MEETING WITH MINORITY COUNSEL OF SENATE SELECT COMMITTEE ON PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN ACTIVITIES, 22 JANUARY 1974

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• Publication Date: January 22, 1974

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detailed memo on his most recent
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MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
OLC 74-0110
22 January 1974
SUBJECT: Meeting with Minority Counsel of Senate Select Committee
on Presidential Campaign Activities, 22 January 1974
1. For 4-1/2 hours running until about 8:30 p.m., I was in
a session with Fred D. Thompson, Minority Counsel, and Michael
Madigan and Howard Liebengood, of the staff of the Watergate
Committee, in follow-up of the two page, 13 paragraph questionnaire
Thompson had given me on 11 January (attachment A) (Madigan and
Liebengood had previously been granted access to all CIA Watergate
material turned over to the FBI in an exchange of correspondence
between the DCI and Director Kelley) with the following results:
a. I observed that the sweeping subpoena type
language of the questionnaire involved matters which
appeared to be beyond their legitimate sphere of
interest and that while we wanted to be cooperative,
we also needed to protect privileged information, such
as personnel, medical and security files, as well as
unrelated sources and methods and other sensitive
information;
b. I told them that in response to their 13 questions,
we had collated for their review, but not retention in its
present form, a volume of relevant material previously
supplied to congressional committees and a few new
supplementary items in which they had expressed a
specific interest; I also pointed out:
(1) We were still attempting to identify the
memoranda requested under question 9 (1. e.,
summarization of Watergate related developments
as forwarded by the Director of Security to the
Executive Director through the DD/S);
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(2) We had not collected any specific information
for questions 11 and 13 (1. e., all material forwarded
to Mr. Colby in his previous and present capacity and
all material received by or from former Director
Helms pertaining to Hunt and McCord), since all such
material having a reasonable bearing on the personal-
ities and events involved are already available and
have been incorporated in the new volume collated
for them;
(3) In connection with question 10 (i. e., Special
Watergate file maintained or formerly maintained
in the Office of Security), we are reviewing files
against the possibility we might uncover an item
bearing on the questions raised which may have
escaped the intensive Agency-wide search that has
been conducted heretofore, but we would be very
surprised if anything of significance developed.
c. The volume ,ntitled, "CIA Material Furnished to
Mr. Fred D. Thompson for Vice Chairman, Howard H.
Baker" was then reviewed by Messrs. Thompson,
Liebengood and Madigan. (Madigan had previously told
me that he had gone over every page of the CIA volumes
held by George Murphy, on the staff of the Joint Committee
on Atomic Energy, and some of the CIA data relating to
the St. George allegations. It was obvious that Liebengood
also had read all or most of this material.) Based upon
the content, manner and timing of the questions asked,
they were not so much on a fishing expedition, as following
up specific leads they had obtained from other sources;
d. They seemed to be truly puzzled that we didn't know
more about explaining he was a
pivotal figure with Mullen Company who handled the
account with the Company. (When I asked Thompson
on 11 January why he thou ht we would know anything about
he was quite sure had a relationship with the
Agency. Also, on 15 January Special Counsel to the President,
Mr. Buzhardt, attached key importance to the existence of
any relationship involving the Agency, Mullen Company and
either Company or ITT. Mr. Buzhardt immediately
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dismissed as not being the problem area he was thinking
of when told of the fact that an Agency employee under
cover with Mullen Company
e. See attachment B for follow-up questions from the
session.
2. I told Thompson et al. that I couldn't recommend to my
superiors divulgement of further information unless there was some
tangible evidence that we were narrowing down to specific issues.
If anything about the Agency, either being abused or involved was
known, Mr. Colby should be advised or at least Senator Symington
or Chairman McClellan who, as I understood it, specifically turned
over his material to the Watergate Committee with the understanding
that this would be done. Liebengood said they were following specific
leads and just did not have the answers yet but that they were not on
a fishing expedition and had reasonable expectations of satisfying
themselves with the completion of the new follow-up requirements
and an opportunity to more thoroughly review the material they had
just gone through.
3. During the session, Thompson met with Chief Counsel
Dash concerning a subpoena of Bebe Rebozo's records. After leaving
Dash, Thompson commented that if he was Rebozo's lawyer, he would
fight this sweeping subpoena, which is intended to make Rebozo prove
how he earned and spent every nickel over the last several years to
demonstrate that he had not dipped into "the $100,000." Thompson
realizing that this was exactly the complaint I had registered with him,
good humoredly acknowledged so.
4. I think a fair amount of good faith has developed among the
four of us. Some of their requests are more spongy than others, and,
I believe, can be closed out on the basis of assurances rather than�
providing any further material.
5. Action:
a. Get the facts on the follow-up items;
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b. Consider formalizing with Senator Baker our
current undertakings with his staff; (This carries a
risk that the result might either in appearance or fact
take some of the flexibility out of our current arrange-
ment with the staff.)
c. Get a reading on any reaction to Senator
Symington's recent letter to Senator Baker;
d. Inform our committees;
e. Inform the White House (Mr. Buzhardt) ?
f. Inform the Special Prosecutor?
6. Cooperation:
Further cooperation by the Agency may be playing into plans
for diversionary tactics or a fishing expedition, hoping to uncover at
least an appearance of a sinister Agency involvement. There also
may be an interest in pushing us to the point where we refuse to
cooperate so that parallels can be drawn between the action and attitude
of the Agency and those of others. For the moment, those items which
they are pursuing most vigorously seem to be reasonably related to
their inquiry and based upon leads from various sources. This would
tend to recommend further cooperation on a limited basis subject to
the outcome of the actions recommended in paragraph five above.
7. Task Force:
On 23 Januar a task force composed of
assembled. The
various o ow-up items were tasked as indicated in attachm.ent B. The
target for all inputs was set for 2:00 p.m. , 24 January.
Associate Legislative Counsel
Attachments:
A. Questionnaire from 11 January Meeting
B. Follow-up Questions from 22 January Meeting
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1. All CIA correspondence and memoranda pertaining in any way to
Eugenio Martinez during the time period from June of 1970 to the
present, including but not limited to:
a. All correspondence to or from the Western Hemisphere Division
and Chief of Station, Western Hemisphere/Miami, including but
not limited to the correspondence between the aforementioned and
any correspondence with the aforementioned and headquarters.
b. All contact reports of meetings between CIA personnel and
Martinez during the aforementioned time period.
c. The original report (in Spanish) requested by the Chief of Station,
Western Hemisphere/Miami from Martinez and all memoranda
or correspondence attendant to that request.
d. All documents, cables, etc., in any way pertaining to the separa-
tion of Eugenio Martinez from the CIA, including but not limited
to any correspondence pertaining to Martinez from June 1, 1972,
to the present.
2. All material and written re orts pertaining to Watergate-related
interview's conducted by including but not limited to the
interviews of:
a.
b.
C.
d.
e.
f.
g.
h.
1.
J.
k.
3. Any and all memoranda or recordings made by or on behalf of General
Cushman concerning any and all. contacts of General Cushman with E.
Howard Hunt during the time period from June of 1971 to January 15,
1973.
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4. Any and all CIA files relating to the activities of Howard Hunt from
January of 1970 to the present.
5.. Any and all CIA files pertaining to the activities of James McCord
from the time period January of 1970 to the present, including but
not limited to biographical summaries of persons known to be asso-
ciated with McCord and/or McCord Associates and those seeking
employment with McCord Associates.
6. Any and all CIA files pertaining to the activities of G. Gordon Liddy
during the time period from January of 1970 to the present.
. Any and all CIA files pertaining to the activities of Attorney
during the time period from January of 1971 to the present.
8. Any and all CIA files pertaining to the activities of
during the time period from January of 1971 to the present.
9. Any and all memoranda forwarded under the signature of the Director
of Security, through the Deputy Director for Support, to the Executive
Director summarizing Watergate-related developments as they were
known in the Office of Security during the time period from January
of 1972 to the present.
10. Special Watergate file maintained or formerly maintained in the Office
of Security.
11. All Watergate material and written correspondence or reports for-
warded to Mr. William Colby while he was Executive Director,
including but not limited to those retained or received by him in his
present capacity as Director of the CIA.
12. All written correspondence or memoranda sent to, received from, or
in any way pertaining to Robert Bennett and/or the Mullen Company
during the time period from January of 1970 to the present.
13. Any and all written material received by or from former Director
Helms in any way pertaining to the activities of E. Howard Hunt and
James McCord during the time period from January of 1970 to the
present.
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