JOINT VISIT OF UPENN WHARTON STANFORD AND UROCHESTER ALUMNI CLUBS OF WASHINGTON D.C.

• Document Type: CREST
• Collection: General CIA Records
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): CIA-RDP05T00644R000100390003-9
• Release Decision: RIFPUB
• Original Classification: K
• Document Page Count: 4
• Document Creation Date: December 21, 2016
• Document Release Date: April 20, 2009
• Sequence Number: 3
• Publication Date: November 19, 1980
• Content Type: MISC

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Joint Visit of UPenn, Wharton,
Stanford and URochester Alumni
Clubs of Washington, D.C.
1910-2010, Wednesday, 19 November 1980
* Past formulas not always help
Change in pattern.of relationships means:
- Must be more t$Irpcin ted - ate..
- Need good information r0
- Good info harder to get - others more
Today - talk about
1) Why good intell esp important for US in 80's &
2) What we must do to ensure it will be good enough.
Decade of 80's more precarious than 60's or 70's
- Soviet leadership - not feel inferior
- Econ growth no longer a given
*.Avail energy - dev. Indust countries - 1-2%
during decade
* OP-EC drain $110B in 1980 vs. $2B in 1978 - 125%
increase in price
- Political/Econ mechanisms to adapt - changing
- But requires cha ,es in way we go about business
Mos
So is
1) Tremendous tech
methods - less trusty of US
Means for Intelligence?
- Can do
2) HUMINT Meld
Example
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nalysis - expand areas - disciplines
4) More pttbj isr institution.
reduction in ability to keep secrets - undermining
Partly side effect Vietnam, Pentagon Papers, Watergate -
Need Legislative Support
Talk about unleashing CIA relax controls - facile -
- Not what we want or need - nor will happen
inaccurate
Have needed legislative remedies.in 4 areas - received
in 2, still needed in other 2 - widely misunderstood
Important legislation for which we are rag teful to the
Congress - because supports strong intell capability
1) Covert Action
3 yrs ago any CA heinous
- Today press/public ask - can't do something between
just talking--and sending in Marines? CA has
place in dj omatic portfolio.
- Hughes-Ryan was real problem
* 8 committees/+ 200
* Can't get volunteer for risks
* May be good in 1974 - not today
- Reduced to 2
* Congressional oversight guarantees
accountability
2) Graymail - call for 'rrelevant or peripheral
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classified info in open court. Govt withdraws
rather than increase damage. Bill provides for:
Pretrial rulings on issues of relevancy
- Provide court w/alternatives short of dismissing
case
Means today we can prosecute espionage cos,
without fear will do more damage.
Legislation still badly needed:
1) Identities
.-.Callous disclosure
- Unreasonable ask live overseas - climate of
terrorism - give no protection
- Agee -.Athens - Welch
Wolf - Jamaica
- No-sense - call for better-- intel l - then don't
protect people doing it
- Press - Constitution - Pattern - Intent
2) FOIA
- Problem is perceetion
- USSR same FOIA rights as you
- Agents/liaison
- Keep winning in courts?
- No blanket exempt - protect sources and methods
only.
To sum up
- All Americans caught in dilemma:
* All strive toward ideal - omen society
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* Yet, recognize cke caught uanwar?es - need
intell service inherently secret.
--Can have bot ? Think can - Think must.
- Issue not urileashing leashing CIA
* Issue is can we a ui intel a encies w/tools
to beef es:tive and at same time adhere to
men
legal and ethical_aarms? Yes - be ievve can
sla--hem .
- One hand - oversight - works well - justifies high
degree of confidence.
- Other hand legal measures I described are
reasonable and necessary.
- Moving in right. direction.
- Need strong intel for precarious decade 80's lies
ahead.
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