EUGAN DOLLMANN CASE (W/ATTACHMENT)
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1 8. AUG. 1954
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Confidential
'August 6, 1954
Menerandum of Conversation
Participating: Dr. Eugen Dollmann von Fischer, tesprarilY
residing at Hotel. Blanes Haus,- Fuerstenstr. 16, Nuenchen: Karl
Grueter, Frauenhoferstr. 6, Muenchen, and Alan G. James, American
Tice Consul, American Consulate. General, Munich.
I-invited Dollmannto come to the Consulate General to discuss
the matter referred to in his letter of August i-eopy.4f which
is attached to this. memorandum. � I�did this inasmuch ai Dollmann
said that he had an. urgent matter to discuss in connection with -
the John case and inasmuch as .I ,could not contact :our Liason Officer,
W. Lena, on Friday to arrangelbra.representative of an Amerieen �
agumcy other than the Consulate to interview Dollmann.
�bolimannis companion, Grueter, was introduced as a former
Luftwaffe figher pilot who had flown in the Mediterranean area
..mailsho was close to Field Marthall Kiseelring. � Dollmann-said that
he had brought Grueter with him because Grueter vas familiar mith
the matter about to be discussed and because Grueter was a peraan-
art resident of Munich whereas he, Doll:Bann, was going to return to
Wrdid,where he made his permanent reaidencelin about 4 or 5 reeks.
Dollmann opened � by stating that of *ours. I knew 'she he
wee. Ineemoch as I had just read an exhaustive file an him main-
tained by the SueddeuteohlaZoituag and had receive& some information
about him from the Bavarian LwF LfV,2 I said that I did. Dollmaan
then remarked that what he had to say did not relate directly to the
John.easo. He observed parenthetically that he.had.met Jekn em*y
a few tines, all in Rome between 1939 and. 1941, although John hat
in 1952,after Dollmann had been arrested in Frankfurt for emAering
Germany with a falsified passport, urgently requested that Dollmann
609 him. Dollmann said that he had refused to see John and did not
speculate on why John might have wanted to see him in 1952. Apropos
of John's dissappearance, Dollmann said frankly that he 4.i4 net .
know anything about the oaset� although someone whim he'belived to be
in British Intelligence had recently tried to elicit information
about the John case from him. He told me that_het had informed the
inairidual /chat who had suggested that he go to Berlin with him
that he was living in retirement and would not be able to leave
Muaich since he was working very hard with his publisher to go'
his memoirs into print.
The nub of Dollmann's statement was that he knew someone
who lived in Munich whom he considered tempermentally, politically
and by circumstances ideally'suited to go to the East Zone, specifially
East Berlin on a or a series of missions for the Americans. The
individual, p'Kurt HOLOART, (the last name is an-apteette- not kis
family name. He. was born HUNGER, but uses the name HOLM? Ca,
professionally. He is a singer)ie about 45 years old. He was,
according to Dollmann, born in Freiburg, Baden, was active in the
Pfadfinder in Baden until 1935 when he went to Rome the German
Embassy in Rome as Landee Jugend Fuehrer. He was in Rome fres 1935
until 1938. During this time Dollmann said ho came to know Holgart
very well.. He said that Holgart was theuenfant gat6" of von Shiraek
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but that he had certain difficulties with the Nazi Party, publi.ely
which he liberally criticized before many Party officials without*
apparent immunity. During Holgart's duty in Rome, Dollmann said,
the former got to know the von Hassells very well a4-beeame particular-
ly Frau von Hassell who in 1945 after learning that Holetrt was a prison-
er of the French wrote to General Koenig requesting Holgirt's release.
The release was promptly arranged. Dollmann remarked that this was
one of the few instances in which Frau von Hassell had intervened for
former Nazi a and certainly showed her good opinion of Holgart.
Holgart, Dollmann said and inH.this, was corroborated by his companion
Orueter, was a son of a fare' faMi1y4. emotionally mature and balanced,
quite a successful singer, well of financially, not deeply inter-
ested in politics, although not without conviction, aft outspokenly
loyal .to the West and immune to the attractions of Communism.
Holgart has had several opportunities to take attractive offers
:from East German cultural authorities, particularly in the East Berlin
opera, 'While Dollmann implied that Holgart had actually perfcirmed in
the East Zone, he said that Holgart had turned down the permanent offers
saying that he didn't want to live in the East Zone and that he pre-
ferred the West. Holgart has made several visits to East Berlin
where he has a friend whom Dpllmann said he could not or was not
authorized to name who is either a doctor. himself or has the best
connections with meflical men in the Charite.4n-gae4 This friend
Is a member of the Communist party of long standing. He holds
card No. 3 of the KP in the East Zone. His contacts with the
Russians and with East Zone officials are the best. The friend
whom we called "X" in our conversation has been instrumental in
getting Russian officers, Dollmann said Generals, treated in the
Charite for VD which they were afraid to report to Russian medical
authorities, Holgart has visited his friend in the Charite.afta-ha
On one occasion he spent about two weeks there without molestation
by the Yopos although they had asked him wee- a whether he had
a visa for the East Zone, which he did not. Dollmann thinks that
Holgart might be yrevailed upon to perform missions for the kmerica4la
VAROugn he cannot say for sure because he we has not heard Holgart
express himself on the matter. The point is Dollmann said, that
Holgart is ideally suited for such a mission and that he can come and
go at will, thanks to the friendship with this high ranking members
of the East German KP. 'Interestingly, Holgart received a post card
on Juljl_23 dated July 21 from East Berlin written by "X" in which
Holgert was invited to come o ast Berlin, "We haven't seen each
other fora e long time. We have much to talk over".
Persuading Holgart to go to East Berlin as an American agent
would be a rather 'delicate matter according to Dollmann who asked that
if American agencies were interested they make the first move through
him, Dollmann, rather than approach Holgart directly. For this reason
Dollmann did not give me Holgart's address. "Re is un-political and
honest, and I can vouch for him completely (at first he said 75-80%)
Dollmann remarked He is a little set in his ways and would need
careful steering from agents in West Berlin before going over to
the ERst, Dollmann continued, but he would be effective.
� Dollmann thinks that time is of the .sere a:nce it would
3o,7.e time to mrrani7e a +.o East ':jerlin and sl.ree "X's"
contactF, the ait ann�wi.1
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in Munich,f2ratlteast 4-weeks more and then.he will return to Madrid.
If he .annot be reached Grueter can arrange a-contact withHolgart
whom he says he knows very well. Toilmann himself volunteered the
reason for not going to Bonn authorities with his suggestion. He .
said that he frankly did not trust them, aalled the intelligence set
up there a Jungle. and said that he had made his contact with the
Americans in ar945 and not with the Bonn government, that he knew
the Americans well (claimed he arranged the contact between Dulles
and SS Obergruppenfuehrer Wolff in Switzerland) and that he felt it
*as appropriate to pass this hint on to the Americans so thLt the
Americans would not reproach him at some later date for allowing
this opportunity to be lost.,, He imEiied that his motive in suKgestinw
Holgart to the Americans was purely ',elfish and that he would have
no further ,interest in the matter hiclaWt had been arranged one way
or the other. He requested that I 4;pea yp the mAtter, refering it
directly, to the top without allowing underlinging to get mixed up
in it And making sure. to keep the German out of it. He was particu-
larly. anxious lest the Bonn people hear about the interview and
thus make trouble for him, He haid he was mot being disloyal to
the German government, but just thought that the Americans were-
the people to know about it.
I explained to Dollmann, as I_had done at the outset, that
intelligence was beyond the scope of our work at the Consulate
but that we would see that apPropriate American agencies were
apprised of the matter and that appropriate action would be taken.
I agreed that if there was to a ua further contact it would be
though him, that I would bring the matter to the prom attention
of the interested offices and that as far as possible his request
that Bonn be left out would be honored. I made ne;--n1y a preliminary.
agreement on the _Latrerf-Trz:rtrt since I did not presume to know
or suggest how the matter might be handled after it left my hands.
One of the members of our local German staff knew Dollman- wh#,-r
she worked in the Rome Embassy, as did one of the editors of the
.lagddeutsche Zeitung. More biographic in-Ztan=S;=lwass.formati
about Dollmann can be had from these sources without arousinu
any suspicions if it is considered desirable.
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