TAKE 2 OF 2 -- AIR DEFENSE FORCES CHIEF INTERVIEWED

• Document Type: FOIA
• Keywords: UFO SPECIAL COLLECTION
• Collection: FOIA Collection
• Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): 0005517695
• Release Decision: RIFPUB
• Original Classification: U
• Document Page Count: 3
• Document Creation Date: June 24, 2015
• Document Release Date: January 31, 2011
• Case Number: F-2010-00651
• Publication Date: April 14, 1991

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COUNTRY: USSR
SUBJ: TAKE 2 OF 2 -- AIR DEFENSE FORCES CHIEF INTERVIEWED
REF: LD1404191791 MOSCOW CTV1 RUSSIAN 140945///HAVE PULLED OUT?
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((TEXT)) ((TRETYAK)) HUNGARY, POLAND, AND CZECHOSLOVAKIA. OF
COURSE, WE HAD OUR RECONNAISSANCE RANGE PERIMETER 600-700 KM FURTHER
FORWARD. NOW IT RUNS ALONG THE USSR STATE BORDER. AND NATURALLY
THE WHOLE SYSTEM HAS TO BE REVIEWED. AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING
SO WE CAN SEE AHEAD. BUT NOW OUR FRIENDS1ARE PUTTING FORWARD
PROPOSALS TO CONCLUDE BILATERAL AGREEMENTS. NOT MULTILATERAL LIKE
WE HAD, BUT EACH COUNTRY WITH OUR COUNTRY, SO THAT WE MUTUALLY
INFORM EACH OTHER. WE HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THIS OPTION, AND FOR
EXAMPLE, THE ROMANIAN COMRADES HAVE ARRANGED A MEETING WITH US IN
MAY, WHERE WE ARE GOING TO SIGN AN AGREEMENT ON JOINT INFORMATION ON
THE AIR SITUATION AHEAD. WE WILL BE PROVIDING INFORMATION TO THEM
FROM OVER THE SEA AND THE FLANKS. OBVIOUSLY THINGS ARE MORE
COMPLICATED FOR US NOW. BUT, WE CAN REORGANIZE THE SYSTEM AND THAT
IS WHAT WE ARE DOING.
((VOVNENKO)) COULD YOU PLEASE TELL US WHETHER THE PEOPLE WHO WORK
HERE HAVE HAD THE EXPERIENCE OF THE LATEST IN THE --PERSIAN GULF
BROUGHT PROPERLY TO THEIR NOTICE? IS IT BEING STUDIED? AND HOW
WELL ARE YOU, AS THE PVO COMMANDER IN CHIEF, INFORMED ABOUT WHAT
TOOK PLACE?
((TRETYAK)) AS THE PVO WE HAVE TO BE READY TO FIGHT AGAINST AIR
SPACE ATTACKS AT ANY TIME OF DAY OR NIGHT. SURPRISE PLAYS A PART
HERE AND RAISED COMBAT READINESS, OR OTHER STATES OF READINESS, IS
IMPORTANT SO THAT WE CAN AT ANY MOMENT GO UP AGAINST THE ENEMY.
THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
WELL, AS FAR AS AIR FORCES WERE CONCERNED, THEY HAD THE ((MIG))
21'S THERE, THE 23'S, AND 25'S, AND EVEN THE 29'S. BUT, HUSAYN SENT
MOST OF THEM TO IRAN. AND ACCORDING TO THE DATA WHICH WE HAVE,
DEPENDING ON THEIR ACCURACY, ONLY SEVERAL PLANES WERE SHOT DOWN BY
THE AIR FORCES.
((VOVNENKO)) THE REST (?WENT THROUGH) SPACE SYSTEMS?
((TRETYAK)) SPACE SYSTEMS HAD ONLY ONE ROLE THERE. FIRST, THEY
GATHERED INTELLIGENCE AND MONITORED SURFACE-TO-SURFACE OPERATIONAL
TACTICAL MISSILES, JUST AS OVER-THE-HORIZON STATIONS DID, AND
ORIENTED THEIR PATRIOT ANTIAIRCRAFT 'MISSILE SYSTEMS FOP FIRING. AND
IF ONE WERE TO SAY THAT THE PATRIOT IS HIGHLY EFFICIENT, I WOULD NOT
AGREE. ALTHOUGH AT ONE TIME THE AMERICANS STATED THE PATRIOT WAS
NOT MEANT TO BE AN ANTI-MISSILE DEFENSE WEAPON, THEY NOW HAVE SHOWN
THE WHOLE WORLD THAT THEY DEVELOPED IT NOT ONLY AS AN ANTIAIRCRAFT
SYSTEM, BUT AN ANTI-MISSILE SYSTEM AS WELT.~~ .
THEIR RECONNAISSANCE WAS VERY WELL DEPLOYED.' T1ERE WERE THE
AWACS PLANES, THERE WERE THE F-111E ELECTRONIC COUNTERMEASURES
PLANES, THE TR-1 RECONNAISSANCE PLANES, THE RS-135 STRATEGIC
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RECONNAISSANCE PLANES. EVERYDAY THERE WERE UP TO 10 OF THEM. THEY
WERE THERE ALL THE TIME WATCHING IRAQ COMPLETELY. THEY WERE
COMPLETELY IN CHARGE OF THE SITUATION. AND NATURALBY, OF COURSE,-
THINGS WERE VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE DEFENDING SIDE.. THE CONCLUSION
FOR US IS, OF COURSE, TO HAVE HIGH COMBAT READINESS AND S1)CH AIR
DEFENSE ASSETS AS CAN FIGHT AGAINST THE NEW, MOST ADVANCED AIR AND
SPACE MEANS OF ATTACK AT ANY MOMENT. ((PASSAGE OMITTED: TRETYAK
SAYS NO UFO'S HAVE BEEN RECORDED BY THE AIR DEFENSE FORCES))
((VOVNENKO)) DO YOU YOURSELF BELIEVE IN UFO'S??
((TRETYAK)) AS YET I DO NOT. I BELIEVk SOMETHING ELSE, THAT
MODERN SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY ARE CAPABLE OF CREATING SUCH
SPACECRAFT THAT COULD APPEAR ABOVE US.
((VOVNENKO)) THAT IS SOMETHING I BELIEVE IN TOO.
((TRETYAK)) THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON.
((VOVNENKO)) YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE IN MAN'S INGENUITY.
((TRETYAK)) SDI IS A COMPLICATED THING, AND THE PLATFORMS THAT
THEY ARE PROMISING TO MAKE IN THEIR THOUSANDS ARE GOING TO APPEAR IN
EVERY PART OF THE WORLD. AND, THEY CAN BE PROGRAMMED TO BE AT ANY
ALTITUDE. SO, WE HAVE TO WATCH THIS CAREFULLY.
((VOVNENKO)) WHEN THERE IS TALK ABOUT CUTBACKS IN WEAPONS, ABOUT
CONVERSION, EVEN MORE AND MORE OFTEN ABOUT CUTTING BACK THE ARMY,
HOW IS ALL THIS RECEIVED BY THE COUNTRY'S PVO? WHAT ABOUT THAT?
((TRETYAK)) IF I AM TO BE UNEQUIVOCAL, THIS IS PAINFUL TO US.
THEY SAID THE RIGHT THING, THAT QUANTITIVE CUTBACKS SHOULD BE MADE
UP FOR IN QUALITY, THAT IS, WEAPONS. THAT IS CORRECT. BUT, THEY
HAVE TAKEN MONEY AWAY FROM US. I CANNOT BUY FROM THE STATE AS MUCH
OF THIS EQUIPMENT AS I NEED TO MAKE UP THE QUALITY-. AND ALL WE HAVE
IS THE MONEY THEY ALLOCATED TO THE MINISTER OF DEFENSE AND WHICH HE
PASSED ON TO US, THE COMMANDERS IN CHIEF. CONSEQUENTLY, THE RATES
OF REEQUIPMENT ARE GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY SLOWER AND THIS WILL
EFFECT COMBAT READINESS.
OF COURSE, OUR SCIENCE HAS TO KEEP UP. THE CUTBACKS IN MONIES
FOR SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH WORK IS ALSO GOING TO HAVE AN EFFECT. AND
THESE HAVE BEEN CUT BACK A LOT. THINGS THAT ARE FINE NOW WILL BE
OBSOLETE IN FIVE TO 10 YEARS. THEY HAVE TO PRODUCE NEW, ADVANCED
THINGS.
((VOVENKO)) OF COURSE, OVER 10 YEARS ANY PROGAM WOULD....
((TRETYAK, INTERRUPTING)) SO HERE TOO IT IS A QUESTION OF MONEY.
BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE SITUATION IN THE COUNTRY IS NOT EASY.
AND FOR THE TIME BEING, HOWEVER MUCH WE MIGHT WANT IT, THE COUNTRY
CANNOT GIVE ANYTHING EVEN TO THE PVO TROOPS WHICH ARE ON THE VERY
FRONT LINE AND ARE THE FIRST TO GO INTO BATTLE, IN THE DIFFICULT
CONDITIONS WE ARE IN NOW. CONSEQUENTLY WE WILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN
HIGH COMBAT READINESS WITH WHAT WE HAVE, MAINTAIN THE TECHNICAL
STATE OF ALL EQUIPMENT, KEEP IT WELL MAINTAINED, AND BE READY TO
CARRY OUT OUR TASKS. ((VIDEO SHOWS TRETYAK, INTERCUT WITH SHOTS OF
PLOTTERS, RADAR OFFICERS, RADAR SCREENS. END CAPTION CONGRATULATES
PVO TROOPS ON THEIR DAY OVER SHOTS OF TRETYAK WELCOMING VETERANS AND
CADETS))
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