the chairmen of the respective sub- language in the bill. committees. It embraces, with one pos- Mr. TABER. I simply feel that I sible exception so far as I am aware, should call attention to it at this point nothing of a controversial nature. It because I do not feel it is safe to have consists largely of routine stereotyped that kind of language in the bill. I matter and procedure. We are tying up would like to have it corrected, and if all the loose ends and preparing for ad- it is not corrected it might better be journment with the expectation that we stricken out, in my opinion. But T will have provided enough money to car- felt that I should call attention to it ry all departments at least up to the next and I have done so. I do not think I session in January. care to make any extensive comment on May I say, Mr. Chairman, that this is the question at this time. not a small bill. All budget estimates Mr. CANNON. Mr. Chairman, will considered aggregated $1,222,849,525. the gentleman yield? Apparently on the face of the bill it is Mr. TABER. I yield. $332,685,900 in excess of the budget esti- Mr. CANNON. Section 309, which the mates. However, that excess is merely gentleman has just discussed, is the sec- apparent, as it does not take into consid- tion on which the gentleman and I are mode through re-cis- in complete accord as to its general ob- ____~._- the ngs n the --- s10ns, prlnclua.uy i SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION chapter of the bill. When that is taken which might be the means of turning BILL, 1957 into consideration, we actually present a over to the departments duties and pre bill which is $32,300,000 less than the rogatives of the House the determination Mr. CANNON. Mr. Speaker, I move estimate submitted to the committee. of how much money shall be provided that the House resolve itself into the Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I yield and how it shall be used. The Govern- Committee of the Whole House on the myself such time as I may desire. ment is wisely divided into three see- State of the Union for the consideration Mr. Chairman, this bill calls for tions-the legislative, judicial, and exec- of the bill (H. It. 12138) making supple- $1,555,535,425 of appropriations. I utive. They are not to encroach upon mental appropriations for the fiscal year served on one of the subcommittees each other's jurisdiction as laid down in ending June 30, 1957, and for other pur- that was involved in it, and there is the Constitution. To the legislative poses; and pending that motion, Mr. a cut of $625,500. There are other 'cuts branch exclusively belongs. the function Speaker, I should like to make 2 involved, some of which are very good of appropriating money. From time im- unanimous consent requests; first, that in proportion to the amount asked for. memorial, the departments have sought a all Members have 5 legislative days in On the other hand, the committee felt voice in how much money shall be appro- which to extend their remarks and to they should increase the direct appro- priated for them and how they shall use include extraneous matter. I do that priation available for the Military Es- it after they get it. We have for a long in order to save time during the con- tablishment's construction program. time been trying to bring the situation sideration of the bill under the 5-minute The construction program is crippled down to where the appropriations are rule. by an amendment which ? appears on to be made by the Congress and the ac- The SPEAKER. Is there objection to page 10 of the bill as section 309. That tion of the Congress accepted and ob- the request of the gentleman from is drawn in such shape that if a project served by the departments. The money Missouri? the Department starts goes sour it can- appropriated by Congress shall be ad- There was no objection. not take the money away from it. It ministered by the departments in ac- Mr. CANNON. Mr. Speaker, second has to go on through with it. cordance with the directions and for the I ask unanimous consent that general They indicate in their report that they purposes for which the money was pro- debate on this bill be limited to 2 hours, want to accomplish something different vided by the Congress and not for other one-half" of that time to be controlled from that. Whether or not they can purposes desired by the departments. by the gentleman from New York [Mr. supply any language that will accom- To insure control of the pursestrings TABERI and one-half by myself. plish what they want to do, whether or by the Congress rather than by the de- The SPEAKER. Is there objection to not the provision will be worded so as to partments, we have in recent years the request' of the gentleman from accomplish that, I do not know. If they finally completed and enacted a satis- Missouri? can, I would be willing to go along with it. factory antideficiency law. The purpose There was no objection. If they cannot, I think that provision of the antideficiency law is to place in Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 11356 Approved For R "ts?MffqiCft D3T0? (JUSE 0100200006-2 July 12 the Congress complete control of the to be pulled out in the event that these sour or is not needed. That is what I do appropriation machinery, rather than in projects go sour or become no longer not like about it. the departments and under this revised needed. i hope as we go along we will Mr. GROSS. I think the criticism of enactment it Is a penitentiary offense to be able to cove.- that. spend a dollar for a purpose other than I do not think there is anything more t the onion it provision is that there is no restric- spend for which appropriated. I care to say unless someone desires to Mr. TABER Also we have recently enacted a loll ask question. my g Mr. Chairman, I re- Also definition of "obligation." But Mr. SHEPPARD. Mr. Chairman, will serve MrtCe balance NON. of r. Ch time. just as fast as we tie these departments the gentleman yield? ter IV M. C Mr. chap- beginning on page 10, down, they try to find some way of Mr. TABER. I yield. of the bill this bill, pter III of the rt slipping out from under the restrictions. Mr. SHEPPARD. I have read this beginning of the big and chapter III e the report, And here as usual, regardless of what section very carefully. Where does the on reTt to the De- the Congress does, they are trying to get gentleman find that the language incor- from mTexas of Defense. [Mr. The g chairman the money and spend It or refuse to porated in section 309 has changed the of that Texas Me, an f chairman spend it as they please. The gentleman present authority of the Department of of subcommittee, and at this time minutes. from New York and I are in complete Defense? I yield him 'E 20 agreement that Congress should ap- Mr. TABER. Well, at the NATIONAL DNSS AND THE INSI)CVRITY OF propriate the money and Congress time the Defense Department or present Mr. ON OVERSEAS should say how it is to be spent. The Budget may impound funds. before us cous inso Mr. the bin Chairman, departments appear before the com- Mr. SHEPPARD. They still can of funds ne n the appropriation mittee and have the widest latitude in under this language. for military concerned is largely a direct explaining what money they want and Mr. TABER. No. appropriations construction. The dirc- what they expect to do with it. After Mr. SHEPPARD. Oh. yes, they can. ing into o consideration the wtransf raof they have presented their case, the Con- Dir. TABER. If the gentleman would fag into transfer have f gress decides whether they have justi- listen while I read: funds from other accounts which hunt fled their program. After they have No funds appropriated for military con- been previously appropriated, amount had their day in court they should abide structton shall be made available to the re- to $1,826,000,000 for military public by the decision of the Congress. Too spective military departments in a manner works. If you add to that money which often, they have failed to do that. Too so as to restrict the application of funds the Defense Department now has which often after Congress has appropriated a to any specific project or installation. has not been obligated you run that definite sum of money for a specific cur- That practica'ly means that they can- figure up to $2,699,000,000 for military over- pose, they propose to freeze it and leave not touch funds that are made appli- seasliforoths lfiscalsye r. If you take it unexpended. In effect they take the cable to any particular project or in- position "Congress says that we are to stallation. After it starts there is no tinto his ill and unexpended ende funds as of spend it for a certain purpose, but to heck way to stop it. That is where the trouble this bill and hex total funds as it of with Congress, we will not spend it at is. It says just that. I do not like to for June expenditure 1dit the total funds sska of all-or we will spend it for some other see the Government get Into that kind of this bill for after military the paos of purpose." That is in violation of the a position, thbill $4,500,000,000. 0tpublic works will constitutional prerogatives of the House Mr. SHEPPARD. Of course I do not be $t a very sizable So we are talking and is what we are trying to avoid here. agree-with the gentleman's interpreta- about a very sizable measure here be- Congress has heard the executive tion. I will admit he has a right to his fore us. departments, and after they have had Interpretation, but I have had it inter- FOREIGN AID AND THE DEFENSE PROGRAM their opportunity to present their case, preted by a legal division of a Govern- Yesterday there was considerable com- and the Congress has passed upon It, meat agency involved, and they do not ment in the House in regard to our over- they shall observe both the amount and take that interpretation. seas bases and how secure those bases the purposes which the Congress has in- Mr. TABER. I have had several con- were for the defense of the United States. corporated in its appropriation acts. tacts since this thing came up, and that I look at our defense program about like Section 309 provides for that situation. is the conclusion I came to, not only on this: We are spending about $35 billion It speaks for itself. I am anxious to go my own reading of the thing, but on my a year for the Army, Navy, and Air along with the gentleman from New talks with these other people. Force; we are spending about $31z bil- York to the point where the department Mr. MAIION. Mr. Chairman, will the lion for foreign aid which we hope is shall observe the directions of the Con- gentleman yield? American aid. In other words, we are gress. Avoiding any apprehensions the Mr. TABER. I yield. spending about 10 percent of the defense departments may have with respect to Mr. MAHON. I believe it is not the appropriations for assistance to coun- sudden emergencies or changed condi- Intention of Congress to deprive the Sec- tries overseas, for military assistance tions, the Congress is in session the retary of Defense of control of the De- and otherwise. If we should eliminate larger part of the year. This year we fense Department at all, in the exercise all foreign-aid programs, all military as- are to be in recess over a period of some- of authority which it now has. sistance overseas; if we should write off thing like 5 months; a longer period than Mr. TABER. If that is the case, and all our friends overseas we would prob- the usual recess, but that is exceptional, we say, so, that would satisfy me. If we ably have to increase this defense appro- even that is not too long for the de- would put in here just that, "This is not priation bill by $10 billion or $15 bil- partments, even if in their superior wis- intended to deprive the Department of lion a year. dom they feel the Congress has erred Defense or its controllers or the budget Always when the Chairman of the and they should take constitutional au- of any authority ;hat they now have." Joint Chiefs of Staff, Admiral Radford, thority in their own hands. If we would add that or similar lan- and the members of the Joint Chiefs ap- Sessions of Congress are close enough guage I would be satisfied. Commit- and the committee staff is always here Mr. GROSS. Mr. Chairman, will the tee,ratfonett eporoanother they are and the subcommittees can assemble on gentleman yield? short notice. The Constitution while Mr. TABER. to state whether d not add Army, somewhat shopworn is not . .: yield to the gentle- f asked would be required for the Army, yet com- man from Iowa. Navy, and Air Force should there be no pletely outmoded. Mr. GROSS. Is it the gentleman's foreign-aid program. Without excep- Mr. TABER. I think this language contention that this is a restriction or tion and throughout the entire foreign- should be straightened out, if possible. not a restriction upon the Secretary of aid program these high military officials If it is not, I think this section should Defense? of the Government have always said that be stricken out. I agree that the ap- Mr. TABER. IL Is my contention that vast additional billions would be re- proach should be that the department after moneys are allocated to a proj- quired were it not for the foreign-aid should do what the Congress laid out ect and it gets :started they must go program. It is much cheaper to equip for them. On the other hand, I do not right straight thiough with it without and finance a native soldier in Turkey like to see it in such shape that there and possibility of salvage or anything of or some other foreign area than to is no opportunity for the Government that kind in the event the project goes maintain an American soldier overseas. Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 1956 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOIDIA 11357 Of course, the program takes on different aspects from country to country. Gen- erally speaking, we spend about 10 per- cent of the defense budget on foreign aid. We spend about 5 percent of the defense budget on the atomic energy program. That is about the way the defense pro- gram stacks up. Of course, it is an un- fortunate fact that neither our foreign- aid program nor our military-defense- program at home is free from waste and error. As I said, references have been made to the hazardous aspects of our overseas program of military bases. There are $400 million in this bill for overseas air bases alone and it is about these over- seas bases that I would like to speak to you briefly today. If foreign soldiers In large, numbers were quartered in Washington and in other areas of the United States that would represent a very abnormal and unnatural situation, a very precarious situation, a situation which would more or less be calculated to bring on friction and difficulty. The situation is no dif- ferent overseas. We have these large numbers of military bases, we have our military personnel overseas in free and sovereign countries. It is a difficult sit- uation, it is bringing about friction, it has brought about friction in Iceland to the extent that we may not be there for very long. Of course, any Member of the House of Representatives who is opposed to our overseas bases could offer an amendment to strike from this bill the funds in it, running into the hundreds of millions of dollars,: for further construction of overseas bases. Most of these funds are not for new bases, they are for the com- pletion of existing bases. I think we ought to face up frankly to the situa- tion with which we are confronted. I would say if no one offered such an amendment it could be assumed that the Members of the House approve the pro- gram for overseas bases and the imple- mentation thereof as carried in this bill. Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. MAHON. I yield to the gentle- man from Michigan. Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. How can the average Member know how many bases there are, where the bases are to be constructed? Mr. MAHON. I think it would be necessary for Members to read the re- ports, to study the bill and to have a general overall idea of the complete situation. I recognize that no Member of Congress could get up and say: We want to knock out this overseas base, we want to keep that one. It is an overall question of whether we want to with- draw our forces and our contacts from abroad and rely for our defense solely on Fortress America and provide the ad- ditional billions for defense which the adoption of this concept would require. Do we want to adopt the Fortress Amer- ica concept or do we want to keep these bases overseas in our possession, bases which constitute a ring around the U. S. S. R.? Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield fur- ther? Mr. MAHON. I yield. Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. Now, how many overseas bases have we at this time? Mr. MAHON. Well, I do not have the total figure for all services in mind at the moment. I understand that the Air Force has 145 major airbases outside the continental United States. This in- cludes bases in Alaska, Newfoundland, Labrador, Hawaii, and other areas of a like nature. The other two services have a number of installations overseas, but not nearly as many as the Air Force. Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. Nine hundred, as I get the information from the Department. Mr. MAHON. Well, 900 is certainly erroneous, if you are speaking of major bases. If you include each individual communications station and like instal- lation, then the total would be several hundred. Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. That is wrong? Mr. MAHON. - That is very much wrong if we are referring to major in- stallations. it is a question of termi- nology. Mri HOFFMAN of Michigan. That is the answer they gave me. Maybe it is wrong. Does not the gentleman real- ize-we will leave the average Member out of it-but the Member from Michigan is almost wholly dependent upon the members of the committee to get that in- formation. Mr. MAHON. I - recognize the diffi- culties which the gentleman describes. But this is an issue that is so big and represents so many hundreds of millions of dollars that every Member ought to know something about it, and it is for that reason that I have decided to make a statement about it. And, if I may be permitted to proceed a little while, then I will yield later, but I want to make my statement, and I think the gentleman will be interested in it. This is a very serious situation, as I say. Mr. HALLECK. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. MAHON. I yield to the gentle- man from Indiana. Mr. HALLECK. I just want to com- mend the gentleman. I am happy that he is putting these facts before us, be- cause I am quite convinced' that it is the failure to understand the purposes of these overseas bases and their useful- ness in our own defense that causes so much confusion and concern in the country, I think If the people could have heard the gentleman's statement and understood it, they would know that these overseas bases are the first line of defense for the United States of Amer- lea and the free world. Mr. MAHON. The gentleman is en- tirely correct. But, I point out how un- natural it is for us to have these bases 'overseas in these sovereign countries. I point out this, that we are going to lose some of them from time to time, but I will say to the gentleman from Indiana that perhaps if we lose them all tomor- row they would have already served a most vital purpose. They may have prevented World War III and the ex- penditure of several billions of dollars and many lives. It is a very important point, and the fact that the base at Ke- flavik, in Iceland, is threatened-I do not think the base will be lost, but the fact that it is threatened has caused us to, I think, look at this important ques- tion again. It Is something that the committee has been looking at all the time, and I think, to use Mr. HOFFMAN's words, the average Member of Congress ought to look at it, and that is the reason I am making these remarks. I read from, I think, the most au- thoritative magazine that comes to our desk, and I read the following head- line: "United States Bases Overseas Going, Going-." And, I think the im- plication is "gone" is going to be the next thing. The first paragraph of that story is: The next few. weeks will tell whether or not the United States will be able to keep intact its chain of overseas airbases, built up at great expense in money, time, and ef- fort since World War U. There is some truth in the statement which I have just read. Now, I would like to just take a look at some of these bases. Since we'are talk- ing about Iceland, which is very much in our minds, let us take a look at Iceland. There is no money in this bill for the base in Iceland, but on the airbase in Iceland we have already spent $1.07 million. We have a right to stay in Iceland for 18 months after a decision to terminate the agreement or the life of NATO or for 20 years, beginning to run when NATO was created. Of course, the right to remain is renewable-if we and Iceland so agree. Look at Greenland. in this bill we have $6 million for bases in Greenland, but we have already appropriated for Thule, just one base in Greenland, $225 million, and most of it has been spent. There are other bases, in Greenland, running the expenditure for overseas bases in Greenland, under the jurisdic- tion of Denmark, around $300 million. Look at Newfoundland and Labrador. We have already spent $271 million there, and we have in this bill $48 million. And, if this program is wrong, we ought to have stopped it yesterday. Now, in Morocco we are in a very diffi- cult situation. We have in this bill $27 million for bases in French Morocco ; that is, for the improvement of those bases. We have already appropriated-and most of it has been spent-$355 million on the bases in French Morocco, and you know the difficulty between the French and the Moroccans. We are now negotiating with the Arabs of Morocco for the further occupancy of these bases. The truth is we are over the barrel. We have spent our $355 million. Some wise man may say, "Well, why did you do that?" But it was done at a time when it appeared that world war III was in the offing. It was done on a crash program. And it is well that it was done. But in my judgment, we Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 11358 Approved For Relg (g ( of6NALCI tIMT00if5g~0100200006-2 Jlcl y 12 must recognize the difficulties Involved. beginning in 1949 and it can be renewed Japan, Korea, the Philippines, southern Of course, the people in Morocco would if the powers agree. It is on a 10-year Asia, with the single exception of India, like to have $400 million a year, perhaps, basis in Spain, where we are paying $825 Pakistan, Turkey, Greece and Italy, for our occupancy of the bases there. million. it is renewable. If we should France. Germany, and England. Is not We cannot and would not pay it. So we happen to leave, there is an agreement that true? We have brought any area have got to negotiate with the Arabs with Spain that we will be reimbursed for of the potential aggressor within the for a continuation of that program, some of the physical properties we would range of our planes within a few hours. which is an unhappy situation. But leave there. There is no real agree- Mr. MAHON. We have brought them when you deal with sovereign countries went with England as to tenure. It is within that range or are bringing them you must take into account the facts of just an open-cnd affair, but perhaps that within that range. life. For the Wheelus Air Force Base in is as good a:; any of the rest of the In order to get that in proper perspec- Libya in North Africa we have in this agreements. tive, let us assume for a moment that the bill $21/ million. We have already ap- It is not po.;sible to get an agreement Soviets had bases in the Caribbean, bases propriated in previous years $70 million. to stay in a sovereign country any longer in Canada, and bases offshore in the At- Our tenure there is until 1970. than the people in that country want you lantic and the Pacific. We could then Of course, these can always be re- to stay. I discussed the situation in realize the terrific advantage our coun- newed: that is, If the two countries agree. Morocco. I think we must face up to try does have in this perilous world. We In the Azores we have in this bill this. When you vote for the $400 mil- can also realize why the Soviets will $4,200,000 for a base there. We have lion here just for airbases alone, plus dedicate any effort and any money that already appropriated $77 million. Our, funds for Army and Navy requirements, may be advantageously expended from base rights in the Azores expire in De- you might just as well face up to this, their viewpoint in order to dislodge us cember of this year. We are now nego- that any time any country in the world from the overseas bases. It is a very tinting for the continuation of that says, "You must pack up and go home." important operation from our standpoint tenure. we can do only one of two things. We and from theirs. in Bermuda we have a 99-year lease, can pack up and go home or we can go Mr. SPRINGER. And in the mainte- negotiated just before World War II. We to war in order to stay there. That is nance of these bases in these countries, have $17 million in the bill for that base. the very precarious position which we this is in our own self interest; is it not We have spent previously $57 million. occupy in regard to our overseas bases. and that is why we are maintaining In Spain we have a terrific program. Mr. SCRIVN'ER. Mr. Chairman, will these bases are over the world. It is a kind of combination of foreign aid the gentleman yield? Mr. MAHON. Correct. That is the and military aid. The Program in Mr. MAHON. I yield to the gentle- reason we are providing the funds. I Spain calls for the expenditure of $827 man from Kan.ias. think even If the program blows up million. About half of that is for the Mr. SCRIVIKE.R. In other words, we eventually it has perhaps alrleady been bases and about half is for economic aid are in these various countries as a guest worth the money. But, I am convinced it of one kind or another. We are in the of these countries and not as an occupy- will not blow up in the near future. midst of that program, We are con- mg, victorious group, so that, being Mr. BOW. Mr. Chairman, will the strutting 4 big bases. Some addi- guests, any time our hosts find that they gentleman yield? tional bases are on the schedule for fu- do not want us in the house any more, Mr, MAIHON. I yield. ture consideration. they can do to us just as we would to Mr. BOW. I notice on page 33 of the We have in this bill for Spain $37 mil- guests in our own home, ask them kindly report, there are three items that I think lion. We have already spent on the to make their departure, should be explained. They are as fol- program there for air bases-American Mr. MAHON. That is correct. lows: Air Force Bases-$127 million. That is, I do not believe this matter has here- we have made those funds available. tofore been presented in as brutal and Various T locations, ______________ $1, 240, 000 The Navy has a program in Spain In factual a way in the House in general Aircraft control dnw rnin____ 8, 250,000 g___ 148,458,000 excess of $30 million. So we have a debate as the :ituation really warrants. very large program there. The late and Mr. HALEY. Mr. Chairman, will the I would like to ask the distinguished able Admiral Sherman originally nego- gentleman yield? gentleman from Texas whether or not tiated for those bases. It was necessary Mr. MAHON. I yield to the gentle- this appropriation in these amounts to get bases in Spain, which are very im- man from Flor_da, means that the military now is setting portant to us. and to do that it was nee- Mr. HALEY. Would it not be a fair up their own airways and the operation essary for our Government to make cer- statement to sa:i that the committee and of their own airways. tain economic concessions and advances the Congress as a whole must follow the Mr. MAIHON. I would say to the in order to raise the economic standard advice of the people who have the re- gentleman that this is not in conflict of the people of Spain. So, as I say, that sponsibility for the defense of this coun- with the agreement between Civil Aero- is an $800 million program. try? That is as far as we can go. nautics and the military as to the phas- Here is another very big progyoram. Mr. MAIION. I think we need to re- ing in of different control programs the cost figure will almost shock u, if ceive their advice, consider their advice within this country. Some of these we can be shocked any more by big fig- and, if we differ with them, argue about stations are set up for classification pur- ures. In Alaska, since 1950. we have it with them. Then, if we are posi- poses. There is secrecy involved in some provided $900 million in funds for the tively sure they are wrong and we have of these operations around the world and Army, Navy and Air Force, just short of the better proposal, I think it is up to there are difficulties in setting forth the $1 billion. us to propose it because I think we do whole picture. For our worldwide radar network, the have a definite responsibility. Mr. BOW. Can the gentleman say radar fence, the DEW line, the Pine Tree The CHAIRMAN. The time of the whether or not the military is now adopt- line and other lines for radar to detect gentleman from Texas has expired. ing TACAN as their distance measuring the approach of the enemy to an overseas Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman. I yield instrument as against the VOR, DME base or to an American city or industrial 2 minutes to the gentleman from Texas. used by civilian aircraft? in pre ex we bills provide of $79G l lslland the SPRINGER. Eie.d Mt. Chairman, will Mr. MAHON. I think they are in the TACAN program a very sizable program. Mr. MAHON. I yield to the process of adopting the gentle- over a a period of years. . I think it comes We have gone into great detail from man from Illincis? out of an agreement which has been time to time as to the tenure on our over- Mr. SPRINGER. May I ask the dis- reached with the CAA and with the De- seas bases. We would like to have iron- tinguished gentleman from Texas this partment of Defense. Insofar as we clad assurances that we can stay on them one question to bring this all up in a were able to determine in our hearings as long as we want to, but those are free bundle. We have only one potential ag- this year, there is no longer any contro- countries and we cannot get that as- gressor. What we have done in effect is versy with regard to that question. surance. to bring those bases in a sort of a semi- Mr. HOW. Do we understand that I mentioned that in connection with circle around that potential aggressor, there is nothing in this that will establish NATO the tenure is for a 20-year period starting in Alaska and going through a separate airways for the military in Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approv CONGRESSIONAL /RECORDA-F5fD245R000100200006-2 11359 1956 this country and that they will lie con- tee for funding approval in connection trolled by the CAA? with the 1957 program and those which Mr. MAHON. The gentleman is ab- have been approved in the past, but not solutely correct in that statement. yet funded, amounts to $636,764,700. Mr. BOW. So that we will have no The committee feels that the difference confusion in the air between the two between this program and the total funds agencies? available for construction was entirely Mr. MAHON. The gentleman is cor- too great. Therefore the Department of rect. the Navy was requested to analyze its Finally, Mr. Chairman, I would like to overall program and submit to the com- submit a brief summary as to construe- mittee a priority list containing all of tion funds provided in the pending bill the items in this program listed in order for Army, Navy, and Air Force. Before of their essentiality. Using this prior- doing so perhaps I should point. out that ity list the committee has approved a in the regular military appropriations funding program of $541,318,700, a pro- bill which I presented to the House gram approximately 20 percent greater earlier this-year approximately $34.5 than the total available funds of ap- oillion were provided for the general proximately $451 million which includes overall program for the Department of $51 million of unobligated balances from Defense, exclusive of military construe- prior year appropriations. Specific de- cion. In the bill now before us the total tails of the committee action will be value of new programs submitted to the found in the committee report. committee by the three services was esti- In considering the military construc- mated at $2,967,000,000, divided as fol- tion estimates, the committee did ' not lows: Army, $351 million; Navy, $445- have available the conference report on million; Air Force, $2,161,000,000. the military construction authorization The appropriations requested to bill. finance the above programs are as fol- The bill as reported by the committee lows: Army, $193 million; Navy, $400 is based generally upon the military con- million; Air Force, $1,228,000,000. Of struction authorization bill as passed by this total of $1,826,000,000, the amount the House of Representatives. Subse- of $785 million was recommended to be quent to reporting this bill to the House, derived by transfer from other funds the conference report on the authoriza- previously made available to the services. tion bill has been agreed upon by the . The committee has approved for fund- House and Senate conferees. This has ing a total program of approximately resulted in the deletion from the au- $2,305,000,000, or a reduction of $662 mil- thorization bill of funds for certain Navy lion most of which is applied to the Air housing at the Naval Observatory in Force. Washington. Since this item was in- The full amount of the budget esti- eluded fn the authorization bill as passed mate, $1,826,450,000, was approved by the the House, and was given high priority committee, except that the amount of by the Navy, the committee approved $428 million, rather than $785 million, the project in the overall construction is to be derived by transfer. The com- program set forth in the report accom- mittee felt that instead of a proposed panying the supplemental appropriation transfer of $357 million from the Army bill. Inasmuch as there is now no au- stock fund to the Air Force for construe- thority for this construction, I take this tion purposes, a better and more clean- opportunity to inform the House that cut procedure would be to make a direct this item is accordingly stricken from appropriation, which was done. How- the approved program as set forth in the ever, this action will have no effect on the committee report on page 22, and from United States Treasury, because at the section 307 (b) on page 9 of the bill. same time the committee recommends a Mr. CANNON. Mr. Chairman, I have rescission of $357 million in the Army just been handed an excerpt from the stock fund. editorial page of this afternoon's Wash- The total appropriation of $1,398,450,- ington News which has just reached the 000 included in the bill will be augmented newsstands., There is an editorial here by an estimated unobligated balance of castigating the gentleman from New $873 million, making a total of $2,699,- York [Mr. TABER] and me.because, as it 150,000 available for obligation in fiscal intimates, we have sabotaged legislation year 1957. which would save $4 billion a year. The As to expenditures 1957, the be ap- total News has brought this matter up at a availability for this purpose will time when both of us are recipients of a teby $4,526,000,000. Of this flood of letters from responsible busi- mount, approximately $2,700,000,000 nessmen all over the country asking us epresents unexpended balances as of why we are not willing to save $4 bil- bil- une Mr. SHEPPARD. 95EPPARD. Mr. Chairman, the lion a year? 'It is a very natural and Mr. question. ;ommittee has approved the budget esti- Four, billion dollars is an enormous note of $400 million for the public-works amout of money. Its purchasing power grogram of the Department of the Navy is so great that the finite mind of man ` fiscal year This provides new for cannot begin to comprehend its vast ex- Appropriations of of $ $165 million n in money and $200 million to be derived by tent. transfer from the Navy stock fund and But the long and distinguished record $35 million from the Marine Corps stock of the gentleman from New York, is suf- .und. ficient guaranty that if it was possible The military public-works program of to save that amount of money he would he Department of the Navy, including save it. And that is true notwithstand- hose projects presented to the commit- ing his efforts to increase administra- tion expenditures these last few weeks for purposes he formerly opposed. Incidentally I have saved some billions myself including $64 billion at one time. Either of us would be glad to take advantage of the opportunity to save that amount of money. But of course there- is no such oppor- tunity. The assertion that we could save $4 billion annually is absurd. It is the most fantastic statement that could possibly be made. After it had been circulated through the press of the country, we had the Director of the Budget, Mr. Brundage, before a subcom- mittee of the Committee on Appropria- tions and I asked him how we could save $4 billion a year or how any agency of Congress could save $4 billion a year by the enactment of legislation or the adoption of any recommendations that might be made to us along the lines so widely publicized. He said-and I quote from page .848 of the hearings, part 2, supplemental appropriations bill, 1957--he could not make any estimate because, as he said, it was too intangible. Then he closed by saying: "I feel satisfied that we will save several million dollars." I said to him, "Several million?" He said, "Yes." Then I said, "There is a great difference between several million and the $4 billion advertised." In short, he did not assure us that he could save $1 million, much less $4 bil- lion, and at no time was he willing to say positively that he could assure us he could save any specific amount by the use of any device or the adoption of any Hoover Commission recommendation, and this is the Director of the Budget talking. Then the testimony began to assume a very familiar trend. The gentleman from New York [Mr. TABER] has been here a long time, and I have been here with him. Practically every year some department comes up telling us, "We can save a lot of money. Give us an extra amount in our appropriation and we will have millions." Sure enough, Mr. Brundage began to tell us he would make large savings and asked us for more money in his appro- priation. He wanted $405,000 more than he had this year in order to save some- thing. He did not say how much. We gave him $375,000 for extra per- sonnel in the Bureau of the Budget, with the hope that he really could save some- thing. But frankly, I have little hope of getting material results. I am going to include in the RECORD at this time an excerpt from page 41 of the report. It is as follows: ESTIMATED SAVINGS The committee wishes to point out, in passing, the dangers of arbitrary and un- founded assumptions as to the value of re- visions in financial management and ac- counting systems per se. The Commission on Organization of the E cecutive Branch of the Government quoted its task force claim- ing savings from improved financial man- agement-to amount, to $4 billion. Many well intentioned persons, corporations, and associations have spent much time and money bombarding the Congress and the public to effect these savings. No witness appeared before the committee during con- Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 11360 Approved For ReI~TQ$(Af~100 0100200006-2 Jid y 12 sideration of the 1957 budget request to cific purpose They lull us into a sense approval of the three panels of the point out, nor could the Director of the Bu- of security by explaining plausibly that Armed Service Subcommittee. reau of the Budget at the present hearing identify, any part of these savings. It is they are not asking for an appropriation, They come to you also with the unan- preposterous to assert that a mere change merely an authorization. And on that imous approval of the subcommittee as in recordkeeping, unaccompanied by specific account we are not so meticulous in a whole and, as far as I know, with, the reductions in appropriations, can result in screening the proposition. unanimous approval of the full com- any appreciable savings, let alone such a Armed with contract authority, and mittee. vast sum as 44 billion. without particularly adequate considera- I shall, therefore, make no extended The committee is fearful that forcing the tion, they ccntract to spend enormous statement. entire Federal fiscal structure to the accrued sums of money, and when we come back The committee has gone into the sit- expenditure concept or appropriating Is a next year and find an appalling bill cation with professional accountant's dream that may awaiting us and begin to go into the de- great ncee. It has realized well become the taxpayer's nightmare. In the vital importance of this program approving 4375,000 of the pending estimate tails they say: "This is an incurred li- particularly in the light of new devel- for the Bureau, the committee is therefore ability, you authorized this contract. It opments in weapons. approving the strengthening of the staff of has been car'; icd cut. There is nothing It has realized that the overall pro- the Bureau of the Budget, but without sub- to do but appropriate the money to pay gram cannot be completed in a short scribing to the recommendations of the for it." time, that it will require a number of Commission on Organization of the Execu- It is the most reprehensible form of years for completion. Live Branch of the Government in their appropriation legislation, the most dan- After careful consideration it has rec- entirety. ._~ I yield to the gentleman from New the United States Treasury there is. quested by the Bureau of the Budget for York. 'Ihe gentleman from New York opposes this program in fiscal 1957; namely, $1,- Mr. TABER. Mr. Brundage claims it and I oppo:;e it. 041,450,000 of new money net. he could save several million dollars in Mr. MAHON. Mr. Chairman. will the Mr. PELLY. Mr. Chairman, will the connection with the new funds he was gentleman yield? gentleman yield? getting, without any legislation. This Mr. CANNON. I yield to the gentle- Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. I yield to editorial denounced the gentleman and man from Texas. the gentleman from Washington. it denounced me because we were opposed Mr. MAHON. The hearings to which Mr. PELLY. I wonder if the gentle- to insertion in the bill that was before the gentleman from New York and the man can reconcile his statement that the Committee on Government Opera- chairman of the committee are referring the committee is granting all money re- tions a provision to reestablish and re- were held before the committee presided quested with the statement that I find quire the Congress to operate on the basis over by the gentleman from Alabama in the report on pages 20 and 21 regard- of contract authorization instead of ap- I Mr. ANDREWS I. In view of the fact that ing certain projects which are justified propriation of funds. The appropriation some of our constituents have been led by the committee as being immediately of funds brings before the Congress the to believe that by some little change essential to the Navy, while it appears exact amount that the projects will cost here in Congress we could save S4 billion, to me there are $200 million which has to completion. Contract authorization I think it would be good if all Members not been granted toward essential naval brings before the Congress only the ini- could get a CoPy of the hearings and programs. tial amount. When you have a contract read them carefully. Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. The gentle- authorization, perhaps 1 percent of the I sat through all the hearinks with man is perhaps confusing the amount of total which the thing is going to cost the other members of the subcommittee funds which the committee recommends will be included, and you can get It and listened to Mr. Brundage, Director be made available with the value of the through the Congress much easier than of the Bureau of the Budget. He could projects which it has approved as a fiscal you can a big project which will cost a not pinpoint the saving of any money. 1957 program for the respective depart- billion dollars or $600,000,000, or some- To try to foist upon the American pro- ments. thing like that. That is the kind of pie this cruel hoax, that Congress could Mr. PELLY. Did the Bureau of the thing that they tried to fasten on us. save the huge sum of $4 billion by a Budget not request any more than the You and I both opposed that sort of thing slight change in language Is utterly amount allowed by the committee? before the Committee on Government ridiculous and absurd. This hoax ought Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. So far as Operations, and the Government Opera- to be exposed on the floor for what it new funds are concerned, the amount tions Committee saw that it was in the really is, and I would like to commend recommended is 100 percent of the interest of the Government to refuse to the gentleman from Missouri and the budget request. use the contract authorization business. gentleman from New York for their posi- It has been the practice in recent Mr. THOMAS. Mr. Chairman, will Lion in this instance, which I think is years however, to request approval of the gentleman yield? absolutely cor-ect. a far larger total in projects than the Mr. CANNON. I yield to the gentle- Mr. CANNON. Mr. Chairman, I ask dollars requested for application to proj- man from Texas. unanimous consent to revise and extend ects in any given year. Mr_ THOMAS. Of course, the criti- my remarks and include the excerpts Mr. PELLY. The ceiling then of $451 cism of the gentleman from New York to which I made reference. million for naval facilities was put in by I Mr. TABEa 1 and the gentleman from The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection the Bureau of the Budget and not by the Missouri I Mr. CANNONI, I think, was cer- to the request; of the gentleman from committee? tainly out of line and unfounded. The Missouri? Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. That is cor- argument all boils down to the simple There was no objection. rect. proposition, if you do what they ask you Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I yield Mr. PELLY. I do not want to take the to do you are giving them. in truth to the gentleman from Michigan for a gentleman's time if he is going to be and in effect, the departments down- consent request. short of time; but I do appreciate his town, a blank check, because you give (Mr. HOFPVIAN of Michigan asked information on this because I am greatly them the power to bind the Government and was given permission to revise and concerned that many of the projects by contract. There must be a payday extend his remarks just made.) left out are essential ones. later. Is not that about the situation? Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I yield speaking, the naL as program inBwhich Mr. CANNON. Definitely. 5 minutes to the gentleman from Mas- Mr. TABER. And it will cost a lot sachusetts lMr. WIGGLESWOBTIiI. the gentleman is interested calls for an more money. (Mr. WIGGL.ESWORTH asked and appropriation of $451 million in 1957 to Mr. THOMAS. It is bound to; there was given applied projects aggregating i the permission to revise and ex- total about t $541541,,3 318,700. In other is no escape from it. tend his remarks.) words, there is a 20 percent leeway or Mr. CANNON. Supplementing what Mr. WIGGLESWORTH. Mr. Chair- elasticity provided for, in the discretion the gentleman from New York has said, man, the recommendations in chapter of the Department, but the new funds the departments ask Congress for con- III with respect to the Army, Navy, and recommended, as I have stated, are 100 tract authority; that is, authority to go Air Force m-litany-construction pro- percent of the total requested by the out and make contracts for some spe- grams come to you with the unanimous Bureau of the Budget. Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approved g JJM%8InC@ DP#U 45R000100200006-2 11361 Similarly if we look at the whole pro- gram here-Army, Navy, and Air Force- which, of course, has been thoroughly screened, not only by the Committee on Armed Services but by the Appropria- tions Committee, you will find that the projects in respect to which the 1957 money may be applied aggregate about $2,305,000,000, representing a decrease as the result of screening from a figure of about $2,967,000,000. The overall result is that you have all the new funds requested, and a. total of $1,041,450,000 net, for application against projects aggregating about $2,305,000,000, in the discretion of the several departments. Section 309, about which some discus- sion has been had on the floor, is designed to speed up the program and to preserve the elasticity insofar as the De- partment of Defense and the Bureau of the Budget are concerned. Mr. PELLY. My concern is due to the fact we have just discussed the foreign air bases. I look upon our aircraft car- riers as mobile bases. In case we lose any of the foreign bases we will have to look to the aircraft carrier. Now, on the west coast we have no facilities for re- pairing battle damage on a modern air- craft carrier. The drydock facilities are not large enough. As I understand, this is a ceiling on the amount that is allowed on these justified and essential facilities for the Navy, and would not allow -for any planning funds for a large drydock, which takes 5 years, from the time that planning funds are appropriated, to complete. Mr. WIGGLESWORTH, I will say to the gentleman that the approved proj- ects, as distinguished from funds, insofar as the Navy is concerned, follow exactly a priority list submitted to the commit- tee by the Navy Department. As far as planning funds are con- cerned, I think and I hope-the chairman of the subcommittee, the gentleman from California [Mr. SHEPPARD], will cor- rect me if I am wrong-there is a segre- gation of these funds which could make available the necessary funds for plan- ning such a project as you have in mind, even though the project itself might trot be sufficiently high on the priority list to warrant starting construction. Mr. Chairman, I assume that the de- tails of chapter 3 will be taken up under the 5-minute rule. I have no further general comments except to express the hope that the recommendations of the committee will be approved. Mr. CANNON. Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman. from Penn- sylvania [Mr. FLOOD]. (Mr. FLYNT asked and was given per- mission to extend his remarks in the RECORD following Mr. FLOOD.) Mr. FLOOD. Mr. Chairman, this seems to be my Support-the-President Week, earlier this week on the foreign- aid bill and now to support his request for $37.5 million to build a second na- tional airport at Burke, Va. Because of the parliamentary situation and the tac- tical situation again, -similar to yester- day,,I am not going to introduce here in the House the necessary amendment to this supplemental appropriation bill. I have discussed this matter with the dis- tinguished leaders in the other body who are concerned with this matter, as am I; the Senators dealing with the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce and the subcommittee dealing with aviation matters. They have indicated that un- der all the circumstances they feel it would best be done this way. I have discussed the matter with the gentleman from Georgia [Mr. PRESTON], chairman of the Subcommittee on the Department of Commerce, which includes the CAA, and he is of the opinion with me. Now, Mr. Chairman, there is no sense in burdening this committee with the situation dealing with our safety at the National Airport here. It has gotten to the point of saturation for several years. The near misses, the close problems we have had for years are of record for all who wish to read, and you have all read about. I have no interest in the Burke airport one way or the other except as I have told you for years on this problem I have a high regard for the gentleman from Pennsylvania who is now talking to you and his neck and I also have great love and affection for all of you, my brothers in the ,House, who use the Na- tional Airport. It is a menace and it is a hazard; it is a death trap and it has been for years. Now, all the technicians who know this problem, the Secretary of Commerce, the Commission of the Pres- ident of the United States which re- ported to him in December, all favor this new airport at Burke, Va. I must resist this opposition of the delegation from Maryland and a few men from Virginia, like my friend [Mr. BROYHILL] who is nearby. If I represented that district, I would be upset about it, too. But the sum total of these parochial nearby sub- urban interests cannot match the gen- eral national welfare and the general safety of the hundreds of thousands of people who come in and out of Washing- ton National Airport. I am not going to burden you with tell- ing you how many minutes it takes to go to this place and how many to go to that place. We have been through that for years. I have taken these trips in cabs; I have gone with newspaper and radio men; I have traveled in the limousines from the Mayflower and from the Stat- ler; I have gone in private cars and in my own car. "You pays your money, and you takes your choice" on how long it takes to get from here to there. You can get any kind of figures that you want. There is that white elephant that our good friend Tommy D'Alesandro, who used to be in this House, gave birth to out at Friendship. The people who know, the air transport people who run the airlines, and the pilots who fly the planes and the Commission appointed by the President of the United States, the Secretary of Commerce, and now the President him- self, who sends up to this Congress a re- quest to appropriate the money to begin the construction of this new airport at Burke, Va., have told you what are the facts. I am on the side of the angels on this at this time; it could be otherwise in a crash at National Airport. I hope the House will not wait until there is a terrible tragedy and hundreds of people are killed by crashes over this overburdened airport, now the National Airport. Ypu should meet this issue. I . am not going to introduce this amendment. I am advised by distin- guished Members of the other body from these contiguous, adjacent States to which a great many Yankees from New York have come and bought horse farms, that they are going to be upset by air- planes.. That leaves me cold. And while I have love and affection for the gentle- man from Maryland [Mr. LANKFORD] and the gentleman from Virginia [Mr. BROY- HILL], the distinguished Senator from Virginia, Mr. ROBERTSON, and all these great leaders and great Senators and great Representatives, "That has noth- ing to do with the case tra la," as far as the rest of the United States is concerned. Mr. LANKFORD. Mr. Chairman, would the gentleman yield? Mr. FLOOD. Now I yield to my friend from Maryland. 'Mr. LANKFORD. I should like to ad- vise the gentleman from Pennsylvania that I have as much regard for his neck as I have for my own. I am not going to burden him or the Members with how many minutes it takes to go from this place to that or the other, but I wonder if the gentleman realizes that within ?a 13-mile area of Burke, there are 6 major airports and 5 minor ones. And I won- der if the construction of the airport at Burke would relieve this congestion which is paramount in our minds today. Mr. FLOOD. The technicians and the experts have decided. The President has resolved this controversy and asked funds for Burke, Va. I am. not going to substitute the opinion of-my friends from Virginia and Maryland for theirs. The overwhelming, disinterested, informal, and the best opinion declares for a new national airport at Burke, Va. We have delayed overlong; further delay would amount to gross negligence. Mr. FLYNT. Mr. Chairman, It was with particular interest that I listened to the remarks of the distinguished gen- tleman from Pennsylvania in announc- ing to the committee that he would noj; introduce his amendment to the supple- mental appropriation bill, H. R. 12138, for the purpose of including in the ap- propriation+for the building and com- pletion of a metropolitan Washington airport to be located at Burke, Va. I especially noted that the gentleman from Pennsylvania is nonetheless en- thusiastic about the Burke airport site, but that he apparently feels that such an amendment will stand a better chance of adoption and inclusion in the bill in the other body than it would here. Let me commend my distinguished colleague for his interest in this particu- lar question, for he is probably as well informed on the particular subject as any Member ;of this body. I know that his support of the Burke airport site stems from motives of air safety and convenience just as my opposition to the Burke airport site has its origin in these same high motives. Therefore, I regret that he saw fit to withhold his amendment from consid- eration by this body because I think that full and ample time should be allowed Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 11362 Approved For P., l 42 ; 1 1 3T( fiMRQ00100200006-2 July 12 to this House to debate the advantages and disadvantages of the Burke site. We all know that in the limited time allowed that this subject cannot be properly discussed if and when it reaches us in the form of a conference report. Therefore, it is my desire and my pur- pose at this time to outline to you some of the reasons dealing primarily with air safety, why I am very strongly opposed to the development of the Burke airport site as a major airport facility to serve metropolitan Washington. As some you may know, I have just returned, along with eight other Mem- bers of this body, from an extensive in- quiry into the facts surrounding the re- cent major air tragedy which apparently took place in mid-air over Grand Can- yon. Let us bear in mind that there is absolutely no similarity between the area over Grand Canyon where air traffic is very slight, and the metropolitan area of Washington, where the air traffic den- sity is almost as heavy as In any part of the United States. The committee which investigated the Grand Canyon disaster Is not yet ready to announce any conclusions because in all probabil- ity we will take considerably more testi- mony. However, the findings of fact which are thus far undisputed Indicate clearly the need for utmost caution in future planning and development of air safety regulations. With the testimony which we heard last week still fresh in my mind, I wish to inform this body that I am of the firm opinion and belief that the installation of a major airport at Burke, Va., within a small radius circle from the present Washington Na- tional Airport, would intensify air haz- ards much more than would be the case if no additional major airport facility for metropolitan Washington were planned. This is not to say that a properly plan- ned and located airport facility would not provide greater safety, but I think extreme thought should be given and ex- treme caution should be exercised in de- termining exactly where this new airport facility should be located. The Burke site would, in my opinion, be especially dangerous because it would add to the existing local airport con- gestion not only additional flights, in- cluding takeoffs and landing in this area, but it would necessitate a third major air traffic pattern within an 11 i/s mile circle, which would cause many planes from one traffic pattern to properly or inadvertently enter into another traffic pattern under what is known as "hold- inn conditions." Please bear in mind that within the 111/2 mile circle to which I refer would be located the Washington National Airport, Bolling Air Force Base, Anacostia Naval Air Station, Andrews Air Force Base and, if authorized and completed, the new airport site at Burke, Va., not to mention at least two private airports within the same circle, and also Davison Army Air Field at Fort Belvoir, Va., which is accommodating more and more air traffic each month. It seems to me to be absolutely fool- hardy and extremely dangerous to add another major airport to what is already perhaps the most congested air traiiio area of similar size anywhere in America. We all realiza the desirability of re- moving part of the present air traffic con- gestion from this 111'2 mile circle to which I have just referred, but let me tell you as strongly as I can that the building of Burke airport is not the answer. Instead of eliminating air hazards it would- probably create perhaps the greatest single air hazard existing anywhere in America. Let us now turn to an alternative prop- osition and let ine say that except for a desire to provide the greatest possible air safety I have no preference either way between the proposed Burke site and the Friendship, Md., airport site. If I thought for one second that Burke would provide even an infinitestimal bit more air safety than the Friendship Airport would provide, glen I would be coming to the support of the gentleman from Penn- sylvania and championing his espousal of the Burke site, but as I see it, after a careful and exhaustive study, I am con- vinced that converting Friendship In- ternational Airport into the second major Washington area airport would provide infinitely more air safety and equally as much convenience to the Nation's Capital, its residents and its visitors. I wish that every Member of this body could already have personally visited and inspected the facilities of Friendship Air- port. The best way I know to describe it is to say that it is the equal of any in America in phyciical facilities, including runways, taxi strips, aprons, ramps and terminal facilities. It can probably be best described a,i saying it is a first class airport accommodating second class traf- fic density. The Friendship Airport is well beyond the 1112-mile circle to which I have re- peatedly referred. It is out of the pres- ent danger zone, so far as the creation of a new major air traffic pattern is con- cerned. I am informed that the traffic pattern of Friendship Airport does not conflict under any existing conditions with the traffic patterns of either Wash- ington National Airport, Andrews Air Force Base, Bolling Air Force Base. Anacostia Naval Air Station, Davison Army Air Field, or either of the two pri- vate airports which are located in Vir- ginia within the 1112-mile circle. Therefore, no new traffic pattern would be created, because Friendship has an existing air traffic pattern which does not in any way conflict with or in- terfere with either of the other air traf- fic patterns in what we refer to as the Washington metropolitan area. The runway facilities at Friendship International Airport are already capa- ble of accommodating any existing com- mercial airline sircraft, and we are re- liably Informed that the runways at Friendship can and will accommodate by 1959 jet air transports of the DC-8 and 707 types of commercial aircraft. We have a ready-made solution to the problem of relieving the congestion at Washington National Airport and in the airspace over the metropolitan area of Washington, D. C. That is by converting Friendship International Airport into the second major airport to accommo- date commercial aircraft serving the Washington metropolitan area. By diverting a substantial portion of the present traffic of Washington Na- tional Airport to Friendship Airport a large portion of the air traffic congestion now existing over Washington can be and will be eliminated; whereas the de- velopment of the Burke Airport site, while eliminating takeoffs and landings at Washington National Airport, will not only fail to eliminate air traffic conges- tion in the airspace over metropolitan Washington, it will actually increase both the air traffic density in the air- space over Washington and increase the air hazard over Washington, because it can be assumed that when the second major airport serving metropolitan Washington is placed into operation that the flights into and out of this area will substantially increase. Let me now come to another reason why the Friendship site is much to be preferred over the Burke Airport site. The residents of Maryland and the area adjoining Friendship, together with most, If not all, public officials in that area not only have no objection to converting Friendship into the second major air- port serving the Washington metropoli- tan area, but they actually want it; and I believe that this will possibly be re- flected by questions asked of or confer- ences with the representatives of that general area. On the other hand, the residents, public officials, and Members of Congress who are directly concerned with the Burke, Va., site are almost unanimously, if not unanimously, op- posed to the authorization and comple- tion of a major airport at the Burke, Va., site. If the Maryland officials and the Vir- ginia officials were not in accord and if both wanted the new facility or if both did not want the new facility, then I think that this body could properly and appropriately disregard the views of either and both. On the other hand, when the Virginia public officials and the Maryland public officials appear to be in complete accord that both prefer the Friendship site and that neither prefer the Burke, Va., site, then I think we who reside in and represent other areas can well afford to listen to their considered judgment and respect their mature and well-considered opinions on this subject. I am sure that you will be interested to know that in December of 1955 the Commerce Department submitted to a subcommittee of the other body a report relative to the selection of a site for the supplemental airport for Washington. That report discussed in detail the vari- ous sites that had been considered, among others being the site known as Annandale, Va. The Annandale site is located 31,z miles northeast of the pro- posed Burke Airport site. I am of the firm and considered opin- ion that the construction of an airport at Burke, Va., would add to the con- gested air traffic in the metropolitan area, and this is further borne out by the statement made by the Commerce Department in its report. As I have just stated, Annandale is located 3',2 miles Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approve % J kJ8/1J-Jr@I DP9U45R000100200006-2 11363 1956 from the Burke site, and in discussing under the FHA and VA policies in exist- soldier could pick up and go and come as the Annandale site the Commerce\De- ence at the present time, they have re- the exigencies of the service required. partment pointed out that an airport fused to insure mortgages within the That is no longer true. Even the would, at that location, interfere with so-called approach zones around major youngest enlisted man, for the most part, the operation of Washington National airports for a distance of 21/2 miles from is a married man and you must have a Airport under extreme flying conditions the end of the runways in triangular or suitable place for him in which to live to the extent of 30 percent, and the con- fan-shaped a 6,0 , starting If this t he ex- with his Pais a requirement. It is a fac-treme tidnration of its proximity reduce the were followed at Burke, it would kill the tor in reenlistment, but I would point con National Airport would reduce the at Annandale 60 percent. use for residential purposes about 5,000 out to the services that it does no good apacity They also airport at An- acres, in addition to the land taken for if we provide many, many more units of nand lewoustated ld interfere uld that th the o r. the airport itself. We have no assurance, housing if the men do not have the op- tions e s Aiwith the opera- however, that with the coming of jet portunity to live in those houses with Washington Nn National Air Force Airport. It Base and seems planes that this policy will continue. As their families. haelieve that a separation of 31/2 a matter of fact, in San Diego, surround- During the hearings I called the at- rd to believe o b miles would cure this contention to any ing Miramar Field, the FHA has refused tention of the officers of the Air Force extent. to guarantee mortgages as late as March to one young man who is the very type Since the tentative selection of Burke of this year within a radius of 20,000 of man we and they want to keep, a fine Airport as a site in June of 1951, there feet, or 3.7 miles from the airport. If youngster, a highly trained and very has been a great deal of development this policy were followed at Burke, it capable pilot. He loves the Air Force around that area, particularly to the would kill the use of several thousands and he loves the B-47 that he piloted, of acres of land in already developed But he is not staying in the service. As north and east. At the time the site was sections. a matter of fact, he is already out. selected, the CAA pfor orthea that the Mr. Chairman, let me urge that this The armed services will tell you these dominant runway. for north and south body fully acquaint itself with the re- military men are going out to take jobs east of north, would s pointed 18 ow thee spective advantages and disadvantages in private industry at much higher east of north, which would throw th of the Burke site and the Friendship wages. That is true, only in part. This approaches east the town of Fairfax, site, so that if this matter should come young man went out and took a job with ha. Since that time, htweveo, the CAA back to us in the form of a conference private industry at considerably less has found necessary to relocate these report and the decision is to be made by than he was earning as a B-4.7 pilot. I runways, and they are now planned to this Congress on the relative merits of was surprised when I heard about his run directly north and south, which the Burke, Va., airport site and the service termination because I knew of makes the he westernmost runway of these Friendship, Md., airport, that this body his love for the Air Force. The reason rec north and sn of rfarunways The point town wn would and shall vote down any confer- he gave was simply that in the last year tly of F to the town of miles report to a supplemental appro- as a B-47 pilot although there was hous- of is . 2,62 I miles from the edge priations bill which will include funds ing available-sure, they have it-he ar the aitprt ? In this approach zone for a major airport at Burke, Va. could only be home with his wife fewer te located several schools, several Let me caution you that a vote to than 30 days out, of the entire year. churches, and the county olcy courthouse e authorize the construction of a major That housing does not do any good if building, to say nothing of the enormous airport at Burke, Va., within the 111/2 the services do not change some of these Since the tenon of Bt in this area. mile circle to which I have repeatedly programs and permit these men to have Since the selection of Burke pa. site referred, will in my opinion be a vote a little more stabilization in their lives. in 1951, the Fairfax County po popululation against air safety in this area and might Mr. POFF. Mr. Chairman, will the has increased from 98,000 to approxi- even be a vote in favor of increased air gentleman yield? mately 175,000, and a great deal of this Mr. SCRIVNER. I yield to the gentle- development being in the area east and hazards, regardless of the high motives man from Virginia. north of the Burke Airport site, mainly of those who sponsor and advocate the Mr. POFF. I wish to associate myself proposed Burke airport site. with the remarks the gentleman is mak- Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I yield in npddititioonn, , the and Board o r of Supervisors areas. In a addid 10 minutes to the gentleman from Kan- ing. I have had several letters from of Fairfax County has in the meantime sas iMr. SCRIVNERL servicemen both at home and abroad made provisions for and supplied sewers (Mr. SCRIVNER asked and was given who are primarily concerned about their for a great deal of the area which, of permission to revise and extend his re- careers for this one reason. Will any course, is designed for increased use. marks.) of these 84,000 housing units be placed Repeating some portions of what I at overseas bhave previously said, an examination of Mr. SCRIVNERZ. Mr. Chairman, pri- Mr. SCRIVNER. overseas bases? ase Some of them go a map will readily show that if the marily under chapter III you are being overseas, yes. Burke Airport were constructed, you asked to appropriate almost $11/2 billion Mr. POFF. I thank the gentleman. would then have 5 major airports lo- for military construction That is fif- Mr. SCRIVNER. As the gentleman cated within a radius of 111/2 miles, teen hundred million dollars. A great from Texas pointed out, we have some namely Andrews Air Force Base, Ana- portion of that goes to operational bases rather difficult situations overseas. costia, Naval Air Station, Bolling Air that you must have if the Air Force is Some of the housing will of necessity Force Base, Washington National Air- going to fly their planes and if the Army have to be trailers, but I have been in port, and Burke. In addition, in this is going to train, and the Navy to oper- those trailers. Of course, it was some same radius there are located 2 small ate. 35 years ago, when my wife and I were flying fields, Washington-Virginia at We are moving now into a series of first married, but if we could have had Baileys Cross Roads, and Falls Church expanded bases for the B-52's which quarters as modern and as comfortable Airport near Falls Church. There is also require greater runways, and different as those trailers are we would have been located a 4,800 foot landing strip at Fort types of maintenance facilities. There two very pleased young people, who were Belvoir, known as Davison Army Air is also the matter of fuelling systems nevertheless quite happy in some rather Field, the use of which is constantly in- and many other construction items, all humble quarters. creasing. of which cost a great deal of money. Another subject that has been dis- Another matter which gives the people One portion of this relates to housing cussed, and we mentioned it on page 10 in Fairfax County grave concern is the for our military, and their dependents. of the committee report, relates to the depreciation of property values by rea- Over $100 million will be provided in this guided missiles. The men who are be- son of the location of a major airport in bill for approximately 85,000 housing hind these various projects feel that these are the real answers. This is natu- this site. While it is admitted that the units. aa?ea actually taken for the airport is The Army, as some of us older men ral. If they did not have that enthu- at, this time undeveloped to any great knew it, was considerably different from siasm they would not be worth their salt extent, the areas surrounding the site today's Army. It used to be considered on the job. We had some witnesses be- a e In the process of rapid development. primarily a single man's Army. The fore us, and many of them told us how Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 11361 Approved For ReI1R9_Q4t@tE. C##(P ,(Qffi3T0W00100200006-2 July 12 fine Nike is-and Nike is good and will gentleman from Texas [Mr. MAHONI with the salaries of the interns in the do a good job-and others came In to mentioned, the only other alternative other hospitals. tell us how wonderful Taros is and will would be by force of arms to stay. Of Mr. RABAUT. I do not think the be-and Taros will do a good job. We course, we are not going to do that. As gentleman need worry about the salaries. did not ask, as some have reported, that tenuous as our tenancy may be, those I refer the gentleman to page 63 of the we have you might call a "duel" between bases are an essential element in our report: Taros and Nike. Most of the presenta- defense and the construction should be Testimony was presented to the committee tions on these items have been made by financed by these appropriations, as rec- that an increase in the salary schedule would the advocates, those men who have ommended by the committee, aid in recruitln.^, interns and residents at worked with that weapon, perhaps a Mr. Chairman, unless there are some the District of Columbia General Hospital. civilian with a contractor, all of whom further questions, I yield back the bal- Testimony was also presented that recruiting are sold on that one weapon. So the ance of my time. for fiscal year 1957 has already been com- committee has recommended, and I Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairmar., I yield 5 pleted. think quite properly, that the Secretary minutes to the gentleman from Mary- It was under those two statements that of Defense immediately appoint a com- land I Mr. HYDE I. the committee decided it would not be mittee of disinterested persons who are (Mr. HYDE asked and was given per- quite proper to give them any more qualified to pass on the merits of each mission to rev-se and extend his re- money at this time. of these defense weapons and let them marks.) Mr. HYDE. Yes. I am familiar with make a report to the Secretary as to Mr. HYDE. Mr. Chairman, I should that statement, and that is where I think which should be used, not necessarily like to get away a little bit from these the misunderstanding enters into it. It ruling the other out entirely. The ri- military problems and call the attention may be that it was a poor argument made valry in development between the two of the committee to an item on page by the advocates of this particular item. systems is a good thing, because each of 25 of the bill dealing with the Depart- The real reason for the $126,000 which them has something good and each has ment of Public Health for the District of was stricken out, was to bring the sal- something that the other might well Columbia. I understand this item was arics of the interns in this hospital in adopt. reduced some $126,000 in committee. line with the salaries of the interns in The idea proposed Is to have disinter- Unless I can gst the approval of the other Government-supported hospitals ested people on that committee, nobody committee, I do not propose here to offer in the area. connected with the companies building an amendment to restore it. Rather, I Mr. WILSON of Indiana. Mr. Chair- either of these missiles, nobody connect- would hope to have it restored in the man, will the gentleman yield? ed with the Department of the Navy or other body because I do not feel I have Mr. HYDE. I yield. the Air Force or the Army that has lived the time to make the full explanation Mr. WILSON of Indiana. As I under- so closely with it, because sometimes they which would give us a fair chance of stand it, they had completed their re- live so close to the things that they having the item restored here in the cruiting. We did not feel that it was cannot actually see problems in connec- House. But, it deals specifically with the the place in a supplemental appropria- tion with their project. We believe that salaries of interns at the District of Co- tions bill to start a rat race between the was a good recommendation. It does lumbia General Hospital. These interns, various hospitals to recruit these people, not call for any so-called dual proposi- according to the information I received, when they had already recruited their tion at all. now get about $1,500 a year whereas the quota for the present fiscal year. They There are many subjects In the bill interns in other Government supported can come up at the next regular appro- about which we could talk. As the hospitals in this area, for example the priation and we will consider it. chairman of the military subcommittee Freedmen's Hospital and St. Elizabeths Mr. HYDE. I appreciate the feeling [Mr. MAHON] has pointed out, we do Hospital get in the neighborhood of of the subcommittee and that is the rea- have bases pretty widely around the $2,500 a year. It seems to me these son I do not expect to propose an amend- world, roughly between 750 and 1.000 interns at the District of Columbia Gen- ment on the floor, but I hope the gentle- going all the way from installations eral Hospital should be at least brought man may be persuaded, in the event it where perhaps there may be 3 to 5 mili- into line with the interns in the other comes into conference on this matter. terry on each up to, our big base camps Government supported hospitals in this The CHAIRMAN. The time of the and depots for the Army, Navy, and Air area so far as th,2ir pay is concerned. I gentleman from Maryland [Mr. HYDE] Force. Some of them are huge installa- would like to call the attention of the has expired. tions and we do have a rather consider- members of the committee to this item able number of billions of dollars in- and, if possible, between now and the Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I yield vested in them. There was a time right time the bill is read for amendment, per- 5 minutes tes to to the gentleman from Vir- after the end of the war when we were haps get consent to increase that item g]n]a IMr. BROYHILL]. in, for instance, Japan and Germany as to the extent of at least $126,000 so we , Mr. BROYHILL. Mr. Chairman, I occupying victorious troops. But that might take care of the salaries of these - have a very unusual request to make at day and time is past. We are no longer interns. this time. Rather it is an unusual re- there as occupying victorious troops, but Mr. RABAUT. Mr. Chairman, will quest for me. That is, I would like to we are in each one of the countries of the gentleman yield? urge the Committee not to appropriate these allies as guests. We are there by any more money for my congressional their sufferance-most often under a Mr. HYDE. I am glad to yield to the district at this time than is now in the treaty, but you know and I know that gentleman from Michigan in regard tO bill. There is now included in the bill any of these treaties can be abrogated at this subject. $49 million for the construction of a CIA any time the host nation desires to end Mr. RABAUT. I realize that the gen- building, there is $14,300,000 for the con- it. If they say we are no longer wel- tieman wants to increase this by $126,- sti'uction of a new bridge. That is come in their land even though we may 000 above the amount now provided in enough money for any congressional dis- co there to protect them from some pos- the bill of $121,290. Under the instruc- trict to have in any one particular bill. Bible attack, there is only one thing that tions of the full committee that is the I refer to the threat to include in this we could do. We may hesitate and we amount we are reporting to the House, bill an appropriation of $34 million for may tell them that we do not like to and it would be beyond my power as the construction of a new airport out at leave and that we think it is vital that chairman in charge of this chapter of the ,!! Burke, Va. I say, "a threat"-I do not we stay, but when all is said and done, bill to accede to the gentleman's proposal, believe the gentleman from Pennsylvania if they do say, "The time has come when Mr. HYDE. I think there was some [Mr. Fi.ooDl will offer the amendment you have worn the welcome off the mat," misunderstanding in the committee with today, because he knows it will be over- there is only one thing we can do, and respect to the item. It was stated it whelmingly defeated. I think the strat- that is to leave. It would be the same was needed to st;mulate acquisition of egy is to try to get the other body to put situation exactly if these other troops new interns. Of course, it is hoped that it in the bill and then the conferees can were in this country and we felt that the increase in salary will do that, but' adopt it and possibly ram it down the they had outlived their welcome. We the primary purpose of it was simply to throats of the House in the closing days would ask them to get out, too. As the bring the salaries of those interns in line: of this Congress. Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approve, I or Release 2004/08/25: CIA-RDP63TW2458000100200006-2 11365 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -HOUSE I realize that the facilities around here ferred to as the bedroom of the Nation's $40 m million i cos ng approximately what we could are crowded. At least the technicians Capital. The effect of building a major hane this Mr. YAT S Did you know this at the time and experts say they are crowded. I airport in the middle of this area would you asked the Bureau of the Budget for guess we have to take their word for it, be to make a large section of the district $54,900,0002 but I do not believe that all of the alter- uninhabitable. The people living there Mr. LowEN. I was not Administrator then. natives to this congested situation have now are opposed to it and the local gov- Mr. YATES. Do you check to see whether the been fully explored. As pointed out by ernment is unalterably opposed to it. I equipment is available before you make the gentleman from Maryland [Mr. hope that if funds for this should be In- up your urr monetary requests? possible, yes. LANxFOenl, a few moments ago, there are serted in the other body that the con- MrPATES In this care you determined, five-he said six-there are five major ferees will not agree to accept anything did you tell the this case you Budget that le or did they tell you it airports already existing in this area and which is so overwhelmingly opposed. it was not availabBureau of they are not operating to their full ca- If it is inserted in this bill in confer- was not available for this year? They cut pacity. That is in addition to several ence I shall oppose it on the floor when the money. Somebody must have known minor airports. We have helicopter we consider the conference report. whether or not it was available. service between Fort Belvoir Army Base Mr. CANNON. Mr. Chairman, I yield Mr. ROTHSCHILD. The first figure was a and the Pentagon, who are not permitted 5 minutes to the gentleman from Illinois horseback figure, Mr. YATES. They took the to fly over 500 feet, because they will [Mr. YATES]. Mr, YATES. you don't mean the Depart- come in contact In the congested ap- Mr. YATES. Mr. Chairman, the dis- wt Commerce ts a he Bureau get with horseback figures. proach to the National Airport. estrous collision which occurred over the Budof to of It seems to me we should redistribute the Grand Canyon last week has served Mr. ROTHSCHILD. I mean that in this in- the traffic and use the present airports. to focus the Nation's attention on the stance this was a horseback figure. CAA The construction of another airport at necessity for taking immediate steps to took the $250 million in round numbers for Burke, Va., 22 miles away, I maintain assure greater safety in air travel. All this airways implementation plan and said will not eliminate the congestion which of a sudden we hear about near acci- it is going to take 5 years; we need a fifth Is existing In this area now. It was re- dents occurring in the Washington vi- of it every year. That is how the amount cinity and it is certain that this is a con- of money was arrived at in the first instance. ported the other day collisions that there around were she the dition which is prevalent in every metro- As you see from the hearings, we were proxim National Airport. nThose sn a Nnear collisions politan area throughout the country, interested in providing all the money were in the air approaching the National The CAA is suddenly galvanized into ac- necessary to assure the installation of Airport, within 10 to 20 miles of the air- tion. They are now prepared to speed equipment which would protect those port. To construct another airport up the 5-year air safety program which traveling by air. Fourteen million dol- within a 22-mile radius of the National" the Department-of Commerce took years lars of necessary equipment was stricken Airport will not do anything to alleviate to approve. by the Bureau of the Budget. The CAA that danger which exists. We do not But one wonders whether or not we said that it could not spend the addi- have airplane crashes on the ground, can ever obtain the safety in air travel tional money. And yet 2 days ago the these tragic disasters have always oc- we desire and need unless we clear up same people appeared before a subcom- curred in the air because of congestion the confusion that now exists in the Civil mittee of the Government Operations In the air-and sometimes without any Aeronautics Administration. Committee of the House and said, "Yes, congestion whatsoever as occurred in the. I am a member of the appropriations we can have improved air safety in this recent tragedy out In Arizona. subcommittee considering funds for the country; all we have to do is buy it." So I maintain that the construction of Department of Commerce and related The impression was given that if Con- an additional airport in this area will agencies. In March of this year, in gress appropriates the money, the 5-year not alleviate the danger of congestion in hearings before my subcommittee-and program can be speeded up. the air in the metropolitan area of I refer your attention to page 239 of the Mr. Chairman, our committee was hearings, the following colloquy between ready to provide the money, but the Washington. thi the CAA people and myself occurred: agency said it did not want it. Mr. Another n, this so-called Burke Mr. YATES. All right. Then I come back Rothschild, the Under Secretary of Com- location which is 22 miles away Is not to the question I asked. The major cut was coerce for Transportation, stated that he suitable for the construction of an air- in air-navigation equipment. What did you could not spend the money because he port and its runways from the stand- ask for in the amount of about $15 million ent. Two days point of the terrain. It would cost mil- that the Bureau of the Budget eliminated? could not o buyw an, any eqequipmAdent. wo d s lions of dollars additional to make that Mr. BASNIGHT. Airport surveillance radar ago, Mr. Lo the equipment o of the quipm f land adaptable to airport use over what and approach lights at airports. CAA, that said he was could short buy the t it would to buy farm land that Is already Mr. YATES. What amounts? the equipment. Thmanpower e fact re- Mr. level. Mr. BASNIGHT. Approximately $14 million. operate Mr. GROSS. Mr. Chairman, will the Mr. YATES. Can you tell us what items are mains that if there is any delay in pro- gentleman yield? represented by the approximately $50 mil- viding equipment which will improve Mr. BROYHILL. I yield. lion and the amounts for each? and make air travel safer, it will be at- Mr. GROSS. I agree with the gen- Mr. BA5NIGHT. I can give you the approxi- tributable to the administration rather tleman in his position in opposition to mate figures. The radar would amount to than to the Congress. the Burke airport. I am going to try to approximately $10 million. The lights, ap- Another example of the confusion that proximately $4 million, exists is shown by the testimony given help him and the people Virginia Mr. FLOOD. The radar would be only In before the Government Operations Com- beiridge over oveer r the of the burden Potomac. of another certain great centers? b Mr. YATES. Are those not necessary? They mittee 2 days ago with respect to VOR- Mr. BROYHILL. I would just like to must be, obviously, or you would not ask DME-distance-measuring equipment. leave things as they are. I would not for them if they were not necessary. I ask Let me read to you from page 231 of the want to make it any more than it is'nor the administrator that question." hearings: Mr. Bow. I. will yield to you now, Mr, would I want to make it any less than it Then Mr. Rothschild got Into it: YATES. ecl for that this area is concerned. owhat is in- Mr. ROTHSCHILD. The decision of the Bu- Mr. YATES. I just wanted to point out, Mr. iuded in tbill is reau of the Budget was made on the basis Rothschild just stated to you he was happy Another thing: Of course the gentle- that this equipment was not obtainable to report as to what they proposed to do. man from Pennsylvania says the Mary- within the fiscal year. Glancing over last year's hearings, I read land and Virginia delegations should be Mr. YATES. Did you testify, did you know from page i79 when Mr. Rothschild says: ignored here. I think it would be totally when you asked for the money for this "i am happy to report to you that the Air improper for the Congress to ignore the equipment, whether or not is was obtainable Coordinating Committee which brings to- complete delegation and the views of the during this fiscal year? gether all agencies interested in such mat- delegation of the two States that are in- And Mr. Charles J. Lowen, Admin- ters yesterday agreed unanimously that VOR and DME are still the nationally and inter- volved in this thing. Certainly in Fair- istrator of the Civil Aeronautics Ad- nationally approved distance-navigation fax` County if an airport is constructed ministration, said: - equipment for common system use and it would be in a residential area. The Mr. LowEN. I testified to Mr. Bow's ques- while they may be superseded by TACAN northern Virginia area is sometimes re- tion earlier. We said this was money, this it is too early to definitely estimate when No. 118-17 Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 11366 Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE July 12 this may take place. For this reason, the tary and civil avlatlon, why shouldn't the constructed and what kind of road this Department is of the opinion that the civilian airlines, glen, in order to make fly- is? amounts requested for installations of new ing safer adopt DME-VOR? distance-measuring equipments for mainte- Mr. ROTHSCHrLD. Because I don't think it Mr. BROYHILL. That is for the com- nance and operation of existing facilities is a good expenditure. This is my own de- pletion of construction of the George should be retained in the budget." cision. I don't think it Is a good expendl- Washington Memorial Parkway which All throughout the testimony last year, ture of public funds to go out and Install starts at Mount Vernon, follows the and I have had occasion to read It today more DME and operate more DME, not VOR Potomac River, and is ultimately due to and yesterday, there was a driving impetus but DME, and spend the public money in go to Great Falls, This was authorized on the part of the administration, even by that manner until there has been an lndi- by the Congress as far back as 1932. Secretary Weeks who stated that as long cation that the In,iustry needs It more than By piecemeal method we have gradually as-let me quote from what Secretary Weeks it has indicated up'until now. said-I just want to make this comment- extended that boulevard up to just be- on page 15. The decision against DME is Mr. yond Key Bridge. It is not fair to "I just want to add this comment In re- Rothschild's? What about the CAA Ad- Central Intelligence Agency to charge eponse to a question by Mr. Preston about ministrator? Is not his opinion im- them with $81z million for the parkway. VOR-DME. If it will not be ready for 3 portant? It was the intent of the Congress to build years and if VOR-DME will make flying safer Mr r.h h-,,,o,., T 4"_ 4, ____ +s,..+ _._ _ Has Mr. Weeks changed his mind on that? Istrator of the CAA was not given a free Mr. GROSS. -low many miles will be Mr. ROTHSCHILD. No, air, and I don't find hand in the op?ration of his agency, built? any fundamental conflict between what you that he was subject to the domination Mr. BROYHILL. I would say ap- just read and what I just said. of the Under Secretary of Commerce proximately 4 or 5 miles. Mr. YATES. May I point out your conflict? and the Secretary. After some study, Mr. GROSS. Four or five miles for Mr. ROTHSCHILD. Yes, air. I have come to the conclusion that this $8' million? Mr. YATES. Last year you asked funds for agency should be set up as an independ- Mr. BROYHILL. That is correct, It DME. This year you are not stated for ent agency with the duties and responsi- traverses rough country and there are funds for DME. Last year y flying is made safer as a result of DME, as bilities vested in the Administrator and some pretty hilly banks there alongside you thought it was when you were asking not scattered among many people in the of the Potomac River. for funds for DME. Do you this year come Department of Commerce as It now is. Mr. GROSS. That is still a substan. before us and say that flying is not made The interests of safety, of efficiency and tial figure for that mileage. safer through DME equipment? of economy requL'e that the Department Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. Mr. Mr. ROTHSCHILD. We are asking funds- of Commerce and the Civil Aeronautics Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. YATES. Are you going to answer my Administration ba separated. The CAA Mr. GROSS. I yield to my friend from question? has a tremendous job to do and its Mr. RomscHmi). I hope to-for the opera- tion of some 241 Installed DME's. ivies should be established by the person Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. I may Mr. YATES. You are? I was under the im- responsible for its operation rather than say to the gentleman from Virginia, that pression that somebody here testified a few by the Department of Commerce. up on those rocks by thePotomac there moments ago that you were not asking such Mr. Chairman, we shall make progress are some very fine building sites being funds. when we get rid of the confusion in the picked up. Mr. ROTHSCHILD. We are not asking funds Department of Commerce, when we place Mr. BROYHILL. There are a few to Install any new DME but we are asking the responsibiilty for a national airways building sites up there, but the boulevard funds to continue to operate those which system efficiently and safely operated, in comes back away from the river and goes are installed and operating. Now we will not have total and complete coverage of the one person trained for the job. We shall up the stream bed after it gets to Chain United States with those which we plan to not make progress, as long as there exists Bridge. operate this year but- in the CAA a vacillation, weakness of Mr. GROSS. On page 9 of this bill I Mr. YATES. May I ask why that is so? Is It purpose, a spirit of delay and postpone- find that there are to i;;50 housing units because you are not as sure of DME this year ment. The Congress is willing to support built at a cost of $1,589,500, or an average as you were last year? a worthy and progressive air safety pro- cost of $31,790 per unit, to Mr. ROTHSCHILD. That is exactly right. peed with a gram. It is up to the executive branch $75,000 house for the superintendent of Yet barely 3 months later, before the to supply such a program. the Air Force Academy; $50,000 each for Government Operations Committee, wit- Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 two units for the deans, and $30,000 each nesses from the CAA testified that DME minutes to the j:entleman from Iowa for 44 units for department heads and equipment would help unsnarl air traffic, [Mr. GRoss]. $31,500 for 3 units for the deputy chiefs directly contrary to Mr. Rothschild's Mr. GROSS. Mr. Chairman, I take of naval operations to be constructed at statement. Last year the Secretary of this time to ask a question or two. the United States Naval Observatory, Commerce asked our subcommittee to Since I am going to offer an amendment Washington, D. C. appropriate funds for additional DME to strike out the Jones Point Bridge Does not the gentleman in charge of equipment upon the recommendation of proposition, I would like to ask the com- those items think that will be pretty the Air Coordinating Committee-that mittee what under the language con- plush living for these people? The gen- VOR and DME are still the internation- tained in the bill is the amount of the tleman from Kansas awhile ago said ally approved distance navigation equip- unexpended balance to be added to the there are a good many of our servicemen ment for common system use. This year, $14,325,000? What is the unexpended living in trailers. Mr. Rothschild admitted in our hearings balance that is to be added to the $14,- Mr. MAHON. Mr. Chairman, if the that the Air Coordinating Committee is 325.000? gentleman will yield, years ago we started still of the same opinion as to DME's im- Mr. PRESTON. It is a very small an academy for the Army at West Point portance. The Department of Com- amount. This was left over from last and then later a Naval Academy. Now merce changed its mind. year. The exact 'figures I have not at we are building an Air Force Academy. Why did the agency change its mind? hand. Mr. GROSS. I understand that. That is one of the mysteries of which Mr. GROSS. Maybe a half million Mr. MAHON. I opposed the building the Congress has not been apprised. dollars? of that. I took the position we ought to I read further from the hearings at Mr. PRESTON. It would not be that have a national defense academy, but page 235: much, I am sure. A few thousand dol- the House did not sustain that position. Mr. YATES. Why are you not emphsal ing lars. It is the customary procedure Now, if you are going to have an Air DME to-the same extent that you did last when you make an additional appropria- Force Academy, which we can expect year? tion to merge the funds, will be there as long as the Nation Mr. ROTHSCHILD. Because VOR_DME Is not Mr. GROSS. I thank the gentleman. stands, you want to have first-class con- good enough to meet the tactical require- Now, under Central Intelligence struction. Of course, many live in meets of the military, period. Agency there is an item providing homes, the extremely well-to-do, ran- Mr. YATES. We also have the civil avia_ $49,000.000. There Is also provided. I ing from $50,000 to $100,000 in some tion that we must worry about and until believe, $81z million for road building. areas. Well, the Superintendent of the such time as the military can show the Am I correct in that? Will someone tell Air Force Academy ought to have a resi- TACAN should be adopted by both the milt- me how many miles of roadway will be dence certainly reasonably adequate, Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 1956 Approve4or Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63TOO245R000100200006-2 11367, CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -HOUSE with all the entertaining he has to do, and $75,000 for an Air Force Academy Superintendent's home for the United States of America I do not think is too much. Mr. GROSS. Wait a minute. There Is no land acquisition cost, is there? Mr. MAHON. Well, the land has al- ready been bought. Mr. GROSS. Of course it has. Mr. MAHON. The land would not be very much. It is a very small item inso- far as the actual area is concerned where the building would be built. We have and this I recall , there 17,000 acres, as would occupy a very small part of the gentleman comes from Iowa. When the land. gentleman refers to entertainment, what Mr. GROSS. It just seems to me that kind of entertainment does the gentle- you are providing pretty plush living man have in mind? Does the gentle- quarters for a very few people. man know what kind of entertainment Mr. MAHON. Why not do a fairly this is to be? plush job for the Superintendent of the Mr. GROSS.. No. Academy and make it one where the Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. I think construction cost originally will bear the gentleman ought to find out. fruit in that the additional repairs dur- Mr. GROSS. I have had no intimate ing the years will not be so great? Why experience either with the Export-Im- not have a real first-class home for the port Bank or the State Department. Superintendent so that when our own Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. The people go there they can say, "This is gentleman ought to find out what kind the home of our Superintendent, and we of liquor they are drinking. are proud of it." The armed services Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I yield asked for $90,000, and I supported them 1 minute to the gentleman from Virginia in that request, but the committee in its [Mr. BROYHILLI. wisdom reduced it to $75,000. Mr. BROYHILL. Mr. Chairman, in Mr. GROSS. i understand the gen-i answer to the question of the gentleman tleman's position, but I disagree'with from Iowa [Mr. GROSS] about the cost of him. I do not think we have to appro- the parkway up to this CIA Building, I priate $75,000 to build a house for the would like to state that the actual cost Superintendant of the Academy nor do of the paving itself would amount to we have to spend $31,500 to build houses $1,300,000. Incidentally, the parkway for three deputy chiefs of naval opera- would extend 6 miles. The other costs tions at the Naval Observatory. Some- were for the grading. As I said before, thing tells me there is a limit to the en- it is very rough terrain. That amount durance of the taxpayers of this coun- is $2,700,000. Then there are structural try. costs, such as bridges over these little On page 14 of the bill I find an item streams, and so forth, which would cost that is recurring in appropriation bill $3,900,000. The cost of the land is $500,- after appropriation bill. This is com- paratively minor, $9,000 for entertain- ment for the Export-Import Bank. I wish you on the Committee on Appro- priations and the Foreign Affairs Com- mittee would stop this business of $800,000 for entertainment, liquor and whatever goes with it, for the State De- partment. Now we have $9,000 for the Export-Import Bank. I wish you would give a little attention to putting the brakes on these people. As I recall the figures, there is another $45,000 or $50,000 appropriated this year to some 29 representatives to NATO for, as they call it, hospitality allowance. Let us get down to earth with regard to this busi- ness. We have some taxpayers to take into consideration in this country. Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. GROSS. I yield to the gentle- man from Michigan. 11Irr HCIFFM.AN of Michigan. Well, if port Bank-what did you call it, Export man tell me if that $11 million has been purposes ofsthe- committee, as stated in or import? earmarked for any particular plans, or my resolution, would be to investigate the Mr. GROSS. Export-Import Bank. are those just general funds that may status of older people in our Nation and Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. If the be used in carrying out the committee to determine how the Federal Govern- representatives of this bank, the officers recommendation to do more in the way ment can cooperate with State and local acid these other fellows, would eat up of advance planning, for economy? some of this surplus grain and wheat, Mr. SHEPPARD. No, those funds are governments and with private industry that would be one thing, but they have not earmarked there. They are for the and voluntary agencies to provide better to have that higher class entertainment, I understand. What did the gentleman mean when he said, "All that goes with it"? Mr. GROSS. Perhaps they have to have this entertainment allowance to make some of those so-called soft loans to foreign countries, loans that may or may not be repaid. Does the gentleman suppose that that is the reason? Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. The gentleman means, to coax the people to take the money? Mr. GROSS. Yes, to spoon-feed them. Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. The 000. schedule various projects, but I believe Incidentally, the State of Virginia and the communities involved, I am very that this should not be necessary and proud to say, are paying for half the that the Navy should. have some discre- cost of the land. tion in the matter. Mr. CANNON. Mr. Chairman, I yield I have in mind that at the Puget to the gentleman from California [Mr. Sound Naval Shipyard there is a high SHEPPARD] such time as he may require. priority project for a new drydock. Mr. SHEPPARD. Mr. Chairman, hav- Planning funds have been requested in ing something to do on the Navy panel the amount of $1,300,000. These funds to the extent of $400 million in this pub- must be made available or we will have lie works program, I ask unanimous a serious weakness in. our defense on the consent that my comments pertaining to west coast for years to come. The Bu- the same be inserted in the RECORD fol- reau of Ships recognizes this and I trust lowing the remarks made by the gentle- that when the legislation comes to con- man from Texas [Mr. MAHON]. ference, the conferees will do likewise. The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, THE PROBLEMS OF AMERICA'S OLDER PEOPLE it is so ordered. DEMAND ATTENTION NOW-IT IS TRAGIC TO There was no objection. PROCRASTINATE Mr. PELLY. Mr. Chairman, will the Mr. FOGARTY. Mr. Chairman, in the gentleman yield? first session of this Congress, I intro- Mr. SHEFPARD. I yield. duced House Resolution 172 calling for Mr. PELLY. On page 26 of the printed a Select Committee on Problems of the report there is an item of $11 million Aging to be composed of seven Members practical purpose of having adequate and proper planning. Also we suggested to the Department that they finalize their plans for certain projects. They have a perfect right to apply the funds where they think it necessary. Mr. PELLY. I thank the gentleman. Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the ex- planation of the gentleman from Cali- fornia [Mr. SHEPPARD] in response to my inquiry. However, I have been in- formed, and I believe authoritatively, that the advanced planning funds amounting to $11 million included with the military public works program under yards and docks facilities cannot be used for final plans and specifications-of one or both of the west coast drydocks which have been listed as essential projects and given priority listing by the Navy. This may be a very serious omisssion. The committee recognizes the timelag involved if planning funds are not in- cluded this year. It-will take a minimum of 6 years to get a drydock which will accommodate the Forrestal-class carri- ers in the event of needed repair of ex- terior battle damage on their hulls. As the committee knows, these modern car- riers cannot pass through the Panama Canal and must go around South Amer- ica to get from one coast to the other. I understand, Mr. Chairman, that this lack of flexibility in the House bill which would prevent projects from being in- cluded at the discretion of the Navy was discussed yesterday when similar legis- lation was before the Appropriations Committee in the other body. The pur- pose of my making this statement is to urge consideration of the House con- ferees In due course to working out greater flexibility. As I understand it, sufficient funds are available. It is more a matter of redtape. I am sure that un- Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 1Z 11368 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE July 12 conditions of living for this growing element iri our population. In my opinion, the need for a Commit- tee on Problems of the Aging has be- come immeasurably more important than it was when I introduced my res- olution. During the 15 months that have elapsed, the older population of our country has increased by almost half a million persons and now stands at the unprecedented figure of 141,z million 65 years of age and over. The need for action is urgent now. Mr. Chairman, but will become even more so. The continuing increase amounting to 1,000 older persons each day will give us a population of 21 million older people within another scant 20 years. We are in the midst of one of the greatest hu- manitarian problems and social chal- lenges our country has ever faced. In my own small State of Rhode Island, the population of older people has almost doubled over the past 25 years, increas- ing from about 40,000 in 1930 to 80,000 today. And while the number of older people increases their situations, their posi- tion in our society continues to deterio- rate. Over the past decade, for example, we have listened to a great deal of talk about jobs for older people. Yet, dur- ing this same period the proportion of older men in the labor force has con- tinued to decline. Just this spring the Census Bureau reported that the per- centage of men 65 and over who are working has reached its lowest point since the depths of the depression. Surely there is need to investigate the factors in this deplorable situation. The amount of income available to' purchase the necessities of living and to meet the costs of medical care which in- crease with age is another matter that requires continuous study. There has been some improvement in the income position of the aged over the past 5 or 6 years. The old-age and survivors insur- ance program is now making payments to 6.5 million older persons. Private pensions, railroad retirement pensions, and retirement programs of govern- mental agencies are gradually reaching more of our older people. Yet, statistics collected by the Bureau of the Census show that two-thirds of our older people are having to get along on less than $1,000 a year. A recent study from the University of California compares the amount of income received by older persons with careful estimates of the cost of living. The conclusion reached by these California scientists, is that almost one-half of our older couples and about three-fourths of our older in- dividuals do not have enough income to live at a minimum standard of health and decency. With regard to the all-important mat- ters of housing and medical care, the situations of older people have continued to deteriorate since I introduced my Res- olution 172. The number of older people continues to increase while the present administration complacently in- sists that there is no need for a public housing program for them. Three-fifths or more of our older peo- ple are suffering from one or more long- term illnesses and many of them are in desperate need 3f medical care. What does the administration do about it? It proposes, Mr. Chairman, a reinsurance program for surgery and hospital care. It is difficult for me to see how low-in- come older people could benefit from a reinsurance program when they do not have the money to pay the basic prem- iums in the first place. These are some of the major problems confronting a growing number and pro- portion of our population. They are problems of greet urgency because they are serious problems and because they affect many of our older people and their families who are so eager to help them but who are primarily and necessarily concerned with the welfare of their own children. These circumstances compel our attention: they are some of the rea- sons underlying my action in introduc- ing my resolution for a Select Commit- tee on Aging to study the problems and determine how they are to be met. THE NEED FOR HOUSING Let me be more specific, Mr. Chair- man, with reference to some of these matters. Let me take the matter of housing as an example. In Rhode Is- land, we made an intensive study of the circumstances and needs of our older population. In 1951, a Commission was set up to study the problems of the aged. Two years later this Commission pre- sented the results of its study in a report entitled "Old Age in Rhode Island." One of the tragic conclusions reached by the Commission is that 33 percent of our older people are without central heating in their homes and that 27 per- cent are forced to live in housing that is grossly substandard in other respects. These are largely low-income people- those for whom the administration says no housing program is needed. Among those who are trying to live on public assistance, the situation is al- most twice as bar for some 53 percent of these were found in dilapidated hous- ing or lacking the basic sanitary facili- ties. And let me point out, Mr. Chair- man, that we, as a society, are fostering this kind of living. Every time a public assistance grant is made to cover the rent of an older person living in a di- lapidated or unsanitary dwelling, we are subsidizing the continued existence of that dwelling. Surely our consciences will drive us to do better than this by our aged folks. The picture I Nave been describing, Mr. Chairman, is that of my own State of Rhode Island. I wish that I could assure my colleagues here in the House that the older people in their own dis- tricts are living more comfortably. But I cannot do so. The figures that I have cited for my own .State parallel those re- ported by the Bureau of the Census for the country as a whole. Decent housing for our senior citizens is a nationwide need. Yet I have not presented the total housing problem t?y any means. What I have described is merely the physical characteristics of the places our older people are forced to call their homes. I have said nothing about the tremendous loneliness and isolation of large propor- tions of our aged couples and particu. larly of the millions of older people who are widowed or who were never married. It was because of these circumstances, Mr. Chairman, that on February 24, 1955, I introduced in the House of Representa- tives a bill, H. R. 4368, which would au- thorize the admission of elderly single persons to housing projects. In the in- terim. I have strongly supported all legislation which would provide adequate housing for our older people and give them the encouragement and assistance which they need so much. In Rhode Island, I am glad to say we have made a beginning in correcting this situation. We have incorporated living units for older people into two of our public-housing projects in the city of Providence. I can report that they are proving to be a boon to the few older people fortunate enough to find places in them. But, we also need more studies of the housing problem. We need to know what kinds of housing are best suited to older people. We need to know where it should be located with reference to other facili- ties in the community. We need to know how much special housing is needed. And, perhaps, most of all, we need to know what kinds of housing older people themselves really want. Too much of what we provide for older people is what others think will be good for them. Older people have a right, I sub- mit, to speak for themselves and should be encouraged to do so. This whole matter of housing is one of the things I had in mind, Mr. Chair- man, when I introduced my resolution for a Select Committee on Problems of the Aging. I am sure you will agree that the need is a critical one. WE MUST DO SOMETHING ABOUT EMPLOYMENT One of the major financial problems of our older people is, as I said earlier, that of paying for medical care. Geriatri- cians are in full agreement in their rec- ommendation of annual or even semi- annual medical checkups-and our Pres- ident is setting the pattern for them-for early diagnosis and treatment, and for prompt restorative services when serious illness does come. Yet thus far, Mr. Chairman, the present administration has been almost completely silent on the subject of how our older citizens are to pay for these services. A few years ago, one of our colleagues introduced a bill to provide comprehen- sive medical insurance in connection with the old-age and survivors insurance program. A few months ago, this pro- posal was revived. I am not sure, Mr. Chairman, that this is the best way to do it but I do know tht the very exciting results of medical research may as well be left undiscovered if they are not 'to be translated into medical care for all of our people. We are living in a changing, dynamic society. We can never assume that our work is done. We must be striving al,_ ways to improve our programs for financial security and for the mainte- nance of health. And this is another reason I am asking you to appoint a t Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approved or Release IONALREMfttgPfR 45R000100200006-2 1956 11369 making them and experience coming to over Select Committee on the Problems of retirement without meaningful country, to provide inform ti on and con- Aging. sultation to the States and communities THE HEALTH OF OUR` OLDER GITFZEN9 MUST years. mti;d TRr rha;rma.n_ is the major un- trying to develop programs and services BE MAiN'l'Aaa .... I do not wish to explore the whole vast charted area in the field of aging. So- and inac- lonesomeness ti l , on, a field of health, Mr. Chairman, but I do cial iso wish to point out that during the past 10 tivity lead to physical and mental deteri- years we have stepped up the funds for oration and dependency as surely as research, for rehabilitation, and for the night leads to day and day to night. construction of medical facilities. We Gerontologists have reached this con- have made a start and I am proud of clusion over and over again as they have studied older people and their ills. record. However, we still have a long way to go. There seems to be a rising opinion among medical people and gerontologists that much of the current disability and deterioration among older people is totally unnecessary. This is another area, Mr. Chairman, that well could be explored by the select committee I have proposed. My em- phasis thus far has been on the finan- cial aspects of hospitalization and medi- cal care but, beyond these, there are very important hunmanitarian consider- ations. Longer years of living will be ,nothing more than more years of misery, Mr. Chairman, if they are to be spent in sickness and in progressive decline in a mental hospital. Our older citizens want to be healthy and they want to remain in their own homes and com- munities. We cannot go on putting them out of sight in any convenient storage place. MUST OUR OLDER PEOPLE FIGHT A LOSING BATTLE? Mr. Chairman, I wish to make one more point before I come to my conclud- ing recommendation. I spoke earlier about more opportunities for employ- ment and I believe they are of utmost importance. On the other hand, we must recognize that a great many, per- haps the majority of our older people, will have to look elsewhere for their In Rhode island and in a number of other places, important experiments have been taking place in finding new occupa- tions and new satisfactions for this part of our older population. In Rhode Island, the facilities of adult education are be- ing opened to older people and they are beginning to respond in sizable numbers. In two of our Rhode Island communities, we have established community centers for older people; centers in which they may spend their time with friends, work- ing in the arts and crafts; taking courses in citizenship, in nutrition, and in a score of other things, or just enjoying them- selves in games and sports. And, per- ifaps even more hopeful is the initiative older people themselves are taking in looking for voluntary services they can perform for the community. Thousands of our older citizens have reported that they are happiest when they are doing something for other people. These new ways of maintaining active interest in life,,of continuing their .use- fulness to the community, and of becom- ing more informed and, hence, better citizens, are perhaps forerunners of a new life for older people. We must encourage them and we must continue to experi- ment. And above all, we must study these programs to see what they mean to our older citizens, to see their effect on maintenance of health and zest for living; to see, in brief, how we can bring life to the added years. This, I suggest, is another reason why there is need for a of our older men and 90 percent or about NEED FOR ACTION IN THE EXECUTIVE AGENCIES 7 million of our older women are not Mr. Chairman, last spring, at the time working and are not likely. to work again of the budget hearings, I was very much is in unless it sform of part-time art-time disappointed that the Department of e age of These roplptodle, all and past large, the Health, Education, and Welfare, and the age of family 5, have sprnsibteiliesdi e s 11 and ended nden million Department of Labor reflected very little their onresponsibilities their w work careers. These awareness of the urgency of the matters men and women and a good many more I have just reviewed. ,.~... ..n aF represent the The problems of our aging and aged ___ the lif e; ,.. , w. r achievement of lonnge ple whose lives have been extended be- varied than the people in the administer- local groups. We must remember that yond the period in which they made tion seem to realize. What we need is a shared responsibility even dspontments seem their principal contributions to society. concerted attack on a broad front. I we though have a some of our It is they who helped build the society have directed the heads of these Depart- t lugs sight of it. we have and we owe them a great deal. ments to present such a program when Its clear to me-indeed, recent events The tragedy is that we have not formed they come up with their 1958 budget re- hforced ear the -Indeed, ume- and ways in which they can be useful quests. a have that th important key conclusion upon po in get- and enjoy the satisfactions of belonging In my opinion they will not be giving tint action for our older to progress self-sufficiency. Our tendency has due recognition to the needs of our older proposal embodied in people in get- and is to been to set them aside and to ignore them people until they develop special facili- proposal a bodiCommittee resolution to when we should have been providing new ties in these two Departments to deal establish of the Aging. I hope there will be through which they could with all of the probems of aging. An lems on on this r there will be le actio o be useful and opportunities through office of services to older persons is long oado of the boat our monons of esder people which they can build new human con- overdue in the Department of Health, will have assurance of our deep concern tacts and friendships after their children Education, and Welfare. Such an agen- for their welfare. have gone from the home and particu- cy is badly needed to coordinate the pro- The CHAIRMAN. All time having larly when widowhood comes. We have, grams scattered throughout the Depart- in short, created longer life and more ment, to keep track of the new knowledge expired, the Clerk will read. for oiuer pupic, p,,iu .1 .a..... ....._w_ - with national organizations at work in the field. The problem of employment Is of spe- cial significance. A job is the best guar- antee of a satisfactory income in the later years; it enables the older person to maintain his status of independence and usefulness, and is an important factor in preventing physical and mental deterioration. For all of these reasons, I should like to see the Department of Labor set up an office of older workers. An office of older workers could bring to bear more effectively the programs for older workers now carried on within sev- eral Bureaus, could step up its studies of the, problems of older workers, and play the leading role in a nationwide ef- fort to provide more jobs for this im- portant group in our population. To- gether with the Civil Cervice Commis- sion, an office of older workers could work toward the more effective utiliza- tion of older workers and toward the development of improved personnel prac- tices regarding older workers within the Government. ACTION IN THE STATES AND COMMUNITIES There are important steps that should be taken by the Federal Government to meet the critical situation I have de- scribed. However, I do not wish to suggest, Mr. Chairman, that the Federal Government should bear the total re- sponsibility. Quite the contrary, I be- lieve that aging is the concern of every- one, of all levels of Government and of many other agencies in our national life. I believe firmly that every 1 of the 48 States and all of our communities must set up special programs and services for older persons. In my State of Rhode Island, we have adopted this pattern. Five years ago Gov. Dennis J. Roberts set up a study commission on problems of the aged and subsequently converted it into a perma- nent Governor's committee on aging. The legislature has provided it with a paid staff. The result is that in Rhode Island we are beginning to make prog- ress. In the Federal Government, Mr. Chairman, we must make provision for Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 11370 Approved For Ref IfESSIS> / 5 CIA-RRDRP63T0024 E000100200006-2 July 12 CIVIL AERONAUTICS ADMINISTRATION to the Government or, over a period of to a low of 15 percent with a high of 17 Land acquisition, additional Washington 5 years. $152.500. percent. In addition, I note that there is airport Mr. HAYS of Ohio. Mr. Chairman, now a minimum guaranty of revenue to For an additional amount for "Land acqui- will the gentleman yield? the Government of $175,000 per contract sition, additional Washington airport." for Mr. ANDREWS. I yield. year. Several other changes have been payment of deficiency judgments rendered Mr. HAYS of Ohio. Maybe the rea- made in the previous contract all of by United States district courts, $2.429, son they did nat want to award it to which, it seems to me, inure to the benefit together with such amounts as may be nec- the gentleman you mentioned is that of the Government. essary to pay interest as specified In such i I,,,,, ,,;,, ..._e _ __ . . pany to handlt it. Certainly anyone my attention that the fees paid to the Mr. ANDREWS. Mr. Chairman, I who has used that facility knows the Government by Airport Transport have offer an amendment. one who is handling it now is not very been and are today the highest paid by The Clerk read as follows: competent. any similar operation in the Nation. It Amendment offered by Mr. ANDREWS: Page Mr. ANDREWS. I have heard that. is estimated t!iat under the new arrange- 2, after line 24 insert the following center Mr. BOW. Mr. Chairman, I insist on ment the Government will average ap- head and new paragraph: my point of order that the amendment is proximately $200,000 a year in fees re- "Contracts for services legislation on an appropriation bill. ceived from Airport Transport, based on "Hereafter no contract for services at any The CHAIRMAN. The Chair is pre- present volume. airport under the direct jurisdiction of the pared to rule. The Government controls the fares Civil Aeronautics Administration shall he The gentleman from Alabama offers paid by the public, controls the standard entered into without previously advertising an amendment which in substance would of service, maintains the right to audit invitations for sealed bids based on speci- fications sufficient to permit full and free require that in Connection with con- the books of the company, and thus competition in the letting of such con- tracts under the jurisdiction of the Civil regulates this company similar to a pub- tracts." Aeronautics Administration sealed bids lic utility. be required. I have further noted that where local Mr. BOW. Mr. Chairman, I make the The amendment provides for new law; taxicab companies supply $5,000 to point of order against the amendment it is not a limitation on the purpose for $10,000 public liability insurance, Air- that it is legislation on an appropriation which funds may be used, and conse- port Transport protects its passengers by bill. quently it is legislation on an appropria- providing $100,000 to $300,000 liabilit Mr. ANDREWS. Will the gentleman tion bill. The joint of order Is sus- insurance. y reserve his point of order? tamed. This company under its present man- Mr. BOW. I will reserve the point (Mr. BOW asked and was given per- agement has operated at the airport for of order, Mr. Chairman. mission to extend his remarks at this 10 years and has increased its payments Mr. ANDREWS. Mr. Chairman, the point in the RECORD.) to the Government over that period of purpose of this amendment is simply to Mr. BOW. M. Chairman, the Civil time by over 500 percent. require the Civil Aeronautics Authority Aeronautics Administration and the Di- Upon investigation I learned that this officials to award contracts to the high rector of the Washington National Air- company provides a training course and bidders. I have in mind a recent con- port recently awarded a contract to Air- safety program for its drivers which is tract that was let for a concession at the port Transport, Inc.. the incumbent con- unique and a model in the field. The National Airport. The contract was let cessionaire for ground transportation at company employs 250 drivers, all of by sealed bids. The company that bid the Washington National Airport for a whom are members of the International the highest rate to the Government was period of 5 years. Brotherhood of Teamsters. They are not awarded the contract. The Purpose This award was made through negotia- selected only after the most careful in- of this amendment is to require the Civil tion, after invitations were offered and vestigation and physical examination. Aeronautics Authority in the future to proposals submitted by competing firms. They are then put through rigid training award contracts to the bidders who will I would like to offer my congratula- periods before they are permanently return the highest rate to the Govern- tions to the Honorable Bennett Griffin, hired. The Driver's Manual, estab- ment. director of the airport, and to those in lishing the standards of service-and op- Mr. GREEN of Pennsylvania. Mr. the Civil Aeronautics Administration and eration has not only been copied and Chairman, will the gentleman yield?, the Office of the Secretary of Commerce used throughout the automotive trans. Mr. ANDREWS. I yield. who were responsible for the awarding portation industry as a model, but has Mr. GREEN of Pennsylvania. Why of the contract to this splendid organi- also been the subject of many articles in was not the contract awarded to the zation. the trade press, highest bidder? I have personally examined letters Before the present company com- Mr. ANDREWS. That is what I from every major airline in the Nation menced its operation, the airport was would like to know. addressed to the Government authorities serviced by taxicabs with each driver Mr. GREEN of Pennsylvania. Can- charged with the awarding of the con- owning his own cab or renting it on a not the gentleman find out? tract. Uniformly these letters state that per diem basis. Normal employer- Mr. ANDREWS. We are having the ground transportation service at the employee relationship did not exist. General Accounting Office look into it Washington National Airport is a model The system was found unsatisfactory at this time. for the rest of the Nation. These airline because it proved impossible to serve the The contract I had in mind was the officials requested the director to pro- public on a 24-hour rain-or-shine basis. concession for ground transportation vide a continuity of service and to treat To correct this situation the company cone the aifor o the city Wash- this franchise not as an ordinary conces- has invested a substantial sum in its f romn. I know a man who made a bid sion but as a public utility. These ofli- own fleet of vehicles and garage equip- offering the Government 21 percent of dais properly wer?~ concerned with this went, hired its own driver employees the gross receipts. That man was flnan- operation because It actually is an in- on a guaranteed salary basis, and main- he gross cially able, and able every other an- tegral part dY the service which they pro- tains one of the finest fleet service units perform the contract. Yet tCivil vide the air-traveling public. A safe, in this area. The drivers get such bene- to perform e com that fine trip by air _,ould very easily be fits as 2 weeks vacation with pay and contract within A24 uthority y hours awarded the time marred by an uncomfortable trip from group life Insurance. Fifty percent of the old contract expired to the bidder airport to town. them have been with the company over t who bid n percent. t after raising er Last year 1,330000 passengers were 5 years, 17 initial bid from c 15 e percent. transported by Airport Transport by In the year 1955 these drivers covered limousine and taxicab to and from the approximately 6,500,000 miles without a Based on the present amount of bust- Washington National Airport. chargeable accident resulting in a major ness that is done at the airport, it is esti- I note that the e.irport director nego- personal injury to themselves or passen- mated conservatively that the 21-per- tiated several changes In the existing gets. Their record in 1956 Is equally as cent contract would have returned to contract, chief amcng which was the in- good. In the entire 10-year period dur- the Government $30,500 a year more crease in the fee arrangement from a low ing which the present management has Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 1956 ApprovedsEor Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T0M5R000100200006-2 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE 11371 operated the company there has been only 1 major accident resulting in in- jury to a passenger. During this period approximately 10 million passengers were carried over a distance of 45 mil- lion miles. I have also seen letters from the bank- ing institutions. and the major supply houses doing business with the com- pany, all of which attest to the financial responsibility and integrity of the com- pany and its officers. In conclusion, I again wish to con- gratulate the Government officials charged with the awarding of this con- tract for having been so conscious of the welfare of the airline passengers as to have reawarded the contract to Air- port Transport, Inc. The additional revenue to the Government is an ad- mirable accomplishment, particularly in the light of the fact that the outstand- ing service, the low fares, the excellent equipment, and the impeccable char- acter of the personnel has not been im- paired. Obviously no other bidder could have provided more revenue for the Government without impairing in some manner these qualities to which the air- line officials, the Government authori- ties, and the riding public so sincerely attest. The testimony given before the Sub- committee on the Department of Com- merce and Related Agencies, of which I am a member, leads me. to the conclu- sion, which I am happy to present to the House of Representatives, that in the awarding of this contract to Airport Transliort the best interests of the American public have been admirably served, MAY 22, 1956. Hon. CHARLES J. LOWEN, Administrator, Civil Aeronautics Ad- ministration, United States Depart- ment of Commerce, Washington, D. C. DEAR SIR: It has come to my attention that the Department of Commerce is con- sidering a change in the contractual speci- fications regarding ground transportation operation at National Airport. To be spe- cific: A change from negotiation to bid basis. Should such a, change become fac- tual, there would be a strong possibility that a new organization, lacking experience, could be awarded a contract on the basis of a lower bid, In view of our recent entry into Wash- ington as a domestic on-line carrier, I feel it only fair to voice a supporting opinion in favor of Air Transport, Inc., the present operator at National Airport. I know of no other ground transportation service, any- where, that can better the service to pas- sengers now provided by Air Transport, Inc. The organization, from management down to the last driver, is highly trained and en- joys a well-deserved reputation as a quality service performing in the public interest. With the acquisition of three new car- riers serving Washington, the added burden on ground transportation becomes apparent. Airport Transport, Inc., has met the chal- lenge with alacrity and has provided the very same excellent standard of service as always. It is my sincere hope that the Govern- ment will consider the many intangible, as well as tangible, qualities of the present operator prior to rendering such service to the status of a bid operation. Cordially yours, STEVAN M. OLDS, District Sales Manager. NATIONAL AIRLINES, INC., Washington, D. C., February 10, 1956. Mr. MOE LERNER, Airport Transport, Washington National Airport, Washington, D. C. DEAR MR. LERNER: I have been in the air- line industry for 11 years. During that period I have flown into practically every major city in the United States. I can make the un- qualified statement that the service offered by Airport Transport in Washington is the most efficiently run and passenger-pleasing operation that I have yet encountered. The consideration for the airline passeng- er's needs, and the lack of waiting time, the courtesy and attitude of the employees, the excellent and well-maintained equipment, combined with reasonable fares, all are out- standing features of your service. I feel that any efforts to interfere with the present business operation and set-up at Washington National Airport could only work to the disadvantage of our passengers. I, therefore, offer my services in any way necessary to maintain and support your or- ganization's operation. I will be happy to so advise in writing any party or parties in- volved in current controversy over your fran- chise. Sincerely, ROBERT A. ROE, District Sales Manager. APRIL 20, 1956. Hon. CHARLES LOWEN, Administrator, Civil Aeronautics Administration, Washington, D. C. DEAR CHUCK: I don't know whether you know it or not, but long before our time here in Washington the ground transpor- tation service at the airport was horrible. In fact, it was so bad that the industry had to do something about it. That was how the present service headed by Moe Lerner came into being, as I understand it. I am advised that there is a possibility that the ground service will be open for bids. I just want to say without being too pre- sumptious that it would be one terrific mis- take to in anyway impair the excellent service we are receiving at the airport today. Sincerely, ALEXANDER G. HARDY, Senior Vice President. Mr. MOE LERNER, President, Airport Transport, Inc. Washington National Airport, Washington, D. C. DEAR MOE: I felt I could not let another day of the new year go by without express- ing to you the sincere thanks of Northwest Orient Airlines for the fine service you are providing our customers. It is very rare that a person in my capacity can experience a full year and a half-the time I have been assigned to Washington- without hearing anything but praise from our passengers concerning the airport limousine service. To me this recommends quite an achievement on your part. With beat wishes, and again our sincere thanks to you for the admirable record you have acheved for outstanding service to our passengers. Very truly yours, NORTHWEST ORIENT AIRLINES, RONALD MCVICKAR, District Sales Manager. Hon. CHARLES, LowEN, Administrator of Civil Aeronautics, Washington, D. C.: Reference limousine service Washington National Airport strongly recommend con- tinuance of franchise for Airport Transport Inc. based upon the excellent past service of this company to our- customers. J. C. ROBERTSON, Director of Customer Service, North- west Airlines. UNITED AIR LINES, March 12, 1956. The Honorable CHARLES J. LOwEN, Administrator, Civil Aeronautics Ad- ministration, Washington, D. C. DEAR SIR: A number of days ago several of our airline group were having a discussion re- garding matters of mutual interest. It came to my attention then that there is some type of action pending which conceivably could deprive our passengers of the superior service rendered by the Airport Transport, Inc. In my capacity as district sales manager for United, I have considerable interest in the service offered by an airport ground service operator. While actual administrative re- sponsibility in the relationship between our company and a ground service operator falls under Mr. R. K. Kearns, our district passenger service manager, I naturally must concern myself with such a service in my responsibil- ity for developing passenger sales in this area. In developing passenger sales, we must consider as part of our commodity how much the passenger pays for ground transporta- tion to and from the airport and the type of service he receives. The air passenger nor- mally originates and terminates his com- plete trip far from the airport, so such ground service as offered is of vital concern in offer- ing our air service to the customer. I be- lieve that Airport Transport, Inc. charges are very resonable and that the service rendered Is of superior quality. Their drivers are courteous and efficient, their schedules are prompt and expeditious. One thing that particularly impresses me is the speedy dis- patch of their limousines from the airport or downtown terminals. In so many cities our early passenger is required to wait for long periods of time until the bus fills up. This brings up the point that here in Washington we have deluxe limousine service which will even carry our passengers to or from their homes at a . reasonable fare. I should imagine that this represents an extremely large capital investment on the part of Air- port Transport, Inc. I feel that the management of that com- pany is dedicated to the service of our pas- senger. I know from personal experience that Mr. Moe Lerner has devoted more than is required of his time and energy to assure us of quality service to our passengers. Un- doubtedly, in order to achieve the type of service we receive, he has made a substantial investment in his capital equipment and fa- cilities. With the expansion in service that we can anticipate this year and in the next few years as we reach the jet age, he will have to make additional and substantial capital investment on which he is entitled to a fair return, but which would not be reflected without assurance of continued operation. It has been my privilege to have served United in several cities across our system And, as well, to have traveled extensively throughout the country. I can say un- equivocally that in no other city is the air- port ground transportation equal to that which our passengers receive here in Wash- ington. I am convinced that the service rendered by Airport Transport, Inc., Is In the best interest of our customer. Very cordially yours, M. W. STEVENSON, District Sales Manager, Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 11372 Approved For"~QSRA5EACRDP63002~4SE 000100200006-2 CAPITAL AIRLINES, Washington, D. C, March 20, 1958. Mr. CHARLES J. LOWEN, Administrator, Civil Aeronautics Ad- ministration, Department of Com- merce, Washington, D. C. DEAR MR. LowEN: Recently a rumor reached me, although I hope Isn't true, com- pels me to express my viewpoints. I've been told there is a possibility that the contract for limousine and taxi service at Washing- ton National Airport may In the future be offered on a bid basis. Although I'm not entirely sure of the ramifications this pre- sents, on the surface, it would mean to me that a new organization without experience could be awarded this contract on the basis of a lower bid. We have considered ourselves in Washing- tlon to be In a very fortunate position having ground services designed for convenience and service to the passengers. The very fact that this Is a heavily used service tells us that the majority of our passengers re- quire public transportation to reach their home, hotel, or office. Actually, for this majority we feel that their air trip doesn't end until they reach their final destination. We have always felt that the Airport Trans- port, Inc., the present operator, has treated air passengers with the same degree of courtesy and service the airlines display. If this contract Is to be put on a bid basis, we feel that it would cause a great deal of insecurity within the organizational struc- ture of any company being awarded the bid. This insecurity would of necessity re- strict the company from investing in first- class equipment which, of course, would lower the standard of service. In addition, with every succeeding award the experience line would be broken. To properly operate and schedule ground transportation service is extremely involved and complicated. It requires expert personnel who cannot be trained in short periods of time. We feel very complimentary toward the present operator's organization. The per- sonnel, management, and equipment com- prise a closely knit Institution which we have every right to be proud of.' In this city which is a showcase of the world this type service must be outstandingly dignified. It would be most unfortunate to see this service lowered to the level of many of the major cities in the east. Very truly yours, O. E. WILLMAN, District Sales Manager. I certainly hope, Chuck, that nothing will happen to disturb the excellent service our Washington passengers have enjoyed ground- wise, for certainly a good ground service reflects greatly on the air service offered. Hope to see you soon. Sincerely, JOHN P. BROCK. District Sales Manager. EASTERN AIR LreE4, March 9, 1956. Mr. CIrsRLEs LOWEa, Administrator of the Civil Aeronautics Administration, Washington. D. C. DEAR MR. Lowxse: E.tatern Air Lines has a tremendous stake In Washington National Airport and we continually review the as- sociate facilities In relation to our own serv- ice, especially the more dominant ones such as ground transportation. With our heavy commuter services :rom New York and Bos- ton the importance of ground transporta- tion efficiency is second only to our own service and almost equally important In a passenger's decision as to whether to use Washington National Airport at all. These decisions in favor of air travel are respon- sible to us for almost 40,000 passengers per month. I have, therefore, been concerned recently to learn that reconsideration mighirsbe given to the system under which this facility so successfully operates. I can state positively In my 17 years in I.ir transportation, cover- trig a number of cities and countries,'I have never seen better standards of service than those provided by Air Transport, Inc. More particularly, having spent 12 years as East- ern's manager In Washington, I have seen two predecessor operations in action and whereas before Airport Transport arrived the ground transportation problem was a con- tinuing and discouraging one, this has been so completely chanf:ed that our other cities now point to Washington's service as out- standing, as do our passengers. The lengthy delays and erratic service oc- casioned in many o':her cities has been long gone in Wasbingtcn and I can say un- equivocally that any disruption to Airport Transport's excellent program here would be a major disservice to our passengers and to the healthy growth of Washington as an air center. This letter is written only to emphasize my long time feeling In relation to the superior- Ity of Air Transport, Inc., and I would be more than happy to supply any further statements you mig:lt deem necessary. Sincerely yours, HARRISON KNAPP, TraITfc and Sales Manager. Administrator, Civil Aeronautics Admin- istration, Washington, D. C. DEAR CHUCK: As one of the oldest so- called Washington airline officials in the area, I feel I can drop you a personal note on a subject pertaining to the welfare of our airline passengers within range of the Wash- ington National Airport. Through the rumor factory, I have heard that there is some talk of opening up ground transportation facilities to bids from vari- ous operators. Such word Is certainly dis- turbing to one who has worked so closely these many years with all concerned at the airport and particularly with our many good permanent customers. We have found that the present operator, Airport Transport, Inc., has proved to be one of the finest ground transportation companies in the United States. I make the latter statement not only as a personal observation but It is based upon the comments and observations of pas- sengers and other airline officials over a period of several years. Certainly Moe Lerner's outfit has demon- strated the things we all strive for in the airline category which are outstanding serv- ice, equitable fares, and good, clean, well- maintained equipment. DELTA-C. & S. Ant LINES, Atlanta. Ga., April 27, 1956. Hon. CHARLES J. LOWSN, Administrator, Civil Aeronautics Administration, Washington, D. C. DEAR MR, Lowxs : It has been brought to my attention that the contract of Airport Transport. Inc.. at Washington National Air- port will expire on June 30, 1956, and that there Is thinking in some quarters that the continuation of limousine service at Wash- ington National should be the result of com- petitive bidding. Although Delta does not feel that the pro- cedures whereby ground transportation is contracted for Is a matter In which we should Interject ourself, we do know that efficient, adequate, and equl:,ably priced airport-to- city limousine service for our passengers is a matter of importance and direct concern to us. For this reason and Insofar as It may be proper for us to do so I respectfully urge upon July 12 you the continuation of arrangements with the present operator, Airport Transport, Inc., if the same can be done without material or serious prejudice to the Government. The Air Traffic Conference has recognized that ground transportation at airports is an es- sential public service rather than a conces- sion; that it can be beat provided by a single operator as a result of contract negotiation rather than competitive bidding; that, other things being fairly equal, preference should be given to the incumbent operator; and that his contract should be of a continuing nature. We know from years of experience in pro- viding air service to other cities that these considerations work In the interest of good public service. It is not unlikely that a newcomer, lacking knowledge and experience as to the complexities, magnitude, and qual- ity of the job to be done, might submit a lower (higher) bid, but this might well re- sult in inadequate service, Inferior vehicles, or higher charges to the public. Such would certainly not be in the public Interest and hence would not be in the interest of the operator of the airport or of the airlines serving that airport. It has been my observation, since Delta began serving Washington on February 1, 1956, that Airport Transport, Inc., has pro- vided our customers with good, courteous, and efficient service, and I trust that you will not think it too gratuitous of me to direct your attention to these considerations. Very truly yours, Oscoon P. Wu.Lrs, District Sales Manager. JUNE 15, 1956. Col. B. H. GRrnt'rse, Washington National Airport, Washington, D. C. DEAa Br-NNT: I recently addressed a letter to Jim Pyle as Acting Administrator setting forth the policies and views of American Air- lines with respect to ground transportation services and particularly the services at Washington National Airport. American. as that letter pointed out, has found the services of Airport Transport, Inc., most satisfactory. We believe that the serv- ices of this operator have been far superior to any previously operated in Washington. Sincerely yours, MORRIS SHrPLLY, Assistant Vice President. THE RIGGS NATIONAL BANE, May 28, 1956. DIREOTOR. WASHINGTON NATIONAL AIRPoaT, Washington, D. C. DEAR SIR: This letter is written at the re- quest of our valued client, Airport Trans- port, Inc., in connection with their pro- posal for a renewal of their contract for oiler tlon of the ground transportation serv- ice at the Washington National Airport. We have been Informed by Mr. Moe Lerner, pres- ident of the company that in the qualifics- tion data to accompany the proposal there is a question concerning the proposed meth- od of financing such operation. Airport Transport, Inc., has been a client of this bank for the past 16 years and dur- ing that period their relationship here has been excellent. We have made them loans on many occasions in substantial amounts, the aggregate sum of which would approach $1 million and every obligation has been met promptly and satisfactorily. The company has always demonstrated the highest commercial integrity and its offi- cials the highest personal integrity, and the present management is in our opinion the finest the company has enjoyed In Its long and successful career. We are confident the company is entirely capable of managing and financing the continued operation of the ground transportation service at the Wash- Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 1956 Approved g~~~25J?P68R000100200006-2 11373 ington National Airport, and I am pleased to give them our highest endorsement. Yours very truly, ROLAND T. CARR, Vice President. ALEXANDRIA NATIONAL BANK, Alexandria, Va., May 28, 1956. DIRECTOR, WASHINGTON NATIONAL AIRPORT, Washington, D. C. DEAR SIR. This letter is being written in connection with the proposal of Airport Transport, Inc., regarding a renewal of its contract for operation of the ground trans- portation service at the Washington National Airport. Mr. Moe Lerner, president of the Airport Transport, advises us in the qualifi- cation data to accompany this proposal there is a question concerning the financial status of the corporation. We wish to advise you that Airport Trans- port, Inc., has been a most valued customer of this bank for the past 5 years, and during that time our relationship has been excellent. We consider them to be one of our best accounts; and insofar as their methods of audit and fiscal control are concerned, we believe their methods are of the finest. We have never been called upon to, do any financing for them, but in analyzing their financial statements we would not hesitate to take care of any requests we would be able to handle for them,. A number of our personnel, including my- self, have had occasion to use their service from time to time and we have always found the service to be most satisfactory and their employees courteous and considerate. We feel that this is a reflection of the competent management of the company and believe their operation adds immeasurably to the comfort and satisfaction of the airline traveler. Very truly yours, E. GUY RIDGELY, Vice President. MAY 28, 1956. DIRECTOR, WASHINGTON NATIONAL AIRPORT, Washington, D. C. DEAR SIR: It gives me much pleasure to tell you that Mr. Moe Lerner, president, Airport Transport, has been a customer of the B. F. Goodrich Co., 433 I Street NW., Washington, D. C., for many years. We consider Airport Transport one of our most valued customers, and their purchases from us have averaged between $25,000 and $30,000 per year. Statements have always been paid promptly, and all business trans- actions between Airport Transport and The B. F. Goodrich Co. have been handled with the utmost dispatch. As regards their credit standing, we feel that they are in an un- limited position to finance their operations, and, from our experience with this com- pany, there should be no problems involved. Mr. Lerner is a man of high integrity and possesses excellent business ability. Yours very truly, Manager, B. F. Goodrich Co. MAY 28, 1956. Mr. BENNETT H. GRIFFIN, .Director, Washington National Airport, Washington, D. C. DEAR MR. GRIFFIN: The Airport Transport, Inc., operating a limousine service at the Na- tional Airport, has been doing business with us for a period of several years in the nature of purchasing parts, servicing their cars, and purchasing Cadillac limousines. Their annual purchase of limousines, parts, and service has been averaging be- tween $90,000 and $110,000 a year. At the purchase of the new Cadillac limousines they have paid for them at the time they were invoiced by check. Their monthly account has been paid for on or before the 10th of every month, taking advantage of discounts earned on parts purchased. No. 118-18 The Airport Transport, Inc., enjoy one of the highest credit ratings of any organiza- tion doing business with our three compa- nies, and we assure you it has been a most satisfactory account in every respect. Using Cadillac equipment, naturally, has been of great concern with us, and it has been our obligation to assist them in every way to insure at all times prompt and effi- cient Cadillac limousine operation. Therefore, we have no hesitancy in recom- mending Mr. Moe Lerner and his organiza- tion to anyone from a financial standpoint, as they have full and complete knowledge of every phase of the transportation business. Very truly yours, CAPITAL CADILLAC-OLDSMOBILE CO., FLOYD D. AKERS, President. MAY 29, 1956. DIRECTOR, WASHINGTON NATIONAL AIRPORT, Washington, D. C. DEAR SIR: It is our understanding that an inquiry has been made concerning our busi- ness dealings with the Airport Transport, Inc. We have had the great pleasure of selling both cars and parts, amounting to approxi- mately $150,000 a year in gross sales, to the present management, over a period of many years, with unlimited credit. The stability, integrity, and financial standing of the or- ganization has greatly enhanced our rela- tions, and we are confident that the unusual resourcefulness of Mr. Lerner has greatly implemented the outstanding maintenance record of our products in the service of the company. Again, we cannot speak too highly of the Airport Transport, Inc., and Mr. Lerner, and feel that the company's overall performance is a great asset to our city. Very truly yours, L. P. STEUART, President. Mr. CRAMER. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last word. Mr. Chairman, I wish to express my appreciation to the Subcommittee on Agricultural Appropriations and the full Appropriations Committee for the in- terest shown in the very serious problem in Florida- of the eradication of the Mediterranean fruitfly. This is of great importance, and is referred to on page 3 of the committee report under the heading of "Agricultural Research Service." I express appreciation to the commit- tee for its previous action in providing $2,175,000 for the eradiction of the fruit- fly and, in addition, $325,000 for the pur- pose of fighting the burrowing nematode, both of which principally affect the citrus industry in the State of Florida and jeop- ardize many other agricultural products. But in addition to that, I want to ex- press to the very fine chairman of the Subcommittee on Agriculture the fact that on page 580 of the report of the hearings of the subcommittee it was brought out that there was an area of approximately 250,000 acres which was expected to have to be fully treated under this program. I regret to have to inform the House and the chairman that this acreage has substantially increased in the few weeks since action was actually taken on this matter under the Agri- culture Appropriation Act for 1957. Ap- proximately 100,000 acres requires full treatment in my own home county of Pinellas. In addition to that, 80,000 to 90,000 acres require treatment in Lee County to the south, due to unantici- pated additional heavy spread over that expected at the time of the orig- inal hearings. I have been in con- ference, along with many members of the Florida delegation, with the De- partment of Agriculture on this problem since that time. Since it has spread, I have been assured, and as a matter of fact I have been advised, that another $2.5 million, and authority to transfer contingency and other funds for this fruitfly effort to assure adequate addi- tional funds if needed, is going to be re- quested, in that the Bureau of the Budget and the . Department of Agriculture recognize that there remains even a greater need. That has been referred, I believe today, by the Bureau of the Budget to the White House for recom- mendation to your committee and that of the Senate. I just wish to advise you of the increased and continuing need in this particular field. I also wish to advise you of the fact that the Florida Legislature meets in special session. on July 23. The governor himself and the cabinet, in effect, have committed them- selves to recommend to the legislature that all Federal funds spent on this pro- gram be matched with State funds. So, we in Florida expect to do our part on this. I again want to thank the com- mittee and Congress for the great con- sideration and effort put forth in this matter, recognizing that this is a very serious problem and at the same time to express appreciation for the expeditious and effective manner in which the De- partment. of Agriculture and Bureau of the Budget, under President Eisenhow- er's leadership, have met this challenge. I am confident the anticipated further request will be fully considered-favor- ably so-for the facts merit further all- out Federal participation. Mr. EDMONDSON. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr..CRAMER. I yield. Mr. EDMONDSON. Mr. Chairman, I am in favor of this bill, which provides funds to meet some of the.most pressing needs of our Defense Establishment, as well as other Government agencies. One sorely needed item is the sum of $40,219,000 for the Continental Air Com- mand, to finance construction at airports and bases where vital reserve activities are under way. A great job has been done in the past year in greatly stimulating and increas- ing the defense, contribution of the Air Force Reserve, which has an increasingly important mission in the protection of the United States. I personally believe the most produc- tive defense dollars that we spend are invested in activities like the Air Force Reserve and the Air National Guard, and no activities have done more to make our people defense conscious. In the city of Muskogee, in the Second Congressional District of Oklahoma, Z have seen at first hand the operation of this Air Force Reserve program, and the almost phenomenal growth, on a virtual shoe string, of the 713th Fighter-Bomber Squadron at Davis Field. The officers and men of this squadron, at considerable personal sacrifice and long hours of service beyond the call of Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 11374 Approved Fors 5* 63f JR000100200006-2 July 12 duty, have been engaged in making an outfit of which the entire Air Force is proud-and which has added much- needed muscle to our air defense, at low cost to the Government. Maj. Gen. Bill Hall, the hard-working and able Deputy Chief of Staff in Charge of Reserve Activities, has personally paid tribute to the achievements of the Mus- kogee squadron, and appropriately cited it as an example of the great potential in Reserve force development. Maj. Gen. George Finch, the energetic and forceful commander of the 14th Air Force, has played a significant role in the growth of the Muskogee squadron, and has complimented its personnel on squadron achievements. The entire city of Muskogee, and many cities and towns in the area, have joined in magnificent support of the squadron. Mayor Lyman Beard of Muskogee has supplied tireless and resourceful civic leadership for the activity, and Lt. Col. Claude Sledd and Maj. Ray Oatley, the squadron and base commanders, have planned and worked long hours to make an outstanding success of the undertak- ing. "The Muskogee Story," as the Air Force dubbed it, is an inspiring story, and one which I predict will grow in inspiration and glory in the coming years. I am glad to observe that this bill in- cludes money to provide additional safety and efficiency features for Davis Field, home of the 713th, and I strongly urge its passage by the House. Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. Mr. Chairman, I move to $triee out the last word. (By unanimous consent, Mr. HoFF- MAN of Michigan was granted permission to revise and extend his remarks and to speak out of order.) Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. Mr. Chairman, on June 6, 1956, the House Committee on Government Operations adopted and the following noon made general distribution to the press-it had more than 2 weeks previously been re- leased to some reporters-a report of its Public Works and Resources Subcom- mittee, which, for 18 days-beginning on July 19, and ending on October 19, 1955-held hearings concerning the power policies of the Department of the Interior. The report as adopted and publicized carried, among others, recommendation No. 6, which will hereinafter be referred to. July 9, members of the subcommittee received a letter reading: MY DEAR COLLEAGUE: The Public Works and Resources Subcommittee will resume public hearings into the Department of In- terior's Federal power policies starting at 10:30 a. m., Monday. July 16. 1956, in room 362. Old House Office Building. It is expected that the hearings will be conducted during morning and afternoon sessions. Officials of the Department of the Interior, as well as representatives of cer- tain private electric utilities, will be heard at that time, in connection with recommen- dation No. 6 contained in the Committee on Government Operations 18th Intermediate Report, House Report 2279. Cordially yours, EARL CHUDOF#, Member of Con press, Chairman, Pub- lie Works and Resources Subcom- mittee. Accused by Mr. H. Vance Austin, on leave from his employment with the Colorado State A sociation of REA Co- operatives, who, while directing the sub- committee investigation and hearings, was paid out of Federal funds allocated to the committee, the private power com- panies were tried- convicted and, from a practical standl:oint, their liquidation demanded by the subcommittee. They are now apparently belatedly to be given a hearing before the sentence is carried out. Before commenting on the report gen- erally, let us look briefly at recommenda- No. 6, which is to provide the basis of the hearing about to be held: 16) Congress laur.ch a full-scale joint in- vestigation by both Houma to determine whether or not the?e is an organized effort of the private power companies to influence the Federal administration, the Congress. the governments of the States, and the political life of the Nation. In spite of the tact that this investiga- tion has not yet been made, the commit- tee, in the report above referred to, wrote-page 9: The announced administration policy is identical with that of the companies. It is designated to destroy the Federal power pro- gram and eliminate every ventage of opposi- tion to the establishment of a complete pri- vate power monopoly in the United States. In carrying It out, the activities of the In- terior Department aid the private companies are completely coordinated In each regionof the country. The committee represented this con- clusion as being based upon hearings. If so. why stage another set of hearings to find out what thel already claim to have discovered? If not justified by the'pi'e- vious hearings, the committee is guilty of deliberate misrepresentation. Since the committee, true to form, has already prejudged the case with regard to recommendaticn No. 6, the proposed hearings can be designed only to produce more political ki:owatts for the cam- paign. Apparently, the proposed hearings are a belated attempt to justify a judgment already handed cut by the committee. Mr. Chairman, let us consider for a moment the status of the report-the re- port which contains recommendation No. 6. This report was committed to the Committee of the Whole House on the State of the Unirn and ordered to be printed on June 'I. 1956. To this date, Mr. Chairman. more than 1 month later, printed copies are still not available. Why is the majority reluctant to re- lease this report find why is the major- ity resuming its hearings while holding its report in abeyance? Apparently, the suppressed printing of a report of the Committee on Govern- ment Operations, which is entitled "Ef- fect of Department of Interior and REA Policies on Public Power Preference Cus- tomers," has not had the political effect which the majority had hoped would fol- low its release to the press. This lack of effectiveness may be due to the fact that not even the majority can agree on it. So, this being ar. election year, the sub- committee is off on another witch hunt, although knowing full well that, as usual, during the last 2 or 3 weeks of the session, there will be no opportunity to write legislation based on these hearings. The hearings will, however, serve po- litical ends by keeping Members off the floor, where from day to day important bills are up for action. Perhaps intrigued by the example set by the Supreme Court of filing several opinions giving diverse reasons for affirming or reversing a lower court's de- cision, 5 members of the majority, who voted Apr the adoption of the report-2 of the1~ members of the subcommittee which conducted the hearings-felt themselves compelled to file additional views which conflict with the majority report which they had just voted to adopt. Upon one issue the majority members were unanimous. They were apparently in wholehearted accord with their Demo- cratic colleagues who were reporting that those who are exercising authority in the Department of the Interior should be kicked out of office and that at the next election the present Republican admin- istration and officeholders should be sup- planted by Democrats. The House committee voted 16 to 12- strictly along party lines-to file this so- called majority report. This being the case, and since 5 of the 16 Democrats actually do not agree with the report, is It in fact a majority report? Five from 16 leaves a minority of 11. Add the 5 dissenting majority mem- bers to the 12 minority members who condemned the hearings as being unfair, and you have in effect a majority of 17 members of the committee who did not subscribe to the majority report. The report is a baldly political docu- ment designed entirely to serve but two purposes: To discredit the Eisenhower administration and to crucify an in- dustry vitally important to our national life and well-being. The only valid claim that it is a ma- jority report lies in the fact that it was adopted and reported out by the mem- bers of the political party which happens, at the moment, to have a slender voting margin in the Congress-even though five of those so voting apparently just could not swallow and deep down the obviously unfair methods followed by the subcommittee nor the conclusions set forth in the report. Five times the gentleman from North Carolina [Mr. FOUNTAIN], in his addi- tional views, calls attention to the fact that-see subsequent quotations-the basic American principle that the accused should not be convicted without a hearing, was disregarded by the sub- committee during its hearings. The gentleman from Virginia, Mr. PORTER HARDY, JR., in his additional views, simply stated : I am in substantial agreement with Mr. FOUNTAIN's additional views. Another member of the committee, the Honorable JOE M. KILGORE, wrote: I voted to adopt the committee report so that the report in Its entirety might be brought to the attention of the Congress. However, I do not subscribe to all the con- clusions and recommendations contained therein. The Honorable DANTE B. FASCELL and ROBERT H. MOLLOHAN submitted addi- tional views to emphasize certain points which they wrote "need emphasizing." Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approved, or N Release ONAL/RE 1956 RDP 6 5R000100200006-2 11375 They pointed out that there were, In lessly. Not only were .representatives of their opinion, defects in the present law private power companies denied the governing the Interior Department, and right to be heard, but their industry was in addition, frankly stated that because subjected to the basest sort of attack of the present legislative situation they principally through innuendo and dis- to criticize private utilities for not enter- ing into wheeling arrangements." These two members of the committee apparently not only realised that the au- thority of the subcommittee to. go into the activities of the private power com- panies was doubtful but that the com- panics had been condemned without a hearing. They also criticized the subcommittee because it charged private utilities with improper conduct without giving them an opportunity to be heard. With one conclusion reached by the gentleman from Florida [Mr. FAscELL] and by the gentleman from West Vir- ginia [Mr. MOLLOHAN], I cannot agree. They wrote: We do not interpret the report and we do not believe it can or should be interpreted as a document expressing a philosophy for the future development of the power re- sources of this country solely by the Federal Government or other public authorities. (Conversely, it is equally clear that all power development should not be undertaken ex- clusively by private industry, particularly with reference to those resources which are and have been in the public domain. As I listened to the hearings, as I read the stenographic transcript, as I read the report, I could reach but one con- clusion, which was that the subcommit- tee's sole effort was to bring about a socialization of the electrical power industry. With the conclusion of those two gen- tlemen who stated that "A study of the history of the development of power, both public and private, indicates clearly that it is for the best interests of the public to have two-way development," I am in complete accord. The very fact that the report travels under the guise of a "majority" opinion is completely in accord with the manner in which this and other investigations of this subcommittee have been handled- beginning with the hit-and-run hearings during which persons were accused of misconduct or violations of the law, then denied the right to be heard, followed by As has just been pointed out, this was underscored by Representatives DANTE 13. FASCELL, of Florida, and ROBERT H. MoL- LoHAN, of West Virginia, both members of the investigating subcommittee. In their additional views, Representatives FASCELL and MOLLOHAN came to the de- fense of private power companies and at the same time recognized the difficult position of the Federal Government in negotiating wheeling contracts. Permit me to quote from their statement: In the case of a wheeling contract, it Is necessary to bring together three parties into agreement; the Federal Government (pro- ducer), the private utility (transmission agent), and the preference customer. This must be done voluntarily. It is obviously an arms-length transaction for the private utility and the preference customer-with the Government in all cartes being in the middle attempting to satisfy both parties and, at the same time, implement Federal power policy as intended by Congress. Fur- thermore, why should a private utility wheel public power to its competitor preference customer when the private utility is buying the public power at dump rates because it Is the only available user? Because of this situation, we do not feel it is proper to condemn and to criticize pri- vate utilities for not entering into wheeling arrangements. They are a private enterprise engaged in making a profit and while it is not unusual for a businessman to do busi- ness with his competitors, it would be ridiculous to assume that he would not try to get the best possible deal for himself. This is a duty that private management of a utility has to itself and its stockholders. They have no responsibility under the law for imuplementing Federal power policy and they have no responsibility under the law for assisting the preference customers who are in most cases their competitors or poten- tial competitors for business. In fact, we are surprised under conditions as they exist, that any wheeling contracts have been entered into by private utility companies. Ob- viously, they have only been entered into where the company felt the economic bene-_ fit and advantages to the company far out- weighed any asistance which they might be giving to their competitor, the preference customers. the filing of a report which prejudges Mr. Chairman, I interrupt the quota- a case which never had been heard and tion to call particular attention to the which, indeed, was not properly an issue, following paragraph written by Rep?re- The stated purpose of the investiga- sentatives FASCELL and MOLLOHAN. I re- tion was to ascertain "the effect of the sume quoting: administrative acts and policies of the Since the extensive hearings held by this present officials of the Department of subcommittee deal with the effect of pres- the Interior and the Rural Electrifica- ent administrative action and policies of the tion Administration on rural electric Department of the Interior and the Rural cooperatives, public bodies, and munici- Electric Administration on the implementa- pal electric systems." The intermediate tion of Federal power policy as it may affect port supposedly dealt with the findings preference customers, we feel that any ref- report that investigation, erence as to the unwillingness of private utilities to wheel or the strong terms sought Nowhere in the stated purpose, as by them in their negotiations for wheeling quoted above from the introductory contracts, should be considered in these statement of the majority report, can i hearings only in the light of pointing out find aiiy reference to the Investigation the position that the private utilities take embracing policies and business prac- under existing law and administration, and the tices of private utilities. - Yet through- difficulties stances s of the Implementation that exist atof these circum- tices Federal out the report this important segment power policy; but should not be considered of our Nation's free-enterprise economic in the light of condemnation, if their actions system is attacked viciously and ruth- and performances are that of an ordinary businessman acting in a reasonable and prudent manner in the operation of his business. The report presupposes the interest and the desire of the private-utility companies to change Federal power policy. Obviously they have some. feeling on the matter and take every opportunity, manner, and means to express their feelings and thoughts on the subject. What efforts, individually or in concert, private power compaies are exerting in attempting to change through adminis- trative means the Federal power policy as expressed by Congress, is not in my opinion a subject matter of even indirect considera- tion in the present report, and therefore, we disagree with any references to that effect which may be in the present report. We be- lieve that the-subject matter of the influence and interest that private-utility companies have on the administration of Federal power policy is certainly a proper one for congres- sional interest. We further believe that private utilities should be given every oppor- tunity to be heard and to present their views on the subject, and-we are hopeful that the Congress will see fit at an early date to un- dertake the consideration and study of the part private-utility companies have played and are playing in the implementation of public power policy under the present ad- ministration. A study of the history of the development of power, both public and private, indicates clearly that it is for the best interests of the public to have two-way development. Permit me to call your attention to this latter statement. It is a definitive- though simplified-enunciation of the basis for the partnership concept of the Eisenhower administration. The Eisen- hower administration. certainly believes that it is in the best public interest to have two-way development. Never, to the best of my knowledge, have any ad- ministration spokesmen argued other- wise. President Eisenhower himself, In his first state of the Union message, said: The best natural resource program will not result from exclusive dependence on Federal bureaucracy. It will involve a partnership of the States and local communities, private citizens, and the Federal Government, all working together. The statement Of Mr. FASCELL, with which Mr. MOLLOHAN agreed, is a frank admission that the policies pursued by the Department of the Interior under Secretary McKay and Under Secretary Davis are sound, and should be followed. It is a repudiation of the report itself. The gentleman from North Carolina [Mr. FOUNTAIN] speaking of the majority report, said he does not "necessarily fully subscribe to all of its language, conclu- sions, and recommendations." That, permit me to comment, repre- sents a classic in understatement. Rep- resentative FOUNTAIN does not merely decline to subscribe to the terms of the so-called majority report. If my under- standing is correct, he takes rather vio- lent exception to it, as reflected by his separate views in which the gentleman from North Carolina noted the report's context, and declared: I seriously doubt the wisdom and the fair- ness, however, of those conclusions and rec- ommendations in the report which amount to a blanket criticism of all private power companies without any power company hav- ing had an opportunity to be heard. Since Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2. 11376 Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD- HOUSE private power companies were not being in- They cite chapter and verse from both vestigated at this time, and since they were the majority report and the 1,686 pages denied an opportunity to be heard. I believe of printed hearings in support of their it is only fair play that the report should position. not have contained such sweeping conclu- sions regarding them. An extremely sober note is sounded by For example, recommendation No. a of the the minority members when they say: subcommittee was that "Congress launch a The majority report, which is purported to full-scale joint investigation by both Houses be based on hearings, is more than just a to determine whether or not there is an pamphlet of political bins; it is an attack of organized effort of the private power com- calculated Insidiousness upon the American panies to Influence the Federal administra- system of free enterprise. tion. the Congress, the governments of the The venom with which the author of the States, and the political life of the Nation." report attacks private enterprise and the A d t i l i N n ye , n conc us on o. 8 on page 9 of the report the subcommittee said: "The announced administration policy is Identical with that of the companies. It is designed to destroy the Federal power pro- gram,and eliminate every vestige of opposi- tion to the establishment of a complete pri- vate power monopoly in the United States. In carrying it out, the activities of the Inter- ior Department and the private companies are completely coordinated In each region of the country." Since the Investigation recommended has not been made, it seems to me that conclu- sion No. 8 and other blanket denunciations of all power companies before the companies have had a chance to be beard, should not have been in this report. The report indicates that two companies in my own State were denied the privilege of testifying during the hearings. Let me pause here, Mr. Chairman, to emphasize what the gentleman from North Carolina, Representative Fovx- TAIN, recognized when he chose to quote those portions of his colleagues' report. It is Incredible that a congressional group would recommend undertaking an investigation and, before the investiga- tion had been held, announce its conclu- sions which, by no stretch of the Imagin- ation, could be arrived at before the com- pletion of the investigation of the nature , they had just recommended. In the concluding paragraph of his additional views, Representative FoUN- TAIN took note of the position of the pri- vate power industry in the Nation's economic fabric. He concluded: I have frequently disagreed with policies and activities of some of the power com- panies and I have not resitated to publicly express my disagreement. However, they are an integral, necessary, essential, and signifi- cant segment of our economy and private enterprise system in America. Both private and public utilities are essential to our way of life and in the best interests of the gen- eral public. Nevertheless, whether or not we agree with the policies and'or activities of private utilities, if their policies and ac- tivities are to be investigated, before they are judged. they should be afforded the op- portunity to be heard and to present their views, regardless of whether or not their what I know of the manner in which the testimony would change the views of the hearings were conducted the lack of , committee. They should receive a fair hear- orderly procedure which characterized ing and careful consideration should be given the hearings, and the absence of evi- to the evidence they present. After that Is Bence to sustain the findings, and the done, let the chips fall where they may, political philosophy which apparently The Republican members of the Sub- motivated the conclusions expressed. In committee on Public Works and Re- the report, it is obvious that the purpose sources on the House side filed a minority was to discredit grivate enterprise and report which should be read it the real the administration, lend support to the duly 12 procedure was attacked, who were charged with violations of Federal law, until long after the charges were aired. Private companies were pilloried, de- nied a hearing, an opportunity for re- buttal; unwarranted attacks were made upon individuals to whom credit-not discredit-is due. The same subcommittee, on another occasion when holding joint hearings on timber with a Senate subcommittee, dis- closed its determination to discourage those charged with improper conduct from presenting a defense and even from hearing firsthand the charges made against them. On one occasion, at Eu- gene, Oreg., officials and employees of the Department of the Interior were re- quired to stand-be counted-and were then charged with a neglect of duty be- cause they were attending hearings where they were numbered among the defendants, castigated, misused, and abused because they were not out in the field attending to their duties, but were listening, waiting an opportunity to be heard. All but 1 of the 13 employees who were at the hearing were Interested as indi- viduals, as American citizens, as em- ployees who were being criticized and who were on duty in the vicinity. The only one from Washington who was pres- ent was a representative sent out by the Department to assist in ascertaining the facts, Mr. Chairman, the investigation, the hearings, the report are a shameful ex- hibition of misdirected congressional in- vestigative activities-a reflection upon the intelligence, the fairness of the Con- gress. It is an insult to the intelligence and sense of fair play of the American people. The investigations and the hearings held by this subcommittee show a studied, deliberate effort to lend sub- stance to a groundless political attack upon Secretary of the Interior McKay, upon Under Secretary Davis, and back of that, upon the administration's policy of protecting enterprise, of checkmating nationalization of the power industry. That the whole proceeding from its inception a year ago last February down to the present date was an attmept to create political propaganda, is shown by the fact that when Secretary Seaton was appointed by the President as Secretary of the Interior, his appointment was loudly praised by two Members of the other body-Senator MossE, who is a candidate for office; the other Senator N?UBERr,ER, one of the arch opponents of Secretary McKay-this, notwithstand- ing the fact, and it is a fact, that both the President and Secretary Seaton have frankly stated that the policy which guided former Secretary McKay and Under Secretary Davis, insofar as it af- fects hydroelectric power, will be con- tinued and carried out. Mr. DORN of South Carolina. Mr. The minority report, signed by all mi- defeat the reelection of others. -- v word, and I ask unanimous consent to nority members of the subcommittee and The record is replete with facts indi- proceed out of order. concurred in by all the minority members eating the witnesses were recruited with The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection? of the full committee, calls attention to but one purpose .n mind. They were There was no objection, grievous mishandling of the whole sub- biased. The record shows that the sub- Mr. DORN of South Carolina. Mr. ject at Issue, as reflected by the majority committee refused to hear representa- Chairman, it is my pleasure to announce report and the conduct of the hearings. tives of the exec'itive agencies whose to you that the delicious peaches now in Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 administration alike seems symptomatic of something more baneful than political par- tisanship. The undersigned (minority members) would be derelict In their responsibility to the American people if they failed to expose this advocacy of nationalization by those who. In the guise Df defenders of the rural electrification program, have managed to have their manife::to cloaked with the au- thority of a congressional committee. To the extent that the majority report attacks economic freedom, It attacks an in- tegral part of our liberty and Independence. At other points in the minority report, the Republican members of the House group completely disassociated them- selves from the unjust criticism heaped upon the Department of the Interior and the REA, and. in fact, take the position that officials of those agencies should be commended rather than condemned. I subscribe wholeheartedly to this view. Officials of the Department of the In- terior and the REA in the present ad- ministration in these matters have acted In accordance with both the letter and the spirit of the law as they found it. They have surmounted great obstacles and successfully resolved difficult situa- tions in many instances. Like other Members of both House of Congress, I recognize the value of main- taining congressional security of execu- tive branch activities. It is one of our duties to keep a watchful eye on their planning and spending and doing-an integral part of the governmental sys- tem of checks and balances envisioned by our Nation's Founding Fathers. In discharging this duty, however, It behooves us to approach the task fairly and seriously, and-may I add-with courtesy, common sense, and having al- ways in mind the Golden Rule, We do not hold a mandate to stage a political circus. Nor are we authorized nor does common decency permit us to institute and carry on an Inquisition or a persecu- tion of those with whom we disagree. In my opinion, based upon what has been learned of the investigations, upon Approved- Release 2004/08/25: CIA-RDP63T0O 5R000100200006-2 1956 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -HOUSE 11377, the cloakroom were sent with the com- pliments of L. D. Holmes & Sons, of Stately Oaks Plantation, near Johnston, S. C. These peaches were on the tree at noon Tuesday. They were gathered by Mr. Holmes and sent directly to the United States Congress. Mr. Holmes and sons are owners of one of the most modern and up-to-date peach orchards in South Carolina. It is located in the heart of the famous sand ridge section. Mr. Holmes has been one of the outstanding pioneer and diversi- fied farmers In the history of the South- east. He was named Master Farmer of South Carolina some years ago and is looked upon by many of us as the dean emeritus of South Carolina agriculture. Mr. Holmes has two fine sons who are also tremendously interested in agricul- ture and are following in the footsteps of their father. Mr. Holmes is not only noted for his success in growing peaches but has been successful in the raising of cattle, cotton, truck, and corn. For a number of years he has urged the South to keep its fields green in the wintertime and not to de- pend on one crop. Johnston is located In historic old Edgefleld County. Edgefleld County for a century and a half has been noted for its governors, senators, generals, and statesmen. Edgefield County now ranks high in the production of peaches, cattle, and pine trees, and I might add, Mr. Chairman, is still producing great Amer- icans. Mr. Chairman, I am happy to add that L. D. Holmes is a strong believer in our American form of representative government. He is a States righter and for a number of years has opposed social- ism and centralization of government in Washington. I hope all of you will enjoy these fine peaches sent to you by a great American who Is proud of his Congress and proud of his country. If any of you are visiting South Carolina, Mr. Holmes would be happy to have you drop by and see his beautiful home and splendid farm. Mr. GROSS. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. DORN of South Carolina. I yield. Mr. GROSS. It is not necessary to sign a Southern manifesto in order to get one, is it? Mr. DORN of South Carolina. There is no partisanship involved in this at all. This is from a great American to the Congress of the United States. However, I would like to see the gentleman from Iowa sign the manifesto. (Mr. DORN of South Carolina asked and was granted permission to revise and extend his remarks.) Mr. LANHAM. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last word, and I ask unanimous consent to proceed out of order. The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from Georgia? There was no objection. Mr. LANHAM. Mr. Chairman, to answer the gentleman's question about signing the Southern manifesto, I think it would help a lot in the distribution Of Mr. DORN's peaches, but as the gentleman from South Carolina has said, it is not necessary. Mr. Chairman, I rose because appar- entiy something I said -on yesterday offended my good friend, the very genial and lovable minority leader, whom I would not offend for the world, the gen- tleman from Massachusetts [Mr. MAR- Tm]. He made a statement on the floor that I want to ask him to correct, and I am sure he will. He said, "While we are talking about inaccuracies, I want to say that the gentleman from Georgia made a false statement when he said that Robert Montgomery was training me or anyone else!' I did not make that statement. The gentleman was not on the floor, and I am sure he was misinformed about what I said. What I said was that I had heard that he had been under the tutelage of Robert Montgomery, and I thought maybe that accounted for the blooper he made on Monday, when he referred to General Motors. I have stricken my entire statement about him from the RECORD, and upon mature consideration I am sure that the rumor was not true, and that the gen- tleman has not had any training in pub- lic speaking by Mr. Robert Montgomery, "or anyone else" as he says. Mr. SIKES. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last word. Mr. Chairman, although my district is not directly affected, we who represent the great State of Florida are jointly concerned with the gravity of the threat of the Mediterranean fruitfly. We are seeking jointly to insure adequate funds from Federal appropriations to match State funds with which to carry on the struggle for eradication. This is indeed a serious matter which no person should take lightly. I now yield to one whose district is very directly affected, and who with the other members of our delega- tion has been active in seeking adequate funds. . Mr. ROGERS of Florida. Will the gentleman yield? Mr. SIKES. I will be glad to yield to my colleague from Florida. Mr. ROGERS of Florida. The Florida delegation wishes to express to the Ap- propriations Committee and in particu- lar the Agricultural Subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee, its profound gratitude and thanks from the people of Florida for its considerate un- derstanding and help in setting up a pro- gram for the eradication of the Mediter- ranean fruitfly in Florida. When this emergency was brought to the attention of the Agricultural Subcommittee of the Appropriations Committee, hearings which had been closed were again opened so that we might present neces- sary testimony to show the need for an appropriation to start a quick eradica- tion program. The Appropriations Com- mittee was sympathetic and as a result funds were appropriated in the amount of $2,500,000 of which $2,175,000 was al- located for the Mediterranean fruitfly and the remainder for the fight on spreading decline. Since this action of the Congress In approving the money, the Mediterra- nean fruitfly has spread from the first areas located until It is now In many parts of Florida, including the heart of the citrus industry. At the time we presented our problem to the Appropria- tions Committee we stated that if there was a spread of the Mediterranean fruit- fly that more funds would be needed. The Department of Agriculture in recog- nition of this statement and under the conditions that now exist in Florida is requesting an additional $2,500,000 which is being approved by the Bureau of the Budget to be. submitted to the Congress to carry on this very important program. It has been stated by Senator HOLLAND that he is making a request for the in- clusion of this additional amount in the Senate bill and we are hopeful and urg- ing that the Members of the House will approve the appropriation of these funds until the program has been successful in eradicating the Mediterranean fruit- fly. I am sure that the Members of the House know that the entire southern one-third of the United States could be infested with this insect and cause un- told damage. The Florida delegation thanks the Ap- propriations Committee and the Mem- bers of this House for the fine help we have received and in closing would like to urge that you help us to bring this fight to a proper conclusion. Governor Collins advised me only yesterday that the State will do its share in matching these funds on a 50-59 basis. (Mr. SIKES asked and was given per- mission to revise and extend his re- marks.) Mr. CHUDOFF. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the pro forma amendment and ask unanimous consent to speak out of order. The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from Pennsylvania? There was no objection. Mr. CHUDOFF. Mr. Chairman, I am sorry that a long distance call from Philadelphia made it necessary for me to be called off the floor when the gen- tleman from Michigan started to tear apart the majority of the Public Works and Resources Subcommittee of the Committee on Government Operations in his usual manner. He has done it on numerous occasions during the session. I have no quarrel with him for it, because he has not agreed with the majority since we started out on the investiga- tions during the past 2 years. How- ever, I walked into the tail end of the complaint made by the gentleman from Michigan. So far as I could ascertain he was complaining bitterly that private power companies had not had an oppor- tunity to be heard. For the benefit of the Members of the House, although I do not know that they will have time to attend our hearings, let me say that on Monday we are going to give the private power companits of the Rocky Mountain States a chance to tell everything to the subcommitte, to tell us how they tried to influence and have influenced the interior Department to wipe out the previous public power policy of the Government of the United States; and we are going to show by Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 11378 Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE July 12 competent evidence and testimony that they did just that. Mr. Chairman, I yield back the bal- ance of my time. Mr. SCRIVNER. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last word. Mr. Chairman, I take this time merely to say that we have before us today a rather important appropriation mea- sure, and much as I dislike to do so, I shall have to object to any further re- quests to speak out of order. The Clerk read as follows: nUREAU OF PUBLIC ROADS Jones Point Bridge For expenses necessary for the construc- tion of a bridge over the Potomac River pursuant to the provisions of the act of August 30. 1954 (68 Stat. 983. 984), as amended, $14,325.000. to remain available until expended: Provided, That the unex- pended balance of the appropriation granted under this head In the Second Supplemental Appropriation Act. 1955. Is hereby merged with this appropriation: Provided further, That this paragraph shall be effective only upon the final consummation of agreements for the maintenance and operation of the bridge and approaches by the States of Vlr- glnla and Maryland. Mr. GROSS. Mr, Chairman, I offer an amendment. The Clerk read as follows: Amendment offered by Mr. GROSS: Page 4. strike out all of lines 1 through 13. (Mr. GROSS asked and was given per- mission to revise and extend his re- marks.) Mr. GROSS. Mr. Chairman, this amendment would stop the construction of a free bridge across the Potomac River from Alexandria, Va., to Maryland at the expense of $15 million to all the taxpayers of the country. I repeat that what is proposed here is to build a bridge from Alexandria, Va., to an unspecified point in Maryland, with the taxpayers of the country paying for it. A few days ago enabling legislation passed the House of Representatives to construct a bridge from Constitution Avenue across into Virginia. That will entail the expenditure of $22 million to $24 million. I did not oppose that legis- lation because that. will directly relieve traffic congestion, or I hope it will re- lieve congestion, in the District of Co- lumbia. This Alexandria bridge has nothing but an indirect connection with traffic in the District of Columbia. Let me read to you what the official report of the Appropriations Committee says in con- nection with it: Insofar as the committee is advised, this Is the first time Federal funds have been appropriated to cover the full coat of con- structing a bridge between two States with neither end touching the District of Co- lumbia. It goes on to say it does not feel that approval of this appropriation estab- lishes any precedent. Certainly it will establish a precedent if this appropria- tion is approved. It will be an open in- vitation to every Member of Congress to seek an Interstate bridge, with the taxpayers of the entire country paying the freight. To those who contend It will relieve the traffic congestion in the District of Columbia by build-rig a bridge at Jones Point at Alexandria, Va., across over into Maryland, I ask how long it will be be- fore someone comes in and seeks to jus- tify the building of a bridge, at the ex- pense of all the taxpayers of this coun- try, somewhere aong Route 301 that runs from Baltimore south to Richmond, or west of Norfolk crossing the Potomac River somewhere in between. Why should these people come in and ask the taxpayers of the entire country to build frce bridges across other streams on that route in order to allegedly relieve the traffic congestion in the District of Columbia? Mr. Chairman, only a few weeks ago a bridge was completed across the river on Highway 30 between Illinois and Iowa. That bridge was built out of private funds. When I go back to Iowa I will pay a toll to cross that bridge. I do not get across the Mississippi River into Iowa without paying a toll. A short time ago the bridge across the Mississippi River near Muscatine, Iowa, collapsed and my colleagte from Iowa LMr. SCHWENGELI obtained legislative au- thorization for the construction of a new toll bridge with )rivate money, mind you, I suggested to him at that time that he probably ojght to wait until this bill came to the House floor, then he could probably justify asking for a free bridge, the cost of which would be sad- dled on all the taxpayers. I labor under no delusion about the support this will undoubtedly have on the floor of the House this afternoon, and so I wish my colleague from Iowa [Mr. SCI3WENGELI had waited until this appropriation passed so that he could offer a bill and then see if you are willing to underwrite the cost of bridges all over the Nation, Mr. HAYS of Ohio. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. GROSS. I am glad to yield to the gentleman from Ohio. Mr. HAYS of Ohio. There is a lot of congestion on Route 40 at Wheeling, W. Va. If they are going to hand out these free bridges I would like to put in a bid for one over there. . Mr. GROSS. I think the members should also know that the State of Mary- land is not even building the approach to the bridge on that side of the river. You are being called upon to spend a halt million dollars for the Maryland approach to this bridge. These two States of Virginia and Maryland can build this bridge. Make it a toll bridge if you like. There are automatic devices today for the collection of tolls. We have heard a great deal recently about private enterprise. It will be in- teresting to see how some members vote, for this Is certainty a clear-cut issue as between private enterprise and a $15 million gravy train of Federal paternal- ism. Mr. Chairman, I hope my amendment will be adopted. Mr. PRESTON. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent that all debates on the pending amendment and all amend- ments thereto close in 15 minutes. The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from Georgia? There was no objection. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair rec- ognizes the gentleman from Virginia LMr. BROYHMLI. Mr. BROYHILL. Mr. Chairman, I rise In opposition to the -pending amend- ment. Mr. Chairman, this subject has been thoroughly debated in this Congress and in the preceding Congresses. In fact for the last 4 years or more. The bridge was authorized in the 83d Congress. Then we came back during this Congress and amended the Bridge Authorization Act to improve the original legislation. It was considered, I believe, on two pre- vious occasions by the Appropriations Committee. That committee delayed ap- propriations until we could get this per- fecting legislation through the Congress. Last year the Congress appropriated $600.000 to start planning of the bridge. Those plans are pretty well under way at the present time. Mr. Chairman, this bridge Is primarily for the benefit of the Nation's Capital. We have the greatest amount of river crossing here in the metropolitan area of Washington across the Potomac River than in any other section of the en- tire world, and this Includes the Hud- son River between New York and New Jersey. The construction of this bridge at Jones Point is to relieve some of this intolerable congestion of traffic here in the center of Washington. It is to pull the traffic around and get the majority of the truck traffic and some of this through traffic to by-pass the congested streets of Washington. Many of the Members of this body who live in Vir- ginia have to use the 14th Street and the Memorial Bridges, and they know what I am talking about. And, I guess all the Members know about the conges- tion on Independence Avenue, 40 per- cent of which we can eliminate if we can get the construction of this bridge to by-pass Washington. As far as it not being in the District is concerned, it is technically a matter of feet. The bridge actually crosses the District in the Po- tomac River. If it was shifted 150 feet upstream, it would begin in Virginia and come into the District of Columbia, the same as the Central area bridge which was approved the other day. Mr. Chairman, I hope there will be no further delay in the approval of these funds so that we can go on and proceed with construction. It is urgently needed, Any further delay will just further ag- gravate an already intolerable situation in the Nation's Capital. This is a met- ropolitan area problem, a National Capi- tal problem, and not a situation to suit the people of Virginia or Maryland. The taxpayers of Virginia and Maryland are spending millions of dollars for the ap- proaches to this bridge, so it is not that the Federal Government is paying 100 percent of it, except just the cost of the bridge itself. And, the States of Vir- ginia and Maryland are going to share in the maintenance of the bridge. Mr. GROSS. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. BROYHILL. I yield to the gen- tleman from Iowa. Mr. GROSS. Can the gentleman tell me how many millions of dollars the tax- payers have paid for the bridges that Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approved,Eor Release 2004/08/25: CIA-RDP63T 45R000100200006-2 1956 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -- HOUSE - span the Potomac and now serve his district? Mr. BROYHILL. Do you mean in the metropolitan area? Mr. GROSS. Jones Point is not in the metropolitan area. Mr. BROYHILL. It most certainly is. In fact, every major plan for a solution of the traffic problem here in Washing- ton calls for a circumferential belt bou- levard around Washington, D. C., in or- der to alleviate the traffic right here in the Nation's Capital. It is not for the benefit of the people of Maryland and Virginia alone but also for all the people of the country that travel to the Nation's Capital. I urge that this amendment be de- feated. (Mr. BROYHILL asked and was given permission to revise and extend his re- marks.) The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog- nizes the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. HAYS]. Mr. HAYS of Ohio. Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of this amendment, and I want to point out to you some things that I think you might be overlooking. A good many Members of this House reside temporarily in northern Virginia, and I submit to you if there is any place in the United States that takes more away from the people and gives them less than that area, I would like to know where it is. Now, this Is a realistic proposition, and if we tax the taxpayers of the United States to build a bridge primarily to benefit this area of northern Virginia, it only means that the government down at Richmond would milk the taxpayers over in northern Virginia even more to build things down in southern Virginia. It is a known fact that they do not take care of northern Virginia. It is a known fact that the Federal Government has gone over there and built highways. If you want to get any highways out through those counties, the Federal Gov- ernment has to build them. The States of Pennsylvania, Ohio, and New Jersey have built turnpikes, and they are chan- neling traffic into the city of Chicago by thousands and thousands of cars. Is the city of Chicago coming in and asking the Federal Government to do something about it? No. They are going to spend $80 million of their own money to pro- vide exits from these turnpikes. I think it is high time that we call on the States of Virginia and Maryland to meet their obligations and build this bridge. There is just as much justification for building a bridge across the Potomac from Vir- ginia to Maryland as there is for build- ing a bridge in every State of the Union where a river is the State boundary line. if the taxpayers build this bridge across from Maryland to Virginia, I do not see any- reason why they should not build 11379 The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog- fornia [Mr. Moss] that the District offi- nizes the gentleman from Maryland cials have always supported the con- [Mr. DEVEREUx] for 3 minutes. struction of this bridge and have always Mr. DEVEREUX. Mr. Chairman, I pleaded for the construction of the rise in opposition to the amendment bridge because it was necessary to alle- is th D' - principally to set the record straight. The gentleman from Iowa [Mr. GROSS] In offering his amendment suggested that perhaps this would lead to building a bridge over the lower Potomac connect- ing Maryland and Virginia on Route 301. I am happy to announce to the House that we do have a bridge over the river at route 301. So far as giving something to the State of Maryland is concerned, to set the record straight, actually the whole of the District of Columbia, as it now stands, was given to the Federal Government by the State of Maryland. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog- nizes the gentleman from Maryland [Mr. LANxFORD] for 3 minutes. Mr. LANKFORD. Mr. Chairman, there seems to be a little misunderstand- ing about the Jones Point Bridge. The gentleman from Iowa [Mr. GROSS] and the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. HAYS] spoke of the benefits to the State of Maryland and the State of Virginia. The gentleman from Ohio [Mr. HAYS] spoke primarily of benefiting northern Virginia. I cannot speak for the State of Virginia, but I can speak for my own State, the State of Maryland. We are happy to cooperate with the District of Columbia In building a bridge across the Potomac to relieve the traffic congestion in the District of Columbia. We will derive no appreciable benefit from the Jones Point Bridge other than that the citizens of Maryland will not have to cross the already crowded bridges across the Potomac in this area. Concerning the fact that the bridge Is not In the District of Columbia, I think if the gentleman from Iowa were to go up and down the Potomac River he would find that the shoreline of the District of Columbia is limited and that you can get only just so many bridges across. They had to go to the next best place to put it, since it could not be in the District of Columbia. So they put it between Jones Point and Alexandria. This bridge is designed to take truck traffic through the Capital, off the streets of the Federal city of Washing- ton and benefit all the millions of peo- ple who visit our Capital every year. Mr. MOSS. Mr. Chairman, will the viate the traffic congestion 1n trict of Columbia. Mr. MOSS. Mr. Chairman, would the gentleman yield further at that point? Mr. LANKFORD. I yield. Mr. MOSS. My statement was not that they have opposed the bridge but that they oppose underwriting any of the cost of maintaining it because of lack of benefit to the District. Mr. BROYHILL. The District Com- missioners oppose sharing the cost of maintenance. The highway department agreed to share the cost of main- tenance, not because it did not help the District of Columbia but under the same technicality on which the gentleman from Iowa is opposing the construction of the bridge. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog- nizes the gentleman from Georgia [Mr. PRESTON] to close debate. Mr. PRESTON. Mr. Chairman, I should like to direct my opening re- marks to the gentleman from Iowa who propounded a question to me a few moments ago. At that time the answer I gave the gentleman was that there were several hundred thousand dollars unobligated with which this appropria- tion would be merged. I want to correct that. I have had a check made on that. The figure the gentleman used is cor- rect. Five hundred thousand dollars is correct. While the money is not obli- gated, It is programed as planning money. So I want to get the record straight about the answer I gave the gentleman. Mr. GROSS. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? 'Mr. PRESTON. I yield to the gentle- man from Iowa. Mr. GROSS. That makes the bridge then, approximately $15 million for the taxpayers to pay for. Mr. PRESTON. The gentleman is correct. Mr. GROSS. If the gentleman will yield for one more observation, I am not opposing this bill on the basis of a tech- nicality, as the gentleman from Virginia said. I am opposed to the bridge, period. Mr. PRESTON. May I say this as to the attitude of the subcommittee: The House has worked its will on this item ice - - the e i ld t RD I .- ..- - ? g . y e o MVlr. LAN14rh-V tleman from California. that was sufficient evidence of the senti- Mr. MOSS. If my information is cor- ment of the House and approved the item rect, I believe the officials of the Dis- in the bill. trict of Columbia protested underwrit- The CHAIRMAN. The question is on ing any of the maintenance costs of the amendment offered by the gentleman the bridge because they contended that from Iowa. it would not materially aid in the traffic The question was taken; and on a di- problem of the District of Columbia. vision (demanded by Mr. GROSS) there Mr. LANKFORD. I am not familiar were-ayes 36, noes 65. So the amendment was rejected. I might say to the gentleman ith that , , w across the Hudson or between West Vir- but i do know that the States of Mary- The Clerk read as follows: ginia and Ohio across the Ohio and so land and Virginia will take care of the DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE on and on. I can see building a bridge maintenance costs. Military construction, Air Force from the District of Columbia into Vir- Mr. BROYHILL. Mr. Chairman, will For acquisition, construction, installation, ginia, and I voted for that, and I will the gentleman yield? and equipment of temporary or permanent continue to vote for it, but, members of Mr. LANKFORD. I yield to the gen- public works, military installations, and fa- the committee, you are setting a dan- from Virginia. cilities for the Air Force as authorized by gerous precedent when you put the Fed- tleman the act of September 11, 1950 (Public Law eral Government in the business of build- Mr. BROYHILL. I will like to say 783) by section 505 of the act of September ing bridges between States. in answer to the gentleman from Cali- 28, 1951 (Public Law 155), the act of July Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 11380 Approved For - op~4iC~`.~RD63TQJOUSE 00100200006-2 July 12 14, 1952 (Public Law 534). the act of August 7, 1953 (Public Law 209). the act of April 1. 1954 (Public Law 325). the act of July 27, 1954 (Public Law 534), the act of September 1, 1954 (Public Law 765), the act of July 15, 1955 (Public Law 161), and of the Act of -, 1956 (Public Law -), without re- gard to sections 1136 and 3734. Revised Statutes, as amended, including hire of pas- senger motor vehicles, to remain available until expended, $1,228,000,000. Mr. SCHENCK. Mr. Chairman, I of- fer an amendment. The Clerk read as follows, Amendment offered by Mr. Scxsrarx' On page 7, line 16, after the sum "$1.228.000.- 000" strike out the period and insert a semi- colon and add "Provided, however. That no part of the appropriation contained here- in may be used to construct a new building at Andrews Air Force Base for use as the headquarters building of the Air Research and Development Command." (Mr. SCHENCK asked and was given permission to revise and extend his re- marks, and to proceed for 5 additional minutes.) Mr. SCHENCK. Mr. Chairman, my amendment is. I believe, of great im- portance from many points of view. It is practically impossible to over em- phasize the importance of Research and Development, because this work deter- mines the kind and effectiveness of our United States Air Force now and in the future. The Air Research and Development Command has a twofold responsibility. It must carry on all the scientific re- search, development, and testing. It must also manage these projects so that they are properly put into production and use at the earliest practicable date. Hence, the saving of time in getting weapon systems into actual production and use is of very vital concern to every man, woman, and child in this Nation. If we are to believe all we hear about the great strides in developing and produc- ing great new aircraft by our potential enemies then the work, responsibilities, and expeditious handling of these vital matters by the Air Research and De- velopment Command become of prime importance to the safety and welfare of this Nation. The actual scientific research, develop- ment, and testing of our air weapons is done by 10 Air Research and Develop- ment Command posts located a various sections of our country, each under a commanding general, who has been selected, with special care, and they are doing a superb job for all of us. The administrative and management func- tions, correlating all this work and coop- erating closely with the Air Materiel Command to place the plans into produc- tion and use is the responsibiity of the Air Research and Development Com- mand Headquarters which is now located in Baltimore in inadequate rented quar- ters. Lieutenant General Power, Com- mander of ARDC, former Assistant Sec- retary of the Air Force for Research and Development, the Hon. Trevor Gardner, and others testified last year unequivo- cally and at considerable length in ex- tensive hearings before a special sub- committee of the Committee on Govern- ment Operations and the Committee on Armed Services as to the most efficient and best location for this command headquarters. They pointed out that there is only one best location and that after the most thorough and careful con- sideration of a board of officers including the 10 commanding generals of the vari- ous posts, that their unanimous decision was to locate the ARDC Headquarters on Wright Patterson Air Force Base near Dayton, Ohio. All of these recommen- dations were further urged and approved by the R. A. Lasley Corp. of New York. This well known firm of industrial en- gineers made an extensive study of this problem over a long period of time. If anything need be said as to the qualiil- cations of Lieutenant General Power, permit me to point out that he was personally selected by General Twining as one of the very small group of officers who recently vi,ited Russia. The House Committee on Armed Serv- ices. following a careful study of all this testimony, unanimously recommended that a new building be constructed for the ARDC headquarters on WPAFB. and the House approved their recommenda- tions by the overwhelming rollcall vote of 316 to 2. Permit me to say at this point, Mr. Chairman, that while I am very proud and happy with that action, I am most firmly convincec. that this headquarters must be located at that one Air Force base which is in the best interest of the Air Force, the national defense, and the public interest, and that any special eco- nomic advantage which might be of benefit to a local community should re- ceive no consideration of any kind. The other bDdy, for reasons best known to its Members, struck out the words, "Wright Patterson Air Force Base" and inserted "at a location to be determined." Secretary of the Air Force, Donald Quarles, announced on May 17 of this year, that he had decided to move this headquarters to Andrews Air Force Base just outside the city of Washington. I was deeply shocked by this completely unwarranted action and told him so over the telephone. I told Secretary Quarles I felt he was completely wrong- that he had corr..pletely disregarded the testimony of his own officers who were best able to testify expertly on this mat- ter-that he had also completely disre- garded the action taken by the House Committee on Armed Services and by the Members of this House. Secretary Quarles gave me reasons which cannot be sustained by good judgment and said that his action was based on the approval of his air staff. t asked him if Lieuten- ant General P'swer, the man most directly respons0le and concerned and the one who knows most about this problem, was a member of his air staff and joined in this approval, and he said "No." Mr. Chairman. that this great Sub- committee on Appropriations recognizes the wrongness of this decision is amply shown in their report. I quote from page 34 of their report. "The committee still has some doubt that the immediate vicinity of the Nation's Capital is the best location for command headquarters of this type. The committee would have preferred that another location had been selected. However, since the decision was obviously made after considerable study had been given to the problem, the project has been approved some- what reluctantly." Since the Committee on Appropriations feels this way, Mr. Chairman, they should accept my amendment. Permit me to say further, Mr. Chair- man, that I am reliably informed that the senior commanders of organizations charged with a major portion of the Air Force mission, such as TAC, SAC, ADC, ARDC, or AMC, have frequently expressed opposition to being located near Washington. They feel the farther away they are the better they are for the very simple reason that being located near here creates confusion rather than coordination. The personnel of the air staff are inclined to enter with the oper- ating functions of the separate com- mands and the management of these separate commands are inclined to take over part of the responsibilities of the air staff. I am also told, Mr. Chairman, that moving ARDC headquarters to Andrews will set off an unusual chain of events that will cost many more millions. I am told that a majority of the present training command will be transferred from Scott to Randolph; that head- quarters of the training command will be transferred to Scott Field; that MATS headquarters will be moved from An- drews to Scott Field; and that ARDC headquarters will be moved into the present MATS headquarters until an- other new building can be constructed. The net effect of this series of pro- posals is the increase in the number of organizations into the Washington area. Many of us believe, Mr. Chairman, that this is undesirable from the standpoint of vulnerability, concentration of more people and functions in this area, and the added millions of cost. Therefore, Mr. Chairman, for all these and many other reasons which will occur to you, I urge the adoption of my amend- ment. I also urge that Secretary Quarles be required to personally appear before the Committee on Armed Services- justify any recommendations he may want to make to the satisfaction of the committee and obtain their approval before any appropriation is made for the moving of ARDC headquarters or for the construction of a new building at any location for their use. Mr. Chairman, the point has been made that perhaps the matter of tim- ing is important. General Power testi- fied to that at some length on this phase of this matter and said that the matter of timing in the creation and develop- ment of a new headquarters building was of great importance. However, because of the situation which has developed, this has been unavoidably delayed. It will not help this situation now to move our research and development command headquarters to Andrews Air Force Base. If, however, the Secretary of the Air Force is required to appear before the Committee on Armed Services, and if he is able to prove to them that the location he selects is the proper location, and if he can gain the approval of the Com- Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approved Fo .Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63TO02W000100200006-2 1956 3 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD -HOUSE 11381 mittee on Armed Services, I will support such decision whether or not that loca- tion is in the district I have the honor to represent. The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. SCHENCK] has expired. Mr. MAHON. Mr. Chairman, I rise to seek an agreement limiting the time. I ask unanimous consent that all de- bate on this amendment and all amend- ments thereto close in 12 minutes, and that I be permitted to have the con- cluding 4 minutes to speak. The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from Texas? Mr. BOW. Reserving the right to ob- ject, how much time will that allow? Mr. MAHON. Mr. Chairman, I mod- ify the request to make it 15 minutes. Mr. BOW. That is only 3 minutes to discuss a very important amendment. I object. Mr. MAHON. Will the gentleman agree to 18 minutes? Mr. BOW. Make it 20, and I will agree to it. Mr. MAHON. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent that all debate on this amendment and all amendments thereto close in 20 minutes, the last 5 to be assigned to me. The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from Texas? There was no objection. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog- nizes the gentleman from Maryland [Mr. DEVEREUX]. (Mr. DEVEREUX asked and was given permission to revise and extend his re- marks.) Mr. DEVEREUX. Mr. Chairman, this, of course, has been a very contro-. versial subject. The gentleman from' Ohio, I think, would like to have the Air Research and Development Com- mand located at Dayton. We of Mary- land fought for having it remain in its present location in the city of Balti- more. Last year, however, when the matter was under consideration this body agreed to having the Air Research and Development Command moved out to Ohio. The other body disagreed. We then agreed in this body to the action taken by the other body that there would be further study made of the entire subject. Further study has been made, made by people who came in with a fresh look, and the recommendation has been made that the Air Research and Development Command would not remain in Balti- more where I had desired it to remain but would be removed to Andrews Air Force Base. So far as costs are concerned I must agree that the cost of establishing the Air Research and Development Com- mand at Andrews would be much less than it would be to create an entirely new establishment in the city of Balti- more or close thereto. One thing we must remember very thoroughly so far as the moving of this huge command is concerned is that if we move it just a short distance away, from Baltimore to Andrews, we will have those civilian employees following their employment. If we move it any great distance away there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that we will lose many of those very highly skilled personnel who operate the Air Research and De- velopment Command. Mr. SCHENCK. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman indicate the number of employees involved? Mr. DEVEREUX. I do not have the number of employees at my fingertips. Mr. SCHENCK. I think it is about 1,800. Mr. DEVEREUX. 1,800 key people, I am certain. The gentleman from Ohio has sug- gested that if the present Secretary of the Air Force can come back to the Armed Services Committee and justify his location that then it would be agree- able to him; I will go along with him on that; I will support that position. But that position is in direct opposition to the one the gentleman from Ohio is now taking which simply precludes lo- cation of the Air Research and Develop- ment Command at Andrews Air Force Base. If the gentleman will withdraw his amendment and offer an . amendment carrying out his latest proposition I will then go along with it. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Ohio [Mr. HAYS] is recognized. Mr. HAYS of Ohio. Mr. Chairman, I had intended to ask permission to speak out of order on another matter, but it occurred to me in the course of debate on this amendment that perhaps I ought to point out the inconsistency of the gen- tleman who just preceded me, who was down here a few moments ago asking the taxpayers to spend a considerable sum of money to relieve congestion in the Washington metropolitan area while he is now down here trying to get you to move a facility in here which will in- crease the congestion. Then, of course, if they get enough of those in here in this prime target area they will be asking for more money to build bridges to relieve the congestion here and you will have a vicious circle. I would support the position of my colleague from Ohio [Mr. SCHENCK]. It means nothing to me personally, it means nothing to my district because my dis- trict is almost as far away from Dayton, Ohio, as it is from Washington, D. C. There is not too much difference in the distance. So I have no personal interest in the matter. Mr. Chairman, if there is any logical place in the United States for the loca- tion of this particular operation it cer- tainly is at Wright Field, in Dayton, Ohio, because that is where all of the best brains on matters pertaining to air research, are located. They have a tre- mendous investment there. It runs into the millions of dollars, I daresay into the billions. I believe this facility could be fitted in out there without too much trouble and it would be that much far- ther from the east coast which is a prime target area. You read the newspapers about dispersing industry and other things. As a matter of fact in this bill there is some money to take one of these facilities away from Washington. Now, to show how inconsistent we can get, they put money in the bill to bring an- other one back into Washington. It just does not make much sense to me. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog- nizes the gentleman from Maryland [Mr, MILLER]. Mr. MILLER of Maryland. Mr. Chair- man, this particular item illustrates the unfortunate situation that comes up in connection with some of these supple- mental bills where we are considering nearly a ' billion and a half dollars in one chapter involving hundreds of proj- ects all over the world which have re- quired long hours of study by the com- mitteees concerned. It is unfortunate that time is limited on so many of these matters that are of really outstanding importance. Mr. Chairman, I only wish to say briefly with respect to this particular item that there is no question in anyone's mind but what air research and devel- opment is one of the Most urgent pro- grams before us. Only recently in other legislation hundreds of millions of dol- lars were allocated and there was much discussion of the urgency of keeping abreast and ahead in the field of research and development, particularly as it af- fects airpower. Any further delay after this matter has finally been determined by the Sec- retary of the Air Force, it would seem to me, is kicking the ball around. Local. interests should not be considered, in my opinion, in a matter of such national im- portance. While I come from Mary- land, it would have no impact whatever on my district. I am speaking merely as a member of the subcommittee that has formulated this particular chapter. There is no more dedicated, no more able and qualified member of our Cabi- net than Secretary Quarles. I am sure he is not influenced by sectional inter- ests. He is only concerned in getting ahead with the job and doing it accord- ing the the best judgment of himself and his advisers. It would be a very great mistake to amend this section of the bill at this time. We have enough criticism as it is from Members of this body of attempts to legislate in appropriation bills. We have a situation where a decision has been made. Let us go on with the work. It is important to our national defense. The gentleman from Ohio spoke about so many brains in Ohio. To add to them might make it a more vulnerable tar- get. Perhaps it might put too many brains in one basket and that may be a good reason for keeping some of those brains nearby. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog- nizes the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. BOW]. (Mr. BOW asked and was given per- mission to revise and extend his re- marks.) Mr. BOW. Mr. Chairman, as has been stated, the House at one time did work its will and say that this facility should be located at Dayton, Ohio, which is the headquarters of the Materiel Command. All ,of the purchases of materiel for the Air Force are worked out at Dayton, at, Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE July 12 Wright-Patterson Field. This facility of air development works out the devel- opment of materiel. It would seem logi- cal and proper that it should be located at the headquarters of the Materiel Command at Wright-Patterson, which is some miles away from my area and from my district in Ohio. However, may I also point out that by this act the $6 million going into the Andrews Air Force Field here in Washington is a further foreclosure against the possibil- ity of the use of Andrews Air Force Base for another airport or for civilian use in the city of Washington. We have discussed the Burke airport and other airports. It would seem to me much wiser that we should move on to the Andrews Field, perhaps, the aircraft that are now flying out of Bolling Field, those that are now flying out of the air- ports here in Washington. You have a lot of military aircraft using these fields right adjacent to. the National Airport and creating thereby a dangerous and crowded situation. Now, if we move the military onto Andrews Field, and these facilities where they would be close to the Air Materiel Command, it would seem to me it would make more sense. As I say, if we build this $6 million build- ing at Andrews Field, we will be further foreclosing the possibility of the use of the field for which it was built. There- fore, I suggest that it is very important that this amendment be adopted and further consideration be given as to whether or not we will later on build this type of installation at Andrews Field. Mr. SCHENCK. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. BOW. I yield to the gentleman from Ohio. Mr. SCHENCK. I would like to quote from General Powers' testimony last year before the Committee on Armed Services. He said, in specific reference to Andrews Air Force Base: Although Andrews is close to the major sources of policy and programming guid- ance, it does not permit, as Wright-Patterson does, the close supervision of the weapons systems and engineering standard functions that desire close cooperation with the Air Materiel Command nor a reduction in the communication and travel requirements. Mr. BOW. I thank the gentleman. I submit to you that air research should be with the Materiel Command at Wright-Patterson Field in Ohio, and to accomplish that, that this amendment should be adopted. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog- nizes the gentleman from Maryland [Mr. LANKFORD]. Mr. LANKFORD. Mr. Chairman, at the outset I want to announce that An- drews Air Force Base is in my district. I also want to make it perfectly clear that while I suggested Andrews to the Secretary, I was led to believe that it would not be considered. No one could have been more surprised than I when Secretary Quarles announced that ARDC was to be moved to Andrews Field. Now, ARDC is a peculiar sort of air command. It may be true, as the gen- tleman from Ohio [Mr. HAYS) said, that the best military brains are at Wright- Patterson Field, but ARDC deals In a great measure with civilian scientists, and it has been brought out time and again that the civilian scientists prefer to be in this area so that they can work with the universities in this area and with the laboratories in this area. Now, ARDC is dependent a great deal on these civilian scientists. and I believe they would have difficulty in transport- ing them from here to Ohio. There were at least four studies taken as to where ARDC should be located, and each time they came up with a slightly different answer. It Is true that Wright- Patterson was recommended, but for some reason or other the recommenda- tion was never actively pursued. How- ever, when Secretary Quarles announced his final decision that ARDC was to be based at Andrews Air Force Base, I heard no criticism of it at all until the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. ScHPNcKl of- fered his amendment today. Certainly, the Secretary has had the benefit of these studies. He has had the benefit of ex- pert advice of his staff and he made up his mind, taking all things into consid- eration, that Andrews Air Force Base was the place to locate ARDC. I feel that now is the time to settle the issue once and for all. Let us put it at An- drews and get it over with. Mr. SCHENCK. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. LANKFORD. I yield to the gen- tleman from Ohio. Mr. SCHENCK. May I say to the gentleman from Maryland that the Sec- retary of the Air Force. Donald Quarles, knew exactly how I felt about it when he told me he was j oing to move this Air Research and Development Com- mand headquarters to Andrews Air Force Base. I told him that his deci- sion was completely wrong, because It completely disregarded the testimony of his own expert witnesses who know the most about this matter and it disre- garded the action tt.ken by the Com- mittee on Armed Serrices of this House and the Members of the House. I feel, Mr. Chairman, that for these reasons the decision of Secretary Quarles is completely and entirely wrong and that the Secretary should be re- quired to obtain the approval of the Committee on Armed Services before the final action is taken. Mri LANKFORD. Mr. Chairman, may I remind the gentleman that what I said was that I heard no criticism of it. It may be perfectly true that the gentleman voiced his objection to the Secretary of the Air Force; but I heard no criticism of his firal decision. The CHAIRMAN. The Chair recog- nizes the gentleman from Texas [Mr. MAHON] for 5 minutes, on behalf of the committee, to close debate. Mr. MAHON. Mr. Chairman, If the Members have the hearings before them. they can turn to pages 331 and 332 and read the letter which Secretary Quarles wrote on May 17 to the gentleman from Missouri [Mr. CANNON], the chairman of the Committee cn Appropriations, stating the reasons why he felt that this research and development headquarters should be at Andreas Field. Andrews Field was rejected at one time because it was so close to the Washington area and an attempt was being made not to bring additional important facilities into the Washington area. But the Secretary of Defense considered this matter of such vital importance that an exception was made and Andrews Field was recom- mended. A quick look at the picture reveals that in the 82d Congress we authorized the Headquarters for the Baltimore area. We thought at that time that it would be at Friendship. But negotiations broke down and the personnel went into a series of rented buildings where they have not been able to do a sufficiently effective job. Research and Develop- ment Is the most important activity, in many ways, of the Air Force. It is a very sensitive activity and yet officials of the Air Force do not have the physical setup in Baltimore to enable them to do the job that ought to be done. At one time the Armed Services Com- mittee recommended Wright-Patterson In Dayton, Ohio. The bill went to the Senate and apparently the Committee on Armed Services decided to take a neu- tral attitude. There were two sides to this picture. So it was suggetsed that funds be made available but that no site be specifically named, that it be left to the Department of the Air Force to select a site. That is what has happened. I do not think any Member of Con- gress from Ohio or from Maryland has had the slightest effect on the decision reached by the Department of the Air Force. I do not believe that Secretary Quarles, the very able Secretary of the Air Force, has been motivated by any political considerations in making this determination. I think he made a good determination when he selected the loca- tion at Andrews. These people do not have vast labora- tories and machines. This is-a head- quarters. In this headquarters they co- ordinate the research and development activities all over the country, down at Patrick Field In Florida, the guided mis- sile testing area, the facility up in Rome, N. Y., and the work at Wright-Patter- son Field In Ohio, at Holloman Air Force Bare In New Mexico, and at Edwards Air Force Base at Muroc, Calif. In the bill we provide for the headquarters at Andrews Field $6 million. That is the amount they requested. I might agree if Wright-Patterson Field had been neglected and did not have adequate facilities and it was just a matter of going one place or the other, with no special difference, you might say, "Well, let's give Dayton some sort of facility," but that is not the case at all. The Government has at Wright-Patter- son Field in facilities an investment of nearly a quarter of a billion dollars. In addition we have In this bill $21 million for Wright-Patterson Field. It has noth- ing to do with this research center. We already have that in the bill. We have a payroll at Wright-Patterson Field of in excess of $130 million a year. It is a prime atom bomb target. Certainly it almost ranks with the Capital as an atom bomb target. But there Is no dis- position on the part of anyone to sell Wright-Patterson Field short. At An- drews Air Force Base we have a $63-mil- lion investment, and we have all the nec- essary support activities at both places. Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approved For,.6telease 2004/08 63?T 000100200006-2 1956 CONGRESSIO - 11383 The proposed amendment would pre- vent building this headquarters facility at Andrews, and delay further the ac- complishment 'of something that every- one has agreed is necessary. I urge re- jection of the amendment. The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Ohio [Mr. SCHENCK]. The question was taken; and on a di- vision (demanded by Mr. Sc1rENCK) there were-ayes 38, noes 45. Mr. GROSS. Mr. Chairman, I demand tellers. Tellers were refused. So the amendment was rejected. The Clerk read as follows: SEc.309. No funds appropriated for mili- tary construction shall be made available to the respective military departments in a manner so as to restrict the application of funds to any specific project or installation. Mr. BROOKS of Louisiana. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment, The Clerk read as follows: Amendment offered by Mr. BROOKS of Loui- siana: On page 10, line 7, after the,word "in- stallation", insert "Provided, That no reserve military appropriations-herein shall be used for purposes other than for reserve purposes." Mr. BROOKS of Louisiana. Mr. Chairman, the purpose of my amend- ment is simply to require the funds which the committee has generously pro- vided for reserve purposes to be used for those purposes. I think this committee has done an excellent job. I have noth- ing but praise for the work that they have done. I have talked with them in- dividually, and they have treated the matter of the reserve activity seriously and earnestly and have done a grand job. I compliment everybody from the chairman, my good and distinguished friend the gentleman from Texas, to the other Members from California, Florida, and the other States. op this side of the aisle for the work they have done. But here is the situation, Mr. Chairman. We have had hearings on the reserve activi- ties. Last year in the Air Force, for in- stance, this committee provided $32 mil- lion in funds for the construction of re- serve installations. I see my good friend the gentleman from Maryland, who is a member of the Reserve Subcommittee of the Armed Services Committee. He re- calls the testimony. That money in- stead of being spent for reserve installa- tions was spent for other purposes due to the pressure for funds from the Air Force. As a result of that, instead of the Air Force Reserve installations receiving $32 million last year in funds, the re- serve installations of the Air Force only received $6 million in construction funds. That is putting our construction pro- gram far behind what it should be. Mr.. Chairman, next year, beginning next Au- gust, the men coming out of the armed services are required by law to engage in active Reserve training. Unless we have facilities for them to train, we are" going to have men coming out by the tens of thousands with no installations in which they can train. I am told that the Air Force is under pressure for funds, for combat funds, but we are going to wreck our Reserve program unless the money which this committee generously pro- vided for Reserve is used for that activity. I yield to my distinguished friend from the State of Texas. Mr. MAHON. I am looking at pages 31 and 32 of the report and observe there that the committee provided in this bill for the Continental Air Command Re- serve the sum of $40,219,000. The com- mittee, in approving that money, ex- pected it to be used for the Air Force Reserve program and for no other pur- pose. The committee feels that the Reserve program should not be neglected and that these funds should not be ap- plied to other purposes even though they are integrated with other funds. While I cannot speak for the committee, the gentleman's amendment would tend to accomplish precisely what the commit- tee understands will be done and should be done with these funds. As I under- stand it, you are merely saying that the funds we provided for the Reserve of the Air Force shall' be used for that purpose and for no other purpose. Mr. BROOKS of Louisiana. That is correct. Our difficulties are largely in the Air Force. We want Reserve money used for Reserve purposes. Mr. MAHON. I have no objection to that although, as I say, I cannot speak for the committee. Mr. BROOKS of Louisiana. I thank the distinguished gentleman from Texas for his valuable contribution to this dis- cussion. Mr. MAHON. The gentleman has dis- cussed this matter with me and with members of the committee. I have dis- cussed it with some of the officials of the Department of Defense. I see no reason why it should not be adopted. It merely clarifies the intent of the Congress. Mr. BROOKS of Louisiana. It will not hurt a soul, but it will clarify the sit- uation and it will guarantee that this money will be used the way it was in- tended to be used. Mr. MILLER of Maryland. Mr. Chair- man, will the gentleman yield? Mr. BROOKS of Louisiana. I yield. Mr. MILLER of Maryland. The pur- pose of the gentleman's amendment is very commendable, I think, and whether or not it is necessary as our distinguished chairman has said, I am not sure, but there is certainly no objection to the amendment on this side of the aisle. Mr. BROOKS of Louisiana. I can assure the gentleman that those who be- lieve the Reserve activities should con- tinue will feel much better if it is placed in the bill. Mr. MILLER of Maryland. I agree with the gentleman. I think it spells it out. Mr. BROOKS of Louisiana. Thank you kindly. Mr. SIKES. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. BROOKS of Louisiana. I yield to my distinguished colleague from Florida. Mr. SIKES. I think my distinguished friend from Louisiana is to be commend- ed for his zeal in this matter. He has always been keenly interested in the Reserve program and has contributed a great deal toward a sound Reserve pro- gram. What the gentleman is attempt- ing to do is to make doubly sure, in fact, to insure that the intent of the commit- tee is to be carried out. Mr. BROOKS of Louisiana. That is exactly right. I thank the gentleman. Mr. DEVEREUX. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. BROOKS of Louisiana. I yield. Mr. DEVEREUX. Mr. Chairman, I have been honored. to serve, on the sub- committee headed by the gentleman from Louisiana. I must say that we are pretty intimately and well informed on the Reserve program. I think the amendment the gentleman has offered is very, very worthwhile, and I recommend its adoption. Mr. BROOKS of Louisiana. I thank the gentleman. Mr. Chairman, I ask for the adoption of the amendment. Mr. HOSMER. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last word. Mr. Chairman, this subject applies equally to the operation and mainte- nance funds as to the capital outlay funds, under discussion. Particularly at reserve air bases where the upkeep of the equipment has a direct bearing, not only upon the safety of the Reserves, the weekend fliers, but upon the safety of the people whose homes are in the Vi- cinity of these bases. I hope the Department of the Air Force will continue its caution along on the operation and maintenance problem, as well as the commendable capital outlay problem which the gentleman's amend- ment seeks to solve. The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment. The amendment was agreed to. Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment. The Clerk read as follows: Amendment offered by Mr. TA13ER: On page 10, line 7, strike out the period, insert a semicolon "Provided further, That nothing herein shall be so construed as to prohibit withholding or withdrawing funds for spe- cific projects or installations when such projects or installations can be eliminated or deferred without adverse effect on the national interest." Mr. SHEPPARD. Mr. Chairman, I re- serve a point of order on the amendment. Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I have offered this amendment to follow the language and the word "installation" on line 7. I have offered it because, al- though it is not as good as what I had in mind myself, it would permit the armed services to stop the use of funds upon projects that had gone sour or had been dropped because they were not needed any longer. The way the language in section 309 reads they would not have the power to do that. No one else would have the power to do it, and it would be a menace to our whole military situation. I am in hopes that the gentleman on the other side of the aisle will agree to accept this amendment. It is in the na- ture of a compromise. Frankly, it can be drawn so that it will not in the slightest degree be subject to a point of order, but I thought perhaps those who misconstrue the language that they have brought in here might be willing to ac- cept this. I do not think it would be Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 11384 Approved F4eG 1 A(L8/ tSWDRDP J45R000100200006-2 July 12 safe for us to pass this kind of a provi- sion. For that reason I have offered this amendment and I hope it will be adopted. Mr. SHEPPARD. Mr. Chairman, due to the fact that as far as I know the only complaint comes from Assistant Secre- tary McNeil and not from either of the three services, I insist upon my point of order. Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I do not think this is subject to a point of order. It does not call for additional duties. It is simply a limitation upon a restriction that is set up in the language. It is clearly germane to the language. The CHAIRMAN. Does the gentle- man from Californif} desire to be heard on the point of order? Mr. SHEPPARD. I merely wish to call the Chair's attention to the fact that it imposes additional duties and that it also is legislation on an appropriation bill. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from New York has offered an amend- ment to which the gentleman from Cali- fornia has interposed the point of order that the amendment imposes additional duties and is legislation on an appro- priation bill. The Chair Is prepared to rule. In the opinion of the Chair the amend- ment proposed by the gentleman from New York does impose an additional burden upon the person administering the funds, and, therefore, constitutes legislation on an appropriation bill. The point of order is sustained. Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment. The Clerk read as follows: Amendment offered by Mr. TABER: Page 10, line 7, before the period insert ". but this proviso shall not deprive the Department of Defense or its Comptroller or the Bureau of the Budget of any authority which they now have." Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, this amendment will accomplish the same thing as the one I first offered. It will leave the proviso In such shape that the Department of Defense will not be help- less in its effort to stop the waste of money on projects that are not needed or that have gone sour because of situa- tions outside of the country or which because of some change or some new invention have become entirely obsolete. The language presently in the bill would require the Department of De- fense to go right down the line and con- tinue with a project that was not needed and was not desirable. I ask that the amendment be agreed to. Mr. SIKES. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. TABER. I yield. Mr. SIKES. My friend knows I have great respect for him, but would he not tell me if his amendment does not com- pletely nullify the section so as to leave it meaningless? Mr. TABER. No, It does not, if the statements that are made by the mem- bers of the committee are true that it does not mean anything at all and if they are trying to bring about the situa- tion I have described and which the committee report said you wanted to accomplish, this would carry out just exactly that. Also the gentleman from Texas when I had the floor previcusly indicated that he did not want to fix It so that such things as this could not be corrected. If you want to hf-.ve things in such shape that there is no control and no chance to save anything anywhere, you would object to the language I have suggested. Mr. CHAIRMAN. I yield back the balance of my time. Mr. SHEPPARD. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment. Mr. Chairman, it is very rare that I find myself holding a viewpoint opposite from that of the -gentleman from New York, but in this instance I have not been advised by Mr. McNeil to the degree that some other members of the committee appear to have been. However, I can say that no member of the three services I am referring to has expressed any objec- tion to section 309. The complaints of Assistant Secretary McNeil as to the effect of section 309 of the supplemental appropriation bill take two forms as set forth in his letter of July 7, 1956. In one instance, he says that this section would "appear to take away from the Department of Defense and the Bureau of the Budget every vestige of a possibility of controlling the manner in which the vast sums made available to the Department for military construction could b? used." Secondly, he cites in an example, "when It is deter- mined by the Bureau of the Budget and the Department of Defense that a pro- posed project is no longer required due to changes in the program, that most as- suredly the committee does not want such funds to be wasted, and moreover, the Department should have the tools to prevent such waste when circumstances indicate that definite direct controls are necessary. The apportionment proce- dures as authorized by law have-provided this tool in the past." Let us examine these two complaints. First of all, as to the taking away of every vestige of possit-llity of controlling the manner in which the vast sums made available for military construction can be used. Section 3679 of the Revised Statutes provides the apportionment and authority for the Bureau of the Budget and the Department of Defense. The particular section relating to apportion- ment is incorporated in section 1211 of the General Appropriation Act, 1951. This section provides merely that "all appropriation of funds not limited to a definite period of time and all authori- zations to create obligations by contract in advance of appropriations shall be so apportioned as to achieve the most effec- tive and economical use thereof." The section provides thf:t apportionment shall be distributed as the apportioning officers shall see fit, and shall be re- viewed at least four times each year. As evidenced by thecommittee in its report, section 309 does not obviate this review authority. The committee states "that It is firmly convinced that the recom- mendations contained in both the bill and this report will result in substantial savings without in any way diminishing the needed administrative controls." These so-called needed administrative controls are the review authority which the Secretary of Defense and the Bureau of the Budget have and which the com- mittee does not disturb in any way with section 309. Section 309 is primarily negatory legislation. It provides merely that in making apportionments to the several services, no apportionment can be made so as to limit the use of funds to a single project or installation. The committee has stated this quite clearly in the report, where it states "The com- mittee believes that a proper and sensi- ble approach to this matter would be a lump-sum apportionment for each serv- ice. Under this procedure, the individ- ual services would prepare a specific list of items of construction which would be limited to projects authorized by law, approved for funding by the Congress, and determined by that military service to be currently valid requirements. A provision effectuating the procedure above outlined is included in the accom- panying bill as section 309." In other words, Congress is merely asking that the Department of Defense make available funds to the several military services for their construction program in the same manner in which the Department of De- fense and the Bureau of the Budget and the President request appropriations and program approvals of the Congress. Section 309 does not jeopardize or change in any way the review authority contained in section 3679 of the Revised Statutes. The Secretary of Defense and the Bu- reau of the Budget have complete au- thority to deny the apportionment of funds to any project or installation as they see fit or to withdraw funds from any project for vjlich they have previ- ously apportioned funds as they might deem necessary. Section 309 merely ef- fectuates the implementation of the con- struction program of the several services in exactly the same manner as these programs are recommended to the Con- gress. The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from California has expired. (By unanimous consent Mr. SHEPPARD was allowed to proceed for 3 additional minutes.) Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. SHEPPARD. I will be very happy to yield to the gentleman. Mr. TABER. Has the gentleman read the language in section 309, which states: No funds appropriated for military con- struction shall be madeavailable to the re- spective military departments in a manner so as to restrict the application of funds to any specific project or installation. That would completely wipe out those provisions. Mr. SHEPPARD. I have said to the gentleman, for whom I have a great deal of admiration, that his interpretation has not always been along the same lines that he is expressing here today. However, that Is his privilege. I would like to add this. Insofar as one member of the Committee on Appropria- Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approved For=Re tC MNID@?d&W0100200006-2 11385 tions is concerned, I am sick and tired of having a presidential message come up and gentlemen representing the Depart- ment of Defense make presentations to the Committee on Appropriations for specific requirements in support thereof, and then within 30 days changing their minds. That sort of operation is. quite odoriferous, and I want no part of it. Mr. MILLER of Maryland. Mr. Chair- man, will the gentleman yield? Mr. SHEPPARD. I yield to the gen- tleman from Maryland. Mr. MILLER of Maryland. There seems to be doubt in the mind of the gentleman from New York, but is there any doubt in the gentleman's mind that in the course of carrying out the func- tions in regard to one of the items here the Secretary of a department could withhold funds from any project that be- comes obsolete or undesirable? Mr. SHEPPARD. Not under the act I refer to; certainly not. Mr. MILLER of Maryland. Or under the language in 309? Mr. SHEPPARD. That is correct. Mr. MILLER of Maryland. And that was the intent of the committee when it approved the language? Mr. SHEPPARD. It was, and it was unanimous on the part of the committee- for its approval. Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman .yield? Mr. SHEPPARD. I yield to the gen- tleman from New York. Mr. TABER. When you pass language subsequent to that, the other sections to which you refer, you wipe out the pro- visions of that section, provided they are different from the ones that existed be- fore, and this language would control, and you would absolutely destroy the powers that exist. Mr. SHEPPARD. I am very sorry I do not agree with the gentleman. I cer- tainly have not taken this completely unto myself. I have faith in the wisdom of those with whom I discussed this matter and on some of whom the gentle- man has relied fora good many years. Mr. MAHON. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last word. Mr. Chairman, I would like to say to the members of the committee that the effort of the Committee on Appropria- tions is to protect the integrity and the dignity of the Congress. We are in a very delicate situation, particularly with respect to the 'first amendment which was offered by the gentleman from New York, Mr. TABER. So far as I know, he is the only member of the Committee on Appropriations who shares the view which he has expressed. He makes an interpretation that is not the same as the interpretation made, insofar as I know, by other members of the com- mittee. Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. MAHON. I yield to the gentle- man from New York. Mr. TABER. Well, how can the lan- guage of section 309 mean anything except that when an item is apportioned to a certain project it stays there? It must stay there. The previous laws would all be wiped out by this pro- vision. Mr. MAHON. Well, if Congress wants to preserve its integrity with respect to the judicial and executive branches, it must treat very lightly when it comes to this business of saying to the executive branch we appropriate money, we pass laws, but you ignore them if you wish. We have provided additional funds for B-52 bombers and other Air Force"pur- poses above the President's budget in our regular military appropriation bill. Well the President may withhold those funds, he may not expend them, but that is a highly controversial point. But, I will not vote for an amendment surrender- ing the appropriations authority of the Congress and say, "we appropriate the money, but if you decide differently, why, just do not use it or ' use it for other purposes." Now, here is what we are getting at, if you will read the report. It makes it clearer than I probably will make it here. What the Defense Department has been doing has been unfair to the Congress, and we are trying to improve the situa- tion and make both the Congress and the executive more effective. Officials come up here with their budget and they say "Gentlemen of the Committee on Appro- priations, gentlemen of the Congress, we desperately need this money; we need it now; we need it forthwith." That is what they say. And, they supposedly know what they are talking about. But, we find that perhaps there has been a tongue-in-cheek operation, because after we give them this money which they say they so desperately need, they at times go back and review these same projects for months, maybe a year, before they take action, and they delay the program. The whole point is this, and what we are trying to compel them to do is this: Do not come up to Congress and ask us for any more" money unless you need it, unless you know how you are going to spend it, unless you have sifted and re- sifted, considered and reconsidered it, unless you know that you need the proj- ect. Then present it. But they have not been doing that with us. They have come up here and said, "We want this blank check." They have not said that to us exactly that way, but that is what they have said in effect. Then they go back to the departments, and delay interminably. They delay the defense program. Then maybe Congress gets the blame for the delay when officials sit on these projects and do not use the funds which they have requested and which they said needed immediate action and about which they are doing nothing. This provision I think will put them on the spot where they deserve to be. If they ask for the money and say they need it, they should use it unless the circumstances are very exceptional. They do not have to ask for it, if they do not want it. But they come in and tell us they want it. Then if we give it to them, let them move expeditiously and do what should be done. Of course, if the executive in his wisdom does not spend" the money, that is up to him. But I do not want to put my approval or the approval of Congress on a process of agreeing that we surrender the appro- priation power to the Executive. Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. MAHON. I yield to the gentle- man from New York. Mr. TABER. I have no objection to having accomplished what the commit- tee in the report. says it wants to accom- plish. But I am satisfied that this pro- vision goes way beyond that and abso- lutely destroys the control which we have for our protection. Mr. MAHON. The gentleman is satis- fled with his own view, but I do not think his view is shared by others on either side of the aisle. Mr. TABER. I am inclined to think it would be by anyone who would study the language, read it carefully, The language is just as plain as it can be. It represents an absolute restriction. The money cannot be withdrawn; it must be spent. Mr. MAHON. This does not repeal authority given in other acts. Mr. TABER. Oh, yes, it does. Mr. MAHON. It says that when they get the money for a project it shall be turned over to the service for expendi- ture on a lump sum basis. It does not say it in those words, but that is the intent. Mr. TABER. It cannot be that way under any circumstances. That is not the interpretation you can put on the language. If we are not going to pay attention to what the language means, then I cannot do anything about it. Mr. MAHON. If the members of the executive branch of the Government do not want to spend money on a project, they will not do it. That has been dem- onstrated before in both Democratic and Republican administrations. Mr. SCRIVNER. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last word. Mr. Chairman, apparently more con- fusion exists about this section than I had thought would exist. I, thought I understood what we were trying to do when the. language for section 309 was written. As much as I dislike to make this sug- gestion, in view of the high regard I have for the gentleman from New York, .[Mr. TABER], I would suggest that his amendment be rejected and that the present language in 309 remain as it is, with an admonition to the conferees that between now and the time we con- fer with the representatives of the other body, we rewrite section 309 so it will mean exactly what we intended it to mean. Let. us assume that the Department of Defense comes to us for military con- struction funds relating to Air Force Base X. On their justification sheets which they started to prepare perhaps 18 months before they finally get to us, they set out a list of items, and the esti- mated cost, providing, perhaps for a chapel, some barracks, maintenance shops, for a fueling system-any num- ber of things which we refer to as line items. It is quite true that later on, after a period of 12 or 15 or 18 months, the need is changed; perhaps the mis- sion of the base has been changed, so that the line items first asked for are no longer needed or some item is needed more urgently. So Air Force, for ex- Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 11386 Approved ff F ~ ff 15+C b-RDIM 9245R000100200006-2 July 12 ample will very properly say, "The line items we requested during the hearings are no longer needed and instead of those line items we did ask you for, we would like to provide some other items." The big objection we found was that there was waste of time and money in- volved in some of the procedure. Before coming to us the Army, Navy, and Air Force Departments have justified to the Department of Defense that they have need of certain line items, the Defense Department has justified before the Bureau certain line items, and the Bu- reau of the Budget has approved them, then these items come up to us for ap- propriations. These items have been previously cleared through the Commit- tees on Armed Services. After they clear our committee, they are screened again in the Senate. Then we find that be- fore the Bureau of the Budget and the Defense Department will release the construction funds for the Army, Navy, and Air Force they must again justify each one of these line items which have already been previously justified many times. We feel that that is too time- consuming and too much money is wasted in that. We felt that if the original screening had been properly done before presentation to Congress, these items should not need so much further screening. We felt that some of those steps should be eliminated and that once these items had been approved by the Department of Defense, and the committees of Congress, the money should be allocated to the Army. Navy, and Air Force in quarterly lump sums and then they should proceed from there with their construction without the above-mentioned repeated postcon- gressional reviews. I have explained this subject, at least as I see it, and as indicated by the lan- guage in the report on page 12: there- fore, I would suggest, much as I regret to do so, that the amendment offered by the gentleman from New York be de- feated, and that the language be rewrit- ten and returned to us in conference. Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last word. Mr. MAHON. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield for a limitation of time on this amendment? Mr. TABER. I yield to the gentle- man from-Texas. Mr. MAHON. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent that all debate on this amendment and all amendments thereto close in 6 minutes. The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from Texas? There was no objection. Mr. TABER. Mr. Chairman, I went before the Rules Committee. This pro- vision in S. 309 unquestionably was sub- ject to a point of order. Upon the agreement of the gentleman from Texas before the committee it was understood that he and I were to get together and we would try to work out some language that might be acceptable. We tried to do that. I contacted the clerk of the committee, I contacted the gentleman from Texas, and I have been unable to get any satisfaction whatever. For that reason I have offered this amendment as I drew it myself. I feel that the only thing we can do at this time is just to try to protect the Ticasury as far as we can from language that I regard as a very serious menace. Mr. MAIION. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. TABER. I yield to the gentleman from Texas. Mr. MAHON. The gentleman, feeling as he does. I certainly believe that it is his bounden duty to offer the amend- ment, I feel that way about it. I think the gentleman will ag_?ee that he and I worked together in an effort to come to some meeting of the minds. Various suggestions were submitted but we were not able to conic to an agreement with members of the subccmmittee and the full committee. It was just one of those things where the gentleman's interpre- tation is contrary to the interpretation of everyone else on the committee. Mr. TABER. I hope the committee will adopt this amendment I have of- fered. because I feel it will protect the country and protect tae appropriations we are making here. For that reason. I ask that the committee approve my amendment. The CHAIRMAN. nizes the gentleman MAHON 1. which does not exist under present statute. Mr. GROSS. Mr. Chairman, if the gentleman will yield, to what page does the gentleman's amendment apply? Mr. JONES of Alabama. Page 15, on line 18. Mr. GROSS. I thank the gentleman. Mr. JONES of Alabama. Mr. Chair- man, that is the purpose of the amend- ment as I have explained it. Mr. ANDREWS. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? Mr. JONES of Alabama. I am glad to yield to my colleague. Mr. ANDREWS. The gentleman from Alabama has discussed this amendment with me and with other members of our committee, and I understand with the ranking Republican members, and we have agreed to accept his amendment. Mr. JONES of Alabama. I thank the gentleman. The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Alabama, The amendment was agreed to. The Clerk read as follows: DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA AUDITORIUM COMMISSION The Chair recog- Salaries and expenses 'rom Texas [Mr. - For necessary expenses to carry out the Mr. MAHON. Mr. Chairman, I re- spectfully suggest that the recommenda- tion of the gentleman from Kansas [Mr. SCRIVNER] be followed. and that the amendment be voted down at this time. The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the gentle- man from New York [Mr. TABER]. The question was taken: and on a di- vision (demanded by Mr. TABER) there were-ayes 36, noes 56. So the amendment was rejected. The Clerk read as follows: COMMISSION ON GOVERNMENT SECURITY Salaries and expenses For expenses necessary for the Commission on Government Security, including expenses of attendance at meetings concerned with the purpose of this appiopriat.ion. $600,000. Mr. JONES of Alabama. Mr. Chair- man. I offer an amendment, which is at the Clerk's desk. The Clerk read as follows: Amendment offered by Mr. JONES of Ala- bama: On page 15, after line 18, insert: "PRESIDENT'S ADVISORY COMMISSION ON PRESI- DENTIAL OFFICE SPACE "Salaries and expenses "For expenses necessary for the President's Advisory Commission on Presidential Office Space. $50.000: Provided. That this para- graph shall be effective orly upon enactment Into law of H. R. 12025, 84th Congress, or similar legislation." Mr. JONES of AlabF.ma. Mr. Chair- man, this amendment is offered in order to cure a point of ordei which would oc- cur in the bill H. R. 1'025 now pending in the Committee on Public Works. which would provide for a President's Advisory Commission o-t the Presidential Office Space. This commission would be financed out of the President's appro- priated fund. It would. not increase the appropriation item. I; simply author- izes the President to tse from existing appropriated funds money for an activity provisions of the act of July 1, 1955 (Public Law 128). as amended by the act of April 27, 1956 (Public Law 491), to be available from October 25, 1955. and to be expended on the authority or approval of the Chairman of the District of Columbia Auditorium Commis- sion, $150,000. Mr. GROSS. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment, which I send to the desk. The Clerk read as follows: Amendment offered by Mr. GROSS: On page 19, line 9, strike out "$150,000." (Mr. GROSS asked and was granted permission to revise and extend his re- marks.) Mr. GROSS. Mr. Chairman, this amendment would strike out $150,000 for the planning of an auditorium in the District of Columbia. A few days ago the Committee on the District of Columbia brought in a bill, which I opposed, providing a foot-in-the- door for construction of an athletic stadium, also in the District of Colum- bia. I have no doubt, and I imagine most of the Members of the House will agree, that in the end the Federal Government, in other words the taxpayers of the Na- tion, will build both the stadium and auditorium. It seems to me we must draw the line somewhere. I am not going to belabor this amendment, for I have no doubt as to what will happen to the amendment, but am convinced there is enough private capital in the District of Columbia to finance the building of both a stadium and an auditorium. I am opposed to the taxpayers of the coun- try being called upon to build this audi- torium. I know of no auditorium being built with funds from the Federal Treas- ury in any other municipality in this country. Let this one be built as are others in Iowa and elsewhere through bond issues or other means of local financing. Mr. THOMPSON of New Jersey. Mr. Chairman. I rise in opposition to the amendment. I shall not take the 5 min- Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approved F;Q,i?Release CONGRESSIO2004/08/N AL 2255 RE(; CC~~8963TW 00100200006-2 1157 PD 1956 utes, but I rise in opposition to this and all appropriation acts prior thereto, re- Recently, a subcommittee of the Congres- appointed by maining unobligated on June 30, 1956, are sional Joint Atomic Energy committee re- amendment as a Member hereby rescinded and ordered to be covered ported it had found that the Soviet Union the Speaker to the Auditorium Commis- Into the Treasury immediately upon approval already had more scientists and engineers Sion. The other Members of this House of this act; funds appropriated under this available than the United States. Moreover, are the gentleman from Louisiana [Mr. head in the Department of Health, Educa- Russia was graduating more than twice as MORRISON], the gentleman from Pennsyl- tion, and Welfare Appropriation Act, 1956, many additional ones each year as the United vanid [Mr. KEARNS], the gentleman from remaining unobligated on June 30, 1957, are States, the report said. Virginia [Mr. BROYHILL), the gentleman hereby rescinded and ordered to be covered time now many have appeared by many from New York [Mr. KLEIN]. Members into the Treasury as of that date; and funds For a magazine articles considerable of the Senate appointed by the Vice appropriated in the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare Appropriation Act, nent writers deploring the situation and 1957, remaining unobligated on June 30, emphasizing the need for action. The President, and others appointed by the emi- President. The Commission has pro- 1958, are hereby rescinded and ordered to be Commissioner of Education, Dr. ceeded and has accomplished a prodi- covered into the Treasury as of that date. Brownell, presented a good case for this gious amount of work. We have had the Mr. FERNANDEZ. Mr. Chairman, I appropriation of $300,000 for the work services the- in the United Satees, on a voluntar firms offer an amendment. of the President's Committee in fiscal y basis The Clerk read as follows: 1957. except for their r actual a stsl costs only. . This Amendment offered by Mr. FERNANDEZ: Unfortunately our committee was con- is not he strict of to Colube an auditorium be for On page 21, at the end of line 6, add a new fronted with the fact that there was no a con- t the District t umfor the It is to bt the paragraph as follows: authorizing legislation. United l auditorium for or people of to ..PRESIDENT'S COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION BE- I think the administration in all this be the States. If the this our Capital is to YOND THE HIGH SCHOOL, EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF time has been derelict in failing to send and the quite prof the free world, I think, THE PRESIDENT to the Congress legislation to authorize aquite properly I feel, it should be "For necessary expenses of the President's the appropriation for this committee the cultural center of the world. Committee on Education Beyond the High which as I say was appointed since last This is not a new idea. It goes back to School, including services authorized by March. Perhaps the Congress has been the days of President Grant. It has been section 15 of the act of August 2, 1946 (5 derelict, but I for one assumed that, a long and difficult fight to convince the U. S. C. 55a), at rates not to exceed $50 when he ahis assumed that, Members of Congress of the need for per diem for individuals; expenses of attend- wChenre a that announced would his me such a ed with the recognition of the great culture which ance at IthetCommittee;nand act al t ans- committee, the. President had the neces- ims Nation has. I feel it is of by extreme poses of expenses and an allowance of not sary authority to provide the funds for it, majority on the to exceed $12 per diem in lieu of subsistence or to have them provided. Certainly the importance. y and nd It is minority Membb supported e both the p while away from their homes s Or or regular regular Bureau of the Budget, which passes on hill. BY the President, by former Presi- places of business, for persons attending these requests for appropriation before dent Truman, and so many other peo- conferences called by the Committee: they are submitted, should have realized pie that I would not impose on your $soo,ooo.? the predicament this situation puts us in. time to name them all. Mr. FOGARTY. Mr. Chairman, I re- Frankly, I do not know who is to blame. I urge the defeat of the amendment. asked serve a point of order against the amend- The fact remains there is no author- (Mr. THOMPSON of New Jersey ment. izing legislation and consequently our end was granted permission to revise e and and Mr. FERNANDEZ. Mr. Chairman, the committee could not put that item in the Mr. his Wmarks.) ur ose of my amendment is to add to bill. extend . Mr. Chairman, I ask purpose the $300,000 which the President While we were interrogating witnesses unanimous us consent that t all l debate on requested for his Committee on Educa- in the committee, the committee made thT amendment Nose in 5 minutes. tion Beyond the High School. When he inquiry as to whether or not this appro- heCHAIRMA. Is there objection2 submitted his request our subcommittee There was no objection. on June 6 that the priation could be made under the general Mr. KIRWAN. Mr. Chairman, I rise found at the hearings law setting up the Office of Education, in opposition to the amendment. This President had appointed his Committee and whether then the funds could be request is for $150,000 for planning an last March, had allocated $50,000 from used in connection with this committee auditorium in this city. In the second his emergency fund to initiate the work, of eminent citizens which the President supplemental appropriation bill, 1956, but that no legislation had even been re- has appointed. It was found, however, there was a request for $25,000 to cover quested or submitted to authorize the ap- that no matter how we put the language expenses to date which was turned down. propriation of funds for its continuance. in the bill it would still be subject to a The people on the Commission apolo- Without indicating that legislation was so gized to the Congress at that time for needed or desired, the President said in point int o of order. . This is inquiry that particularly so old nd on spending money they never had to spend. his message to Congress on the 12th of because use we loud back in r and sold stat The reason it was turned down was that last January: on the statute books prohibits the use they bypassed the House last year and Our vision would be limited If we failed at of any funds for the payment of any such went to the Senate. When they were this time to give special thought to education commission unless authorization is made informed that such proceedings started beyond the high school. Certain problems therefor. That statute reads as fol- exist now in this field, and already we can in the House, they were sorry they did foresee other needs and problems shaping up lows: it. The project authorization has been in the future. Higher education is and must No part of the public moneys, or of any amended and they have submitted a new remain the responsibility of the States, lo- appropriation made by Congress, shall be estimate based on a good plan. calities, and private groups and institutions. used for the payment of compensation or We spent about $2,500,000 to get plans But to lay before us all the problems of expenses of any commission, council, board, for the new Smithsonian Building. This education beyond high school, and to en- or other similar body, or any members there- courage active and systematic attack on of, or for expenses in connection with any auditorium is going to cost practically them, I shall appoint a distinguished group work or the results of any work or action of the same amount as the new Smithso- this of educators and citizens to develop this year, any commission, council, board, or other nian, but the people connected with this through studies and conferences, proposals similar body, unless the creation of the same auditorium are contributing their serv- in this educational .field. shall be or shall have been authorized by law, ices free and the planning will cost us Through the leadership and counsel of this nor shall there be employed by detail, here- only $150,000. group, beneficial results can be expected to after or heretofore made, or otherwise per- I ; hope the amendment will not be flow to education and to the Nation in the sonal services from any executive department years ahead. or other Government establishment in con- agreed to. nection with any such commission, council, The CHAIRMAN. The question is on In his very excellent message the Press- board, or other similar body. (Mar. 4, 1909, the amendment offered by the gentleman dent was echoing the concern of the en- ch. 299, sec. 9, 35 Stat. 1027.) from Iowa. - tire country for the dearth of college The amendment was rejected. graduates in science, engineering, and Mr. Chairman, I think I express the The Clerk read as follows: other skilled professions, and this con- feeling of the members of the subcom- Grants for hospital construction cern about the problem is continuing and mittee when I say that we regretted there Funds appropriated under this head In increasing to this date. On April 12 the was no way by which we could put in the Supplemental Appropriation Act, 1955,- New York Times said in a news item: this appropriation without its being leg- Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 11388 Approved F f7~f-R ~ 2004/08/25 RECORD IA-RDP63TOO245ROO0100200006-2 SI July 12 islation on an appropriation bill; we re- dent, President's Special International me here, and it shows an item of royalties gretted we could not honor this request Program." This request was in the of $23,000. If I am not mistaken, that item by the President. It is unfortunate and, amount by $9 million. The committee has subsequently been taken out of the as I say, there has been dereliction in not reduced this amount by $4,312,600. The cost. presenting to the proper committee and amount allowed will continue the Presi- Mr. ROONEY. I should hope so. to Congress for consideration legislation dent's Special International Program of budg Mr. et figures that were presented here orige which would authorize this item. artistic and athletic presentations abroad finally. Actually, I do not believe the cost I hope sincerely that the gentleman and participation in international trade items that we have received on this show from Rhode Island will withdraw his fairs. The amount contained in this bill any payment for royalties. point of order, and that other gentlemen $4,687,400 is the sam3 amount as appro- Mr. RooNSY. Did anyone in the Depart- in the House will not make the point of priated for fiscal year 1955 and also for merit of State agree at one time to pay order, so that we can have this appropri- fiscal year 1956, lets the amount re- in $2 of a,o n ec Government money for royals in ation included in the pending bill. quested for the United States Informs- ~n connection With these performances in Mr. FOGARTY. Mr. Chairman. I in- tion Agency. The committee was told Mr. BATSON~No, sir; we did not. sist on the point of order that this is not that from $1,240.003 to $1,700,000 of Mr. ROONEY. How did it get on this sheet? authorized by law and that the gentle- previously appropriated funds for this Mr. BATSON. In this particular case, no, sir, man's amendment is legislation on an program would be unexpended as of June but It would have in others. It is possible appropriation bill. 30, 1956. we would include that in our budget. You The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman The sum of $312,600 was requested for see. we are underwriting the losses of the from New Mexico [Mr. FERNANDFZ I has the United States Information Agency to take tlons that are going abroad. We have offered an amendment which has been ` to take principally that into account in deciding how for promoting and publiciz- much support they will get from the Govern- reported by the Clerk. The gentleman ing this program. The committee is of ment. and we take into account all of their from Rhode Island I Mr. FOGARTY I has the opinion that this Agency should be expenses. made the point of order that this appro- able to carry on th.s work within its Mr. ROONEY. In connection with that, did priation is not authorized. regular annual appropriation which is you approve paying at least a share of the The gentleman from New Mexico in in the amount of $113 million for the $23.000 for royalties? his remarks on his amendment stated fiscal year 1957, and therefore, directs Mr. BATSON. No, sir. sheet . Then how did that figure get that authorization had not been had, that no part of the funds recommended r Mr. vour ROONEY and that it was not authorized by law. herein be allocated tc the United States is r. BATSON. We assume In figuring up the Therefore the Chair sustains the point Information Agency. total cost of the project in order for us to of order. The testimony before the committee determine how much underwriting we will The Clerk read as follows: reveals that of the $229,738 available to give that we will have to take into account EXTENSION AND REMODELING. STATE DEPARTMENT the United States Information Agency all of the expenses no matter what they are DOILDING from this fund for fiscal year 1956, the of this group so we will know how much we For expenses necessary for planning, and sum of $120,615, or over 52 percent, was would put in it. the extension and remodeling, under the expended for entertainment. Large DIFFICULTY IN GETTING FACTS supervision of the General Services Adminis- amounts of the USIA funds were used Mr. ROONEY. Before the company started tration, of the State Department Building, for the purchase of tickets which were for South America, you had to have an a - p Washington, D. C., and for expenses necessary giV n away to people to attend the per- proval of the Department; did you not? . for providing temporary office space, lnclud- forniances. If the pt rformers or tom- mr. BATSON. Yes, sir. ing payment of rent In the District of Co- Itifr. .In arriving at this approval, lumbia, alterations, purchase, and installs- ponies sent abroad were of such conse- was there ere submitted to you an item of $23,000 tion of air-conditioning equipment, to remain quence that free tickets had to be given for royalties? available until expended, $44,920,000, to be away at Government expense for them Mr. BATSON. There certainly was, yes; but transferred to the General Services Adminis- to have an audience they should not We did not agree to pay it. tration. have been sent in the first place. For Mr. ROONEY. You did not agree to pay that? Mr. ROONEY. Mr. Chairman, the example, the Agency expended $3,000 of To pay exactly $23,000? Do I understand you second item in chapter IX of this bill for the taxpayers' money to purchase tickets correctly? LO present to people free of charge to Mr. BATSON. The point is that the figures the Department of State, International listen a the Los A 7 which I read to you were those on which we Fisheries Commission, appropriates the geles Symphony based our original approval of f certain amount $620,000, the full amount re- Orchestra in Tokyo. amount of money to underwrite the losses. quested by the Bureau of the Budget, to It is inconceivable that a Government Mr. ROONEY. How much did you approve? continue and expand on a joint intern a- agency would even consider a payment Mr. BATSON. We have not approved- tional basis with Canada, the sea lam- of $23.000 for royalties in connection Mr. ROONEY. Just a minute, now. How prey control and research activities con- with a touring play, in addition to all much did you approve insofar as ANTA was ducted since 1947 by the Fish and Wild- the other costs of an overseas tour. concerned? Nevertheless, such is the case, as an ex- Mr. BATSON. I do not understand. life Service of the Department of the x.rr n,.,,..-9 , --- . . now. because the company 1s on the The committee expects that all agen- an Over the past several years the pars- roes now. sitic sea lamprey has all but destroyed program cies in any will way correct t:con_lected with this Mr. project We approved $151,000 to get the trout population in Lake Huron and le loose financial the project started. Lake Michigan, wine the to Huron operations pointed out in the report of Mr. RooN!Y. What was the total cost? Will tiro is presently foff rin the General Accounting Office and the you please repeat that figure? Lakes Superior spread investigative report of this committee, Mr. BATSON. $268.000. lamprey eier . due falling l The loss the to the ad rapidly this in United and take the necessary action to prevent M2 8,0 0 there arriving at the total cfor their reoccurrence in the future. of $268.000 there was included $23,000 for States and Canada in trout and other royalties? valuable fish is presently estimated to be It might be appropriate if the atten- Mr. BATSON. That 1s correct. $5 million annually. The committee tiro of the house were called to certain Mr. RroNEY, You certainly can play with unanimously felt that ample justifica- parts of the printed hearings with regard words. tion was made for the allowance of this to how this program has been function- Mr. BATSON. However, sir, the estimates $620,000. Ing under President Eisenhower. The coming in and the amounts going to It do Included under chapter IX, at page 22 following are excerpts from the hearings not include Items for royalties. As I under- of this bill is an item of $964,000 for before the subcommittee: stand it, the royalty payment has been PAYMENT OF ROYALTIES Mi. TEAHOUSE OF THS waived, but I will find out about that. and claims of the Vatican City, to be trans- submit a statement for the record on it. ferred to the Secretary of the Treasury AUGUST MOON for payment as authorized b recent law, Mr. ROONEY. What was the figure you gave "In statement referred to follows: ) by In estimating the total costs for this included These claims are for damages to a while ago with regard t3 Teahouse of the cut, an item covering royalties was Included proper- August Moon for royaltier,? ties of the Vatican City which occurred in figures considered. The author claims 10 during World War City BATSON. This is an estimate. The percent of the box rice receipts. On the only information which I have is contained basis of anticipated Income for the tour, it The final item at line 5, page 22 Is en- on this little piece of paper which I have was estimated that total royalties would titled, "Funds Appropriated to the Presi- here, which is simply a memorandum to help amount to approximately $23,000. Royalties Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approved Fgielease 2004(08/25: CIA-RDP63T00 000100200006-2 1956 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - H E 1138 actually due from box office receipts amount to $1,805.91 for the first 6 weeks of this tour." * q M Y i FUNDS REQUESTED FOR ORCHESTRAS Mr. ROONEY. There is not much sense in talking about a budget presentation such as is outlined at page 8 of the justifications, where we find such buckshot approaches as for "orchestras" in the amount of $421,000. Are you not able to tell us the breakdown of that figure? Mr. BATSON. No, Sir. Mr. ROONEY. Wait a minute. I believe that figure was for 1955. Let us get to 1957. Let us change the amount to $548,000. You cannot give, us any breakdown of that? Mr. BATSON. No, sir, because we do not know what orchestras would be willing and able to undertake overseas tours next year. Mr. RooxEy. How did you arrive at the figure of $546,000? Why is it not $546,000? Mr. BATSON. We simply try, based upon the best information we have at hand, to esti- mate in a general way what we would like to do, and I cannot say that the cost will be exactly this figure. It probably will not be. It may be probably a little more or less or may be considerably more or less, depending upon what we are able to get. As an example of orchestras, we sent the New Orleans Symphony Orchestra on a tour of Latin America. There were several or- chestras under consideration for that tour that would have liked to have made the trip, but the New Orleans Orchestra, however, came up with a budget which showed that the citizens of New Orleans were putting $20,000 into this tour. So, this made it much more financially feasible to use them, and we selected them at a considerable savings. DRAMA AND MUSICAL COMEDY GROUPS Mr. ROONEY. With regard to the $609,000 for the drama and musical comedy groups, do you have any breakdown as to that? Mr. BATSON, No, sir. Mr. ROONEY. How many groups are in- volved? Mr. BATSON. We do not know, sir. Mr. ROONEY. You do not know anything about the size of the companies? Mr. BATSON. No, sir; we do not know what will be available and what the cost will be. Mr. ROONEY. You do not know how much the impresarios would get out of it? Mr. BATSON. We certainly do not; no, sir; we could not predict that at this time. Mr. ROONEY. You do not know how much the royalties would be? Mr. BATSON. NO, sir; it would vary. Mr. ROONEY. With regard to "musical groups" in the amount of $558,000, the same answer would apply? Mr. BATSON. Yes, sir. DANCE GROUPS Mr. ROONEY. And as to the $444,800 for "dance groups" would the same answer apply? Mr. BATSON. Yes, sir. Mr. ROONEY. That amount, intrigues me. Why is it not $444,700 instead of $444,800? Mr. BATSON, I cannot answer that, Sir. INDIVIDUAL ARTISTS Mr. ROONEY. For individual artists you have the figure of $202,200, Does the same answer apply to that request? Mr. BATSON. Yes, sir. SPORTS ACTIVITIES Mr. ROONEY. For the sports activities you have a nicely rounded figure of $200,000. Would the same answer apply? Mr. BATSON. Yes, Sir. AMERICAN INDIAN CULTURE Mr. ROONEY. I am sure you will pardon my cultural ignorance, but exactly who is "Tom Two Arrows" on Whom you would spend $1,800 in entertainment money? Mr. SEEBACH. He is an Indian who with his wife puts on demonstrations of the American Indian culture, dances, songs, legends, stories, history, religion, and all the rest of it. He has been enormously successful. He has drawn huge crowds at comparatively little cost and in an area where the missions are practically nonexistent. Also, because of the nature of his act and his personality, he has been able to go out into the smaller cities and even in some cases villages to entertain and bring an entirely different picture to these people in the rela- tionship of the American people and Indians. Mr. ROONEY. Have you seen his act? Mr. SEEBACH. No, Sir. Mr. ROONEY. Have you seen it? Mr. STREIBERT. I have read post reports on it and they are very enthusiastic about the act. As you know, there is a great interest abroad in the American Indian. Mr. ROONEY. Is this one act? Mr. STREIBERT. He is a whole show. Mr. ROONEY. Is it a sight act? Do you understand what I mean? Does anybody here know what a sight act is? Mr. SEEBACH. You mean it has to be seen? He does that, too. Mr. ROONEY. I thought that was a common term in the theatrical business. Mr. SEEBACH. It is. Mr. ROONEY. It appeared you had never heard it before. Mr. SEEBACH. I have heard it before, yes, but I didn't quite understand what you meant by it. A sight act generally speaking in the vaudeville sense can be one which is even a dumb act as far as that is concerned. Mr. ROONEY. Of course, they are per- formers who can work in any country in the world. Mr. SEEBACH. That is right. He is not, in that sense, because he sings. A lot of it is sight-dancing, and, of course, music goes along with this, too. Mr. ROONEY. Does he speak any language other than English, do you know? Mr. SEERBACH. I don't know. Mr. ROONEY. Where did you have him per- forming? Mr. SEEBACH. All over India and Pakistan. Mr. ROONEY. What is the percentage of the people who speak or understand English in India? Mr. STREIBERT. It is the principal language. Mr. ROONEY. English is the principal lan- guage in India? Mr. STREIBERT. Yes, sir. Mr. ROONEY. It would appear that Tom Two Arrows performed in New Delhi, Karachi, and Rangoon according to the allocation chart; is that correct? Mr. STREIBERT. Yes, sir Mr. SIVARD. And many other places. ENGLISH LANGUAGE IN INDIA Mr. ROONEY. I am surprised to your an- swer, Mr. Streibert, in regard to English being the principal language in India. I had occasion recently to request some sesearch from the Library of Congress. The latest population figure they have for India is 377 million. They refer me-when I say "they" I mean the Library of Congress-to an article in the New York Times of, September 24, 1955, entitled "English Tongue Declines in India." The article states: "English has always been the language of the tiny elite group in India. Only about 2 percent of the people understand it." Mr. STREIBERT. That is correct. Mr. ROONEY. I am at at loss to jibe your previous statement with the New York Times quotation. Mr. STREIBERT. Well, the 2 percent are those who can pay admission prices, and who are in positions of authority. They say the tiny elite is 2 percent, and that sounds like a tiny percentage, but when applied to 360 million people, it represents a large number of people to reach. FUNDS SPENT IN INDIA FOR ENGLISH-LANGUAG$ BROADCASTS AND ENGLISH MEDIUMS Mr. ROONEY. How much is the USIA ex- pending in taxpayers' funds in India for English-language broadcasts and English mediums? Mr. STREIBERT. There are no English-lan- guage broadcasts directed at India. Mr. RooNEY. Is it not unusual, if most of the people understand or speak English, that you would not have broadcasts directed there? Mr, STREIBERT. I did not say that most of them were. You just testified yourself that only 2 percent spoke it. Mr. ROONEY. What did you say? Mr. STREIBERT. I said they were the impor- tant people, but I did not say they were the most of the people. Mr. ROONEY. What was your original statement? Mr. STREIBERT. I said it was the leading language there. It is the language of the government. They are trying to substitute another language and they are having some riots. I believe, in Bombay as a result of im- posing another language on the public. Mr. ROONEY. Do you have the answer to that, Mr. Posner? Mr. POSNER. No, Sir. Mr. ROONEY. Will you insert that infdI'ma- tion at this point in the record? Mr. POSNER. Yes, sir. (The matter referred to may be found on p. 7$9.) COSTS OF PROPAGANDA, IN THE ENGLISH LAN- GUAGE, IN CERTAIN COUNTRIES Mr. ROONEY. At the same time, you might insert a statement with regard to the extent in dollar costs of propaganda, including broadcasts, if any, in the English language, and all the other phases of the program in English, dircted to Egypt, Iran, Pakistan; and India. We shall insert it at this point with regard to these four countries rather than at the point where I referred to India particularly. Mr. POSNER. Yes, sir. (The matter referred to follows:) "Estimated costs of media products prepared in the English language for certain coun- tries-Estimated obligations, fiscal year 1956 "Egypt: "Produced in the country-------- $10,034 "Radio broadcasts (VOA) -------- 4, 700 "Supplied from Washington or re- gional press centers---------- 68,932 "Iran : . "Produced in the country-------- 3,185 "Radio broadcasts (VOA) -------- 2,798 "Supplied from Washington or re- gional press centers ---------- 25, 394 "Pakistan: "Produced in the country------- 51,215 "Radio broadcasts (VOA) -------- 918 "Supplied from Washington or re- gional press centers---------- 01,228 "Total---------------------- 143,361 "India: "Produced in the country -------- 118,673 "Radio broadcasts (VOA) ------- 8, 659 "Supplied from Washington or re- gional press centers---------- 328,941 "Total---------------------- 456,273 "COMMITTEE NOTE.-The Library of Con- gress Legislative Reference Service reported Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 11390 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - HOUSE July 12 estimate of percentage of population under- standing the English language: Egypt. 3 per- cent of the population; Iran, less than 1 per- cent of the population; Pakistan, 2 percent of the population; and India, 2 percent of the population. ENTERTAINMENT EXPENSED, JOSE LIMON TROUPE Mr. ROONEY. How much did you expend in connection with entertainment for the Jose Limon Troupe on a visit to South America? Mr. STREIBERT. $8428. Mr. RooNEY. Go ahead. What Is that fig- ure down In the right-hand corner? Mr. STRZIBERT. $2,084.71. Mr. ROONEY. What was that for? Mr. STREIBERT. There was $2.000.43 for free tickets In 3 cities. This was the first project out of-the President's funds, occurring In No- vember 1954, when it was sent down to two cities in South America where the Interne- tional Conference was going on at the time, and I assume that that large sum for free tickets was in connection with the delegates to the International Conference, which was one of the main reasons for sending the troop down there. Mr. GROSS. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last word. Mr. Chairman, I take this time to ask a question or two concerning this appro- priation of almost $45 million for the State Department. What are you pro- posing to do, recondition the old build- ing? Mr. ROONEY. Mr. Chairman, in an- swer to the gentleman's question, I should say that it is the committtee's in- tention to extend the present building at 21st Street and Virginia Avenue so as to complete a full block. Mr. GROSS. This has nothing to do with reconditioning the old building? Mr. ROONEY, No. The State De- partment at the present time Is located in 29 different places and buildings in the District of Columbia. This would bring that Department and the Interna- tional Cooperation Administration all together under one roof and should re- sult in substantial savings to the tax- payer, not only with regard to rents which they are now required to pay, but also in maintenance and efficiency. Mr. GROSS. I wonder if the gentle- man can tell me how many of the new offices will be equipped with $27 waste baskets? Mr. ROONEY. We have not gotten to that point. I may say to the gentle- man I raised that question myself dur- ing the course of the hearings. Mr. GROSS. I know the gentleman did. Mr. ROONEY. Money for furnish- ings Is not included in the Instant ap- propriation at page 21 of this bill. Mr. GROSS. Can we hope then that the wastepaper baskets will only cost perhaps 5 or 10 dollars? Mr. ROONEY. I would hesitate to venture an opinion at this time. I would like to see what sort of wastepaper bas- ket they will claim they need, then appraise the request as of that moment, and base the allowance on the then cur- rent purchase price. Mr. GROSS. If the gentleman, as chairman of the subcommittee, would ask the State Department to bring one ever to the hearings, I would appreciate it. Mr. ROONEY. I may have one brought to the gentleman's office. He may have great neat for it over there. They might be able to make him a pres- ent of it. Mr. GROSS. I would very much ap- preciate it if the gentleman would let me know when he has one on display, because I would like to see one. Mr. SIEMINSKI. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last word. Mr. Chairman, I hope that In the plans of the new State Department building that the fxchitects consider somewhat the sense of the American people in that the building be not de- signed to look like an office building such as we have in several places; that it contain a little of the conventional and less of the monolithic type of struc- tures that have been ,ut up in the world during the thirties. The Clerk read as follows: TREASURY DIpART.MMENT BUREAU OF l,000UNT1 Salaries and expenses For an additional amount for "Salaries and expenses", $82,000. Mr. SIKES. Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment. The Clerk read as follows: Amendment offered by Mr. SIKES: On page 22, line 23, insert a new paragraph: "BUREAU OF THE MINT "Salaries and expenses "For an additional amount for salaries and expanses, $3,500: Prouiccd. That this para- graph shall be effective only upon enactment into law of lfou-e Joint Resolution 509, 84th Congress, or similar legislation." (Mr. SIKES asked and was given per- mission to revise and extend his re- marks.) Mr. SIKES. Mr. Chairman, I think a very few minutes wil: suffice to explain the purpose and the propriety of this amendment. As my colleagues well know, 95 years ago this great land of ours was split asunder by a terrible conflict. That con- flict raged for 4 years and left much of our country ravaged and destroyed. But, from the bitterness which brought on that conflict and from the ashes of Its destruction, we haiie built together a new, united, and powerful nation; a na- tion in which we all stand together and face resolutely forward; a nation which Is the pride and the hope of the world. Of the hundreds of thousands of men who fought in that great conflict, only four are alive today. Time is running out and in a little while they, too, will be gone. Then the stillness of that once mighty but tragic conflict will be com- plete. I believe that you my colleagues join me in a heartfelt desire to accord some measure of recognition to these valiant few. I recall to your attention the fact that House Joint Resolution 569, which passed the House stvcral weeks ago, would provide for a medal to be struck and presented to each surviving veteran of the War Between the States. I am advised that it has just been passed unanimously by the Senate. However, no further action can be taken toward carrying out the provisions of House Joint Resolution 569, which I introduced, unless funds are provided. I have here a letter from the Acting Secretary of the Treasury, the Honor- able David W. Kendall, which states this. The Treasury Department would have no difficulty In carrying out the provisions of this bill If the necessary appropriations were provided for that purpose. It Is estimated that the dies for a suitable medal could be manufactured for $1,500, and that the gold and manufacturing charges on each medal manufactured would be $500, based upon a weight of approximately 12 troy ounces. The Department has been advised by the Bureau of the Budget that there is no objec- tion to the submission of this report to your committee. Therefore, I have submitted my amendment to provide the funds which are required. I am assured by the Bu- reau of the Mint that action will speedily be taken to provide the medals for pres- entation if it is adopted. I realize, Mr. Chairman, that it would be in the orderly procedure to submit this matter at a later date; but, Mr. Chairman, we may not have time to wait. The youngest of these 4 veterans is 108. If we intend to honor these fine old gentlemen who survived that great strug- gle, let us do it now. Mr. GARY. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last word. Mr. Chairman, I heartily endorse the gentleman's amendment. The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from Florida (Mr. S11cEs]. The amendment was agreed to. The Clerk read as follows: Salaries and expenses, Division of Disbursement For an additional amount for "Salaries and expenses," $175,000. INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE Salaries and expenses For an additional amount for "Salaries and expenses," $750,000. Mr. O'HARA of Illinois. Mr. Chair- man, I offer an amendment. The Clerk read as follows: Amendment offered by Mr. O'HARA of Illinois: Page 23, after line 10, insert the following: "STRIKING OF GOLD MEDAL FOR GUSTAT Z. LAMBERT "For striking a gold medal for Gustaf E. Lambert in recognition of his service in the interest of humanity and science in con- nection with the yellow fever Investigations in Cuba. as authorized by the act of Febru- ary 28, 1929 (45 Stat. 1409), as amended by the act of July 2, 1955 (Public Law 044), not to exceed $350." Mr. O'HARA of Illinois. Mr. Chair- man, this is a small item in the measure of money, but it is rich in sentiment. It seems appropriate that it should be taken up at the time when we have given con- sideration and adoption to an amend- ment according recognition of our affec- tion to the surviving veterans of the War. Between the States. It was the Spanish-American War that brought together as servitors in the Army of our country again the North and the South. In the Spani.?h-American War, again fighting together under the Stars and Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 1956 Approved Felease 2004/08/25: CIA-RDP63T 000100200006- CONGRESSIONAL RECORD - 11391 Stripes, were veterans of the Armies of Is' worth $35 an ounce. There will be and wno are compe1Ib .u -,,.a= _ _ the Union and of the Confederacy. some small expense, I imagine, for work. funds are in the service within the conti- The uniform, that the Spanish War The amendment I have offered appro- nental limits of the United States of America? veterans wore after the war-and we priates not to exceed $350. The actual 2. (b) Approximately 1,602,000 military were proud of it-combines in its colors - expense I am sure, will be less. personnel. This figure excludes trainees the blue and the gray. Mr. CANFIELD. Mr. Chairman, will with less than 4 months' service, seriously In the Spanish-American War period the gentleman yield? hospitalized personnel, female military per- down in Cuba Maj. Walter Reed was Mr. O'HARA of Illinois. I yield to the sonnel, and conscientious objectors. 3. What is the approximate cost of the experimenting with the dread disease of gentleman from New Jersey. civilian employees who are supporting those yellow fever. They were volunteers, in- Mr. CANFIELD. I think the gentle- named under section 2 (a) and (b) ? oculated, who took the risk of death in man's amendment is very timely and 3. Approximately $4,530,276,000 per annum. order that yellow fever, as a plague, very meritorious. I believe it quite ap- This figure excludes costs for an average might be crushed out. The experiments propriate that it be proposed by the only of approximately 25,000 employees of the were successful, and one of the. most gentleman in this body who served in Corps of Engineers and excludes costs in dreadful of contagious diseases was con- our Armed Forces in the War with Spain. re atio(bto t ; a124 b 000 Germareans referred from e who paid quered by the science of medicine. Mr. O'HARA of Illinois. I thank the deutschemarks. In 1929 the Congress passed a law gentleman from New Jersey. He has 4. What is the approximate (a) volume in honoring Maj. Walter Reed and those been a friend indeed. long tons and (b) value in dollars of the who had been associated with him in Mr. GARY. Mr. Chairman, will the supplies, both military and nonmilitary, those experiments, providing that they gentleman yield? needed per year to maintain those named should be placed on the honor roll and Mr. O'HARA'of Illinois. I yield to the in section i (a) and (b) and in section 2 (a) should be given gold medals and should gentleman from Virginia. and (b) Approximately 4,100,000 long tons. receive a pension of $125 a month. Mr. GARY. I concur in the gentle- 4 (b) Approximately 4,10 000, But one name was omitted, the name man's O'HARA of amendment. Illinois. I thank the The foregoing, of course, is in addition of Gustaf Lambert. A soldier r nurse lon , Gustaf Lambert had volunteered. He gentleman and very greatly appreciate to our foreign aid program into which was not inoculated because of Reed's in- the fine lift he has given to the effort to we have already poured over $50 billion. sistance that Lambert's services as a make possible this long-delayed recogni- presumably future expenditures for the nurse were indispensable to the success tion of one of the real heroes of our coun- purposes indicated in the above answers of the experiments. Not a single patient try in a day now long past. may be included in the thirty-odd-billion under Lambert's care died from yellow The CHAIRMAN. The question is on dollar defense bill. fever. He took a tremendously perilous the amendment offered by the gentleman Sure, we are a rich, great, and power- risk. He performed an outstanding from Illinois. ful Nation. But is it not just possible service. He was a hero in every sense The amendment- *as agreed to. that we are overextending ourselves? of the word. ARE WE INDESTRUCTIBLE?-IS THE FUTURE of That we will, by our attempt to police Col. James Hamilton Lewis, himself a OUR NATION SECURE? and educate the whole world, lose our veteran of the Spanish-American War, Mr. HOFFMAN of Michigan. Mr. freedom and our prosperity just as effec- and then a Member of the other body Chairman, I move to strike out the last tively as we might by armed conflict? from Illinois, introduced a bill to put word. Mr. CANFIELD. Mr. Chairman, I Gustaf Lambert's name on the honor In the hope that facts which would move to strike out the last word. roll. It passed the other body,. but assist me to vote more intelligently (Mr. CANFIELD asked and was given reached the House at a time similar to might be obtained, on February 7, 1955, I permission to revise and extend his now, when adjournment was near at introduced a privileged resolution seek- remarks.) hand, and so was lost in the scramble. ing information. Mr. CANFIELD. Mr. Chairman, when For 27 years Gustaf Lambert carried The resolution went to the Armed the Treasury Department-Post Office on his fight for recognition. But time Services Committee which reported un- Department appropriations bill was be- was marching on, there was so much in favorably thereon but quoted a letter fore the House on February 7, last, I the present to demand attention, and the from Richard A. Buddeke, director of made the following statement with refer- records of the Spanish War period were legislative programs, Department of De- ence to the Federal Bureau of Narcotics: few and scattered. Lambert did a pro- fense. I desire now to say a few words about a digious amount of work in gathering the The questions asked and the answers small bureau in the Treasury Department records. In the early months of 1956 from the Department read as follows: currently operating under an annual appro- he was stricken with a serious illness. 1. (a) Approximately how many military priation of about $3 million and doing an He was 82, frail, and at the time desper- installations employing five or more individ- heroic job to prevent the flow into our coun- ately ill. I want to thank, from the uals who receive compensation or mainte- with of f illicit narcotics Stand ate to and stamp out au- Committees bottom of my heart, the members of the nance from Federal funds are now main- Committees on Armed Services of both tained by the Department of Defense outside thorities drug addiction in the United States the continental limits of the United States which unfortunately is now increasing bodies who Cooperated so magnificently of in bringing out H. R. 5590 and engi- America? monthly. 1. (a) Approximately 950 military instal- The Federal Bureau of Narcotics has ap- neering its enactment into law. H. R. lations. proximately 250 enforcement agents. A re- 5590, which on July 2, 1956 became Pub- 1. (b) (1) Approximately how many In. port recently filed by Senator DANIEL on be- lic Law 644, at long last placed the name dividuals are employed in such installations half of a Senate committee states that New of Gustav Lambert on the honor roll and (2) at approximately what cost? York City alone has more full-time narcotics where it should have been when the law 1. (b) (1) Approximately 167,000 civilian agents than-the Federal Government. This of 1929 was enacted. I wish especially employees outside the United States, plus ap- report holds that a minimum of 50 addi- proximately 218,000 civilians who are em- tional agents should be provided at the to thank the great American now pre- ployees of foreign governments engaged un- earliest possible moment. siding as Chairman of the Committee der contracts with the United States. The Two years ago I called to my office here on of the Whole, Mr. KILDAY, who was 218,000 does not include 124,000 Germans Capitol Hill, Mr. Chapman Rose, Assistant chairman of the subcommittee having paid from deutschemarks. Secretary of the Treasury, having jurisdic- H. R. 5590 under consideration, also 1. (b) (2) Approximately $601,699,000 per tion over this Bureau, fora discussion of the John Blandford of the professional staff, annum, national narcotics problem and I then sug- and Maj. Vernon McKenzie, of the Office 2. (a) Approximately how many Individ. gested that he take up with the President of the Surgeon General of the Army. uals eligible to be assigned to combat service the formation of an interdepartmental com- and Public Law 644 Lambert was to and who are compensated from Federal funds mittee to review all phases. This was done. are in the service outside of the continental While our committee has allowed in this receive the special gold medal voted in limits of the United States of America? bill all the funds requested by the Bureau 1929. I had contacted the mint and had 2. (a) Approximately 1,370,000 military of Narcotics for the new fiscal year, we did been informed that the old die for the personnel. This figures excludes female mil- not have before us during the hearings or medal had been located. But to make itary personnel. at the time of our markup, the first report the medal 7 ounces of gold were required, 2. (b) Approximately how many Individ- of this interdepartmental committee. This, and there was no appropriation, Gold uals eligible to be assigned to combat service report was publicized only yesterday. Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 11392 Approved FcIcUFeMQ025: CIA~-RDP H?USE5R000100200006-2 L July 12 The committee, consisting of members of chairman GARY, of our subcommittee on to the House with sundry amendments, the President's Cabinet, recommends stiffer appropriations for the Treasury and with the recommendation that the prison terms, more enforcement agents, and a greater coordination of Federal-State Post Office Departments, and he indi- amendments be agreed to and that the drives to combat illicit traffic in narcotics. sated his immediate readiness to hold bill as amended do pass. In releasing the report, President Eisenhower hearings on any supplemental request Mr. CANNON. Mr. Speaker, I move urged early and effective action on all fronts from the Treasury Department for such the previous question on the bill and all to stamp out this awful menace. Personnel. He emphasized that the full amendments there to to final passage. Commissioner Harry Anslinger, who heads budgeted request of the Department for The previous question was ordered. the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, and who, fiscal year, 1957, wis allowed and re- The SPEAKER. Is a separate vote all students of the problem agree. Is the peated assurances given in the past that demanded on any amendment? If not, world's greatest authority on narcotics ad- and he did so again this year, that there are too many courts prone to mete out low sen- tences. He emphasizes that where stiff sen- tences are imposed the traffic usually moves to areas where sentences are not so severe. The Commissioner feels that It is definitely the responsibility of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics to help foreign police break up international gangs sending this stuff to our shores and to do everything possible to pre- vent Its entry, also to get the interstate trafficker, leaving local enforcement to State and municipal authorities. Our committee has said reneatedly in its reports that unless there is real honest-to-goodness enforcement on the State and local level we are never going to win this Important battle. In the 32 years I have been living and working in the Nation's Capital City, I have never been shocked more than when it was developed about 2 years ago that the officer in charge of the Metropolitan Police Depart- ment's narcotics squad was charged with being part and parcel of a dope racket. It pleases me now to hear of the dedication of the present chief of police and his officers and men to meet this challenge and do a good job. It pleases me also that the courts of the District of Columbia have in recent years taken a more realistic approach and are handing out stiffer sentences. it Is my hope that on the basis of the rec- ommendations made by the President's In- terdepartmental Committee and the Daniel's committee in the Senate the Treasury De- partment will without delay make recom- mendations to the Congress for stiffer prison terms for violators of the narcotics laws and will come before our committee with a re- quest for funds for an increased number of enforcement agents. Meanwhile, Federal au- thorities should exercise the proper leader- ship in obtaining stronger Federal-State and local cooperation. Commissioner Anslinger tells us that he is receiving reports of 1,000 additional addicts each month. That is 1,000 too many, and the Congress must do its part In meeting this challenge. Mr. Chairman, since I made that statement, the Congress has passed and sent to the President a bill providing improved enforcement procedures and more severe penalties. Furthermore, tli Boggs Subcommittee of the House Ways and Means Committee has re- ceived the unanimous approval of the full committee of its recommendation that there be a buildup in the Federal Bureau of Narcotics of 75 additional would receive our subcommittee's favor- able consideration. Because of the Interdenartmental Committee's own appraisal of the situa- tion and its finding that more agents are necc:isary, I find myself at a loss to understand why the Department, with the support of the Bureau of the Budget, has not submitted a request to the House Appropriations Committee for these needed agents and as one member of the committee extremely anxious that our country step u,,3 its fight against illicit narcotics and reduce drug addic- tion, I trust that these executive agen- cies of our Government will not delay further appropriate i_ction on their part. It has disturbed rlc no end to learn from budget sources in recent days that the efforts of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics to obtain 50 additional agents for fiscal year, 1957. were rebuffed and the final request for appropriate funds permitted additional employment of only 16 men. One of the first approaches to the problem of illicit supply is the ferreting out and jailing of foreign gangs operat- ing in Europe and the Near East. Cur- rently, for this purpose, the Bureau under existing appropriations finds it- self able only to send 4 men abroad to cooperate with foreign police, 2 in the Near East and 2 in Europe, while the number could easily be many times this figure. The narcotics situation in the New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, and Texas areas now requires additional agents and I believe it is time fo the Treasury and the Bureau of the Budget to send to the Senate the proper recucst for additional funds which can be inserted in the sec- ond supplemental api:ropriation bill now before us. If such is done, I am sure that the Gary committee of which I am privileged to be the ranking minority member will do its part in conference with the Senate. The Clerk concluded the reading of the bill. Mr. CANNON. Mr. Chairman, I move that the Committee do now rise and re- port the bill back to the House with agents during the new fiscal year and 75 sundry amendments, with the recom- additional agents thereafter. The dis- mendation that the amendments be tinguished gentleman from Trnneseoe agreed to and that the bill as amended The amendments were agreed to. The SPEAKER. The question is on the engrossment and third reading of the bill The bill was ordered to be engrossed and read a third time, and was read the third time. Mr. GROSS. Mr. Speaker, I offer a motion to recommit. The SPEAKER. Is the gentleman op- posed to the bill? Mr. GROSS. I am, Mr. Speaker. The SPEAKER. The gentleman qualifies. The Clerk will report the motion to re- commit. The Clerk read as follows: Mr. Gaoss moves that the bill H. it. 12138 be recommitted to the House Comittee on Appropriations with instructions to the com- mittee that the appropriation of $14,325,000 for the Jones Point Bridge be stricken out and the bill be reported back to the House forthwith, Mr. CANNON. Mr. Speaker, I move the previous question. The previous question was ordered. The SPEAKER. The question is do the motion to recommit. The question was taken; and the Speaker announced that the noes ap- peared to have it. Mr. GROSS. Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the ground that a quorum is not present and make the point of order that a quorum is not present. The SPEAKER. Evidently a quorum is not present. The Doorkeeper will close the doors, the Sergeant-at-Arms will notify absent Members, and the Clerk will call the roll. The question was taken; and there were-yeas 24, nays 370, not voting 38, as follows: [Roll No. 100] YEAS--24 Budge Jones, Mo. Scherer Coudert Kilburn Scrivuer Dies LeCompte Short Grvas McVey Smith, Wis. Haley Mason Taber Hays, Ohio O'Konski Taylor Hoilman. Mich. Rogerg, Tex. Westland Jonas Schenck Williams, N. Y. NAYS-370 Abbitt Abernethy Adair Addonizio Chairman COOPER of the full committee, do pass. Albert has directed a letter to the distinguished The motion was agreed to. Algeandcr Alger gentleman from Missouri, Chairman Accordingly the Committee rose; and Allen, Calif. CANNON, of the Appropriations Commit- the Speaker having resumed the chair, Allen, 111. tee, urging that necessary funds be pro- Mr. KILDAY, Chairman of the Committee Andersen, A. Carl vided. A like letter was forwarded by of the Whole House on the State of the Andresen, the distinguished gentleman from New Union, reported that that Committee, August H. York [Mr. Rsiml, ranking member of having had under consideration the bill Andrews the House Committee on Ways and (H. R. 12138) making supplemental ap- Ashley Means. propriations for the :dscal year ending Ashmore I have discussed the situation with the June 30, 1957, and for other purposes, Asplnall distinguished gentleman from Virginia, had directed him to report the bill back Averhy'ncloss Ayres Bailey Baker Baldwin Barrett Bass, N. H. Bates Baumhart Eeamer Eecker Bolling Bolton, Frances P. Bolton, Oliver P. Bonner Bosch Bow Bowler Boykin Belcher Boyle Bennett, Fla. Bray Bennett, Mich. Brooks, La. Bentley Brown, Ga. Berry Brown, Ohio Betts Brownson Blatnik Broyhill Bliteh Burdick Bc--rs Burnside Boland Bush Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 Byrd Healey Patterson Young Byrne, Pa. Hebert Pelly Younger Byrnes, Wis. Henderson Perkins Canfield Herlong VMS Cannon Heseltoa Philbin Anfuso Eberharter O'Hara, Minn. Carlyle Hess Phillips Barden Engle Passman Carrigg Hiestand Filcher Bass, Tenn. Hoffman, Ill. Patman Cederberg Hill Pillion Bell Kearney Priest Celler Hillings Poage Brooks, Tex. Kelley, Pa. Scudder Chase Hinshaw Poff? Buckley Keogh Simpson, Pa. Chatham Hoeven Polk Burleson Kluczynski Thompson, La. C'helf Holifleld Powell Carnahan Lane Thornberry Chenoweth Holland Preston Cretella Lovre Velde Chiperfleld Holmes Price Davis, Tenn. McConnell Walter Christopher Holt Prouty Davis, Wis. Morgan Wharton Chudoff Holtzman Quigley Dingell Murray, Tenn. Wickersham Church Hope Rabaut Dolliver Nelson Clark Horan Radwau So the motion to recommit was re- Clevenger Hosmer Rains Cole Huddleston Ray jetted. Colmer Hull Reece, Tenn. The Clerk announced the following Cooley Hyde Reed, N. Y. Coon Ikard Rees, Kans. pairs: Cooper Jackson Reuss On this vote' Corbett James Rhodes, Ariz. Mr. Dolliver for, with Cramer Jarman Rhodes, Pa. Approved Fo, Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T0024OR000100200006-2 11393 CONGRESSIONAL' RECORD - HOUSE Crumpacker Jenkins Richards Cunningham Jennings Riehlman Curtis, Mass. Jensen Riley Curtis, Mo. Johansen Rivers Dague Johnson, Calif. Roberts Davidson Johnson, Wis. Robeson, Va, Davis, Ga. Jones, Ala. Robsion, Ky. Dawson, Ill. Jones, N. C. Rodin Dawson, Utah Judd Rogers, Colo. Delaney Dempsey Denton Derounian Devereux Diggs Dixon Dodd Dellinger Dondero Donohue Donovan Dorn, N. Y. Dorn, S. C. Dowdy Doyle Durham Edmondson Elliott Ellsworth Evins Fallon Fascell Feighan Fenton Fernandez Fine Fisher Flare Flood Flynt Fogarty Forand Ford Forrester Kearns Keating Kee Kelly, N. Y. Kilday Kilgore King, Calif. King, Pa. Kirwan Klein Knox Knutson Krueger Laird Landrum Lanham Lankford Latham Leslnski Lipscomb Long McCarthy McCormack McCulloch McDonough McDowell McGregor McIntire McMillan Macdonald Machrowicz Mack, Ill. Mack, Wash. Madden Rogers, Mass. Rooney Roosevelt Rutherford Sadlak at. George Saylor Schwengel Scott Seely-Brown Selden Sheehan Shelley Sheppard Shuford Sieminski Sikes Stier Simpson, Ill. Sisk - Smith, Kans. Smith, Miss. Smith, Va. Spence Springer Staggers Frazier Mahon Frelinghuysen Mailliard Friedel Marshall Fulton Gamble Garmatz Gary Gathings Gavin - Gentry George Gordon Grant Gray Green, Oreg. Green, Pa. Gregory Griffiths Gubser Gwinn Hagen Hale Halleck Hand Harden Matthews Meader Merrow Metcalf Miller, Calif. Miller, Md. Miller, Nebr. Miller, N. Y. Mills Minshall Mollohan Morano Morrison Moss IA ou e The Clerk read as follows: Be it enacted, etc., That (a) all monthly wartime rates of compensation payable under public laws administered by the Veterans' Administration for disability less than total (not including special awards and allow- ances, dependency allowances, or subsistence allowances), are hereby increased by 10 percent. (b) All rates of compensation, increased by subsection (a) shall be further adjusted up- ward or downward to the nearest dollar, counting 50 cents and over as a whole dollar. "(j) If and whole the disability is rated as total the monthly compensation shall be $225." (e) The maximum rates of compensation set forth in paragraph R (k), II (o), and II (p) of such part I are increased to $450 per month. (f) The rate of compensation payable under paragraph II (1) of such part I is in- creased to $309. (g) The rate of compensation payable under paragraph It (m) of such part I is increased to $359. (h) The rate of compensation payable under paragraph II (n) of such part I is increased to $401. SEC. 2. (a) The basic rate of compensation provided by section 202, of the World War Veterans' Act,01924, as amended, for any disability rated as total is hereby increased to $225 per month. (b) The rate of compensation payable under section 202 (3) of the World War Vet- erans' Act, 1924, as amended, for the loss of the use of both eyes is hereby increased to $309; the rate payable under that section for the loss of use of both eyes and one or more limbs is hereby increased to $401; the rate payable under that section for double total permanent disability is hereby increased to $401: Provided, That in no event shall the rate of compensation received hereunder plus the amounts payable under any other pro- vision of the World. War Veterans' Act, 1924, as amended, exceed $450 per month in any case. SEC. S. (a) The act entitled "An act to provide increases of compensation for cer- tain veterans with service-connected disa- bilities who have dependents", approved July 2, 1948 (Public Law 877, 80th Cong.), is amended by adding at the end thereof the following new section: "SEC. 6. All rates of additional compensa- tion established by this act are hereby in- creased by 10 percent." (b) Such act is further amended by strik- ing out "60 percent" wherever it occurs and inserting "50 percent." SEC. 4. This act shall take effect on the first day of the second calendar month which be- gins after the date of its enactment. The SPEAKER.. Is a second de- manded? - Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, I demand a second. The SPEAKER. Without objection. a second will be considered as ordered. There was no objection. Mr. TEAGUE of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Mem- bers may have 5 legislative days in which to extend their remarks in the RECORD on the bill under consideration. The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from Texas? There was no objection. Mr. TEAGUE of Texas. Mr. Speaker, the bill which we are considering today relates entirely and exclusively to com- pensation for service-connected disabled veterans. It is, in effect, the substitute which was ruled out on a point of order at the conclusion of the debate on H. R. 7886 on June 27. The bill generally increases all rates of compensation below 100 percent by 10 percent, rounded to the nearest dollar. For example, the present 10 percent dis- ability is paid at the rate of $17 per month. The bill would increase this to $19. In the case of a man totally disabled, the rate is increased from $181 to $225. r Multer Wier (c) In adjusting the rates of peacetime Mumma Wigglesworth disability compensation under part II of Murray, Ill. Williams, Miss. Veterans Regulation No. 1 (a) because of Natcher Williams, N. J. the increases provided in subsection (a) and Hardy Norrell Wilson, Ind. Harris O'Brien, Ill. Winstead Harrison, Nebr. O'Brien, N. Y. Withrow Harrison, Va. O'Hara,-Ill. Wolcott Harvey O'Neill Wolverton Hays, Ark. Osmers Wright Hayworth Ostertag Yates Nicholson Wil lis the adjustments provided in subsection (b), Norblad Wilson, Calif. th d +ed u ward a jus f b Until further notice: Mr. Walter with Mr. Kearney. Mr. Kluczynski with Mr. Lovre. Mr. Anfuso with Mr. McConnell. Mr. Morgan with Mr. Nelson. Mr. Thompson of Louisiana with Mr. O'Hara of Minnesota. Mr. Dingell with Mr. Scudder. Mr. Passman with Mr. Simpson of Penn- sylvania. Mr. Patman with Mr. Velde. Mr. Priest with Mr. Wharton. Mr. Engle with Mr. Cretella. Mr. Barden with Mr. Davis of Wisconsin. Mr. Bell With Mr. Hoffman of Illinois. Mr. BONNER, Mr. MACK of Illinois, Mr. ABERNETHY, and Mr. CANFIELD changed their votes from "yea" to "nay." The result of the vote was announced as above recorded. The doors were opened. The SPEAKER. The question is on the passage of the bill. The bill was passed. A motion to reconsider was laid on the table. Steed Sullivan INCREASING RATES OF COMPEN- Talle SATION FOR SERVICE-CONNECTED Teague, Calif. DISABILITIES Teague, Tex. Thomas Mr. TEAGUE of Texas. Mr. Speaker, Thompson, I move to suspend the rules and pass the Mich. Thompson, bill (H. R. 12038) to provide increases in N. J. service-connected disability compensa- Thompson, Tex. tion and to increase dependency allow- Thomson, wyo. Tollefsort antes, as amended. Trimble Tuck Tumulty Udall Utt Vanik Van Pelt Van Zandt Vinson Vorys Vursell Wainwright Watts Weaver Whitten p ur er e such rates all or downward to the nearest dollar, counting 50 cents and over as a whole dollar. (d) Paragraph II (j) of part I of Veterans Regulation No. 1 (a) is amended to read as follows: Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 11394 1-11 -A. Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD- HOUSE July 12 This was done because the Bradley Com- mission found that the men totally dis- abled constituted the one group which was not receiving as much compensation as they should be receiving based on the amount other veterans, suffering from service-connected disabilities, were re- ceiving. The bill also increases the rates for the more severely disabled by $30 in each different category to make the ceil- Ing on all disability compensation $450 a month rather than $420 as exists today. The so-called statutory award rate of $47, which are in addition to the rates of percentage disability, are not increased, nor is the minimum rate for arrested tuberculosis of $67. All those veterans receiving a percentage disability pay- ment today would receive an increase under this bill. Section 2 of the bill applies this same sort of increase to World War I veterans who are rated on the 1925 schedule for rating disability and involve so-called protected award cases. This is a limited group of veterans who are unable to meet the criteria set forth in the 1945 rating schodule. Section 3 Increases the rates provided In Public Law 877 of the 80th Congress, which authorized additional compensa- tion for veterans 50 percent or more dis- abled and who have dependents. For example, a veteran today rated 100 per- cent disabled receives $181 monthly. If he has a wife, she would receive $21 addi- tional. Under this bill that amount would be increased by 10 percent to make It $23.10. If the veteran is rated 50 percent disabled, for example, he would receive 50 percent of $23.10. This pro- vision does not apply to those rated less than 50 percent disabled. The first year's cost of this bill is esti- mated to be $172,750,000 and would de- crease slightly in the fifth year to $170,- 325,000. Unlike the pension estimates, compensation cost generally will de- crease as the years advance. Mr. McDONOUGH. Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. TEAGUE of Texas. I yield to the gentleman from California. vision In this bill for widows of Spanish- American War veterans? Mr. TEAGUE of Texas. There is no provision for a widow of a Spanish- American War veteran. The reason that no widows or children are considered in this bill is that last year the House passed the bill H. R. 7089, which has also passed the Senate and is now In conference, and which gives widows and children of service-connected disabled a very sub- stantial raise. For example, the widow of a Spanish-American War veteran with service-connected disability would get an Increase from $87 to $122. Mr. JUDD. Mr. Speaker, will the gen- tleman yield? Mr. TEAGUE of Texas. I yield to the gentleman from Minnesota. Mr. JUDD. Was that just for Span- ish-American War widows, or all? Mr. TEAGUE of Texas. No; the widows of service-connected disabled veterans of all wars. Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. Mr. Speaker, there will not be a vote cast against this bill, I am sure. It was a tragedy that this compensation bill was stricken from the pension bill on a point of order 2 weeks age. My understanding is that service- connected Spanish-American War wid- ows will come in for an increase, as will the widows of all seivice-connected dis- abled veterans. Unfortunately non- service-connected widows will not receive anything. Mr. TEAGUE of Texas. I think I ex- plained that all widows of service-con- nected disabled vete_ans are covered in H. R. 7039. Mrs. ROGERS of Massachusetts. I was not sure that thl gentleman asking the question underst3od that. The following is a description of the bill: INCREASING Rsres os Sts'TivicE-CoNN141Ci'n COMPENSATION rOR VETERANS H. R. 12038 Title: To provide Increases in service-con- nected disability compensation and to In- crease denendencv allowances. Mr. TEAOuE of Texas. Introduced and re- ferred dune 28, 1956. Analysis: Rates of compensation for wartime service- connected disabilities under Public Law 2, 73d Cong., as amended, and Veterans Reg- ulations Rates of compensation for wartime service- connected disabilities under Public Law 2, 73d Cong., as amended, and Veterans Reg- ulations-continued A natonlteai loss, or less o f use of a creative crean, or 1 foot, or 1 hand, or blindness of I eye, having only light perception, In addition to requirement for any of rates In (1) to (n), rate increased monthly for each loss or loss of use by______--_ 0) Anatomical loss, or loss of use of both hands, or both feet, or I band and 1 foot, or blind both eyes with 5/200 visual acttit or less, or is permanently bed- ridden or so helpless as to be In need of regular aid and at- tendance, monthly compen- sation. (m) Anatomical loss, or loss of use of 2 extremities at a ]eve), or with complications, prevent- Ing natural elbow or knee action with prosthesis in place, or suffered blindness in both eyes, rendering him so helpless as to be in need of regular aid and attendance, monthly compensation------- (n) Anatomical loss of 2 extremities so near shoulder or hip as to prevent use of Prosthetic ap- pliance, or suffered anatomt. cal loss of both eyes, monthly compensation .__________- (o uffered disability under condt- lIons which would entitle hint to 2 or more rates In (1) to (n), no condition being considered twice, or suffered total deafness in combination with total blindness with 6/.200 visual acuity or less, monthly compensation-__-__- (P) In event disabled Person's serv- tee-incurred disabilities ex- ceed requirements for any of rates presented, Administra- tor, In his discretion, may allow nest higher rate, or Intermediate rate, but in no event In excess of_____________ (q) Minimum rate for arrested tuberculosis- - - -- - - -- - - - ------ war service- connected rates, veterans Regula- tion I (a), as amended, pt. I war service- connected rates, Veterans IteAtda- FF. R. L20M tFon 1 (a), as amended, pt. I (a) 10 percent disability..-.-_._.--. $17.00 119.00 Rrl 20 percent dfsablllty_--_-_---... 33.00 59.00 Cr) 30 percent dLsahillt7.___--_-___. 60.00 65.00 (d) 40 percent it Lsa bility-____._____. 60.00 73.00 (r?) 50 percent disability -.-.-._.... 91.00 100.017 1O GO parcent disability -----.-_.-._ 109.00 120.00 (K) 70 Percent 127.00 140.00 (h) 90 percent disablllty_-.-.-----._ 145.00 160.00 ti) 00 percent disability --._..--..._ 1 r3. is) 179.00 O) Total disability- 181.00 #25.00 (t) Anatomical lore, or lossof une of n creative er:an, or I tcot, or 1 haul, or blindness of I eye, having only light scree )it, n rates (a) to (1) (ncteaseJ monthly by------------------ Additional disability compensation because of dependents I 420.00 67. 00 H. It, 12038 460.00 67.00 Wife, no child Wife. 1 child w)fe,2 chd- drrn Wffr,3 ormore chic- dren wife. wife, 1 child No wile, 2 chi dren NO w more mare ch11- dren Dependent parent or parents rvim on or alter June 27, 195).__..-...._ world war II-------------------- -- - ---- WCorld War I-_______________. __-___-_-_I Sla iiioh-Auterlcan War, I'hiiippine Insur- $17. 50(I) ' $21 00 rer(ion, Rox,?r Rcbellion____---- -- - (K) :55 $ $45.0 $56. 00 $14. 40 $24.50 $3 .00 19.25 _. - --t M. 10 war -- --^------------?---?------ 3 50 8. 8 6v. 06 61.60 15.40 t6. 94 8 38.60 35.00(2) Indian wars 58.60 i'tnerthae s'rvicc (Ird,'r combat ar extrahuzarduus conditions) ______________ 14. 0" 1) 16.50 Regular peacetime service . - 23.00 Sri. 40 44. 11.21) 19.60 26.00 16 40 .40 . -----------.'- L 18.48 30.80 4~). 04 48 18 . f8 12.32 21.56 #8.6'0 23.00(2) I #6.90 I Above rates are fur 100-percent disability. It and while rat .A partially disabled, but not less than 50 percent, additional conipensatlon Is nut.lorired In an amount having the same ratio to the amount specified In the applicable table, above, -,s the h-rree of -lisahility bears to the total disablIlLy, C. g., war service-connected disability of 50 percent, comlensatlun rate, $10). If veteran bass wife, his comprnmtionlaluereased as follows $10U}$l l.Sb=$111.55. No'rr..-Rates in Italics are ar reported In H. R. 12038. Digest of report (Vercrans' Adminfetra- tIon) : "The general purpose of the bill is to provide an increase In the -rates of com- pensation payable to veterans for service- connected disabilities and in the rates of additional allowances for dependents which are payable to veterans whose disabilities are rated 50 percent or riore. ? ? R "All of the disability compensation basic and statutory rates for which increases are proposed under the bill were last increased 5 percent by Public Law 695, 83d Congress, August 28, 1954. As you are aware, the Vet- erans' Administration submitted a report to your committee under date of May 31, 1958, on H. R. 11510, 84th Congress, which Approved For Release 2004/08/25 : CIA-RDP63T00245R000100200006-2